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#249882 - 07/12/2001 14:01 Oceanographers???
Craig Arthur Offline
Wind hazard researcher

Registered: 08/05/2001
Posts: 3549
Loc: 149.152009°E 35.187056°...
A query to all who visit the forums, how many oceanograhers are there here? I've had quite a bit of education in this field and I'm wondering just how many others know a bit too. Also, if anyone's interested but doesn't know too much, I'd be happy to help you out...

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#249883 - 07/12/2001 14:05 Re: Oceanographers???
Smitty Offline
Hydrologist

Registered: 23/05/2001
Posts: 2073
Loc: Melbourne City
I have only done upto 2nd year Oceanography at uni. From their hydrology and physics took my fancy.

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#249884 - 07/12/2001 17:26 Re: Oceanographers???
Anonymous
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I have done a bit of oceanography at uni too. Did a project on upper ocean temperature in the southwest Pacific. Happy to further discuss this topic if anyone is interested smile

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#249885 - 07/12/2001 19:04 Re: Oceanographers???
Adiabatic Offline
Member

Registered: 01/09/2001
Posts: 14190
Loc: Knoxfield 96m: 120.2mm
This may sound silly but what do oceaonographers do? What are the jobs that can follow the study?

4 SEASONS laugh

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#249886 - 07/12/2001 21:02 Re: Oceanographers???
thermalben Offline
Weather Freak

Registered: 17/04/2001
Posts: 769
Loc: Tweed Coast
4 Seasons, there are many jobs that stem from this field. Both meteorology and oceanography are closely coupled, and small oceanic variations play a great role in long term climate changes. Studying the ocean profile at depth (along with other met observations) can give indications of the onset of La Nina and El Nino conditions. Have a look at these two sites for some interesting research work:
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/
http://nemo.gsfc.nasa.gov/ocean.html
Aside from research work, realtime data can be of great use to shipping companies. Currents can be utilised to advantage to save on fuel costs of large oceangoing vessels, and ocean forecasts can also warn of imminent danger too (ie the Aghuelas [sp?] current off the SE coast of South Africa is a notorious area where the current and swell create hazardous conditions).

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#249887 - 07/12/2001 22:42 Re: Oceanographers???
Anonymous
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No training in any area but I do have an interest in SSTa and the various indicies. Last Year I spent some time looking into the indian ocean version of the SOI to see if any long range trends for weather in south eastern oz could be found. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has done similar research.

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#249888 - 07/12/2001 22:57 Re: Oceanographers???
Adiabatic Offline
Member

Registered: 01/09/2001
Posts: 14190
Loc: Knoxfield 96m: 120.2mm
br, thanks....very much!!!! I have now added these sites to my favourites for some interesting work through the holidays!!

Cheers :cheers:

4 SEASONS18 DAYS TO GO!!!

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#249889 - 10/12/2001 18:05 Re: Oceanographers???
Chas Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 25/04/2001
Posts: 46
Loc: Jabiru NT
I have a question. A friend who is a meteorologist explained how swells catch low pressure systems grow and then pass on ahead in the southern ocean.
How fast do the swells travel?

Chas

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#249890 - 10/12/2001 22:45 Re: Oceanographers???
pingtang Offline
Meteorological Motor Mouth

Registered: 18/11/2001
Posts: 5525
Loc: Nowra, NSW
I wouldent know exactly how fast swells would travel.Obviously,at the beach,the shallower water will slow the swells down dramatically.

I will try and work it out.Usually I check the NSW buoys for any swell.With south swells,the eden buoy will rise first,and then a two hours later it will reach Ulladulla.So swells do move quite quickly.My prediction is that swells travel at a speed of 80-100km/h.

Next time,look for a decent low and time how long it takes for it to arrive.
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#249891 - 11/12/2001 09:07 Re: Oceanographers???
Craig Arthur Offline
Wind hazard researcher

Registered: 08/05/2001
Posts: 3549
Loc: 149.152009°E 35.187056°...
A bit short on time, but just quickly, swell speed depends on the depth of the water. There's a simple relationship between water depth and wave speed, (gH)^(1/2), g is gravity (9.8 m/s^2), H is the water depth in metres. This is called the shallow water approximation. Give me a few hours (perhaps a day or two) and I'll give you a better explanation...

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#249892 - 12/12/2001 15:00 Re: Oceanographers???
hoxygt77 Offline
Member

Registered: 09/12/2001
Posts: 199
Loc: Perth
I did a pre - honours project (6months) in swell climatology at Murdoch University (Perth) for Department of Transport, its not much but I would have loved to do more work/ research etc but there are no jobs in West Australia and few in Australia based on swell climate/ forecasting etc, unfortunate as America is has well developed swell models, observing and forecasting networks - maybe in a few years. Rob

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#249893 - 09/02/2002 18:39 Re: Oceanographers???
cray fisherman Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/02/2002
Posts: 1
Loc: warrnambool
Quote:
Originally posted by hoxygt77:
I did a pre - honours project (6months) in swell climatology at Murdoch University (Perth) for Department of Transport, its not much but I would have loved to do more work/ research etc but there are no jobs in West Australia and few in Australia based on swell climate/ forecasting etc, unfortunate as America is has well developed swell models, observing and forecasting networks - maybe in a few years. Rob

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#249894 - 09/02/2002 23:19 Re: Oceanographers???
pingtang Offline
Meteorological Motor Mouth

Registered: 18/11/2001
Posts: 5525
Loc: Nowra, NSW
Hi cray fisherman and welcome to the forum.

