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#1468814 - 14/08/2018 19:51 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion
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I know its early but may as well get this underway considering we had our first fire of significance last weekend near Marlo in the states SE which was at Watch and Act Level and I like to have these threads as a bit of as a way to document the season and look back on.

Here is a photo from this fire today, concern is that it is burning in area's of peat which without heavy rain may cause issues later in the season when things really heat up.



Ref Delwp/FFM Gippsland
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#1468816 - 14/08/2018 19:58 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Not good signs at all

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#1468825 - 14/08/2018 20:09 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Burning well enough into the wind.

Controlled down wind?

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#1468959 - 16/08/2018 20:58 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Still have to see what Spring brings but for this time of year Victoria sits in the worst position for this time of year since 2008 which of course lead to Black Saturday

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Record-breaking low rainfall in parts of Victoria is forcing the Country Fire Authority (CFA) to bring forward the start of its bushfire season.

The agency has released its bushfire season outlook, and is warning Victorians to prepare for an extreme summer of fires.

For the first time, fire restrictions will be introduced in Gippsland as early as September.

CFA chief officer Steve Warrington said the season looked like it would be the worst in a decade.

"Our primary concern is Gippsland, the north-eastern parts of Victoria as well, the Otways and certainly along the Murray," he said.

"At the moment if we go on the current forecasts, and to some extent it's crystal balling, but the dams are down, the water content in the ground is quite low.

"Large parts of the state have been in a few years of drought now."

Conditions in parts of the state, including East Gippsland, are the worst firefighters have seen since Black Saturday when 173 people died in February 2009.

Fire season to 'start early, finish late'

"For the first time ever we'll introduce restrictions in Gippsland as early as September," he said.

"That will take us right through to potentially April next year, so start early, finish late.

"The conditions for this time of the year are really quite concerning for us, and that's unfortunately already being realised."

Fire authorities are expecting a severe or extreme fire season across much of the country this summer.

Mr Warrington warned that could leave Victoria unable to call on firefighters from interstate for help.

"Our ability to support each other is diminished," he said.

"This year we're planning as if Victorians are predominately going to have to look after ourselves, the support won't necessarily be there as we're used to.

"If it starts early and finishes late, it means fatigue issues for us ‚ÄĒ long campaign, lots of expectation."

Winter bushfires causing concern

About 140 firefighters have been battling a blaze burning at Cape Conran, in the state's east, since Saturday.

It is one of more than a dozen burn-offs that have escaped from private properties this month.

Victoria's Department of Environment Land Water and Planning incident controller Ben Rankin said the conditions were drier and more volatile than normal.

"This is most unusual to have fires run to this extent in winter," he said.

"The fuel and the countryside in East Gippsland at the moment is excessively dry."

Mr Rankin said the ground was drier now than it usually would be in summer.



Rainfall totals are at record lows in part of East Gippsland, and combined with the early fire season landholders are growing concerned.

Josh Puglisi's Cape Conran property is adjacent to the fire.

"We have a dam in our front yard and that was dug probably 12 years ago and it's been full every year," he said.

"This is the first year it's got virtually no water in it.

"We've got fire pumps on our dam, but we've got no water to pump.

"Everyone's talking about how dry it is, everybody from farmers to some old retired couples who live in this area."

The nearby Snowy River Campus School for Student Leadership is tucked away on a grass field surrounded by forest near Marlo.

Principal Robyn Francis said the school's fire equipment had been set up earlier than ever before.

The school has five water tanks for firefighting, a backup generator, and a deluge system to spray water over the school buildings if a fire threatens.

"We usually have it in terms one and four, it's always up in those terms. This is the first time we've set it up in term three," Ms Francis said.


If we don't see much rain in Spring Victoria will be a tinder box in a couple of months time
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#1468960 - 16/08/2018 21:02 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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The whole eastern seaboard will be a tinder box.Could be unprecedented.

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#1469364 - 23/08/2018 12:44 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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"The Chief Officer has approved the declaration of the Fire Danger Period for District 11 to commence 0100hrs on Monday 10th September"

D11 is East Gippsland - this marks the earliest fire danger period declaration for any reason in state history.
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#1469372 - 23/08/2018 18:26 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Maffra is D9 Logansi?

