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#1445372 - 20/12/2017 13:32 NRL Season 2018
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So Fitler is the 2018 NSW origin coach .Does this mean we won't have to listen to him commentating in those games? Already a win if it is so.

Meanwhile.........

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#1445440 - 20/12/2017 18:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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She's just a 'gold digger', methinks.

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#1445456 - 21/12/2017 07:41 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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methinks, if one can only hit on/pick up the passout drunk female, in the bar, one`s got more questions to answer, along with consent or no consent........


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#1445457 - 21/12/2017 08:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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What gets me is the whole 'civil' court concept. No evidence to prove a legal crime? No worries. Just make unsubstantiated allegations and it will be guilty untill proven innocent we are very lucky we don't have that crap here.

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#1445462 - 21/12/2017 10:44 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yea, bet 'OJ' Simpson wished he lived in Australia

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#1445483 - 21/12/2017 18:28 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Gad]
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Originally Posted By: Gad
Yea, bet 'OJ' Simpson wished he lived in Australia


Bet be does. But i bet a lot of innocent people do as well

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#1445492 - 21/12/2017 19:50 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Gad]
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Originally Posted By: Gad
Yea, bet 'OJ' Simpson wished he lived in Australia


Yep. I'd say there are a fair few rapists / murderers in our system that walked. It works both ways.
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#1445521 - 22/12/2017 01:29 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Brett Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Brett Guy
What gets me is the whole 'civil' court concept. No evidence to prove a legal crime? No worries. Just make unsubstantiated allegations and it will be guilty untill proven innocent we are very lucky we don't have that crap here.

The last page of the lawsuit translates to:- "give me sh!tloads of money." (My highlighting.)
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#1445535 - 22/12/2017 10:23 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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sounds very expensive if their Legal System finds someone guilty of being a Predator.... seems like going Home Alone and playing Hands Solo would have been far cheaper Deliverance,on the night


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#1445565 - 22/12/2017 17:43 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1448104 - 09/01/2018 14:55 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront


Well, he wont be giving the twin birds to anyone now.

But for us Rabbitoh's supporters, when he plays for the Roosters, we will be giving him the twin birds when he takes the field for them.

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#1456245 - 08/03/2018 19:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Round 1 kicks off shortly with Broncos v Dragons. Should be a cracker, be interesting to see how Ben Hunt performs against his old club.

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#1456271 - 08/03/2018 23:30 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Tore them to shreds , broncs looked like a crap side.

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#1456343 - 09/03/2018 12:15 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I was there. was not a fun game to watch.
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#1456364 - 09/03/2018 14:48 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Why is that it seems the league season never ends? Let alone begins? lol

Anyway.

Go the Panthers


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#1456365 - 09/03/2018 14:54 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgggg
I was there. was not a fun game to watch.


Not if you are a Broncos fan anyway...Dragons are looking pretty good ..great halves..some great forwards..no excuses this year...Go Dragons..!

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#1456387 - 09/03/2018 16:35 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Dawgggg]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgggg
I was there. was not a fun game to watch.


Turned it over at half time. You couldn't get a more boring opener.
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#1457402 - 16/03/2018 15:01 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: Dawgggg
I was there. was not a fun game to watch.


Turned it over at half time. You couldn't get a more boring opener.


I couldn't be bothered to watch it to begin with.

Donkeys vs St Merge - boring! At least the result was good for St Merge.

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#1457449 - 16/03/2018 21:34 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Cronulla snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last night. Will the Broncos do the same?
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#1457456 - 16/03/2018 22:00 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Saved by the upright.
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#1457458 - 16/03/2018 22:17 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Cronulla snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last night. Will the Broncos do the same?

No grin

Rippa game though, broncos played 100X better than last week, JT brilliant as always. Could've gone either way. But yeah can't say I've ever seen a game decided by the upright before!!
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#1457460 - 16/03/2018 22:37 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: LightningGus]
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Originally Posted By: LightningGus
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Cronulla snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last night. Will the Broncos do the same?

No grin

Rippa game though, broncos played 100X better than last week, JT brilliant as always. Could've gone either way. But yeah can't say I've ever seen a game decided by the upright before!!


Yeah the second half was certainly entertaining.
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#1457617 - 17/03/2018 21:28 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The worst I've seen the Storm play,- but also the best I've seen the Tigers play under Ivan Cleary's watch.

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#1457656 - 17/03/2018 23:03 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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They were totally schooled by Benji...Great to see the underdogs get up...

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#1457685 - 18/03/2018 09:20 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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Originally Posted By: hickory
The worst I've seen the Storm play,- but also the best I've seen the Tigers play under Ivan Cleary's watch.


I missed it due to a party but full credit to the Tigers. I don't think it will dampen Slater's 300 though at this end of the season . What makes his feat more remarkable is his duration at one club. Rare indeed.
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#1457792 - 18/03/2018 17:52 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I hope Parramatta didn't pay much for Hayne
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#1457796 - 18/03/2018 18:22 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Wow that was certainly a mismatch...might have been a different result if the Eels had Hayne playing for them.. wink

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#1457803 - 18/03/2018 18:49 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: scott12]
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Wow that was certainly a mismatch...might have been a different result if the Eels had Hayne playing for them.. wink

Hayne is nowhere near fit enough for one,- but also he just doesn't seem to put much effort in either. Just a lazy bastard.

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#1457833 - 18/03/2018 22:00 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Nothing seems to have changed since last year Hickory...despite his new dream of returning "home" to the eels...he was always a guy that played on his God-given talent...now that he is older that isn't enough to keep him competitive anymore.....he was always a lazy bastard..Poor old Brad Arthur would be rueing his decision to bring Hayne home about now I reckon...

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#1457845 - 18/03/2018 23:36 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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As CF said,-'I hope Parramatta didn't pay much for Hayne',- because he just isn't worth much.
He's always been a prima donna. He needs to pull his head in and do some serious fitness training if we are to see many Hayne Planes in 2018.

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#1457846 - 18/03/2018 23:42 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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Originally Posted By: hickory

He's always been a prima donna.


Yep. The most over rated player ever to don an NRL outfit. He shines when others around him do the hard yards and feed him the ball.
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#1458449 - 22/03/2018 21:55 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Storm Cowboys game was a scrappy affair. Defence determined the outcome.
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#1458465 - 22/03/2018 23:02 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Great to see the refs cracking down on the 10 metres.
Hope they do it for the rest of this round and onwards. 20 penalties in the match. Both sides are slow learners it seems.

The one that riles me the most, is when a defending player should have one foot on the tryline,- the 4 or 5 defenders near the play (nearly) do, then the rest are looped around in an arc with the attacking and defending wingers sometimes only 6 metres apart. It happens in every game, every week of every year.

