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#246304 - 08/12/2001 19:51 Box Jelly Fish
terrified Offline
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G,day to all,
This may be a topic of a difference,but it is something im curious about..

I live down here on the South Coast N.S.W.,Nowra.
I just watched the show World Around Us,im very curious to know wheather if anyone has ever sighted a Box jelly Fish,or may of been stung,or know anyone that may of been stung..

On the show,they showed Ben Cropp using vinigar for the stings,all im wondering wheather or not if it really workes,and how long does it take to take the sting out,or has anyone know a better way on killing the sting..

Many thanx,i look forward to your postings,and i really appreciate you reading my new topic..

Cheers...
Craig :wave:

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#246305 - 09/12/2001 00:35 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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as far as i know box jellyfish are only common in the tropical areas.

the vinegar works, so does peeing on yourself to put it bluntly. the acid kills the sting and washes the tentacle off. box jellyfish have small poisonous barbs all over their tentacles which is why they're so painful and why if you touch them with your hands etc the sting will go on that area and continue to inflict damage.

you can also wear stockings all over your body while swimming, the barbs cannot get through the mesh cos they're too small.

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#246306 - 09/12/2001 17:31 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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Quote:
Originally posted by terrified:
G,day to all,
This may be a topic of a difference,but it is something im curious about..

I live down here on the South Coast N.S.W.,Nowra.
I just watched the show World Around Us,im very curious to know wheather if anyone has ever sighted a Box jelly Fish,or may of been stung,or know anyone that may of been stung..

On the show,they showed Ben Cropp using vinigar for the stings,all im wondering wheather or not if it really workes,and how long does it take to take the sting out,or has anyone know a better way on killing the sting..

Many thanx,i look forward to your postings,and i really appreciate you reading my new topic..

Cheers...
Craig :wave:


Box Jelly fish lurk in tropical areas from October to May. Their Sting is fatal and if not treated with vinegar within about 2 mins the person may die. I once saw a person who had been stung and they had ugly scars all over their leg where the box jelly fish's tenticles had been. Although stockings work most people choose to swim in the stinger nets.

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#246307 - 09/12/2001 18:56 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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Many thanx to you all!!

The advice you gave me was greatly appreciated as i plan on taking my family for a holiday up North after xmas..
Cheers to all
Craig :cheers:

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#246308 - 10/12/2001 00:45 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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you'll be right inside the stinger nets, just watch where you walk on the beach after a storm etc. you normally can't see the tentacles but it's nothing to worry bout ok? just take care. the lifeguards are trained and know what to do.. just STAY IN THE NETS.

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#246309 - 10/12/2001 10:32 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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I live in Gladstone Central Queensland aand about ten years ago a young boy who was taken for a swim by his Grandmother was stung by a box jellyfish and tragiclly died. After this happened the local council put up a stinger net and left bottles of vinegar for use if needed. Years ago we never seemed to worry about getting stung because they were never sighted this far south but we haven't had a cold winter in years which now enables them to breed in our rivers and creeks. Another thing you have to watch out for from Gladstone north is crocs.

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Phil ]

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#246310 - 10/12/2001 13:32 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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At the moment Cairns is being invaded by irakanji (I hope I spelt that correctly) jellyfish, and they are a pain in the neck (as well as elsewhere). The little blighters only measure around 5cm fully grown, but their sting can make people awfully sick. The fact that they are so small means that the stinger nets offer no protection. A researcher from James Cook University has been trying to catch a decent number (around 50 will do) for the last 2 years. Well lo behold he hit pay dirt last Sunday. On Palm Cove beach he netted 400 in one afternoon. So there is hope now that a vaccine can be made.
The stupid thing was all the people who waded into the water ignoring the signs about the jellyfish. Suffice to say that Cairns Base Hospital was overloaded on Sunday night with stinger cases. Some people truly have got s%#*t for brains frown frown

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#246311 - 10/12/2001 16:51 Re: Box Jelly Fish
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I again would like to THANK each person for their reply to my posting..

I had never thought of the nets,nor of those other little buggers(the stranged name jelly-fish)..

I was sorry to of read about the little boy who was unfortunately killed by the jelly-fish,died over a inocent swim...

