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#32815 - 17/09/2006 15:52 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
eternal rain Offline
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it makes me sick when weather reporters make comments such as a "beautiful warm spell - fingers crossed the rains keep away".
yeah, tell me about it :rolleyes: . And its not just weather reporters, its almost everyone which makes it more embarassing.

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#32816 - 17/09/2006 19:31 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
TrenthamStormchasers Offline
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....but it makes a large proportion of the population happy, because they only want rain when they are asleep, and with the school holidays on in Victoria, they certainly don't 'want' rain now....but if you ask them if they 'need' rain, they will tell you definitely YES!

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#32817 - 17/09/2006 19:54 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
ant Offline
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Only city people. Those who know that no rain means no water don't carry on like that.

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#32818 - 17/09/2006 21:04 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
adon Offline
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Yeah I reckon up here there would be a party with a 2 day rain event! We have had a girl from Adelaide working in our pub for the last couple of months. She is leaving to go to Melbourne next week but she told me the other night that she has learned a hell of a lot while being here. Most of all what a rain truely means. She reckons she will appreciate rain a hell of a lot more now. But you cannot blame city people tho. They are so distanced from farming(and nature for that matter) they have no idea how it works. As long as the sun is shining and water comes out of the tap and food is on the table life is sweet. Obvioulsy not all city people are not like this but geez I have met a lot of people who have no idea where their food comes from.

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#32819 - 17/09/2006 21:22 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
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Yeah that is so right city people live in a world of there own and have no idea what is out side the limits of the burbs

Up north Rain means money simple as that
I admit that i do love warm sunny days with temps high 20s low 30s but that means massive drying and dry dusty soils frown

Good luck up north for rain am going home next week for a week and i can only image what it looks like atm so very dry i bet and with 28-31c last few days and for the next few not good news

this is worst than 2002 by far

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#32820 - 17/09/2006 21:41 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
thomo Offline
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Originally posted by Twisters:


Up north Rain means money simple as that
I admit that I do love warm sunny days with temp’s high 20s low 30s but that means massive drying and dry dusty soils frown

This is worst than 2002 by far
Don't we all love the warm weather, as long as it's not 42 as it does get. That 25~30 degree weather is good to get as long as the rain comes with it, 25mm a week would be good if it was like that.

But the flip side is this being one of the driest winters, has also been one of the best seasons we have ever seen. It's been good not getting around in 6 inches of mud and s***. We started silage on Wed last week and we have only ever started once in September and that was in the last week. We have that much grass we need to get it into storage.
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#32821 - 17/09/2006 21:43 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
Seabreeze Offline
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Registered: 18/09/2005
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Well I hope it doesn't rain/storm here between the 7th and 16th of October, as I'll be up in Cairns and I'll miss out on it (well it would be more "tragic" to miss out on a storm than rain). Though luck is on my side because no more than 2.4mm has ever fallen when I have been on holidays, no matter what length of holiday I've been on.
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Year to date Rainfall: 1246.6mm (Jan-May Avg. 806.6mm)
Year to date Raindays: 71 (Jan-May Avg. 67.1 raindays)

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#32822 - 17/09/2006 21:44 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
adon Offline
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Well still looking pretty good here for the moment but yeah this heat without rain will do some big time frying from now on. Would notsay we are worse than 2002 ATM cos by this time last year we were getting dust storms and while we may be only a few hot a windy days from that we could still get a luck storm to pull somthing out of the bag. ATM wind is our biggest enemy so if we can not get too much of that we may get out of jail. It is far worse in other areas though.

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#32823 - 17/09/2006 22:49 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
Twisters Offline
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Yeah it is the other areas that are haveing horror year with rain once in winter that was the july system

I know in N mallee and much Of E Sa they are pretty bad and yes there are pockets that doing ok but not many

Wa also had dreist winter ever and inland Nsw and Vic are very dry to

Yeah 2002 was shocking and i rember by october every change we had was a ripper dust storm and never any rain but this year is very slimer unless good rain and bit cooler lateer this month and october will see

Though this year one of the dryest and warmest ever 2002 wasnt as record breaking but was bad next month will give a better idea

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#32824 - 17/09/2006 22:53 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
adon Offline
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Trying to keep positive twisters but bloody hell ya makin it hard mate! wink

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#32825 - 17/09/2006 23:04 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
Twisters Offline
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I know u live by it, me i just live in it though not these days.

You have been lucky and after tuesday u should be ok for week or so be bit windy and warm sorry i should stop, that more bad news wishing u the best mate

U stay postive it be great

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#32826 - 17/09/2006 23:16 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
AussieMark79 Offline
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to Compare this to 2002

here is rainfall expressed as a % to average for Melbourne

2002
March - 39.13%
April - 66.32%
May - 63.60%
June - 53.82%
July - 179.54%
August - 71.97%
September - 65.42%

2006
March - 31.62%
April - 77.32%
May - 118.37%
June - 17.67%
July - 107.72%
August - 67.99%
September - 47.36%


Autumn
2002: 57.07%
2006: 77.39%

Winter
2002: 100.68%
2006: 63.92%

Mar-September
2002: 75.73%
2006: 67.29%

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#32827 - 18/09/2006 00:41 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
Twisters Offline
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Yeah that shows for Melb that 2006 so far is dryer, so far this year is worse but that is local recordeing again intresting facts thanks for that smile

Any way i should stop compareing this is another horror year on top of many bad years and atm not getting any better

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#32828 - 18/09/2006 17:47 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
Adiabatic Offline
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Loc: Knoxfield 96m: 120.2mm
Chance of a little rain at times overnight through much of the southern coastline of SA (increasing W of Ceduna this evening) as the last remaining parts of the cloudband through the Bight moves into VIC and the strong cold front works it's way in from WA into SA. Could be some alright falls near the lower SE tomorrow afternoon but the Ag areas may just get a sprinkle.

