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#202735 - 20/06/2003 15:41 Re: AFL 2003
Kirk Offline
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Yer big "Buzz" Fewster is a gain for the WA side.
Looking forward to the game, Should be a cloudy day with fresh N'ly winds with temps between 20-23

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#202736 - 21/06/2003 21:05 Re: AFL 2003
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What a spanking! 60points of it. The game was a real tough tussle in the first half with both sides pretty much 50/50 but after half time we just started our running game and smashed them to bits thru the middle. Backwell was awesome, crows draft him now please! Just about every player played well altho Cooper wasnt given any game time hardly. I was worried early with Ambrose's big marks down back but Chambers got the better of him in the end.

Heres my 321 for both teams:

SA:

3) Backwell
2) Hopwood
1) Arnott

Others who did well were Sampson, Steinberner, Gowans twins, Healy and Thomas.

WA)

3) Webster
2) Cowell
1) Bootsma

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#202737 - 21/06/2003 22:35 Re: AFL 2003
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Oh, it's a shame the game wasn't close.
When I left for work, it was SA- 25, WA- 20 and thinking it was a pretty even game.

Anyway, despite all this there is one state that is a class above the rest when it comes to football- the big V laugh

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#202738 - 21/06/2003 22:38 Re: AFL 2003
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LOL Big V, altho u beat us last year, we hammered you twice b4 that smile

Cant wait to play yous next year smile

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#202739 - 22/06/2003 19:54 Re: AFL 2003
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Yes the WA side played very poorly for just about the entire match, it was hard to describe how they played at time. However, it might explain itself better as the side had only trained as a side for a week, compared to the SA side who had trained together as a team for 6 weeks. Once again the best of the WAFL will have to play the best of tassie or QLD, which no doubt we will beat by 15-20 goals and we will be back in the same situation in 2 years time.......

Anyway back to the AFL. Great round coming up. Big test for the crows this week, if they can't win this week then making the top 4 will be almost out of reach I think. Other highlights will be the eagles and roos, Port and Sydney and Freo and the hawks

An interesting week is ahead

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#202740 - 22/06/2003 20:58 Re: AFL 2003
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Actually WA play VIC again next year and SA has the year off.

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#202741 - 22/06/2003 21:11 Re: AFL 2003
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Ahh ok,

Its a rotation policy then. Thats good!!
I have a fealing it was that, but wasn't sure.

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#202742 - 23/06/2003 21:22 Re: AFL 2003
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Thank god that weekend of no REAL football is over, I think a split round is a much better idea.

A look at up-coming Round 13:

Essendon V Geelong- Friday @ TD (N)
This match is pretty irrelevant really. I know it's still 'early', but the Dons or Geelong will not make the finals, so this match will probably lack the usual Friday Night atmosphere.
I think we (Essendon) will win though, should be a bit of a tussle but I think at full strength (apart from Rioli, who is out suspended) and the inclusions of Hird and the debut of young gun and Tim's son, Jobe Watson we should get over the line. If the Dons can contain Kent Kingsley at full forward, and stop Ablett Jnr. they will be well on their way to winning comfortably. Bombers by 30.

Melbourne V St. Kilda- Saturday @ MCG
*Yawn* Melbourne really are a very poor excuse for an AFL team at the moment. Oh well, next year is an 'even' year again they will return to being competetive. I'm not convinced yet about St Kilda, I don't think they are the real deal yet at 6-6 (despite beating Brisbane). I think Neitz will want to make up for the Casino 'incident' in which he really embarressed the Melbourne Football Club. Neitz to play well, and Dees in an upset by 18.

Port Adelaide V Sydney- Saturday @ AAMI
Two sides in terrific form sitting in the top 4, what more could you ask for? Port Adelaide at home will be too strong though, Sydney might get close but definate home ground advantage here. Port by 26.

Western Bulldogs V Collingwood- Saturday @ TD (N)
The Dogs embarressed Collingwood by 7 goals last year in Round 22, before the Pies took part in a memorable finals series. The Dogs will try hard and probably stay close all night, but Collingwood look a bit too strong for a side sitting 16th and not having won since Round 1. Collingwood by 22.

Brisbane Lions V Richmond- Saturday @ Gabba (N)
Will Brisbane lose 3 in a row? No way!- especially not to Richmond. Brisbane, despite being thumped at the Gabba last week will be way to strong at home for the Tigers who are on a downward spiral, after a grand start to the year.
Brisbane by 50.

