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#1453877 - 22/02/2018 13:44 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
ifishcq Offline
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Registered: 31/01/2018
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Now we are going to Cat 6

I bet the media will be lapping that up

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/categ...ter-says/527541

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#1454080 - 23/02/2018 15:46 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Kino Offline
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Won't happen. NZ Cat 5 isn't even a true Cat 5 lol. How about they align with the rest of the world first, then they won't need Cat 6.

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#1455145 - 28/02/2018 18:12 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
rasaq Offline
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I am wonder about the different reports on social medias concerning weather conditions here in Kurdistan....
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#1455569 - 04/03/2018 07:29 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: ifishcq]
Nev Offline
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Registered: 21/10/2006
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Loc: Waiheke Island, Auckland, NZ
Originally Posted By: ifishcq
Now we are going to Cat 6

I bet the media will be lapping that up

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/categ...ter-says/527541


Those wind speed figures quoted by NZ's Green Party leader and newly appointed Climate Change Minister are complete garbage. The NZ MetService uses the same TC Category Scale as the BoM, Fiji Met and JMA, i.e. a Cat 5 has 10-minute mean winds greater than 200 km/h with no upper limit (3-minute gusts may also exceed 280 km/h).

Some of the region's strongest recent TC's in terms of max 10-minute mean-wind include:

TC Winston in 2016 - Nadi 232 km/h, JTWC 253 km/h (1-minute 287 km/h)
TC Pam in 2015 - Nadi 250 km/h, JTWC 238 km/h (1-minute 270 km/h)
TC Monica in 2006 - BoM 250 km/h, JTWC 251 km/h (1-minute 285 km/h)
TC Zoe in 2002 - Nadi at 240 km/h, JTWC 251 km/h (1-minute 285 km/h)


Edited by Nev (04/03/2018 07:33)

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#1455575 - 04/03/2018 09:03 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
liberator Offline
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Registered: 28/11/2010
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So Nev you can point out the truth and show us but the ABC didnt bother. They just reported what he said. So now those who trust the media will just go "wow i didnt know that" and accept what was said to be true because the media, as in the ABC reported it so it must be true because we all trust the ABC.

I've always said the media should just report the facts and leave their own spin and opinion well away from the facts. Why didnt the ABC investigate his claims as quoted and report those as well just as you have. Is that their job or not? Should we rely an the media to give us just what was quoted or should the media fact check and present to us both sides of an argument so we can make an informed decison?

Most people will just read what was publised and not question it, not question what the minster said and then we have a missinformed public because they only got one side of the story.

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#1455647 - 04/03/2018 17:08 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Nev Offline
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Oops... of course I meant, '3-second gusts may also exceed 280 km/h' (not '3-minute gusts…')... blush

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#1455745 - 05/03/2018 10:04 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Brett Guy Offline
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Registered: 05/10/2010
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Loc: Bently Park, Cairns
Cairns post and co running with a cyclone story today based on a social media site they reference as being 'the only person to predict last weeks townsville deluge'. Surely this crap has to be a good reason for professional media to be regulated. There should be severe penalties for this sort of crap.

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#1455917 - 06/03/2018 12:57 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Kino Offline
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Loc: Wollongong, NSW, Aus
Wonder if the media and said social-media sites are feeling a tad sheepish today after NO models have a cyclone anywhere near the QLD east coast anymore?

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#1455923 - 06/03/2018 13:56 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
bbowen Offline
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Unfortunately Kino, this is the part that never gets aired. It would be nice to see these sites and news sources forced to print retractions or the other side for balance.

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#1455930 - 06/03/2018 15:26 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Knot Offline
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The only thing professional about the media is the pro bit if you know what I mean. And sadly, social media aids chinese whispers. Couple that with low IQ in the media and this sort of thing is to be expected.


Edited by Knot (06/03/2018 15:27)
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#1456078 - 07/03/2018 15:33 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
gympieweather Offline
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Registered: 22/09/2002
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It's not BoM's fault at all, it is the Media with exaggeration, links to the wrong source of information plus their own Bios on the story to keep it exciting...
Here we go again, I'm sure that this is out of context for a bit of drama.
Gympie Times
STORY
Cyclone chance firms as bureau remains on watch
by Cas Garvey (7 Mar 2018, 11:30 AM)
A monsoon trough is developing in the Gulf with the potential to form into a tropical cyclone at the weekend. Meanwhile Cyclone Hola formed overnight near Vanuatu (far right of picture).
THE weather bureau continues to be on cyclone watch, with the chance of two cyclones forming over the next week.