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#1458466 - 22/03/2018 23:06 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yep consistency is yet to be determined but overdue.
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#1458625 - 23/03/2018 22:03 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Controversial win to the Broncos.
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#1458627 - 23/03/2018 22:14 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Sick of the Broncos getting all the crucial calls, it's bs.

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#1458642 - 23/03/2018 23:19 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Did I miss something in the Broncs/Tigers game??
The ref gave the penality 23 metres out, but made them take the kick 29 metres out.

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#1458682 - 24/03/2018 10:14 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Mega]
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Sick of the Broncos getting all the crucial calls, it's bs.


At least it answered the consistency issue.There is none.

I noticed too that the ref called early on inside the 10 on their own line but then stopped doing it after the first penalty was issued despite both sides moving of the line early throughout the game.

If they are serious about addressing it they will keep penalising for it because as seen last week it is assign ingrained bad habit that will take a while to remove from the game.
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#1458747 - 24/03/2018 14:34 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1458786 - 24/03/2018 17:25 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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"We got it wrong", yeah haven't heard that one before.

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#1458787 - 24/03/2018 17:27 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Admitting they got it wrong doesn't give the Tigers 2 points though.

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#1458804 - 24/03/2018 18:48 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Just another standard NRL balls up. I can guarantee it won't be the last for the season.
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#1458842 - 25/03/2018 01:59 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Or Round 3.

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#1459169 - 26/03/2018 12:26 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Manly busted . $750,000 for cap breaches. Breaking news so no details yet.
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#1459180 - 26/03/2018 13:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1459182 - 26/03/2018 13:51 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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You can tell it's the NRL's favourite team. No points lost !!

So much for consistency.
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#1459206 - 26/03/2018 17:07 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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They were cap compliant at start of season, every other team that lost their points were not compliant.

The breach was found later in the season last year, so they would lose points for last year as per the rules. No point now. If they had won the premiership then that would of been stripped.

A few years back the Warriors lost 4 points, and even though they were compliant when the finding came out they were not when they garnered the first four points.

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#1459228 - 26/03/2018 19:03 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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That goes part way to explaining why they are inconsistent . Thanks Slippery.
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#1459695 - 29/03/2018 20:44 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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As a Cowboys fan the ref calls against the Panthers tonight has been disgusting.
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#1459697 - 29/03/2018 21:01 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
As a Cowboys fan the ref calls against the Panthers tonight has been disgusting.


Well hang on, where did your storm avatar go? wink smile
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#1459701 - 29/03/2018 21:18 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
As a Cowboys fan the ref calls against the Panthers tonight has been disgusting.


Well hang on, where did your storm avatar go? wink smile


Storm always my No 1 mate. Cowboys my No 2.

Looks like the ref is trying to make amends in the second half. All over the shop.
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#1459703 - 29/03/2018 21:28 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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No worries, just checking. smile

I have tipped the Cowboys tonight and I haven't watched a minute of the game yet!!
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#1459704 - 29/03/2018 21:39 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Once again ref consistency being questioned by the commentators.
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#1459846 - 30/03/2018 21:41 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Storm atrocious tonight.

Should have stayed home and let the refs blow their whistles.
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#1459862 - 31/03/2018 00:26 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The Storm/Sharks game had no flow,- full stop.
One try and 33 penalties, FFS !! The players were just so frustrated at full time that they had a go at each other. I can't blame them.
Sure every player in recent times has been flouting the rules knowing they won't be pinged, and if the ref's don't make them obey the rules it will just be a shamozzle,- but it must be done with consistency and it's not. I've seen two identical infringements and one player is given 10 minutes and the other is simply penalised. Crazy.

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#1459895 - 31/03/2018 10:00 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yeah well If I had gone into the refs it would have been sour grapes or some crap from someone. Something is very wrong when Smith gets sent off. First time in his career.

I don't usually take much notice of Gus Gould but I reckon he was on the money (there's a pun in there for later) when he said he believes the refs are going OTT as a protest against the games highest officials.

I wonder if those same officials are pandering to their major sponsor to drag the game out? Time is money.
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#1459903 - 31/03/2018 10:41 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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CF if they are going overboard, I think it is aimed towards their biggest critics. The same ones that repeatedly bagged them out for not taking action on repeated deliberate offside on the try line and the play the ball.

These critics are led by the king hypocrit- Gus Gould!

He is the boss at a footy club, vested interest maybe?

I have heard countless criticism of the officials on countless threads, and they are the same people who lambasted them last year for not blowing the penalties. Yet not one has placed the blame on the players for infringing the long standing rules.

Funny the two least penalised sides in regards to offside are the Dragons and the Warriors, where do they sit on the ladder? I guess they actually took the refs edict at the start of the season seriously.

It seems to me that a player only gets criticised in this country if he tampers with a cricket ball.

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#1459919 - 31/03/2018 12:32 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: slipperyfish]
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CF if they are going overboard, I think it is aimed towards their biggest critics.


Well that's another theory.

Originally Posted By: slipperyfish
Yet not one has placed the blame on the players for infringing the long standing rules.



So you missed Bellamy's post match interview.
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#1459920 - 31/03/2018 12:57 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yes and I thought both he and Smith handled it very well. However it was hard to miss the passive aggressive swipe at the officials, “the refs are only following orders from above”. Basically that translates to, We don’t agree with them, but do not want to get fined.

I posted on another website in regards to the current stand off in league and the ball tampering episode. Went something like this:

What we are seeing at the moment in RL is a crackdown on breaking the rules. These rules have been in place for as long as I can remember, same as ball tampering in cricket. As fans we have lamented the damage to the game that these infringements are causing but have largely turned a blind eye in the name of entertainment, same as ball tampering in cricket.

In fact ball tampering has largely been ignored as part of the game for decades. We have seen the constant bending of the rules by not only the Australian team, but nearly every other international side. The fans shrug this off as part of the modern game, enhancing the spectacle. Now look where that has got us!

I now see a lot of people sanctioning the same ignorance in RL in the name of entertainment. So the question is, where will this stop?

The hypocrisy in all this is palpable. Only days ago three cricketers got flayed and destroyed by all and sundry for breaking the rules, bending the fabric of the game. Yet here we are condoning the flagrant bending and breaking of rules in another sport.

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#1459954 - 31/03/2018 17:47 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I agree with most of that. It's the lack of consistency I am sick of. In the Penrith / Nth Qld game the ref blew once early for line creep and then no more , yet both teams were up off their line for the rest of the game.
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#1459957 - 31/03/2018 18:06 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Imagine if they were consistent!

I can only imagine the penalty count😳😬

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#1459965 - 31/03/2018 19:13 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Or lack thereof.
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#1459967 - 31/03/2018 19:22 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I love how Craig Bellamy lay the blame on his own team for the loss and not the refereeing...basically saying that this is the road they've taken and teams just have to adapt. All class, imo. However that doesn't excuse some of the really REALLY bad calls we've seen which happen every year (like in that Broncos game last week).

