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#1501399 - 30/06/2019 01:21 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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... in the absence of relevant system comment, it's raining. a lot. and it's cold. and it sounds great on the roof. and a major change it seems. regardless of strategic bluster, can anyone focus on this system? any reports ...
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#1501403 - 30/06/2019 08:13 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Yes I have a report. There was not a drop of rain here and wind for just 2 hours before it dropped back to nothing. Currently it's 9°C, calm and cloudy. If I wasn't following the weather, I would not even be able to tell that a cold front went through last night.

I can see why people are focusing ahead, this one really isn't a system for coastal areas.


Edited by Wave Rider (30/06/2019 08:16)
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#1501405 - 30/06/2019 08:37 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Some respectable snow showers overnight here—finally, an inland event.

To buggery with coastal codswallop events.
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#1501420 - 30/06/2019 17:01 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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We here in the ‘Gong finish June average for rain and colder for mins and max temps.

Albion Park finished warmer in mins, average in max and drier rainfall.

Kiama finished dead on average for everyThing.

Nowra finished cooler in mins warmer in max and above average for rain.

Now watch the BoM turn that into ‘warmer drier’ 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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#1501427 - 30/06/2019 17:52 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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I'm not surprised June was below average for temps, it certainly did feel like a cold month.

Well chances are July and August will be warm and dry so BoM will probably be right as winter is combined as a whole.
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#1501428 - 30/06/2019 18:05 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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To me it looks to have been an average month, not above or below for temps.


Edited by CoastalStorm22 (30/06/2019 18:05)
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#1501434 - 30/06/2019 19:21 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Minima was far below average here, and slightly below in maxima.
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#1501439 - 30/06/2019 20:36 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Sydney June stats:

Sydney OH: 10.0 - 18.5, slightly above average (+0.2, +0.5 wrt 1981-2010 averages). Rainfall 171 mm, 146% of average.

Bankstown: 7.3 - 18.5, slightly above average (+0.5, +0.7 wrt 1969-2018 averages). Rainfall 63.6 mm, 79% of the average.


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#1501442 - 30/06/2019 20:58 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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I wonder when the BoM will tweak ACCESS, it’s been rubbish lately. Off with the fairies.

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#1501446 - 30/06/2019 21:32 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Adaminaby Angler]
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Originally Posted By: Adaminaby Angler
Minima was far below average here, and slightly below in maxima.


So far as I can see the only sites in your area to record any below average minima for June were Cooma AP at 1.3C below normal and Khancoban at 1.4C below, hardly FAR below average. Both came in just about bang on average for maxima. Thredbo Top and Perisher Valley came out 0.6C and 1.1C above average for maxima and again near bang on average for minima. Of course I understand you may have recorded what would appear to be abnormally cold nights at your house or something but given what I’ve pointed out that appears unlikely to be a large departure from the long term average.

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#1501455 - 01/07/2019 07:03 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Eigerwand]
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Originally Posted By: Eigerwand
So far as I can see the only sites in your area to record any below average minima for June were Cooma AP at 1.3C below normal and Khancoban at 1.4C below, hardly FAR below average. Both came in just about bang on average for maxima. Thredbo Top and Perisher Valley came out 0.6C and 1.1C above average for maxima and again near bang on average for minima. Of course I understand you may have recorded what would appear to be abnormally cold nights at your house or something but given what I’ve pointed out that appears unlikely to be a large departure from the long term average.

Well, it was a –3.8° C average minima where I am (recorded on the Kestrel 5500); consistently below –5° C in minima here, and very little minima that actually climbed above freezing. Maxima was hindered by the frequent fog this month, too. Especially for how stable June is (when it usually averages –2° C or warmer), –3.8° C is nothing for to scoff at.

Remember, mate: this is Australia, not North America. Our winters are very stable by comparison to the continental climates of North America, Northern-Central Eurasia, and so forth. Compared to, say, the 1960's, the local climate around here is definitely getting more continental and "extreme"; the difference between summer and winter is now much greater, with –10° C readings becoming ever the more common.
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#1501458 - 01/07/2019 07:22 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Here's a lesson on climatology for ya, Eigerwand: North American-like winter anomalies are simply not possible in Australia, due to the lack of any poleward landmass for to allow raw cold to cross into the main continent; we have only a great Southern Ocean straddling between us and the Antarctic.
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#1501461 - 01/07/2019 08:08 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Adaminaby Angler]
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Definitely, the continental climates can deviate much more from their average due to having no ocean buffer. February 2019 had average monthly temperatures about 15°C below average in some towns across western Canada and northwestern USA. That would never occur here. Likewise, some months, e.g. May 1934 or March 2012 were over 10°C above average in parts of the Midwest USA.

In Australia a monthly mean that deviates even by 3°C is significant, whereas in the continental climates it's normal.

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#1501464 - 01/07/2019 09:31 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Adaminaby Angler]
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Originally Posted By: Adaminaby Angler
Here's a lesson on climatology for ya, Eigerwand: North American-like winter anomalies are simply not possible in Australia, due to the lack of any poleward landmass for to allow raw cold to cross into the main continent; we have only a great Southern Ocean straddling between us and the Antarctic.