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#1456081 - 07/03/2018 15:56 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: gympieweather]
ifishcq Offline
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Registered: 31/01/2018
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Loc: Rockhampton
Originally Posted By: gympieweather
It's not BoM's fault at all, it is the Media with exaggeration, links to the wrong source of information plus their own Bios on the story to keep it exciting...
Here we go again, I'm sure that this is out of context for a bit of drama.
Gympie Times
STORY
Cyclone chance firms as bureau remains on watch
by Cas Garvey (7 Mar 2018, 11:30 AM)
A monsoon trough is developing in the Gulf with the potential to form into a tropical cyclone at the weekend. Meanwhile Cyclone Hola formed overnight near Vanuatu (far right of picture).
THE weather bureau continues to be on cyclone watch, with the chance of two cyclones forming over the next week.


Had a similar thing to that story on local FM radio station here in Rockhampton today. Already the bread & milk has started to vanish from the supermarket shelves.

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#1456082 - 07/03/2018 16:38 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
gympieweather Offline
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Registered: 22/09/2002
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It's not so far out of context really because we know that TC Hola has already formed but not in our AOR. Then you have the current situation with the potential of another forming in the Gulf, being two cyclones. I believe TC Hola will go pole-ward before coming close to the East of Australia and the one in the Gulf will wobble but ultimately go West. When you combine this article with the hype that has gone on during the last two days of a cyclone crossing the east coast, it is really misleading to the general public with such blurred information being presented to them.

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#1456084 - 07/03/2018 17:15 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
scott12 Offline
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“However, the one to watch will be at the end of February into March,” he said.
“I predicted Cyclone Debbie, Yasi, Oswald and Marcia.”

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/ne...c9d9e33dc529999

That's disgraceful to use that as a headline back in November..

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#1456086 - 07/03/2018 17:47 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Funkyseefunkydo Offline
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Registered: 30/04/2007
Posts: 725
Loc: East Lake Macquarie
Noticed daily mail has a story running that this winter will be the coldest ever. Snow in places that don’t get snow. Quoting some Dave Taylor who has 4000 followers on FB page.

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#1456094 - 07/03/2018 18:53 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Steve O Offline
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Registered: 02/03/2011
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Loc: Beenleigh, QLD
Thats crazy, cant believe that stuff is going on. Start of spring Garry Youngberry on 9 was saying it was going to be dry as and bad bushfire season...

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#1456096 - 07/03/2018 19:23 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
ozone doug Offline
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Registered: 06/11/2006
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Loc: Roma SW QLD Eye to the West...
Where's Ken Ring. He's been quiet lately lol. March you gotta watch always a cyclone somewhere in march.
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#1456099 - 07/03/2018 19:44 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
scott12 Offline
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Registered: 10/11/2015
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Loc: maadi Tully area
Yeah well the odds are pretty high that we will get a cyclone in the Coral sea in March,any March, but you cant run a headline that specifies the actual week and that it will hit the coast 3 months out based on Sunspot activity..but the media sees no problem in doing just that...


and yep I also read that we are facing a veritable ice age this winter..and once again based on those pesky sunspots and the fact that's its been cold in the Northern hemisphere.....!

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#1456108 - 07/03/2018 20:46 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Flowin Offline
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Registered: 15/10/2017
Posts: 589
Loc: Pinjarra Hills, Qld
The mention of cyclone seems to be a trigger for the media.
Not much ineterest when the forecast for tomorrow is same as today, and not that much different to yesterday.

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#1456118 - 07/03/2018 22:17 Re: Traditional media & Social media and the impact on weather understanding [Re: bbowen]
Brett Guy Offline
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Registered: 05/10/2010
Posts: 5123
Loc: Bently Park, Cairns
Nothing wrong with theorizing on solar activity. Makes sense it would have an effect but making predictions is idiotic and professional media running with those predictions is borderline criminal.

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