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#224258 - 22/07/2008 12:18 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
Instability Offline
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Registered: 02/02/2005
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Loc: Live in Burwood: Work in Notti...
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Originally posted by Dale Small:
Thats a hefty list of craft Rog..
I've heard the Bombardiers are a very resilient aircraft, just seeing the CRJ in your list pricked my ears up somewhat........
I used to work for Ansett and being a big aviation enthusiast, tried to get on every aircraft type that I could. Working with or getting to know the right people gave me some great opportunities, including a private tour of the Airbus A330/340 assembly line in Toulouse, going on the very last passenger flight of a B727-200 in Australia (my favourite aircraft), flying on Ansett's first B747 proving flight (one of the B747-300's that they leased) and on a proving flight for the CRJ to Tassie.

The CRJ-200 was a rocket ship with great airfield performance. A couple of co-workers and myself went on a MEL-LST-MEL proving flight, where the cockpit door was open and we had the entire aircraft to ourselves. On takeoff out of LST the pilot performed a performance takeoff with a high climbout rate - basically went full throttle and pointed the thing skyward laugh

Since Ansett collapsed I have had jobs that have required some domestic travel, so have tried to schedule my flights to get on as many QF and DJ aircraft types as possible.

I am looking forward to getting onto the A380 at some stage, as I have followed its development from concept.

Rog.

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#224259 - 22/07/2008 21:34 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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I know this is slightly off topic, but it is aviation related!

I've just been browsing Google Earth and there appears to be some new photos up at the moment. Have a look at the one of Brisbane Airport, the southern end of the main runway, just near the piano keys of 01 you can see the shadow of what looks to be a 737. Can anyone find the aircraft itself?

I was going to say may be it was a mystery flight ......

Greg
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#224260 - 23/07/2008 07:39 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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If it was YMML (Melbourne) id daresay it would be the remainder of the Ansett 737 which we crash landed on laugh

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#224261 - 23/07/2008 11:38 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Registered: 08/01/2007
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most flying i have done is in a little cessna172,mustering out on the stations.i tryed to fly it a few times but nerves got the better of me,kept getting closer to the ground with each turn so i gave up,plus the gut was feeling a little out of whack.we use to take it up to around 2000feet an shut it off an dive towards to the airstrip just to practise if anything ever did go wrong...worst one i went in was another cessna 172 ,quite a few planes flew into a certain station just for a fun day,throwing flour bombs out on people etc etc but my pilot was a little slow taking off an clipped the bloody mulga trees so showered everyone with sticks plus got me a little jumpy ,soon asked him to take it back down.also been inside a Hercules,two of them flew into Laverton to drop food an water supplys off to the town as we had been cut off from floodwaters when cyclone bobby came down

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#224262 - 24/07/2008 08:47 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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This made me laugh, it's a list of regulations for airline stewards in the US during the 1930's.


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#224263 - 24/07/2008 09:58 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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I guess with throwing things out the window, they were'nt flying concorde eek
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#224264 - 24/07/2008 22:16 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EReN9K9qWvQ Have posted this before somewhere, wouldnt want to be on that wing, first 30 seconds is the most dramatic
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#224265 - 24/07/2008 22:36 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Amazing, imagine being on the window seat bahaha crap yourself much?

i love the way the pilots stayed calm.
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#224266 - 24/07/2008 22:57 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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I could sence a bit of panic in his voice, it seems a bit urgent at first, then calms down.... eek
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#224267 - 24/07/2008 23:54 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Originally posted by rain gauge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EReN9K9qWvQ Have posted this before somewhere, wouldnt want to be on that wing, first 30 seconds is the most dramatic
I call that a Birdstrike the bird flies straight in front of the wing and the engine sucked the bird in and it damaged the engine and the pilots had to return to Manchester Airport with using 1 Engine, its not unusual for birdstrikes it can happen to any aircrafts smile .

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#224268 - 25/07/2008 06:49 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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well.....................we kinda gathered that :p
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#224269 - 25/07/2008 10:26 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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I could not believe my eyes yesterday when I got to work and spied not one but two B-52 USAF bombers sitting on the tarmac in the growing light at dawn. A few hours later they cranked them up and both took off and it was a sight I'll never forget. The huge cloud of black smoke blasting out of the EIGHT engines as it increased the throttle and powered down the runway and then the scream as it powered past on the climb. Amazing amazing and brilliant, whole body was reduced to tingles. What a machine.

I did get pics however it was with a dodgy 2mp camera phone as opposed to my 400D which I did not have with me....very annoyed.