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#1469378 - 23/08/2018 19:36 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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I would assume 10, wouldn't be surprised if 9 and 10 are planned at the same time, although at this time 11 is the only one I have seen confirmation for - this was a message sent to d11 members
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#1469405 - 24/08/2018 10:44 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Yep 10. But I heard this morning that Wellington Shire Council might declare restrictions for this area anyhow.

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#1469415 - 24/08/2018 15:56 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Heard 10 & 11 to be declared 10th Sept.

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#1469455 - 25/08/2018 12:08 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Yep, confirmed today by CFA

This marks the first time any district has been declared earlier than October 1st - which was a record set last year
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#1470769 - 15/09/2018 11:53 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Rapidly developing fire at Bonang in plantation, request for support and as many trucks as possible, 2 forestry fire fighters injured and going to hospital. Fire can be seen on latest bom satellite - meanwhile it might be snowing up there later today.


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#1470772 - 15/09/2018 12:05 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Thatís rediculous logansi lol
And your right later on today it could be snowing
On top of the fire??🤔🤔🤷‍♂️

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#1470778 - 15/09/2018 13:10 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Yeah, aircraft being responded now but are coming from Ballarat so 3 hours aways
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#1470781 - 15/09/2018 13:30 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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This Watch & Act message is being issued for Bendoc, Bonang, Cabanandra, Dellicknora, Tubbut.

There is a bushfire at Tubbut that is not yet under control.
Firefighters have been unable to stop the fire preading.
Enact your fire plan. The current weather conditions are making the fire difficult to control. Conditions may change and get worse very quickly.
What you should do:
If you leave remember to take your pets, mobile phone and medications.
If travel to the home of family or friends that are away from the warning area.
Keep the roads clear so emergency services can respond.
If you are away from home do not return.
Monitor conditions for changes in the situation.
Current weather conditions may bring down branches and trees
Impacts in your area:
Bushfires can spread quickly and are extremely dangerous.
Trees can fall across roads and cause dangerous driving conditions.
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#1471850 - 02/10/2018 16:38 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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The First Grassland Curing Map for the year.

The Mallee seems to have a head start on drying out

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#1471896 - 02/10/2018 22:52 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Hi guys.
Newcomer to this forum, very interesting.
I believe this Summer will be kind of bad for fires in various parts of the state.
Looks like parts of Gippsland are drying out quickly too.
Have read in this seasons bushfire hazard Report by CRC that a lot of Gippsland & the Eastern part of Melbourne are the most at risk of fires this summer.
Has certainly been very dry lately alright.

I have had a keen interest in weather events for a long time, and also enjoy monitoring the emergency services, radio & EAS.
Cheers..

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#1471913 - 03/10/2018 07:49 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Welcome Spectreman, pls join in smile

Certainly dry with bushfires burning somewhat well and
quite unseasonably given we are just coming out of Winter.

One fire 41km N/W of Dargo has attracted seven response
vehicles, it's being taken seriously!

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#1474788 - 28/10/2018 13:21 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Bit of a fire going up at Talbotville in the ranges, aircraft which were doing a training day at Latrobe have been deployed for a bit of real world action.
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#1474894 - 29/10/2018 20:09 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Grass really starting to dry out now with most regions seeing some stage of curing, heat this week likely to result in significant curing this week

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#1474950 - 31/10/2018 14:46 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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TFB for the mallee tomorrow
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#1474970 - 31/10/2018 18:38 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Here we go.....

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#1474982 - 31/10/2018 20:59 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Very Hot air-mass and dry winds until isolated thundery showers Friday and Monday.

Lighting is worry if Virga Thunderstorms case grass-fires.

Then Melbourne Cup isolated showers with clean SW winds.


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#1474987 - 31/10/2018 22:44 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Number of aircraft online for the next few days.

Also Night Aerial firefighting training is occurring tonight, this year we will see 2 aircraft able to work at night on direct attack for the first time anywhere in the world.

These aircraft will be based at Mangalore and Colac and will only fight fires which have been worked on during the day giving crews time to survey the area in daylight first.