Many thanx to ALL!!!..

may i wish you and your families a safe & merry xmas and a safe new year..

cheers

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#1278705 - 03/10/2014 22:20 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Box Jelly fish season is starting soon in the tropics So I thought I might bump this thread to hear peoples stories or encounters with them.
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#1278707 - 03/10/2014 22:35 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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The last few years here in Broome the numbers of irukandji jellyfish stings has decreased to the point where Cable Beach didn't record a jellyfish sting this season. Last year there were only 3. Previous years there have been 20-30+. At the same time further down the coast in Exmouth 1000 kms away the numbers sky rocketed in the last 2 years where previously they rarely had a stinger season at all. Interesting to see seasonal variations in Jellyfish movements and where they are. Currents?
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#1278709 - 03/10/2014 22:47 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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I had what I assume was a small piece of box jelly tentacle lodge on my shoulder once while inside the stinger net during rough weather. The instant pain and proximity to my chest had me a bit worried for a minute, but as I left the water and had a look I realized it was only a small portion maybe a few cm long that I removed with my fingernails.A bit of vinegar to denature the proteins and all good.
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#1278714 - 03/10/2014 23:11 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Hey guys I am going to the Great Barrier Reef from the 30th October to 8th November for my year 10 camp. Do you guys think box jellyfish will be a concern at this time of year at around the Airlie Beach area?

That is interesting Popeye, I think it could be something to do with currents or even the Indian Ocean Dipole?


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#1278715 - 03/10/2014 23:24 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Boxies are more of a problem on the southern side of Conway Range early in the season Sea-Mist but they have been dragged in Muddy bay during the wet. You should probably wear a stinger suit around Airlie but they are not an issue around the islands. irukandji are though especially if northerlies are blowing.

Good idea to heighten awareness of the many dangers in tropical waters .
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#1278719 - 04/10/2014 00:03 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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You can also get dangers occurring in your pool Coldie. Maybe a scorpion falling in, a bee floating on the top. Sometimes spiders can stay alive with an air bubble wrapped around them. You be careful in your pool. Dangerous place.
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#1278722 - 04/10/2014 00:39 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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I always have noticed the vinegar on the beaches. I may be wrong but I thought it was only to kill and tentacles left on ones body so one doesn't get stung trying to pull them off. It's not a 'cure'. If you get stung the tentacles release a venom into the blood stream. If you got stung vinegar wont fix it, get to the hospital asap.

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#1278723 - 04/10/2014 00:44 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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That's right. Apparently the vinegar neutralises the darts that haven't been fired yet but a paramedic told me that there will never be enough vinegar on a beach for a bad Box Jelly sting.
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#1278725 - 04/10/2014 00:45 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Latest research apparently says that whilst vinegar will de-activate the unfired stinging cells it will also continue to fire the already activated cells therefore releasing more venom into the victim.

So what do you do just leave them on and risk more firing off or splash some vinegar on to deactivate them. Until further research is done I guess places will still use Vinegar.
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#1278733 - 04/10/2014 07:36 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Here is a interesting article relating to the use of vinegar on Box stings.

Should we stop using vinager on Box stings?
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#1278740 - 04/10/2014 09:09 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Thanks for the response guys!

CF- I didn't actually realise that boxies were south of Airlie Beach in the early part of the season. I always thought they came down with the warm water, then when it got cooler again they'd retreat. So thanks for giving me a new understanding on boxies smile

And I'm guessing they get pushed up the coast by the SE trades?

Yeah vinegar is not a cure as Adam said, it only kills the tentacles and vinegar is also not good for the skin if to much is used to relieve it, as vinegar is acidic (pH of 3) so it can burn the skin. Hospital is deffs the best bet.

Seems like an interesting article there HF, will read it another time as it is pretty long.


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#1278747 - 04/10/2014 10:49 Re: Box Jelly Fish [Re: terrified]
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Every year a group of cane cockies go down to Midge Point once the northerlies have been blowing for a couple of days and drag for prawns. A mate of mine down there got whacked on the ankle as he was coming out of the water many years bag. It was well before the rains hit.

They become more abundant along the beaches after big rain because they become concentrated. They like the creeks but the rains flush them out.
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