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#1460088 - 01/04/2018 14:44 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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We can only hope that the refs stay on this road they have taken. The fans initially won't be happy, the media will have a field day dredging up every instance where something in the past WAS allowed (thus keeping a bunch of sanctimonious hasbeens frothing at the mouth & in their jobs for months to come), Google will go into meltdown while armchair experts get to flex their muscles as well and some coaches will be start mimicking Toovs squawking about an investigation.
But the only way we will end this season on a good note is for the refs to stay strong in their resolve.
This will add an extra dimension to the players' learning curve. Some may have to be reprogrammed completely. Others will shine in this environment. Those that shine are those who have worked hard on honing league skills rather than histrionics.
I could go on for hours about the role of the coach - basically we have 2 kinds at the moment :
1. the real coach who understand you have to teach players to adapt to the situation & that includes adapting to what the Ref calls fair play & what he decides will be penalised. The coach has done all he can for his players, so he sits & watches every game, every ref and analyses what is going on and how the ref reads the play. And that is where he makes adjustments and where he HOPES his captain makes adjustments.
2. The lazy coach who runs his players around the skills paddock & then puts them on the field & uses game time to yell more direction to them (this should have been done long before game day) and decides anything that goes wrong is the ref's fault. This attitude washes over to the thinking of his players & captain, so instead of spending game time trying to use their skills, they use game time as watching what the ref is doing, whining about it and blaming them for their misfortunes.
It will be an interesting season to say the least; and in the end we may have a finals series that is all about brilliant skills and not grubby play.

The media have a lot to answer for in this sport, whether you believe it or not, the games are VERY different if you can watch without the sound up on the TV.
Try it sometime.
- Watch the game but ignore (usually means turn down) the commentary.
- Try NOT to watch any replays they do. Keep a note pad & jot anything good about the game down; or do a crossword or something that turns your attention away from the repeated replays they do because you will KNOW what they are saying, what their thoughts are.
- then if you want to spoil that effect, turn the sound up at the end of the game & listen to their wrap up speeches & see how fast they change your opinion of the game.

If you are not that strong, just listen to the diverse opinions they have during the game and often they will be very different to each others. They all have an agenda to push, even Gus who I personally like but his agenda filled speeches often rile me.

Over the coming weeks, it will be interesting to see how many "big" players have some of their gameplay neutralised by having to stick to the rules.
For guys like Smith & Gallen, what the hell will they do at the play the ball if their arms raised in appeals do no good at all???
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#1460103 - 01/04/2018 15:42 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Mega]
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I love how Craig Bellamy lay the blame on his own team for the loss and not the refereeing...basically saying that this is the road they've taken and teams just have to adapt. All class, imo.


Yep.
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#1460156 - 01/04/2018 19:12 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Quite simply, the players just have to obey the rules.
It would only take one game for an Under 7's team to learn what 10 metres is and how to play the ball.
Even the dumbest players will learn eventually, and the ref's must keep on with the crackdown otherwise their efforts in the first 4 rounds has been a waste of time.
Bill Harrigan was saying he ref'd a game with 1 penalty, simply because the players played by the rules. That's how simple it all is.

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#1460198 - 01/04/2018 23:51 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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That's how simple it all is.


Only if they are consistent and already they are not.
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#1460479 - 02/04/2018 23:05 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Well, refs are human, so there will always be some inconsistency.
One day they may be androids with 10 lenses covering the full 360° of view and assistant androids on the sidelines at every 10 metre line and a couple on the dead ball lines in goal.
That would make the bunker a thing of the past too. That spider cam they were using a year or two back was great. It showed up every forward pass and offside play.

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#1461597 - 12/04/2018 21:50 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Great win to the Rabbits tonight ,even with another woeful obstruction call to the Roosters leading to yet another plethora of penalties that thankfully amounted to nothing.

Fitler displaying his blatant bias yet again when calling for a send off ,yet failing to chime in when the rest of the panel suggested the obstruction call was ridiculous. He seems to forget he is supposed to be a commentator.

If the Rabbits play like tonight for the rest of the season they will be serious contenders come finals time.
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#1461698 - 13/04/2018 21:55 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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St George on fire.
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#1462195 - 20/04/2018 10:51 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I'm all for referee's to penalise any player for indiscretion of play the ball and not being back the 10 metres. Yes, it is high to start of with, but this is the first time I have seen it being policed for more then the first game or two for the season. They just have to be consistent at keeping on it.

However, I have seen many plays of the ball still not right, and usually it is the same players. But ref's at times may miss some from time to time, either due to being focused on something else, or viewing angle. But they show review the game afterwards themselves and score what things they have missed on or got wrong. Only by reviewing the game you refereed are you only going to be sharper.

Also players moving up on the mark to play the ball is another gripe. If the marker is already standing in front of you, you cannot move or touch the marker, thus cannot move up on him. That's why he is called a marker! If it is intentional to move up past the marker in position, then be penalised, but if it is 50/50, then the ball player is told to move back and restart the play.

I think they need to bring back the 5 minute sin bin, especially for players habitually conceding penalties for the same thing, not just defending your own line. It may reinforce rules even more, and players eventually will get the message.

The bunker should have a more involvement, especially for players taking dives or milking penalties. I'm not just referring to Burgess/Morris incident, as there was some contact with Morris' chin/neck. I am referring to the biggest diary cow in the NRL, "Billy Slater". He has now taking diving for penalties to Oscar Award levels. If the bunker sees no reason for the penalty to be given, then they should overrule the decision, and depending on the level of milking, may even be penalised against it, otherwise play goes on.

Thus far, the ref's are only doing their job. They get a lot of calls wrong or missed, but sitting in an armchair with multiple angles and slow replays will always change the perspective of the play at real time of the event. That is why I prefer to watch the game at the game. At times you see things differently then being sanitised by the screen.

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#1462196 - 20/04/2018 10:53 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront


If the Rabbits play like tonight for the rest of the season they will be serious contenders come finals time.


I can only hope!

The Roosters/Bulldogs game was a great game to watch, even though I don't like either team. It was like the eighties, only faster!

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#1462229 - 20/04/2018 13:10 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: J Pabo]
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I am referring to the biggest diary cow in the NRL, "Billy Slater".


I doubt he carries a diary but I agree he needs to be pulled up for it. But then they did award Jarryd Hayne a Dally M whilst his team was cheating the cap and he actually had shares in Dairy Farmer's stadium for his penalty milking efforts yet managed more than one DM for his efforts in milking, refusing to tackle and waiting for the ball to come to him.