Hawthorn V Fremantle- Sunday @ York Park
We all know how hopeless Fremantle have been on the road in recent years, but last year after being in the lead for most of the day in Tasmania against Hawthorn went down by 1 point due to a flukish Hawk goal in the last 30 seconds. Hawthorn have gotten back on their feet after a miserable 4 weeks, and their record at York Park is good with a 2 point win over flag contenders West Coast earlier in the year. Fremantle are flying at 8-4 and WILL play in their first ever finals series.
I just think Hawthorn will be a tad too strong though in Tasmania, but wouldn't be surprised the slightest if the Dockers got up. Hawthorn by 8.

West Coast V Kangaroos- Sunday @ Crazy Johns Stadium
The Kangaroos apparently win games on 'spirit'. Well their spirit better travel with them on planes, because they are going to need every ounce of it if they are to have any hope here. The Eagles are now being touted 'premiership contenders' and deservably so after thrashing the Lions at the Gabba. The Roos were lucky in their win over the Dons, and that's putting it mildly.
The Roos to crash back to earth with a thud. Eagles by 56.

Carlton V Adelaide- Sunday @ Optus Oval
Adelaide humiliated Carlton here last year, and while the game might be a bit closer this year Adelaide, with a number of star players returning from injuries should win this comfortably. Adelaide by 38.

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#202743 - 24/06/2003 16:45 Re: AFL 2003
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Interesting week ahead, some high quality games are on offer.

Ill do my usual SA teams.

Port V Sydney:

Game of the round possibly, both teams in great form, Port havign slection problems with Dew and primus to coem back. I reckon and it is being talked about that both should have a run in the sanfl first. Port's midfield has been excellent and i feel even tho sydneys has also been very solid, i reckon Port should slayn them there in the end, espec with home ground advantage. Still the lead could switch in the first half b4 port settle and win it.

Verdict - Port by 28

Carlton V Adelaide

Not exactly match of the round, but the crows are gaining several key players back which should help a lot. Stevens, Bode, Clarke, Burns and maybe Carey will really help the teams experience and goalkicking power and if they are all switched on it could be nasty for the blues. however, carlton have Pagan as a coach and he performs well against crows. U never know with him and we dont have the worlds best record at optus oval.

Verdict - Crows by 50

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#202744 - 26/06/2003 12:49 Re: AFL 2003
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Outlook for the West.

Fremantle vs Hawks.

The game is being played down there in tassie, were we got beaten by a kick last year. However, back then it was a fine day, this time rain is expected. Fremantle almost has a full list to pick from with the inclusions of Farmer, Headland, Parker, Hayden, Mcpharlin and maybe Clive Waterhouse. Dion woods is expected to miss the game with the loss of his father last weekened. As rain is expected and a MAX of 10 that certainly does not suit fremantles game plan. With the possible talent coming back this week fremantle are certainly good enough. But the hawks have been in some good form and the weather will suit them I think.one thing I find amussing in the match preview of the fremantle and Hawks game. It states that Jeff farmer and Roger Hayden are two weeks away, I am not sure were they got this info from but its wrong. Farmer has a 99% chance of playing and Hayden about a 98% chance..
Another exclusion for this game will be Matthew car due to suspension who has been in All Australian form this season.

West Coast vs Roos

This will be close!
Injury worries are a major problem at the minute with injuries to 3 Key Players, and the weather is expected to be cold with the odd shower. Not sure if the rain will affect the match but the ground will be wet and the ball will be greasy, this suits the roos. Alot think this game is a for gone conclusion, I don't think so. Phil Matera is likely to miss again which would be handy with the ball on the deck. After thumping the lions 2 weeks ago the confidence could not be higher, but this is a huge danger game and must win this if they want a top 2 birth, likewise for the roos they must win this to keep in touch with the top 6


Verdict:

Hawthorn by 23 points
West Coast by 5 points

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#202745 - 30/06/2003 11:06 Re: AFL 2003
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Well results this weekend panned out as expected, apart from Melbourne thumping the over-rated St. Kilda.

The game at Subiaco was closer than I expected, but I think the terrible conditions helped the Roos a lot and helped contain West Coast's running game. (I doubt if it was sunny and in the 20's the result would have been 9 points).

Carlton were very ordinary against Adelaide at Optus Oval, Adelaide have jumped into the top 4 now with a healthy percentage. (In my opinion, the top 4 as it is now- Port, Lions, WCE & Crows will all be there in similar order at the end of the season).

The conditions in Launceston certainly didn't help Fremantle. Hawthorn are on a 3-game winning streak now and with a game against the Dogs next week looking a 'possible' finals contender.

The surprise packets of the year, Dockers and Swans both had very bad losses this weekend.

And Brisbane were always going to beat Richmond.

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#202746 - 30/06/2003 15:09 Re: AFL 2003
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I was furious at not tipping the hawks, I always tip them down at York Park, something just made me pick freo...gah never again mad

Good tough hard win by the crows yesterday, starting to look good now, Carey was great, Macca was excellent and Burton had 30 kicks eek not bad at all. Johncock also played a good game kicking 5 goals.