You quoted some-ones message,and you didnt even say anything about it. smile

[ 09-02-2002: Message edited by: pingtang ]
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#249895 - 26/10/2002 20:14 Re: Oceanographers???
anewts Offline
Weatherzone Addict

Registered: 21/08/2002
Posts: 3343
Loc: Forestville, NSW
interesting topic u have going here craig..

im just doing my HSC at the moment and studied geography and EARTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE, which replaces the old geology course...

i really enjoyed the course, which is made up of 3 topics plus and option topic (of which there was three choices) our teacher is the biggest nut at oceanography so naturally we did that....i have never know someone to know so much about the oceans and all...i wouldnt mind studying it further as it was very interesting

anewts :cheers:

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#249896 - 02/12/2002 14:25 Re: Oceanographers???
Jaci Brown Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/12/2002
Posts: 7
Loc: Hobart
HI Everyone,
I can't resist replying to this one! I am currently doing a PhD in Oceanography and there are heaps of areas to study and jobs in Australia. My PhD is actually Maths but my focus is currents in the eastern equatorial Pacific (well it is this week, I keep changing). I am based at the CSIRO in Hobart which is a Marine Lab so there is a whole floor of physical oceanographers. We also have lots of others looking at the chemistry and biology of the ocean. I believe there is a Marine CSIRO that has now been set up in WA aswell. While there is weather there will always be a need for Oceanographers! The Antarctic Division is also big in oceanography in Tas and its not too tricky to get on a ship heading south if you are brave!
I'm not sure if I could face the cold or the sea sickness - I think I'll stick to theory.
Jaci

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#249897 - 02/12/2002 15:11 Re: Oceanographers???
Craig Arthur Offline
Wind hazard researcher

Registered: 08/05/2001
Posts: 3549
Loc: 149.152009°E 35.187056°...
Hello Jaci!

So you're actually doing some work in TAS now? laugh

I'm looking at doing a MSc in oceanography next year, just in the process of narrowing down my options. I should have a chat with you about the potential supervisors @UNSW some time... :wave:

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#249898 - 03/12/2002 13:38 Re: Oceanographers???
Jaci Brown Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/12/2002
Posts: 7
Loc: Hobart
Congrats Craig! I knew you couldn't keep away. Send me an email and I'll tell you more about the UNSW supervisors - I won't post that here!
My biggest advice would be to study in Tasmania but perhaps I am biased.

Good Luck,
Jaci

PS. I am working very hard - my funding runs out in May.

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#249899 - 05/01/2003 12:56 Re: Oceanographers???
Craig Arthur Offline
Wind hazard researcher

Registered: 08/05/2001
Posts: 3549
Loc: 149.152009°E 35.187056°...
Finally settled on a topic for my MSc, flow around capes and canyons in the continental shelf :nerd:
I decided that I needed a challenge, rather than a straight-forward topic like modelling Botany Bay :rolleyes: .

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#249900 - 05/01/2003 13:51 Re: Oceanographers???
anewts Offline
Weatherzone Addict

Registered: 21/08/2002
Posts: 3343
Loc: Forestville, NSW
good luck craig, sounds really interesting.

Andrew

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#249901 - 07/01/2003 15:58 Re: Oceanographers???
Jaci Brown Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/12/2002
Posts: 7
Loc: Hobart
Good on you Craig!
Who is your supervisor?
What is the gossip from UNSW?
Jaci

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#249902 - 08/01/2003 12:55 Re: Oceanographers???
Craig Arthur Offline
Wind hazard researcher

Registered: 08/05/2001
Posts: 3549
Loc: 149.152009°E 35.187056°...
Hi Jaci,

I'm going to be working with John Middleton, working on the project part-time to begin with. I've got to remember all the stuff I thought I'd never need again! eek Should be ok though. I'm also going to do a bit of tutoring, which could be a bit interesting....

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#249903 - 08/01/2003 13:58 Re: Oceanographers???
Justaminute Offline
Member

Registered: 15/02/2001
Posts: 3649
Loc: Sydney
Interesting Craig and I hope it goes well for you.
A good friend of mine recently retired from Marine research CSIRO Hobart.
George Cresswell, George did a lot of research on the Leeuwin Current along Western Australian Southern.
I enclose this link for your interest and any others, of course.
George is a top bloke......
anyway, good luck Craig, btw when are we hitting the Blah,Blah Bar ????

Ashton

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#249904 - 08/01/2003 14:19 Re: Oceanographers???
Justaminute Offline
Member

Registered: 15/02/2001
Posts: 3649
Loc: Sydney

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#249905 - 08/01/2003 19:59 Re: Oceanographers???
anewts Offline
Weatherzone Addict

Registered: 21/08/2002
Posts: 3343
Loc: Forestville, NSW
by any chance have any of u heard of Steve McClean

:cheers: Andrew

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#249906 - 17/03/2003 16:31 Re: Oceanographers???
Thunderstruck Offline
Lightning man

Registered: 10/05/2001
Posts: 15024
Loc: Seaford Meadows, SA
G'Day all, good luck with your study Craig smile

I'm doing second year Oceanography at the moment, seems pretty interesting so far with Upwelling and stuff like that, Maths component isnt too bad, pracs are great. Ill prolly continue this into 3rd year after ive done the geopgysical fluid dynamics component.

TS cool

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