TS cool

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#224270 - 25/07/2008 15:00 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Disconcerting.......QF Plane drops 20000 feet after emergency door "pops"....is now on the deck in Manila.....

http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,26058,24076175-5014090,00.html

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#224271 - 25/07/2008 15:22 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Quote:
Originally posted by rain gauge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EReN9K9qWvQ Have posted this before somewhere, wouldnt want to be on that wing, first 30 seconds is the most dramatic
That is awesome footage. Thumbs up to the cool professionalism of the pilots and control tower. Wouldn't want to be sitting on the right hand side of the plane watching that smoke puff out like that. If the ground microphone picked up that awful chugging noise, I wonder what it sounded like to the passengers?

I've landed at Sydney airport with fire engines following alongside. Turns out the front nose wheel wasn't locked. But we landed safely, if a little heavily.
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#224272 - 25/07/2008 15:43 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Originally posted by Rain Shadow (Fossy):
Quote:
Originally posted by rain gauge:
[b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EReN9K9qWvQ Have posted this before somewhere, wouldnt want to be on that wing, first 30 seconds is the most dramatic
That is awesome footage. Thumbs up to the cool professionalism of the pilots and control tower. Wouldn't want to be sitting on the right hand side of the plane watching that smoke puff out like that. If the ground microphone picked up that awful chugging noise, I wonder what it sounded like to the passengers?

I've landed at Sydney airport with fire engines following alongside. Turns out the front nose wheel wasn't locked. But we landed safely, if a little heavily. [/b]
Yes fossy i was with you! It was a brisbane to sydney flight in 1984, and the plane was making a funny noise as we taxied up to the teminal eek , it was an Ansett 727
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#224273 - 25/07/2008 17:28 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Ha ha, yeah that's right.

I wonder what the passengers were told just before they landed?

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we will be returning to Manchester Airport, as the pilot has forgotten his sunglasses. We apologise for the inconvenience, and thankyou for flying Thomson Airlines."
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#224274 - 26/07/2008 00:31 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Quote:
Originally posted by tornadochaser_76:
QF Plane drops 20000 feet after emergency door "pops"...
Initiating a descent to 10,000 feet as quickly as possible is standard procedure after a decompression. Presumably the papers will ignore this where possible in favour of painting it as an uncontrolled dive which will be in some way related to the failure of the skin.

I guess the poor old pax who tell their stories are not to know what's going on. Sounds like the crew did a ripping job all up. No pun intended.

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#224275 - 26/07/2008 03:26 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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I know you werent trying to put a "hole" in my story there AM - was News.com. I'll wing it from here I guess, and you can make heads or 'tails' of it...Enginuenely wasn't trying to be flippant there......so don't get into a flap....

I should learn to stop reading tabloid internet news, and look for good broadsheet, intellectual news. I know the standard SOP is to drop it to 10000ft so that oxymasks arent needed, but my mind still boggles at how this happened to our flag carrier. Chunks of Aircraft hulls dont just blow out - normally a serious error was involved, or metal fatigue happened.

Outsourcing? Shonky work at Avalon? The ol' man used to work at Avalon on the 747's....fitting out the interiors, and concerns were voiced back in 2005 regarding the 'way things were done'.

Took a tour of the facility back then - have some totally cool pix of what it looks like from the gantry over the top of a 747 in those hangars, but cannot post due to no webpagery at the moment. Will post ASAP....

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#224276 - 26/07/2008 03:59 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Airlines & Aircraft I've flown on...

1. B727 - TAA (T-Jet);
2. DC9 - TAA;
3. RAAF C130 Hercules - all models except the new J model;
4. B717 (VH-IMP - Jetstar);
5. B727 Ansett;
6. B737-200 Ansett;
7. B737-300 & 400 Ansett;
8. B737-400 Virgin Blue & Qantas;
9. B737-700 Virgin Blue;
10.B737-800 Virgin Blue & Qantas;
11.B747-300 Qantas (City of Tamworth);
12.B767-200 Ansett;
13.Airbus A320 Ansett & Jetstar;
14. Fokker F50 Ansett Express;
15. Fokker F100 (Skywest);
16. Boeing Dash 8 (Sunstate);
17. Shorts 330 (Sunstate)

Got to sit in the cockpit of a Macchi MB336 when I was in Airforce Cadets too - THAT was cool....Flown approx 50 times, but have NEVER been overseas!

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#224277 - 26/07/2008 09:28 Re: Aviation, Flying, and your flying / travel experiences & photos / movies...
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Yeah sorry tornadochaser, was commenting purely on the story itself, not your quote of it.

The frontrunner at present would have to be metal fatigue I'd say. Arguably the most famous comparable case happened to an Aloha Airlines 737-200 back in the 80s. In that instance most of the upper fuselage between the wing and the cockpit disappeared. One of the flight attendants was lost during the initial rapid decompression and I think she was the only fatality. The aircraft was landed in one piece - more or less.

There was a TV movie made about that event. Miracle Landing I think.

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