The problem is ,there are numerous players diving for penalties, not just Slater as is evidenced in pretty much every single game and countless times throughout and they ALL need to be pulled up for it. Slater's efforts last week were embarrassing .Again, it comes down to consistency. It needs to removed from the game. But then so does using a player's face to help your elbow up off the ground as Fafita does every single game.

last night they binned someone for doing nothing wrong. Ridiculous, and I am certainly no fan of the Roosters.
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#1462236 - 20/04/2018 14:33 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Originally Posted By: J Pabo
I am referring to the biggest diary cow in the NRL, "Billy Slater".



Me Bad crazy

Originally Posted By: ColdFront
last night they binned someone for doing nothing wrong. Ridiculous, and I am certainly no fan of the Roosters.


Yes, Latrell was wrongly punished, as there was no chance of the Bulldogs player actually scoring, as he "falconed" the ball. Penalty - yes, but not professional foul and sending to the bin. The bunker official should have binned himself for a "professional foul".

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#1462278 - 20/04/2018 21:51 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Broncs Vs Storm game was the best so far in 2018.
The skill shown by the players of both teams was superb.

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#1462279 - 20/04/2018 22:01 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yep awesome game. Still a couple of silly penalty calls though.
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#1462297 - 21/04/2018 03:40 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I hope someone digs into the rule book to see if Ashley Klein is correct about any kick can be a drop kick.
The bunker backed him up, so maybe it is the rule, but that means if anyone drops the pill from now on, then boots it, it's play on ?? No way.

Wayne Bennett wasn't overly pissed off by it but said:- "But that is a game changer if that is to be the standard going forward. It was never intended to be a drop-kick and the ball hit the ground. So what are we saying now – if we knock the ball on and it hits the ground and we still kick at it, it's a drop-kick?
Either way, the 6 points didn't affect the outcome.

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#1462303 - 21/04/2018 07:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Wayne Bennett complaining about something that didn't go his way. There's something different wink

He couldn't be overly pissed because it didn't determine the outcome of the game. For overly pissed you only refer to his disgraceful display just two minutes after the Cowboys won the grand final in golden point ,taking the shine off their win in the process.

I didn't think it was a try myself, however I did watch the replay a few times and am wondering why even Slater said he dropped the ball when he was in a haunched position , elbows bent and clearly preparing to kick. Maybe just good sportsmanship or maybe he dropped it slightly earlier than intended?
So where to from here? Does every attempt at field goal now get called a knock on when the timing isn't quite right and there is a slight bounce before the boot connects the ball? After all, to be determined a drop kick the ball must touch the ground first.
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#1463735 - 12/05/2018 11:48 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Canterbury won on a controversial penalty in a reverse of the previous week. Funny how's that works. 15 and 16 providing the most entertaining game of the year. It's amusing though how Parra have gone to crap since Hayne returned. Same happened to the Titans.
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#1465145 - 06/06/2018 23:39 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Surprising how quiet all you QLDer''s are tonight.
Lol.

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#1465147 - 06/06/2018 23:54 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Gotta say that was the slowest most non-physical game of origin I've seen, but I guess that's what inexperience will do with 11 debutants in the side. Most interesting thing to happen were a couple of big hits from Inglis otherwise it was like watching a regular fri night game.

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#1465169 - 07/06/2018 10:41 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Homer]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
Surprising how quiet all you QLDer''s are tonight.
Lol.


How good was it that Cameron Smith wasn't referring the game!! poke
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#1465177 - 07/06/2018 12:19 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Homer]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
Surprising how quiet all you QLDer''s are tonight.
Lol.


Queenslander!!
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#1465181 - 07/06/2018 13:39 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
Surprising how quiet all you QLDer''s are tonight.
Lol.


Queenslander!!


Speak up, I cant hear you...lol


It was great to see a bunch of new youngsters strut their stuff..besides its boring if every year the same players do the same stuff with the same result...


No surprise to see some of the sore loser articles where QLD got ripped off by the reps..

Cant wait for the next one..hopefully we get to have a decider in game 3..

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#1465190 - 07/06/2018 17:09 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Smashed them by a record margin at Suncorp last year and still lost the series, I won't be celebrating unless we're 30-0 up by half time in game 2 and Gagai and Valentine manage to get injured.

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#1465191 - 07/06/2018 17:25 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Long Road Home]
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Smashed them by a record margin at Suncorp last year and still lost the series, I won't be celebrating unless we're 30-0 up by half time in game 2 and Gagai and Valentine manage to get injured.


Been there one too many times hey LRH frown

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#1465193 - 07/06/2018 17:54 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: scott12]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
Originally Posted By: Homer
Surprising how quiet all you QLDer''s are tonight.
Lol.


Queenslander!!


Speak up, I cant hear you...lol


It was great to see a bunch of new youngsters strut their stuff..besides its boring if every year the same players do the same stuff with the same result...


No surprise to see some of the sore loser articles where QLD got ripped off by the reps..

Cant wait for the next one..hopefully we get to have a decider in game 3..


The better team won. QLD to lose the remaining 2 games as well. Big downturn coming in the absence of Smith, Slater, Cronk, JT and Scott - some of the greatest players to ever play the game, whether people like them or not.

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#1465210 - 08/06/2018 01:23 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Still have Gagai and Valentine, who have scored more tries than any other player in their short term. Gagai 6 tries in 4 games, Holmes 3 tries in the decider. Doing all the damage. All this hype over Slater or JT not playing, but it'll be a young gun who we've never heard of scoring 3 tries in the decider snatching the series for QLD again, you can bet on it

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#1466410 - 25/06/2018 16:03 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Hello Qld? Hello anyone?

Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh
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#1466413 - 25/06/2018 17:11 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Hello Qld? Hello anyone?

Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh


Hahaha!

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#1466418 - 25/06/2018 17:25 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Hello Qld? Hello anyone?

Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh


I called it 3 weeks ago. With the omission of the Smith, Slater, Cronk, JT combo, it was always going to be a struggle for QLD imo. Never going to be easy to fill the boots of some of the best players to ever play the game. I also blame Ben Hunt. wink

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#1466419 - 25/06/2018 17:42 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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We had Mitchell Pearce for years, bout time you guys had one.

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#1466420 - 25/06/2018 17:49 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Kino]
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We had Mitchell Pearce for years, bout time you guys had one.


hahaha it's so true.

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#1466422 - 25/06/2018 18:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh


Ice Hockey?
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#1466424 - 25/06/2018 18:32 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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As a blue I have to say the better team lost last night. Overall the reffing was pretty good but we did get a couple of 50/50calls go our way. QLD had their chances though and failed to take them.

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#1466442 - 26/06/2018 06:48 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Hello Qld? Hello anyone?

Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh


Oh, you still watch rugby league? poke Must be why they put it on a Sunday, try snd get someone to watch it?
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#1466567 - 27/06/2018 17:25 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG


Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh


Ice Hockey?