Not to mention more long wave troughs that snake. Whether this is a direct result of the Northern hemisphere land masses or not I do not know. However it leads to the 'polar vortex' type scenarios. Which is why you can get snow in Colorado in June, while parts of Siberia are pushing mid 30C's.
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#1501467 - 01/07/2019 10:43 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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-1 Here this morning usual winter frost.
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#1501468 - 01/07/2019 11:16 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Adaminaby Angler]
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Originally Posted By: Adaminaby Angler
Originally Posted By: Eigerwand
So far as I can see the only sites in your area to record any below average minima for June were Cooma AP at 1.3C below normal and Khancoban at 1.4C below, hardly FAR below average. Both came in just about bang on average for maxima. Thredbo Top and Perisher Valley came out 0.6C and 1.1C above average for maxima and again near bang on average for minima. Of course I understand you may have recorded what would appear to be abnormally cold nights at your house or something but given what I’ve pointed out that appears unlikely to be a large departure from the long term average.

Well, it was a –3.8° C average minima where I am (recorded on the Kestrel 5500); consistently below –5° C in minima here, and very little minima that actually climbed above freezing. Maxima was hindered by the frequent fog this month, too. Especially for how stable June is (when it usually averages –2° C or warmer), –3.8° C is nothing for to scoff at.

Remember, mate: this is Australia, not North America. Our winters are very stable by comparison to the continental climates of North America, Northern-Central Eurasia, and so forth. Compared to, say, the 1960's, the local climate around here is definitely getting more continental and "extreme"; the difference between summer and winter is now much greater, with –10° C readings becoming ever the more common.


What period are your averages over? Depending on your topographic situation, I wouldn't have thought -3.8 would be that far below a long-term average for a site at 1290m. (That said, in southern inland NSW, maximum temperatures show a strong recent warming trend, but minimum temperatures not much of one).

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#1501469 - 01/07/2019 11:18 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: ozthunder]
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Originally Posted By: ozthunder
Originally Posted By: Adaminaby Angler
Here's a lesson on climatology for ya, Eigerwand: North American-like winter anomalies are simply not possible in Australia, due to the lack of any poleward landmass for to allow raw cold to cross into the main continent; we have only a great Southern Ocean straddling between us and the Antarctic.


Not to mention more long wave troughs that snake. Whether this is a direct result of the Northern hemisphere land masses or not I do not know. However it leads to the 'polar vortex' type scenarios. Which is why you can get snow in Colorado in June, while parts of Siberia are pushing mid 30C's.


The elevation has a fair bit to do with the occasional out-of-season snowfalls in Colorado, too - Denver's at 1600m and plenty of the peaks are well into the 3000s. Denver (which is heavily rainshadowed in winter) actually gets more snow in spring and autumn than it does in winter.

On the eastern slopes of the Rockies, Calgary has had significant snow in every month of the year, and Denver in every month except July and August.

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#1501480 - 01/07/2019 13:47 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Blair Trewin]
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Originally Posted By: Blair Trewin
What period are your averages over? Depending on your topographic situation, I wouldn't have thought -3.8 would be that far below a long-term average for a site at 1290m. (That said, in southern inland NSW, maximum temperatures show a strong recent warming trend, but minimum temperatures not much of one).

Not a very fixed period (lots of gaps, especially when absent) since I've begun recording in 1976—there is also an AWS at Tantangara Reservoir, operated by Snowy Hydro at 1,239 m AMSL; 35° 48' 17.27" S. However, your statement about –3.8° C not being a particularly cold minimal average for June at this elevation, was a tad absurd; Thredbo Village (100 m higher than me at 1,380 m AMSL), has an average long-term June minimum of approximately –2° C. As for my climate record, –1.7° C appears to be the long-term average (colder nowadays); thereby, –3.8° C is certainly a big deal by Aussie winter standards. Contraryise, summer temperatures have definitely picked up (within this narrow period), hence rendering the climate more continental nowadays.

The topography where I am is gently undulating, but nonethless relatively flat tableland (that is to say, compared to the escarpments), whereas Thredbo's topography is more valley-like in nature. Thredbo Village is also subject to frequent winds blowing off the crests of the Ramsheads, which plainly hinder its plummeting ability during inversions at times—it only reached –9° C this month, whereas I reached –11° C.

Kiandra is a different story altogether, but much to my misfortune, records halted in 1974—and temperature extremes didn't register until 1957, thereby mitigating the records. As for your "recent warming maxima in Southern Inland NSW" statement...Wagga Kooringal and Deniliquin V.I. Centre will sorely disagree with you there, unless of course "recent" means "from 1950 to now", i.e. cunningly ignoring the brutally hot <1930's period, much of which was post-Stevenson. Here's a tip: compare Wagga Kooringal (1871-1985) with Wagga AMO (current station [>1941]), and bear in mind that Kooringal was even higher in altitude; not only are the averages for Kooringal markedly higher (even in the post-Stevenson era), but also the fact that it recorded 47.2° C on both February 1897 and January 1939—both of which mercilessly thrash the mere 45.2° C at Wagga AMO in January 2019 and February 2009.
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#1501496 - 01/07/2019 18:13 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Interestingly we've only had our first negative temperature here reaching -0.2 degrees this morning. Which is in a way good avoiding the strong frosts of last year which were nice. I think about May last year was the negative temperature. Today was absolutely beautiful winter day reaching a delightful 17.3 degrees barely any wind and blue skies, hopefully our winter is more like this with rain coming in as well.
I dread the 'strong' westerly season just throws everything about. I say 'strong' because it's a matter of perspective and Sydney is quite protected. grin


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#1501501 - 01/07/2019 19:00 Re: NSW Day to Day Weather - January to July 2019 [Re: Seabreeze]
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