Melbourne will see a very windy day - sunny at times, though middle level cloud will develop mid afternoon and rain to follow not long after that with a rather unstable N flow shifting vigourous Wly and then easing. Some areas across the south (particularly the E suburbs of Melbourne and E ranges) could see 15-20mm locally just with the nature of SW wind changes.

Wednesday could see a few more mm across the south parts of VIC, heavy showers across W TAS likely in the W airstream and clearing over the Southern Agricultural regions of SA but a few showers persisting over the lower SE.

Melbourne will go about 26C tomorrow. I think it will be a little bit windy and cloudy for it to get that high. Adelaide will be a little cooler with the early cloud cover and a few showers with some thunder possible.

But with the steep temp gradient - this should help lifting and convection along the wind change, increasing thunderstorm chances across TAS (Mainly W and N coast), VIC (Mainly SW and South Central) and SE SA. Nothing severe but could enhance rainfall for a period across much of VIC. It's going to be for now a S VIC and TAS event.

The winds will be fairly gale force over much of Tasmania - however E TAS might be a little more sheltered. Plenty of rain for the W coast - up to 100mm possible to the end of the weekend with a series of strong southern ocean and Bight lows likely to pass near to the Apple Isle.

Looking later in the week there is the potential for 2 rainbands. One for Friday night and another for Sunday (the latter one being more favoured for Southern VIC and TAS) but this should see some rain reach north of the divide in most areas regardless.

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#32829 - 18/09/2006 21:57 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
Papy_Zapy Offline
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We need 300 mm + over a 2 week period to give a 10% lift in our water storages.

Would we need +1000mm over a 3 week period to fill our dams?

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#32830 - 18/09/2006 23:36 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
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The lack of Sydneysiders on this thread proves that we've faired well with regards to rainfall throughout winter and much of September to date. However, we had a shocker Autumn... so we deserved a little excitement from awesome rain events both in June and September, and thunderstorm events on two instances during August (the first one generating a coastal tornado over La Perousse and the second one producing hail coverings over the CBD on the 15th).

2006 in North Turramurra started off OK (including the Sydney Flash Flood event of 26th Feb... 24mm in 15 minutes and a 3 hour total of 62.6mm here), but our Autumn was the worst Sydney's North Shore has ever seen. Come the 2nd June, we had received 260.6mm throughout the year, against the historic Turramurra average of 706.8mm... just 37% of the average. Autumn alone was even worse... just 54.8mm recorded, less than 13.3% of the avg.

Welcomed and substantial coastal rains during June (totalling 77.6mm for the initial week) provided some relief, alongside our first above avg month since November 2005 producing 79mm (July). August 4th provided 30mm, but then a prolonged dry spell occured.

Then, the September rains came!!! And WOW weren't they awesome! 174.6mm to date during September to date, which is 246.6% of and 103.8mm above the Turramurra avg of 70.8mm. The grass is lush and green, the flowers are out, waterfalls continue to gush in the bush and Spring is definately in the air!

Now bring on October! But I believe it's now the Victorians and South Australians turn for some decent and much needed rains. Fingers crossed for Adon, Osprey and others.

:cheers:

Steve smile

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#32831 - 19/09/2006 04:15 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
rainfan Offline
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Have to agree with you Stevo re Autumn 2006 rainfall for the Sydney Basin, that was a absolute shocker especially April with only 9mm and the endless boring sunny days (sunniest ever April with 280 hours), so am more than happy with Winter 2006 as well as September's rainfalls. I just hope it contuines, as current models forecast not much rain for Sydney for the rest of this month and October as well. eek

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#32832 - 19/09/2006 22:03 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
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Some widespread heatwave conditions today has given way to some modest rainfall - 5mm across most of southern VIC with 10-15mm falls in the SW of the state. Lower SE of SA fairing best today.

Northern and Western TAS seeing some OK rainfall but nothing to write home about.

Really need to bank on this weekend.

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#32833 - 19/09/2006 23:04 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
ant Offline
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I'm puzzled by the radar. Everyone's being lukewarm about it, even the BOM, but it looks big'n'green. Is it just virga? Huge gusty winds and dust and stuff... isn't all that green some rain?

I can't believe it's mid September. this is just nuts.

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#32834 - 20/09/2006 08:03 Re: Looking towards the next substantial rainfall for SE Australia??
BOM99 Offline
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Yes this weather is nuts, and yet it is not even the Equinox yet. Seems like it will be full on summer by the Equinox when in reality spring should only just begin.

As for rain, the models are starting to indicate a substantial spring type rain event around Thursday/Friday next week. Lets hope at least something like it happens.

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