What the Puck? grin
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#1466569 - 27/06/2018 17:28 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Ronfishes]
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Originally Posted By: EddyG
Hello Qld? Hello anyone?

Oh well NSW must have won the series fair and square then? poke grin laugh


Oh, you still watch rugby league? poke Must be why they put it on a Sunday, try snd get someone to watch it?


We still filled a stadium didn't we? wink
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#1466576 - 27/06/2018 19:59 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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That win would've looked good in 2007/2008, now it's just meaningless after so many losses and all the greats disappearing. To be honest I wanted Ponga to score from his line break, that kid is an inspiration. Big future ahead

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#1466684 - 29/06/2018 21:47 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Best game I've seen for a few years tonight.
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#1466690 - 30/06/2018 02:09 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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A nice looking paddock they have down there in Adelaide too.

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#1467232 - 12/07/2018 12:08 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Silly Blater man of the series, what a joke!! Not to mention he was man of the match, I thought DCE should have had man of the match!!
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#1467235 - 12/07/2018 13:49 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Everything DCE did last night was set up by Slater
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#1467248 - 12/07/2018 16:43 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Everything DCE did last night was set up by Slater


What his kicking game too!! poke
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#1467295 - 13/07/2018 20:21 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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No good fishing in Queensland territory, can't get a bite!! wink
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#1467313 - 14/07/2018 08:05 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I caught a spanker of a flathead yesterday on soft plastics.
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#1470429 - 07/09/2018 22:22 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Best game all year and I've watched plenty . Shame the refs nearly determined the outcome though. Souths are great team and that reflected in the score tonight. Great NRL final.
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#1470827 - 15/09/2018 21:54 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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And then there were four....

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#1470832 - 15/09/2018 22:42 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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What an amazing game
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#1470857 - 16/09/2018 18:02 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Roosters to roll the Bunnies, & Storm to roll the Sharks for a
Roosters / Storm GF.
Not too sure that's the way the bookies see it though !

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#1470871 - 16/09/2018 23:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Any of the remaining 4 can win the grand final.
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#1471096 - 22/09/2018 21:37 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1471097 - 22/09/2018 21:42 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I hate the Roosters and whilst the Bunnies were poor tonight, once again the Roosters scored both tries off dubious calls. The first for high shot when he dropped in the tackle and the second on a follow up set after a missed field goal as the result of a penalty for a late shot that wasn't late.

It's always the same with that mob.
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#1471101 - 22/09/2018 23:46 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Well my prediction from last Sunday has played out, so far.
Not that it was rocket science. I'd like to see the Storm take it out, but whether Slater is in or out may make a difference.

I think Dylan Napa and Latrell Mitchel are back for the Chooks, but either way,- if they play next sunday, like they played today, they will get done. Trent Robbo has his work cut out.

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#1471102 - 23/09/2018 07:21 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Latrell Mitchell is back. Should have got 3 weeks for that crusher tackle. Agree neither team was playing well last night
.

I picked the Roosters as the team to watch a few months back. Although Cronulla should have gotten the week's rest and the Roosters should have been playing the Storm last week. Cronulla were robbed by the refs against the Roosters and dubious calls were again the difference last night.

It's funny how the video ref can overturn an onfield call last night but miss a 2 metre forward pass two weeks ago that gave them the win. It's always been the same with the Roosters.

Having said that, Sam Burgess needs to learn how to hold onto the ball in the hit ups. He coughed it up 3 times last night and similar against us.
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#1471122 - 23/09/2018 19:00 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Sam Burgess' hands have let him down the last 3 or 4 games. Dropping the ball cold in fairly average tackles. A lot on his mind ATM, but that's not an excuse.
The Touchies should be doing better picking out forward passes,- as it's their job running the line to stay inline with the play.

The refs use a different rule book for the semi's,- it seems.

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#1471150 - 23/09/2018 21:52 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I can't see us winning next Sunday if Slater is rubbed (which is likely) to be honest. Funny though how the Roosters player had a blatant dangerous tackle against him and got cleared to play with an early plea. Maybe they should have looked at the other camera angle that was shown during the game.
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#1471195 - 24/09/2018 17:51 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Brad Fittler needs to shut up and at least attempt to hide his bias. Fancy saying that he thinks the NRL has to ban Slater for the final...of course you're going to say that you numpty.

Meanwhile, nothing was really said about Friend's tackle. Much worse than Billy's "shoulder charge" and he only got a grade 1. Whatever.

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#1471197 - 24/09/2018 18:08 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yeah should have been 3 weeks for that spear tackle and yes, Fittler is a grub.
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#1471210 - 24/09/2018 20:05 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Half the reason why I don't watch rugby league anymore is because of those numpty commentators, Fittler included.

I will back Slater to be playing in the GF!!
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#1471220 - 24/09/2018 20:41 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Half the reason why I don't watch rugby league anymore is because of those numpty commentators, Fittler included.

I will back Slater to be playing in the GF!!


I listen to triple M's app now. I have a HDD recorder so simply pause the tv for 15 seconds to align the vision with radio and the commentary is far superior. No Gould, no Fitler and none of the bias dribble they spew out every week. Tallis, Sailor and others make for enjoyable listening and funny at times.
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#1471274 - 25/09/2018 20:53 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Woohoo. Slater is playing. No excuses now.

Win or lose he gets to go out on his terms at least. Now cue the backlash
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#1471276 - 25/09/2018 21:16 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Hopefully this is a precedent for reviewing the shoulder charge rule. It was brought in to stop guys running out of the line and smashing guys head on with the shoulder and arm hard up against their body. Not what Slater was doing and other players have been rubbed for the same ridiculous ruling.
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#1471283 - 26/09/2018 00:05 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The Billy Slater judgement shortened the price of a Storm win heaps with the bookies.

The Roosters will be the first mob to start sooking.
Suck it up fella's.

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#1471288 - 26/09/2018 08:25 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Ah..oh course it was all Sosaia Feki's fault..Billy had no alternative then to shoulder charge him.....

Just like his good buddy Smith claimed a few years back when it was all Alex McKinnons fault...

Bring on the grand final ..I'm backing no penalties around the rucks and play the balls and very little enforcement of the 10 metre rule..

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#1471304 - 26/09/2018 11:03 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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The Billy Slater judgement shortened the price of a Storm win heaps with the bookies.

The Roosters will be the first mob to start sooking.
Suck it up fella's.


Yeah they'll sook along with the other anti-Storm brigade. Like clockwork they have the same whine each year. Melbourne may not win but they are there Slater included.
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#1471372 - 26/09/2018 23:00 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Found this on social media. No wonder he was cleared.



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#1471424 - 27/09/2018 19:10 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Just a good old solid fashion tackle.