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#1475132 - 02/11/2018 15:56 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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2 Fires in the Murray Sunset national park going well 8 aircraft responding
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#1475176 - 02/11/2018 20:54 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Little update, now 3 fires in the Murray Sunset

Mallee 51 - MSNP - Pheenys Track - 391ha
Mallee 50 - MSNP - Millewa South - 817ha
Mallee 52 - MSNP - Minook Wild - 5ha

All are listed as not yet under control, interestingly they were started by lightning around 7am but didn't flare until round 2pm, they had aircaft check the area in the morning but nothing was found at that time.

Currently 6 aircraft are attached to these fires with 2 more to head up tomorrow.


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#1475191 - 02/11/2018 23:11 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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That will give the PFFs some overtime this week
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#1476070 - 18/11/2018 16:05 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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This Watch & Act message is for Carlisle River.

This Watch and Act replaces the Advice message issued at 3:00pm.
There is a grassfire at Carlisle River that is not yet under control.
This grassfire is difficult to access and emergency services are on scene
Staying close to a building you can shelter in is the safest option as conditions can change suddenly.
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#1477299 - 27/11/2018 19:26 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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seeing as our fire season is having some time off, QLD has 3 Emergency warnings at the moment and 3 Advice Warnings. I don't know if we have already sent crews up already but my station has been asking for a show of hands should we be called upon.

I also saw the 737 fire bomber had filed for a flight plan to Rocky a day or two ago. I hope it has stayed up there.
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#1477478 - 28/11/2018 09:32 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Yep not good up there, think we are sending up from crews tomorrow.

Large increase in state airfleet today with most of the fleet active from today including the skycrane based out of Essendon.

Also big training day in Colac today for aircraft so if anyone is in the area you may see fire bombers and choppers flying around.


Edited by logansi (28/11/2018 09:41)
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#1478035 - 01/12/2018 18:22 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Skycrane heading down the Forrest drive Mount Martha, first deployment for the crane this year. Fire is small but inaccessible currently make tankers 10 slip-ons 5
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#1478067 - 02/12/2018 07:11 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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A GC of interest to you Logansi, on the eastern end of the SNOWY RANGE east/west airstrip (N of Licola for those not familiar with area)

Some of the strikes currently to the east of rainfall will hopefully get mopped up as the front travels to the east, fingers crossed on that one!

3mm in Sale and steady rain atm.

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#1478119 - 02/12/2018 11:08 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Looks like most areas probably got enough rain to prevent anything from starting, aircraft are up checking the Mallee area at the moment, recce planned for Gippsland/North East this afternoon, highest risk of anything prop in the NE as totals look less up that way.

Always the risk something will pop up over the next few days as it warms up and drys up with a tree still smouldering.
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#1478629 - 06/12/2018 15:01 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Tomorrow, Fri, 7 Dec 2018 has been declared a day of Total Fire Ban in the Mallee, Wimmera and Northern Country district(s) of Victoria.


Meanwhile escalating fire at Devonshire Rd, Buninyong request for make tankers 10, 2 Strike Teams, Emergency Warning and Air support more than 1

Update: Major Spotting up to 1km, make strike teams atleast 4, numerous homes under threat, request large air tankers.

This Emergency Warning is being issued for Buninyong, Scotsburn.

There is a bushfire in the vicinity of Devonshire Rd and Nashs Rd Buninyong that is out of control.
The bushfire is travelling in a southerly direction towards Brennans Rd.
This fire is threatening homes and lives.
This message is for you if you are at south of Devonshire Rd.


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#1478630 - 06/12/2018 15:19 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Visible on Radar

Now Make Strike teams 6



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#1478634 - 06/12/2018 15:49 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Now Make Strike Teams 10 on above, thats 50 trucks.
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#1478636 - 06/12/2018 15:55 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Bit early in the season for fire like this!! Not good
Logansi. Be a fair nor wester blowing out that way to??
One would expect it to be worse conditions Tommoz as
Well?

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#1478637 - 06/12/2018 15:59 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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There is now 2 emergency warnings and a watch and
Act out for south of the fire!! Fire apparently spotting 2k
In front of itself

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#1478639 - 06/12/2018 16:10 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Out-of-control bushfire burning near Ballarat, Victoria.

