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#1054546 - 11/01/2012 16:51 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: SBT]
GuyH Offline
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Couple of great ideas there mate!
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#1118370 - 06/08/2012 15:27 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
SBT Offline
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Registered: 07/02/2007
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Loc: Townsville Dry Tropics
Revisiting our cyclone kit again this year, time to start looking at new batteries, throwing out the out of date stuff and upgrading a few things. I might work out a bit of a photo essay and put it up later in the year with what we have prepared for the upcomming season. Going to update my medical kit too. Now I'm an insulin dependant diabetic I need fridge tempratures to keep my insulin in good nick.

Also making some cyclone candles for the next season - not too sure what scents to use in them but Lemon Myrtle will be one of them. For those interested we will be selling these at the Willows markets sometime before the end of the year. Citronella will have to be included to keep the biteys away. Bloody mossies where in plague proportions after Yasi.
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#1118467 - 06/08/2012 20:56 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: SBT]
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Here a very good link to get into.

enjoy.
http://www.ema.gov.au

http://www.bom.gov.au/storm_watchers_game/


Edited by mat (06/08/2012 20:58)
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#1155464 - 05/01/2013 19:50 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: Mathew]
Leelee Offline
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Registered: 30/11/2012
Posts: 281
Loc: Karratha, WA
Just finished the kit today, made sure to stock up on dog bikkies and canned food, got caught out once about 9 years ago when Maitland bridge was destroyed, Norwest Coastal HWY access was cut for over two weeks until they made a truck pass.

Thankgod for the inland road!

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#1164987 - 24/01/2013 23:38 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: Leelee]
Rainbose Offline
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Registered: 25/12/2010
Posts: 262
Loc: Malanda, Queensland, Australia
We buy fruit juice in 1 litre tetra packs (the cardboard type juice containers with the screw type lid). When we've finished the juice we wash them thoroughly and fill them with water and freeze them. When power is out they help keep the freezer cold, plus you can defrost them and you have drinking water if you need it. You can use the plastic milk bottles as well, but they must be very well cleaned if you're using them for drinking water as well as ice.

A hint for wheelie bins ... There are wheelie bin sized plastic garbage bins available, so if your bin isn't particularly clean you can place a bag in the bin before filling it with water, this gives you clean water for flushing the loo with, washing up, hand rinsing/washing clothes, etc. Take the wheelie bin inside and place it where you need/want it before filling with water, as they are extremely heavy and hard to move once full.

With important papers or photos and the like - scan them and save them on to DVD's. DVD's take up much less room than paperwork, they are waterproof and also, DVD's hold so much more info than CD's.


Edited by Rainbose (24/01/2013 23:42)
Edit Reason: Additional info
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#1165022 - 25/01/2013 01:41 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: Rainbose]
Rainbose Offline
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Registered: 25/12/2010
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Loc: Malanda, Queensland, Australia
I forgot to mention that we always boil the water from the juice tetra packs and milk containers before we use it - not worth the risk of getting tummy trouble.

Also, we have swapped our bulb type torches for LED torches.
We now have 12v LED lights as well. Some of the lights have aligator clips type connectors which we can clip to the Neg & Pos posts on a battery, and some have cigarette lighter type connectors which obviously plug into a cigarette lighter socket. We have changed our torches & lights to LED's as they take a very small amount of power to run, whereas the older style torches & lights chew through the power, in comparison.

Jaycar sometimes have small 7.2a SLA Deep Cycle Gel Cell 12v batteries for around $20. One of them will run LED lights for several days.
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#1234776 - 27/01/2014 11:39 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
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Registered: 30/12/2010
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Some handy hints and good ideas on here for anyone new to a cyclone area.
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#1283235 - 06/11/2014 01:29 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
Azzad Offline
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Registered: 22/12/2013
Posts: 105
Loc: Karratha
1 Toilet Paper (because I'm going to get the [censored] when the power go's out!)
2 Air Freshner...see No 1
3 Shovel see No 4
4 Dog (mans best friend)
5 Canary (In case there is a Gas Leak )
6 Mirror ( to signal people & keep my good looks in check!)
7 Hair Brush see No 6
8 Cat ( to give the dog something to chase during the Cyclone)
9 Wife ( Im married )
10 A sence of humor (To keep my [censored] together during the worst times to keep the family laughing as the house slowly tears itself away)
11 Kite ( Speaks for itself )
12 Beer,Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer!
13 Kids
14 Money ( to bribe the kids to take the dog out in when its windy & wet, they can fly the kite at the same time!!)
15 Torch ( see No1 )
16 ......Sleep!!!!! when its all over and everyone is safe!

