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#1463566 - 10/05/2018 19:27 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: Prozerpyne23]
Homer Offline
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Originally Posted By: Prozerpyne23
Can anyone tell me always been curious, why does the temperature in Melbourne never get cold enough for snow? Like the CBD area? It’s about 7c now so can’t it keep dropping over night and then if rain moves through it will change to snow or is the cloud cover keeping it warmer and and preventing it dropping lower... if the cloud cleared for a period and allowed the temperature to drop could it snow? Sometimes I’ve seen the temperatures rise as the rain has approached.


Blame the southern ocean.
If Canada was below Australia, it would snow in Melbourne regularly during winter.

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#1463568 - 10/05/2018 19:38 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Max of 10c up here today with a rude bitter
Wind blowing!! Received 10mm overnight
With the front but nothing since.

Currently 5c and we will see how things ramp
Up rain and wind wise overnight tonight and
Tommoz?

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#1463569 - 10/05/2018 19:40 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: Homer]
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Originally Posted By: Homer
Blame the southern ocean.
If Canada was below Australia, it would snow in Melbourne regularly during winter.


The water keeps the air warmer by retaining more heat right? Similar cause as to why the West coast of the US/Canada receives little to no snow fall at sea level most winters. Southern UK same issue I think... could be wrong.

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#1463573 - 10/05/2018 19:57 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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The 532 air mass is really starting to impact now, ie 6C @ Moornapa and 8C at E/Sale.

Certainly fresh yr patch Dooga.....better get that fire stoked up !
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#1463575 - 10/05/2018 20:01 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: balmz]
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Originally Posted By: balmz
Originally Posted By: Homer
Blame the southern ocean.
If Canada was below Australia, it would snow in Melbourne regularly during winter.


The water keeps the air warmer by retaining more heat right? Similar cause as to why the West coast of the US/Canada receives little to no snow fall at sea level most winters. Southern UK same issue I think... could be wrong.


Correct.

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#1463578 - 10/05/2018 20:27 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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#1463579 - 10/05/2018 20:27 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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9.0mm till lunch today, almost all of that overnight. Maybe 0.5mm in coldies today, will check tomorrow if possible.

Maximum was at midnight of 8.1c, hasn't been near that since. Currently 1.6c with a blob of precip heading this way.
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#1463580 - 10/05/2018 20:30 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Some nice heavy rain and Thunder here. Interesting radar loop over Melbourne, almost seems to split as it hits the coast off around the bay and go NW and NE!

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#1463582 - 10/05/2018 20:36 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Inland Victoria are more colder at night from High pressure frost (no clouds) and polar Cold upper pool when stable over night.

The Higher ground fall snow depends freezing altitude level.

All Coast towns are warmer because the Ocean is warmer breeze..

SE Australia need more SW to S jet-stream bring wintry.

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#1463669 - 11/05/2018 12:03 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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First rain starting now - light, from the SW. Bitterly cold.

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#1463671 - 11/05/2018 12:32 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Absolutely chucking it down in the CBD with that bitterly cold wind. Umbrellas no match.

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#1463675 - 11/05/2018 14:11 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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How's this - WOW !!! - Mt Wellington 1260m ASL in Tassie, 236mm gusting to 132kph to 0900hrs this morning (11/5).

Had round 10mm in Sale, cool outside, modest breeze, barely worth mentioning compared to above.
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#1463676 - 11/05/2018 14:30 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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As I read your post Samboz I thought you were referring to Mt. Wellington north of you LOL.

Pretty amazing figures.

Only (maybe cos I haven't checked) a mm or two here yet.

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#1463687 - 11/05/2018 17:01 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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I'm getting a horrible feeling that what Sale hasn't rec'd by middnight will be to bad, may be all over after then. Up to 0.4mm Sat, what a flop of an ECL at this stage.

BOM/re SALE tomorrow Sat 12/5 -

"Sat 12 May Forecast Cloudy Min10 °CMax16 °C Cloudy.
Possible rainfall: 0 to 0.4 mm Chance of any rain: 30%
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#1463689 - 11/05/2018 17:10 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Yeas, Samboz we (but especially to the west of me) very dependent on what falls tonight. Raining steadily but not heavily - about 5mm so far.


Edited by ThunderBob (11/05/2018 17:10)
Edit Reason: typo

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#1463694 - 11/05/2018 19:00 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Originally Posted By: samboz
I'm getting a horrible feeling that what Sale hasn't rec'd by middnight will be to bad, may be all over after then. Up to 0.4mm Sat, what a flop of an ECL at this stage.

BOM/re SALE tomorrow Sat 12/5 -

"Sat 12 May Forecast Cloudy Min10 °CMax16 °C Cloudy.
Possible rainfall: 0 to 0.4 mm Chance of any rain: 30%


GFS and EC predicted the late afternoon lull (going by Windy), a "Bass Straight Blob" looks to be assembling, with intent on a visit to Sale from the SE very soon by my obs??:




Nice 12mm rain to add to the 3.25mm I tipped out last evening. Been relatively calm here too Samboz, ....and cold (13c at 5pm). I'll bet a slab that Sale will pick up at least 12mm more tonight.

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#1463695 - 11/05/2018 19:05 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Been for months last time Gusty windy South/SE winds, fast overcast clouds bring Thurs 10mm and Today 8mm Total to 18mm

Amateur David Taylor has said Australia breaking record icy winter weather events publicize March 5th 2018..

So i think David Taylor is plausible because,

Tasmania never seen horrible floods in Street alot of damage and heavy ocean waves.

Victoria wide spread snow on mountains and good rains.
Freezing to SA,VIC, half NSW.

Sydney turn wait see what happens to east Coast when low pressure comes into ocean..

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#1463697 - 11/05/2018 19:36 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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Starting to sound genuine about raining now. That "blob" coming to visit Petros.


Edited by ThunderBob (11/05/2018 19:37)

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#1463703 - 11/05/2018 21:02 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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20mm up here over the last two days.
Thought we would get a lot more but handy
Rain none the less. Suspected we where being
Somewhat sheltered by tassie with that southerly
Flow today

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#1463708 - 11/05/2018 21:31 Re: Rain/Snow for Vic, commence Wed 9/5, ECL ? [Re: samboz]
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about 13 mm here which is good
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