ANSWER is how did fire started by careless people.

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#1478641 - 06/12/2018 16:58 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Fire near Ballarat really visible via radar
Image.

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#1478642 - 06/12/2018 17:06 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Bushed areas seem very dry from areas i've seen across the west both flying and on the ground. Its been a dry year and practically no major rain fall events, say 30mm+ which have the biggest impact of how 'wet' the bush is.

Awesome to see our Large Air Tankers in action









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#1478657 - 06/12/2018 18:41 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Talk that Night fire fightning helicopter will be deployed to this fire, even if not needed fire will be used for training. May well be the first fire in Australia to fire bombed at night.
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#1478712 - 07/12/2018 11:53 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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BULBAN RD LITTLE RIVER just went make tankers 20 I think, only just got the radio up but looks like 20 paged.

Further, fire has jumped BULBAN RD LITTLE RIVER, make tankrs 40 at least, fire running very hard toward little river township, request emergency warning and text to people in area, spotting and request multiple aircraft including large air tankers if available.

Fire to impact Geelong line, request line closure.


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#1478714 - 07/12/2018 12:18 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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It is strongly recommended that you Evacuate Now if you are located in Mambourin, Manor.

There is a bushfire at LittleRiver that is not yet under control
This fire is travelling in a south-easterly direction towards Manor Road.
If you are located in Mambourin or Manor you should evacuate now.
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#1478719 - 07/12/2018 13:10 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Why, fires had to be on Hot Day seem odd than any other day. I am sick of media don't say how and why fires started.

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#1478723 - 07/12/2018 14:49 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: chasers addict]
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Originally Posted By: chasers addict
Why, fires had to be on Hot Day seem odd than any other day. I am sick of media don't say how and why fires started.


Being treated as suspicious

Little River fire downgraded to Watch and Act

This Watch & Act message is for Mambourin, Manor.

There is a grassfire at LittleRiver that is not yet under control.
Firefighters have been able to stop the spread of the fire, but the fire remains active within fire boundaries
This Watch and Act replaces the previous evacuation notice.





Fire is well over 1000ha

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#1478724 - 07/12/2018 15:08 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Just had a listen to the scanner archive for the start of the fire in little river, original fire involved 3 separate fires which joined, Little River tanker was on scene within 8 mins of the 000 call requesting 40 tankers and fire was already 800m long on multiple fronts. Fire had moved from Kirks Bridge Road, crossed Edgars road and was about to cross Bulbans Rd.

Also quite an extrodany call from Little River Captain, sounds like they almost had it held at Bulbans Rd radio but in the middle of a road call they discovered it had jumped the road behind them, knew they had lost it at that point.


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#1478824 - 08/12/2018 17:36 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Numerous fires starting North of Bairnsdale and twds Orbost and Cann River, large amount of lightning in area, aircraft up working multiple fires and others doing recce's. 8 Fires at current count.
The is some rain with these storms (7mm at Orbost) but lightning is occurring outside the rain core.


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#1478848 - 08/12/2018 20:25 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Registered: 17/11/2014
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Loc: Portland, Southwest - Victoria
First time i've seen a district wide warning:

This message is being issued for East Gippsland East of the Snowy River.

There has been a band of lightening move across East Gippsland and a number of bushfires have been ignited. Individual messages are not being created due to the number of reports.
Firefighters are currently responding and dealing with each report.
Smoke may be visible from nearby communities and roads.
There is no immediate threat to the community and no action is required.
This message was issued



Now 16 separate fires
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#1478894 - 09/12/2018 08:53 Re: 2018/19 Fire Season Update and Discussion [Re: logansi]
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Registered: 16/11/2014
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Loc: Sale, Central Gippsland, S/E V...
Certainly a good backstop with the forecast
looking wet into next week.

A quick squiz at the BOM forecast for next week
@ Buchan, indicates plenty of overcast and showery
although 31C Wed. is a bit hot.

Low wind speed also seemed to be the trend at this
stage, hoping all goes OK before some decent rain
assists.

Similiar f'cast for Combienbar although both areas
have further thunderstorm activity Thur/Fri/Sat.




Edited by samboz (09/12/2018 08:57)

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