Nothing will stop Port now...they are looking pretty strong atm.

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#202747 - 30/06/2003 15:20 Re: AFL 2003
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Before Port win the flag...
Can someone over there in Adelaide make them change their pathetic excuse for a 'theme song'?

URGH- IT'S HIDEOUS!!! :rolleyes: :p laugh

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#202748 - 30/06/2003 15:29 Re: AFL 2003
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There song goes “well never stop stop stop till were top top top…”

If you remember last year, in the last round they finally managed to finish top of the ladder and true to their song they stopped stopped stopped the week after to Collingswood and crashed out of the finals (AGAIN) shortly after!

Now that they are top again.... lets watch them STOP STOP STOP!

Port are a great minor round team but a pathetic finals team and that's where it counts!

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#202749 - 30/06/2003 15:42 Re: AFL 2003
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Unfortunately, we have the massive honour mad of the only team Port have beaten in a finals game (by 23 points in the Semi in Adelaide last year, when we basically had half our team playing and being 2 goals in front at half time we still lost).

Something tells me though, lightning won't strike 3 times in September for Port.
I've got a feeling it will be a Port Vs Crows Qualifying Final- that would be fantastic for Adelaide.

Whoever made up the current Port theme song deserves to be shot, it really is terrible.

Also, it appears Chris Tarrant could come under a bit of scrutiny this week after 'alledgedly' racially abusing goal umpire Jason Venkataya (Indian origin) calling him a 'black ****' ... I'm sure you can figure out the **** for yourself. The goal umpire has apparently lodged an official complaint.

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#202750 - 01/07/2003 13:26 Re: AFL 2003
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Round 14 promises to be one of the best of the season, with some great games on the agenda.

St. Kilda V Essendon- Friday Night @ TD
Both sides sit at 6-7, with Essendon having the superior percentage and sitting in 9th, compared with the Saints 12th. St. Kilda were highly dissapointing in their big loss to Melbourne, if they wish to be respected by the compotition those are the games that they must win easily. Essendon got back on the winners list with a comfortable win against Geelong, without really raising a sweat. Essendon won the corresponding game last year by 99 points, but expect the margin to be a lot less this year as the Saints have on the whole, improved. However- Essendon at full strength at the Dome is always dangerous, Dons to win by 32 points.

Fremantle V Brisbane- Saturday @ Subiaco
This game will be fantastic. If it was at the Gabba, the Lions would be easy winners, but at Subiaco it gives the game a whole new exciting outlook. Fremantle are always so much more dangerous at home, and while Brisbane usually are one of the better travelling teams, they will struggle here in this long roadtrip. They were big losers at Subiaco last year against the West Coast. Fremantle- too good at home and will win a tight one by 8 points.

Hawthorn V Bulldogs- Saturday @ MCG
The Hawks have won 3 in a row, and have gone from 14th to 11th. And well, the Dogs have been stuck at the bottom all year and will probably finish there too. Hawthorn were ‘good’ in the wet, but that’s about it. The Dogs only lost the game in the 1st quarter against Collingwood, and matched it with them from there on. This game will be no pushover for the Hawks, but they should win by 12 points to make it 4 in a row and possibly secure Peter Schwab’s coaching position for 2004.

Kangaroos V Collingwood- Saturday Night @ TD
It’s a shame that the Kangaroos are coming off a gruelling Subiaco roadtrip, because if they wern't I’d probably tip them here. The conditions helped the margin looked a bit more respectable for the Roos, while Collingwood won by 7 goals against eventual wooden spooners Dogs. Dean Laidley will have the inside scoop into most the Pies players, after being Assistant Coach there for 3 years, but Collingwood to send their supporters into a mad frenzy when they win by 18 points and move into 6th spot and have the title ‘Best Victorian Team’. Statistics lie, don’t they?

Adelaide V Richmond- Saturday Night @ AAMI
Richmond wouldn’t beat Adelaide’s 2nds team at the moment, let alone their senior team. While they wern’t disgraced in Brisbane (for the first half anyway), they are the Victoria’s laughing stock at the moment after going from 6-2 to 6-7 in 5 weeks. Adelaide, deservably now back in the top 4 have too much class around the ground, especially at AAMI Stadium and they will win by 38 points.

Sydney V West Coast- Sunday @ SCG
Sydney are still a very good side, don’t you worry about that- not many teams will go to Adelaide and beat Port over there (except maybe for finals time!). West Coast are flying sitting in 2nd, but despite belting the Lions at the Gabba, they have lost to Essendon away, drew with the Bulldogs and struggled to put the Roos away at home in the past 4 weeks. Sydney at home especially, are a very good, speedy, and classy team and will win by 16 points.

