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#444336 - 28/01/2009 15:17 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ant Offline
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Can you paraphrase the story, DNO? I'm not clicking on that link in case there's a picture. I will jump 10 feet if I see a snake, even a picture.

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#444337 - 28/01/2009 15:39 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
cyclonecece Offline
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Its got another snake eating another snake,then it spits it out an they both slither away..Aaawwww,gross stuff

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#444338 - 28/01/2009 16:32 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ant Offline
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Is there a picture?!

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#444339 - 28/01/2009 18:23 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
DNO Offline
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Ant.
Briefly, Mr B and wife see a 5'6" red belly black snake with the tail end of a brown snake sticking out of it's mouth (Pic 1). The snake swallows the brown completely and after a while the black snake reappears on the lawn somewhat distressed.
Black snake opens his mouth and the head of the brown snake appears, and when it emerges a bit, it bites the black on the lip and latches on (pic 2).
After a while the entire brown (4'6") is expelled, (pics 3&4) and they both go their own seperate ways,apparently unharmed.

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#444340 - 28/01/2009 18:38 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
cyclonecece Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by ant:
Is there a picture?!
eek eek yes 4 of them

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#444341 - 28/01/2009 18:49 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
Andy Double U Offline
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Loc: Mundoolun, SE QLD, 129m ASL
I wouldn't believe it unless I saw it... and I'm seeing it!! eek

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#444342 - 28/01/2009 18:52 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
cyclonecece Offline
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So with both snakes been i persume bitten by each other,would they both die????

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#444343 - 28/01/2009 21:26 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ant Offline
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Thanks for the account, I'm sure not going anywhere near that site! What an odd thing to happen. And if a snake of that type will eat other snakes, they maybe they hunt lizards too. I've got heaps of lizards...

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#444344 - 28/01/2009 21:43 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
Craig Arthur Offline
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Snake venom - as is the case with many venemous creatures - is only toxic to a small number of creatures, so it's perfectly possible that Browns aren't poisonous to Red-bellied Blacks. I recall seeing footage of a cat playing with a funnel-web spider and the spider continually striking the cat, but the cat keeps thinking it's a game. Turns out funnel-webs are toxic to invertebrates and only a small number of mammals - specifically primates.

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#444345 - 28/01/2009 22:51 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
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#444346 - 29/01/2009 17:31 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ROM Offline
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The herpetologists that you sometimes find at the big Agricultural Field Days will tell you that the Red Bellied Blacks are almost the only animal that is immune to the venom of the Australian Brown snake.
They are quite adamant that the number of browns are increasing and that the environment conditions that mankind has created suits the Browns as a habitat.
Their advice, despite the office dwelling do gooder legal aspects, is to get rid of the Browns if you have them close around your property.
The herpetologists also say, try to keep a few Red Bellied blacks around as they are cannibalistic and will eat browns as we saw in the post above.
That post is really interesting although the Brown may not have survived for long afterwards.
Snakes are actually delicate creatures and it does not take much of an injury to eventually kill them.
The venom of the Red Bellied Blacks is pretty potent but the fangs are apparently too short to do to much damage to a human being and therefore they are not a serious danger to have around the place, particularly if they keep the Browns at bay.
Not that I would want to try a Red Bellied Black out on the potentcy of their venom or the length of their fangs.

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#444347 - 29/01/2009 18:32 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
cyclonecece Offline
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Thanks Graig an ROM,so theres a good chance that the Brown has died then ?

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#444348 - 04/02/2009 00:43 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
chiltern Offline
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Registered: 02/02/2009
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Hi Guys
Interesting piece of trivia us country hicks (that have had encounters with soooo many snakes) found out last year. Maybe answers the question about "do snakes like milk"?
We went to the first "Hospital" ever founded (it's in Pergamon in Turkey - now ruins).
A shortened version. You know the medical symbol of the two intertwined snakes - well Galen,the doctor of the hospital turned away people who were dying and let in those that they thought they could save. confused A man who had been bitten by a snake arrived at the gate, was turned away and wanted to die quickly. He saw two snakes drinking milk from a saucer, injesting it, expelling it (with venom added). eek
He drank the milk to kill himself, and turned up alive and kicking 3 days later at the hospital. The first anti venom used. Hence the symbol (called caduceus) of the intertwined snakes.
Moral? Leave lots of saucers of milk around in case you get bitten :cheers:

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#444349 - 04/02/2009 09:56 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ant Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by ColdFront:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/27/2475461.htm

Here's another link for Ant.
I'm not falling for that one.

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#444350 - 04/02/2009 09:59 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ant Offline
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Interesting stuff, ROM, and it sounds sensible. The browns I've encountered lately (more than ever before) don't give a stuff about me, they just stay where they are, or come at me. Thing is, when they do that, you can get too close and then they go into defence/attack mode. They're just not compatible with people.

My family on a farm in Canberra seem to have a lot, too. It's a semi-rural area, lots of businesses and things, and yet there's one living in teh ivy on the walkway between 2 houses, and I saw one on teh driveway a while back. They are very comfortable living way too close to people.

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#444351 - 04/02/2009 12:18 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
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Quote:
Originally posted by ant:
Quote:
Originally posted by ColdFront:
[b] http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/27/2475461.htm

Here's another link for Ant.
I'm not falling for that one. [/b]
Falling for what?
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#444352 - 03/04/2009 21:26 Re: Getting rid of SNAKES?
ant Offline
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Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
I've had enough of these damn snakes. A month ago I was weed spraying and one was sprawled on some open ground, he didn't care when I screeched and ran (brown).

Then today, late arvo, there was this big FAT red belly black hanging around near my car. I screeched and ran, and from a safe distance threw stones at it. Didn't want it creeping into my car. So it carefully sleazed into the bio-septic's control hood. Oh great! Why are red belly blacks so fat? Browns aren't fat.

And coldfront, I was thinking that the story probably contained a picture of a snake, and I hate those!

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