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#1484070 - 04/01/2019 19:21 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Night time firefighting chopper is enroute from Ballarat from the Rosedale fire.
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#1484073 - 04/01/2019 19:27 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Dry change has arrived here. Normal typical change winds.

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#1484082 - 04/01/2019 19:55 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Noticed the intensity of the fire plume has increased as you'd expect with the dry SW'ly change over the past 30 mins:



.....but nice to see that the lesser than possible intensity of the change has allowed the CFA to ease back the fire threat for those NE of the fire line.

....those big planes obviously do a fantastic job in quelling the north edge of the burn line - especially given (my understanding only), that the late afternoon fire advance was in areas not conducive to truck based fire fighting.


Edited by Petros (04/01/2019 19:57)

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#1484084 - 04/01/2019 20:16 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Listening to concerning reports on ABC about the causes of today's "other than Rosedale fire starts" .....anyone hear what started this one????

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#1484085 - 04/01/2019 20:18 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Just had a shower of rain, which has dampened
And cooled everything down.
Just enough to wet the ground

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#1484086 - 04/01/2019 20:29 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: Petros]
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Originally Posted By: Petros
Listening to concerning reports on ABC about the causes of today's "other than Rosedale fire starts" .....anyone hear what started this one????


Herald Sun reporting it as suspicious i believe. Fire investigators won't have been in yet so i'd doubt its confirm just more that there isn't any other obvious cause.

The Strathbogie fire seemed to have started as a Hay Shed fire.


Also about the work the large air tankers did, based on tracking it seemed from the very beginning they and 2 small bombers focused on the NE flank, with the aim to keep that fire activity to as little as possible while the choppers worked on the head of the fire. This fire is almost a text book example of what we have the big bombers for.

Honestly considering the length of time this fire had to run SE'ly and the smoke cloud visible i'm surprised it didn't go way further, seems there wasn't much considerable spotting.


Edited by logansi (04/01/2019 20:39)
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#1484089 - 04/01/2019 20:42 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
Night time firefighting chopper is enroute from Ballarat from the Rosedale fire.


They have been chomping at the bit to use this toy. I think it might get a good run tonight. Have they done any night drops yet?
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#1484090 - 04/01/2019 20:45 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: Dawoodman]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
Night time firefighting chopper is enroute from Ballarat from the Rosedale fire.


They have been chomping at the bit to use this toy. I think it might get a good run tonight. Have they done any night drops yet?


Not really, they went down to the Little River fire but from all reports it was more of an exercise/practice as by that time crews were only blacking out. They are over the Rosedale fire now.
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#1484091 - 04/01/2019 20:50 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
Originally Posted By: Petros
Listening to concerning reports on ABC about the causes of today's "other than Rosedale fire starts" .....anyone hear what started this one????


Herald Sun reporting it as suspicious i believe. Fire investigators won't have been in yet so i'd doubt its confirm just more that there isn't any other obvious cause.

The Strathbogie fire seemed to have started as a Hay Shed fire.


Also about the work the large air tankers did, based on tracking it seemed from the very beginning they and 2 small bombers focused on the NE flank, with the aim to keep that fire activity to as little as possible while the choppers worked on the head of the fire. This fire is almost a text book example of what we have the big bombers for.

Honestly considering the length of time this fire had to run SE'ly and the smoke cloud visible i'm surprised it didn't go way further, seems there wasn't much considerable spotting.


From what I saw from Maffra, ....those aircraft did an amazing job!

We are very lucky to live in a fire prone region such as Victoria, WITH such expert and (proven, and re-proven) excellent fire suppression response.

Proud of all of our firey's!

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#1484092 - 04/01/2019 20:55 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Yep, as I pilot myself i'm always amazed at the skills of our firefighting pilots

This gives you an idea of the work they were doing on that flank


Photo Herald Sun


Edited by logansi (04/01/2019 20:55)
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#1484095 - 04/01/2019 21:10 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Wish I had seen that skill display, but also wish I don't have to!

Well done again you blokes, Logansi, your posts are very much appreciated by us all.


Edited by Petros (04/01/2019 21:12)

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#1484102 - 04/01/2019 21:47 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Back to Emergency

This Emergency Warning is being issued for residents north of the Rosedale-Longford Road and south of the Princes Highway in the areas of Fulham, Kilmany, Kilmany South, Pearsondale.

There is a bushfire 6.3Km South of Rosedale that is not yet under control.
The bushfire is travelling in a north-easterly direction towards the Latrobe River and the Princes Highway.
This fire is threatening homes and lives.
You are in danger and need to act immediately to survive.

The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately. It is too late to leave.
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#1484103 - 04/01/2019 21:48 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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This Emergency Warning is being issued for residents north of the Rosedale-Longford Road and south of the Princes Highway in the areas of Fulham, Kilmany, Kilmany South, Pearsondale.

There is a bushfire 6.3Km South of Rosedale that is not yet under control.
The bushfire is travelling in a north-easterly direction towards the Latrobe River and the Princes Highway.
This fire is threatening homes and lives.

You are in danger and need to act immediately to survive.
The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately. It is too late to leave.

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Suprized to see this ... suggests (though of course I'm not in a position to say) that control has been lost of the northern flank under strong wind.



Edited by ThunderBob (04/01/2019 21:49)

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#1484105 - 04/01/2019 21:51 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Bet ya too it lol - North East flank never was undercontrol but they seemed confident before that they would keep it in the forest and plantations south of Rosedale-Longford Road.
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#1484109 - 04/01/2019 22:04 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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That's cool Logansi!

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#1484110 - 04/01/2019 22:07 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Cool change has made conditions nice in Maffra.


.....but think of the folk near this in Stradbroke SSE of Rosedale:



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#1484111 - 04/01/2019 22:10 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: ThunderBob]
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Originally Posted By: ThunderBob


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Suprized to see this ... suggests (though of course I'm not in a position to say) that control has been lost of the northern flank under strong wind.



From the Maffra perspective TB, the change is a managable one (but I have no fire experience). Reckon its a big fire, but in plantations now, ....not expected to impact personal property???

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#1484113 - 04/01/2019 22:15 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Originally Posted By: logansi
Originally Posted By: Dawoodman
Originally Posted By: logansi
Night time firefighting chopper is enroute from Ballarat from the Rosedale fire.


They have been chomping at the bit to use this toy. I think it might get a good run tonight. Have they done any night drops yet?


Not really, they went down to the Little River fire but from all reports it was more of an exercise/practice as by that time crews were only blacking out. They are over the Rosedale fire now.


They were activated for little river but weren't used.... Fire was pretty much out before dark so they were sent home
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#1484115 - 04/01/2019 22:22 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Just paged out

GRASS FIRE JUMPED ROAD 1519 ROSEDALE-LONGFORD RD ROSEDALE
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#1484117 - 04/01/2019 22:24 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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I can't believe the pilots fly so low with such big aircraft..... amazes me! Some good videos starting to surface on social media of the LATs at work
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