Bring back the Biff!! grin


Edited by EddyG (27/09/2018 19:10)
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#1471429 - 27/09/2018 19:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Ahhh yes, the biff. 6 weeks on the sideline nowadays . I think they followed the AFL's lead in cleaning up the game for families.

But yes, those stills show it was hardly a shoulder charge worthy of rubbing a player out for. Interestingly one of the 3 on the panel that decided Slater's fate was a former Roosters captain. Clearly has more sense than Fittler .
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#1471433 - 27/09/2018 20:33 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yep the Roosters mascot has more sense than Fittler.

Well I will be rooting for the Storm this Sunday and if the Rooster's win, then I'll be will rooting for a title strip in the following years for salary cap issues!!
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#1471434 - 27/09/2018 20:36 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I hear they are chasing Munster. The rich boy's club are masters at buying other team's talent rather than developing their own.
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#1471435 - 27/09/2018 20:38 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yes, buying a premiership rather than winning won. Sounds like Manly back in the 80s.
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#1471443 - 27/09/2018 22:10 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: EddyG]
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Yes, buying a premiership rather than winning won. Sounds like Manly back in the 80s.


Exactly the same. Manly would probably still be doing it but I hear they have major financial issues compounded by the $500,000 fine they received today (with another $250,000 suspended in case of further breaches).

It's funny you mentioned the Roosters. An associate who knows a couple of former club members claims it is an issue there too.
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#1471458 - 28/09/2018 08:45 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I believe if you develop the talent, you should get special exemptions under the cap. The AFL are streets ahead in this area.

I can’t stand the Roosters, back in the 70’s when Manly opened the cheque book the Roosters were the loudest shouters about the inequity of it all. Now what do we see? Remember Manly were not the first club to buy up all the talent, everyone convieniently forgets the mighty Dragons before them, they set the blue print. Talk about buying premierships! They certainly got bang for their buck.

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#1471701 - 30/09/2018 20:13 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Looking ominous early for the Storm. I said a few months back the Roosters were the team to beat.
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#1471702 - 30/09/2018 20:18 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Not sure how the Roosters are under the cap tbh. I've said it all year that something is up at that club...there's no way they can afford to sign all of those big name players.

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#1471704 - 30/09/2018 20:23 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Someone I know within the NRL reckons they are and said they were the year they exposed the Storm for breaches. We may never know. They are trying to get Munster too.

The resident troll will be along any moment. His team didn't do too well though.

Aside from that Melbourne have played themselves out out it so far. Munster got binned a few weeks back for the same. Silly stuff. Womble?
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#1471705 - 30/09/2018 20:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Mega]
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Not sure how the Roosters are under the cap tbh. I've said it all year that something is up at that club...there's no way they can afford to sign all of those big name players.


Supporters of the team that invented salary cap scamming accusing the team that's beating them of salary cap breach's.....surely you jest... crazy grin

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#1471706 - 30/09/2018 20:34 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: scott12]
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Originally Posted By: Mega
Not sure how the Roosters are under the cap tbh. I've said it all year that something is up at that club...there's no way they can afford to sign all of those big name players.


Supporters of the team that invented salary cap scamming accusing the team that's beating them of salary cap breach's.....surely you jest... crazy grin


1. I'm not a Storm supporter.
2. The Bulldogs were caught salary cap cheating in 2002...long before the Storm were.

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#1471707 - 30/09/2018 20:35 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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*breaches wink

Are you a Bulldogs supporter Mega?
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#1471708 - 30/09/2018 20:35 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Are you a Bulldog supporter Mega?


Titans. Have been since their inclusion in 2007.

Originally Posted By: ColdFront
They are trying to get Munster too.


Exactly - not to mention they just signed a test star in Ryan Hall for next year. Where is all the money coming from?

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#1471709 - 30/09/2018 21:18 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Onwards and upwards. Next year boys.
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#1471710 - 30/09/2018 21:21 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Onwards and upwards. Next year boys.


If Smith (aka the greatest to ever play the game) also retires then it's all downhill for the Storm imo. Massive boots to fill.

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#1471711 - 30/09/2018 21:24 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Mega]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Onwards and upwards. Next year boys.


If Smith (aka the greatest to ever play the game) also retires then it's all downhill for the Storm imo. Massive boots to fill.


Maybe. If any coach can bring them on through it's Bellamy. They'll be starting next season without Munster one way or another. Twit.
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#1471712 - 30/09/2018 21:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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What was Munster thinking?

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#1471713 - 30/09/2018 21:31 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Kino]
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What was Munster thinking?


No idea lol. Just foolish.

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#1471714 - 30/09/2018 21:32 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Kino]
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What was Munster thinking?


He wasn't. Not much in it but he'll go for 3 weeks and he should. No place for that in the game.
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#1471715 - 30/09/2018 21:34 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Mega]
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Go Storm.


confused

and the Storm were fined for salary cap breach's 5 years running...you wouldn't be far wrong calling them perennial cheats IMO...

and if you cant beat em..at least you can kick them in the back of the head... grin

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#1471716 - 30/09/2018 21:38 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: scott12]
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Originally Posted By: Mega
Go Storm.


confused

and the Storm were fined for salary cap breach's 5 years running...you wouldn't be far wrong calling them perennial cheats IMO...

and if you cant beat em..at least you can kick them in the back of the head... grin


Yea...Go Storm...as in I did not want to see the Roosters win it. If it was Souths vs Storm then it wouldn't have bothered me who won it.

Roosters were by far the better team tonight though...still makes me wonder though how they manage to keep all these marquee players and yet look to sign more of them.

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#1471718 - 30/09/2018 21:46 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: slipperyfish]
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Originally Posted By: slipperyfish
I believe if you develop the talent, you should get special exemptions under the cap. The AFL are streets ahead in this area.

I can’t stand the Roosters, back in the 70’s when Manly opened the cheque book the Roosters were the loudest shouters about the inequity of it all. Now what do we see? Remember Manly were not the first club to buy up all the talent, everyone convieniently forgets the mighty Dragons before them, they set the blue print. Talk about buying premierships! They certainly got bang for their buck.


Dead silence though from the statistically inept . Even Gould spoke out against what happened to the Storm in those infamous years. But no-one ever wants to discuss Hayne winning the Dally M when Parra had the biggest breach in the game's history.

... and yes Mega, the Roosters completely outplayed Storm in the first half.
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#1471721 - 30/09/2018 21:57 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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.... and you are debating with someone who is not sure whether he follows Wests , the Raiders or St George. None of who made the GF.
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#1471722 - 30/09/2018 22:11 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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All the reason to move to a soft cap ala The NBL.