Carlton V Melbourne- Sunday @ Optus
Melbourne have won one game out of their last 7, let’s not get too carried away with their win over the Saints. Carlton’s statistics are similar only winning 1 out of their last 7 ... while I am tempted to tip Carlton at Optus, they were ‘horrific’ last week in every sense of the word and Melbourne turned on some of the form that made them a competetive outfit in 2002. Melbourne by 22 points.

Geelong V Port Adelaide- Sunday @ Geelong
If Essendon didn’t have to raise a sweat to beat Geelong, then Port won’t even have to put their footy boots on to beat Geelong. Thank God this game is being played at Skilled Stadium, it may give Geelong the slightest hope of pulling off a highly unlikely victory and keeps some interest in what otherwise will be a highly boring game. Port by 28 points.

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#202751 - 02/07/2003 20:37 Re: AFL 2003
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Heard some rumours lately. One is confirmed, the other is a possibility at the of the year. The confirmed one is that Lawrence Angwin, #7 in the draft in 2000, who was delisted by Adelaide because he liked the 'good life' will be playing this weekend for Carlton, after Scott Freeborn was placed on the long term injury list. Angwin never got on with Ayres, I've heard that once Ayres pushed him up against a locker. Pagan is known to have turn players careers around (just look at Martyn Pike.) Angwins profile has him around 201cm, 93kg.

The other rumour is that Carlton may redraft Brett Backwell, as our problems with crumbers grow larger. Backwell was seen at training some time ago, and said he'd love to be back playing with the blues. He has been starring in the SANFL, but the question is can he perform at the top level. The recruiters at Carlton said they are going to think out of the square because of the draft penalties, and this is one example of that. Backwell is still young, at 21, and he has one of the best coaches around to bring his fitness up.

Also, there could be some interesting developments regarding Essendons salary cap investigation, and those received by Carlton. wink

Rainlover

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#202752 - 02/07/2003 20:51 Re: AFL 2003
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The only 'interesting devolopments' regarding Essendon's salary cap is they will need to delist a couple of poor performed VFL players, like James Davies to re-sign Matthew Lloyd (who won't be going anywhere) and Scott Lucas.

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#202753 - 04/07/2003 14:08 Re: AFL 2003
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My outlook for the west this week.

Fremantle vs Brissy lions

I think the ground may look similar to last week by the finish, strong winds and further heavy showers are expected overnight and most of tomorrow, so it will be a wet weather game. I can't see either team winning by a great lot and it could go either way. I am not sure who the weather will suit. The brisbane players have not played and or trained in the wet that much this year. While fremantle have played 3 games in the wet and have had 2 weeks of training in the rain. Even with the lions resting Lynch it wont matter too much. Last year saw the eagles stop brissy on their tracks by beating them by 8 goals. Betting has brissy close favs for the match because of last weeks terrible loss in tassie they deserve to start slight favourites.

Eagles Vs Sydney

This will be a ripper!!!
In the past the small ground has not suited the eagles but i think this time will be different.
The eagles are really coming together well now and if they can beat one of the best sides going around atm in sydney then they can make claims for a finish in the top 2 on the last day in september. But last week will have takesn alot out of the eagles and the trip to the other side is a long one. Sydney are playing some terrific footy and like the other game it could go either way. I am looking forward to Wirrapunda kicking some torbs out from the kick ins and seeing how far he can kick them. I must say I have a feeling that the eagles will win this but tipping tells me not to tip them in this game. Overall i think that the weather from last week might just be a hurdle on its own, and tipping, sydney just i think

Verdict:

Fremantle and lions: Either team by less than a kick, i really dont know. Flip a coin!

Sydney vs eagles: Sydney by 3 points

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#202754 - 04/07/2003 21:36 Re: AFL 2003
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Ok very hard week of tipping, hardest all year I reckon.

Crows V Tigers:

With this game being played at Footy Park, and the crows having a near full strength side, there are no excuses not to belt the living hell out of a team thats now on a very fast downward spiral. Richmond, however, will be desperate to arrest themselves out of their form slump and will put up a fight. But with Adelaide's midfield class, Mcleod firing and the other, I hoping they will turn it on and kill them but knowing the crows they prolly will dom it in 10minute bursts then gom to sleep.

Verdict - Adelaide by 45

Geelong V Port:

Doesnt matter where this one is played, pretty much 4 points for the power. Cats are not a hardened team atm and play a helluva lot of youth in their youth policy. With port's midfield rotations and deadly forwards, plus the best defence in the league it could be a hammering. Luckily for the cats its not at footy park otherwise theyd be looking at a nasty margin. Still, could be nasty enuff

Verdict - Port by 55

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