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#1455399 - 02/03/2018 08:52 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: NotsohopefulPete]
Lewis Offline
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I think we’re forgetting that whatever has gone wrong with Stappy is clearly a serious, on-going issue. While it is frustrating that it has happened just months after an overhaul, sometimes the biggest issues happen after overhauls.

Australia wouldn’t have the population, nor the demand, to occupy the expertise and justify having highly-qualified radar technicians. If you compare Australia’s demand to that of Europe or North America, we’d be a drop in the ocean, and it’d be impractical to train, qualify and employ people who’d be overseas most of the time.

Also - re planes, they sometimes do get flown to France for technical work, if the repair can’t be done by an airline, so this radar repair is a similar kind of thing.


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#1455408 - 02/03/2018 09:15 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
Kazz63 Offline
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Registered: 10/01/2011
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Seriously I do NOT understand all this hysteria about Mt Stapy.
Our lives are monitored by machines and computers; more & more this will mean things need fixing.
It's a specialised piece of equipment and frankly you'd want the people who developed it to be working on it. The cost and time involved in training someone here to deal with these issues are probably wastefully as by the time they are trained in this model, it would be superseded by another (possibly by a different manufacturer) and thus the training would begin again; a pointless venture when the world is much smaller these days and travel between countries is mere matter of hours. It wouldn't take long for an outcry about the expenses of the BoM.
And realistically, the radar is used for short term weather watching. There are a myriad of other ways to keep an eye on the weather, one radar is not the be all & end all of observations.
People these days are too spoilt with technology. I think it's pretty sad to think in a forum full of dedicated weather watchers there is this feeling of being 'crippled' by this outage.
The biggest thing that annoys me are these days of 'please explain'. People demanding to know what is going on, Bom must explain what is happening etc. Just let them get on with fixing the problem; I'm sure if there was something to know, they'd let us know after they have put all their efforts into correcting it rather than having to stop and answer the kids tugging on the apron strings every few days.

Open your doors & window people, look outside & learn more about your weather in your area. It's amazing what you learn just by looking outside.
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#1455436 - 02/03/2018 14:11 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
Rod H Offline
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Lewis:
From what I understand there are 26 similar radar sites of this type around Australia so that alone should warrant a technician or two to be suitably trained in their repair.
The only time an aeroplane is flown back to the manufacturer is if there is a major air frame repair job and that can only be done where it was built because only they have the jigs etc. to do a rebuild.
Kazz33;
It's all fine and good to look outside but it is a bit hard to track a CB at 120 k distance without radar.Very handy to know which way they are heading!!! Marburg is reasonable but not a patch on Mt Staylton when it's working , so much more accuracy in it's display.
The BOM do have people other than those correcting this problem and they could simply let interested people know how things are going. It's not very hard to communicate with all of this technology available these days.

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#1455445 - 02/03/2018 15:27 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Mad Elf #1.5]
Mega Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mad Elf #1.5
Just noticed the new message on the Stapy website, mid March. Hoping it means this year.


Sorry but I did get a chuckle out of this.

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#1455452 - 02/03/2018 15:45 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
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I have it on good authority that working or not currently, said radar will be off the air again at some point during April ( most likely after the Games ) for a mid life rebuild.
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#1455454 - 02/03/2018 15:51 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
Snapper22lb Offline
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I heard the technician is backpacking from Germany then having time off to attend a few of his favourite events at the Goldie!

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#1455457 - 02/03/2018 15:58 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
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Maybe start a radar discussion thread. Or Higgins might know, if you pay him smile

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#1455483 - 02/03/2018 18:29 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Rod H]
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Originally Posted By: Rod H
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It's all fine and good to look outside but it is a bit hard to track a CB at 120 k distance without radar.Very handy to know which way they are heading!!! .....

CB??
What's a CB?
Must be a dangerous event that regularly occurs to have invoked the power of the triple exclamation mark.'
confused
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#1455486 - 02/03/2018 18:52 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Kazz63]
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Originally Posted By: Kazz63
Originally Posted By: Rod H
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It's all fine and good to look outside but it is a bit hard to track a CB at 120 k distance without radar.Very handy to know which way they are heading!!! .....

CB??
What's a CB?
Must be a dangerous event that regularly occurs to have invoked the power of the triple exclamation mark.'
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#1455525 - 03/03/2018 13:02 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
Rod H Offline
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Loc: Maudsland
If ever you have been caught in a CB ( Cumulonimbus ) then you would understand that the triple explanation mark signifies the danger. Even more dangerous when flying .

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#1455538 - 03/03/2018 16:31 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
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Pretty easy to track them by using your eyes if you ask me; and not that hard to work out what it's doing by again just observing.
And I'm sure, as I have said before, there are more ways to keep a track of them if you are flying.
Sorry you haven't convinced me that we are living dangerously by not having this radar in service while it's being fixed.
I'll agree to disagree on this.
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#1455539 - 03/03/2018 17:05 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
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Don't Know why everyone is going crazy over one radar site most places have one radar like my area.Then i use the sat picture and lightning and other tools like barometer . Brisbane has three nearly 4 radars Mt Stapleton, Marburg ,Gympie, Grafton just to the south. Must have been a terrifying world before the internet lol.


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#1455540 - 03/03/2018 17:11 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
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Ozone doug
Probably due to tax payers money. Being promised an amazing radar
Then getting one that is scared of bad weather
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#1455570 - 04/03/2018 07:42 Re: SE QLD/ NE NSW Upper Low showers/rain possible storms 20 Feb-26 Feb 2018 [Re: Squeako_88]
Rod H Offline
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Registered: 01/05/2006
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Loc: Maudsland
Gee you must have good eyes to be able to see them when they are 150 kilometres away. The radar gives us a very good idea of their current and probable track. When one is flying one does NOT use any ground based radar to track storms. The on board radar is used and the only reason I mentioned it is that if ever you have been caught up in one in flight then you would know how serious they can be.They can literally kill.
Nobody said it was " dangerous " without a good radar merely that it is easier to accurately track a CB and thus advise people who don't have such excellent eyes of their path and to take steps to minimise any damage to persons or property.If it's no big deal having Stayplton off the air then why bother to have it repaired at all , seems like mark 1 eyeballs are all we need.

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