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#1471740 - 01/10/2018 08:15 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Mega]
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Originally Posted By: scott12
Originally Posted By: Mega
Go Storm.


confused

and the Storm were fined for salary cap breach's 5 years running...you wouldn't be far wrong calling them perennial cheats IMO...

and if you cant beat em..at least you can kick them in the back of the head... grin


Yea...Go Storm...as in I did not want to see the Roosters win it. If it was Souths vs Storm then it wouldn't have bothered me who won it.

Roosters were by far the better team tonight though...still makes me wonder though how they manage to keep all these marquee players and yet look to sign more of them.


I don't care for either club but I much dislike a team that built the last decade or more of success based on those early years of systematic and sophisticated rorting.....

How do the Roosters keep such a good roster...?...I could understand players signing for a bit less to play for the Roosters,live in the Eastern Suburbs and have a real shot at a title rather than some of those trainwreck Western Suburbs clubs....but speculation is rather pointless.....unless someone has some proof than its nothing more than a fart in the wind...

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#1471767 - 01/10/2018 18:32 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Great to see Cronk and Slater embrace after the game.
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#1471771 - 01/10/2018 19:21 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I tipped the Roosters grin
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#1471783 - 01/10/2018 20:24 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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Originally Posted By: @_Yasified_shak
I tipped the Roosters grin


You did well Dean...I don't think many gave them a chance, particularly with Cronk injured...…

How good did Keary play though...I wonder if the Gladiator is regretting treating him like crap now...

The Storm played like a bunch of 35 year old men...... wink

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#1471788 - 01/10/2018 21:29 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: @_Yasified_shak]
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I tipped the Roosters grin


So did I. Months ago.
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#1471840 - 02/10/2018 15:13 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1474134 - 19/10/2018 15:41 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The Footy show was axed late last year, then a month or so later it was apparently back on with new hosts?!

I only watched it once for about 1/2 and hour as it was that boring, even Beau Ryan came out and said he was watching out the back and it was pretty boring!

Who else is going for Tonga for a win? smile
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#1474517 - 23/10/2018 10:40 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The footy show died when they sacked Matthew Johns.
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#1475886 - 15/11/2018 20:09 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1475902 - 16/11/2018 01:11 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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There goes the deal with St George,- and any other club that were checking what they had left in the kitty.

He needs to learn when it's best to leave his wizzy in his pants. laugh

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#1475913 - 16/11/2018 10:26 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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There goes the deal with St George,- and any other club that were checking what they had left in the kitty.

He needs to learn when it's best to leave his wizzy in his pants. laugh


Thank heavens this came out before the Dragons actually signed this clown.....he seems to leave a steaming pile of crap behind wherever he goes...and gives very little in return..

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#1475945 - 16/11/2018 18:47 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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To my way of thinking, he isn't worth any more money than the $200k Parra have left in their purse.

His notion that he is still worth $700k a year is a long way off the mark. His ego is getting in the way of his capabilities.

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#1475972 - 17/11/2018 10:43 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The Hayne Plane needs to purchase a clip-board and have each mademoiselle sign a consent form in advance.
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#1475993 - 17/11/2018 15:26 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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He was only ever half decent as a player in one season a few years back now. Ever since he has been way over rated by others in the game. Not worth a cracker. He destroyed the Titans on his signing and then last year Parra slumped when he returned. Coincidence?
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#1476132 - 19/11/2018 18:47 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Safe to say that's the last we will see of the Hayne Plane in the NRL...
poor Jarryd

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#1476134 - 19/11/2018 19:08 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Its a bit disappointing that these athletes that owe their success to Rugby league and all the coaches and organisations that have put in countless hours to get them where they are today, don't give a damn about contracts,commitments or their clubs and fans.....and besides American footy just seems to be such a dumb game..I don't get it..!..

Val going to American Football


Edited by scott12 (19/11/2018 19:10)

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#1476144 - 19/11/2018 19:58 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Hayne is spending the night in the lockup according to the news tonight. What a spectacular fall from grace. Maybe Parramatta can try to rebuild the team they tore down to accommodate that grub with the money they'll save
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#1476171 - 19/11/2018 22:09 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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The charge carries a maximum 20-year jail term if Hayne is convicted.

Well that's one way of avoiding the USA charges due to be heard in 2020.
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#1476230 - 20/11/2018 16:46 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: Beltane]
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The charge carries a maximum 20-year jail term if Hayne is convicted.

Unless the magistrate is a Parra Eels tragic !

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#1476239 - 20/11/2018 17:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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Or he would get 20 years, but be out on Parole in 12 months....
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#1476263 - 20/11/2018 20:48 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1476270 - 20/11/2018 21:53 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I noticed some publications have backed off the “had sex” line. Did they or did they not have sex? I think the media are being rather liberal with their accuracy here.

Regardless it seems the grub had a fair chew on the young lass. Goodness me, things have changed since I was a young bloke.

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#1476273 - 20/11/2018 22:24 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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So much for presumption of innocence, despite the fact he’s a c**khead. Oops thought it’d beep that word out 😂


Edited by Kino (20/11/2018 22:24)

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#1476274 - 20/11/2018 22:33 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I don't know if he is guilty or not Kino. I just said it won't be hard to prove.... one way or another. Police look at evidence before they decide to charge someone however. Then there's that incident in the USA. Is he just super unlucky?
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#1476275 - 20/11/2018 22:35 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: slipperyfish]
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I noticed some publications have backed off the “had sex” line. Did they or did they not have sex?


Police issued a statement yesterday saying he had been charged with aggravated sexual assault. Have they revoked that?
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#1476278 - 20/11/2018 22:42 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I don't know if he is guilty or not Kino. I just said it won't be hard to prove.... one way or another. Police look at evidence before they decide to charge someone however. Then there's that incident in the USA. Is he just super unlucky?


I dunno, I just know that our system is built on the premise of innocent until proven guilty.

The US one is interesting - if the DA says there’s not enough evidence, then surely that’s a powerful statement?

And this one also is weird, he drives all that way to bite her? Bizarre. But then again that is Hayne all over.

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#1476281 - 20/11/2018 23:08 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Just because there is not enough evidence does not make someone innocent. Plenty of women have been advised they were unlikely to get a result so do not proceed.

It's like I said. They don't proceed to charge unless there is something amiss. The arresting officer must get clearance to proceed to charge. If there is insufficient evidence they don't proceed. In that regard the American system is the same as ours.
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#1476285 - 20/11/2018 23:47 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Unless the hospital where she sought treatment took images, and maybe a swab of the bites, it might be a case of him saying 'I didn't, and her saying yes you did'.
The cameras in the taxi's, and the drivers evidence would only prove he did attend the address.

If, in fact, a DNA swab was taken, then it's all over red rover for Hayne.

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#1476288 - 20/11/2018 23:55 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I mis-worded my reply . Distinctive bite marks are admissible in court.

Yes, if images were taken. This happened on Sept 30, so the marks would be well and truly healed by now.

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#1476290 - 21/11/2018 00:00 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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Originally Posted By: ColdFront
I mis-worded my reply . Distinctive bite marks are admissible in court.

Yes, if images were taken. This happened on Sept 30, so the marks would be well and truly healed by now.



None of the articles suggest it was only recently reported. There is sometimes a lengthy procedure before someone is formerly charged. The NRL grandfinal was only 7 weeks ago.

From one article...

"Off-contract NRL star Jarryd Hayne is reportedly being investigated by the NSW Sex Crimes Squad after an alleged sexual assault on NRL grand final night this year.
Channel 9 reports Hayne is the subject of a police investigation after a woman made allegations of sexual assault against him after the pair met up in the Hunter Region on September 30.

According to the report, the woman, who had been in contact with Hayne via social media, claims she suffered injuries during the sexual encounter with the former Test player and has photographic evidence."
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#1476293 - 21/11/2018 00:33 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I mis-worded my reply . Distinctive bite marks are admissible in court.

Yes, if images were taken. This happened on Sept 30, so the marks would be well and truly healed by now.



None of the articles suggest it was only recently reported. There is sometimes a lengthy procedure before someone is formerly charged. The NRL grandfinal was only 7 weeks ago.

From one article...
"According to the report, the woman, who had been in contact with Hayne via social media, claims she suffered injuries during the sexual encounter with the former Test player and has photographic evidence."

I'm thinking she has taken the image/s of her bite/s.
I'm sure that, on Dec 10, a whole lot more will be revealed.

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#1476298 - 21/11/2018 07:57 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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It seems they were in the genital region and may of been taken at the hospital. This will be the reason it is sexual assault charge.

I think the plane is about to be grounded. 20 yrs is a beat up, rarely get that for these days.

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#1476304 - 21/11/2018 08:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Gee times sure have changed since I was a young, single guy...all this hooking up via social media and Tinder and in the heat of the moment when a girl said "eat me" they didn't mean it quite so literally..!.....


I can understand why the woman was reluctant to initially come forward..if it goes to trial her whole life will be a nightmare as it will become a media circus and Haynes legal team will go to any length to discredit her...

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#1476369 - 21/11/2018 18:19 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: scott12]
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With the USA case, it was probably a case of his big head getting the better of him (rather than his little head) probably trying to brag what a big star he is, and now he is a famous NFL player.... Hence why she wants to sue him for big dollars.
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#1476753 - 24/11/2018 14:53 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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She's a gold digger, for sure. The cops were happy that he didn't have a case to answer and did nothing, then a year later, all of a sudden she initiates a civil suit.

The document even states:- "For a money judgment representing compensatory damages". Dated Dec 19th 2017

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#1476761 - 24/11/2018 17:16 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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That's the purpose of a civil suit.
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#1476764 - 24/11/2018 18:27 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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But compensation for what, if the cops say he isn't guilty of breaking any law ??
He's committed no crime.

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#1476766 - 24/11/2018 18:50 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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But compensation for what, if the cops say he isn't guilty of breaking any law ??
He's committed no crime.


The cops didn't say that at all mate..they said they didn't have the evidence to charge him...I think its a very complicated situation...the girl got in over her head ..maybe she wanted something more than Wham,bam,thankyou mam with 20 minute Jarryd..or more probably she was put in a detrimental situation by an older more experienced, predatory guy that was bigger, stronger and full of alcohol and testosterone and once she let it drag on for whatever reason then there goes any physical evidence and then its just a he said/she said situation....I dont know what happened only that's charges and convictions often have little to do with actual guilt or innocence in the real world..


Also I think sometimes only hindsight can determine was was acceptable behaviour and what was abuse, particularly if you are talking about egocentric celebrities and women who are relatively inexperienced in the wiles of fellas looking for an easy lay...

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#1476770 - 24/11/2018 19:56 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Plus the burden of guilt is less to win a civil trial....think back to OJ Simpson..

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#1476781 - 24/11/2018 23:09 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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But compensation for what, if the cops say he isn't guilty of breaking any law ??
He's committed no crime.


If only it was that simple. That's not what they said in the interview I saw. In the USA they don't pursue where they don't think they have sufficient evidence to win the case.

I remember one of those "not guilty" celebrities being tailed by numerous police cars on live TV once upon a time as he fled a crime scene.
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#1476787 - 25/11/2018 05:38 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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My point is how can he be made to pay her compensation, for a crime that, (in the eyes of the law), wasn't committed ?

I'm not saying he is innocent, but as they laid no charges,- to them he is an innocent man. Insufficient evidence maybe, but you don't pay compensation for a non-existent crime.

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#1476803 - 25/11/2018 10:49 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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but you don't pay compensation for a non-existent crime.


https://www.bustle.com/articles/152048-w...not-mean-guilty
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#1476859 - 25/11/2018 19:02 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Originally Posted By: hickory
but you don't pay compensation for a non-existent crime.


https://www.bustle.com/articles/152048-w...not-mean-guilty


"in a criminal trial, the jury must unanimously find the defendant guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" in order to convict."

With Hayne there was no criminal trial to prove 'guilt' or 'no guilt'.

"the same burden of proof does not exist in civil cases, which merely require what's referred to as a "preponderance of evidence." According to Cornell University Law School, that "preponderance of evidence" means that at least "50 percent of the evidence points to something," rather than requiring a unanimous decision".

Again - there was no criminal trial against Hayne for there to even be a "preponderance of evidence" for "at least "50 percent of the evidence points to something,".

An interesting article all the same. The US legal system seems fairly unique, but in a country where a dog can sue it's master, nothing surprises me.

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#1476887 - 25/11/2018 21:27 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yes I read out. I believe the criminal case is entirely independent of a civil suit.
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#1476901 - 26/11/2018 03:07 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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Yes I read out. I believe the criminal case is entirely independent of a civil suit.

That was a well put together article you linked.
But he may be in the slammer here before the US civil matter is heard. laugh

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#1476989 - 26/11/2018 16:16 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1477936 - 30/11/2018 15:37 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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#1478006 - 01/12/2018 14:34 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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They can't be too broke if they just signed Shaun Johnson for 3 years.

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#1478037 - 01/12/2018 18:34 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: hickory]
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Maybe why they let Val go, to free up a Million or so....
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#1478448 - 04/12/2018 21:44 Re: NRL Season 2018 [Re: ColdFront]
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I bet Flanagan would have loved to have had both of them.

Also,- surely Gallen can't go on after 2019. He's certainly slowing down a bit, (as expected). I think Billy and Thurston did the best thing by not trying to stretch it one more year and go out on a low note.
As for Cameron Smith, he's starting to think he's bigger than the game. confused

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