But seriously this fourum is a great tool and helped me and my family endure TC Christine last year I chatted to a few people during the event which kept me calm. I have learnt alot about Cyclones and one thing I learnt is .........Take them Seriously!!

I'll post a real Kit shortly grin


Edited by Azzad (06/11/2014 01:34)
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#1344344 - 20/10/2015 10:53 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
FNQ Offline
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Registered: 19/05/2007
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Loc: Clifton Beach, Cairns - Queens...
An article in Cairn's Post (20/10/2015) is a timely reminder to get our emergency kits up to date.
http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/specia...1-1227574874891

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#1344346 - 20/10/2015 11:19 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
Things Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2009
Posts: 8400
Loc: Blair Athol, SA
It's an interesting article. Although I can't help but feel a bit of it is a little old fashioned .. namely the part about having candles in your emergency kit. Good to have I guess but we have better technology now, a torch using a single AA could provide about the same amount of light as a candle for a week on end, without the risk of burning down your house, especially if you have kids/animals that could knock them over. I remember going through Steve as a kid with candles scattered around the house, it was a unique experience and it's one of the very few things I distinctly remember from that age, but I think it's kind of an unnecessary risk nowadays. Water is an important one that many people overlook - though I think in most places the water supply is gravity fed, so damage to infrastructure from a cyclone seems unlikely. But, not like bulk bottled water is expensive, nor containers to fill yourself.

One thing I like to suggest to people is have a very basic landline phone available. Phone exchanges have battery backups that will allow the phone system to keep functioning for at least a few days without power. If you have a landline phone that is not mains powered, then it should still operate. Mobile towers can get damaged, and a mains powered landline is no use without power, but a basic old landline will usually still work (and even if mobiles do still work, you'll avoid the congestion, too) smile

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#1344419 - 20/10/2015 20:37 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
Dawgggg Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2007
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Loc: Townsville
Heres a good one

DONT OPEN WINDOWS TO *EQUALISE* PRESSURE IN YOUR HOUSE DURING A CYCLONE

What a old wives tale that always pops its head during an event.

More likely to damage your house than make a difference...
Sorry but this is a pet hate of mine


Edited by Trav dawwggg (20/10/2015 20:37)
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#1344440 - 20/10/2015 23:24 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
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Registered: 29/06/2008
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Loc: Wide Bay..Near the beach
I know a builder in the Whitsundays that went through Ada and insists that opening a bank of Louvers stopped his walls and ceiling bowing out and claims it saved his house. I have no reason to doubt him as he proved to be a man of integrity time and again when I worked with him. Others down there claimed the same.

Similarly another did a cyclone building course in Brisbane many years back and one of the solutions was vented eaves.
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#1344443 - 21/10/2015 00:14 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
Things Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2009
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Loc: Blair Athol, SA
I think the term "pressure" is thrown around too much without any real definition. There's multiple "pressures" acting on a structure during the cyclone.

The first one I think that comes to mind for people is the actual pressure drop of the system as it crosses over. This pressure drop sounds significant in hPa, but realistically even if you managed a cyclone with a core pressure of 950hPa, that equates to a pressure drop of about 1PSI, which is usually spread over 1-2 hours. That's nothing, even if the structure was completely sealed I don't see that causing an issue. This pressure in a house will easily equalize even with everything shut.

The next one would be pressure caused by wind hitting the structure itself. In this case, obviously the side(s) the wind is hitting will be higher pressure, and the opposing sides will be at lower pressure. Opening windows on the side opposite to the wind will cause the pressure in your house to be lower, and opening the ones facing the wind will cause it to be higher. If you open the windows facing into the wind, then your back wall might blow out because of the higher pressure relative to the back side of the wall. If you open a window on the opposite side to the wind, suddenly the pressure on the inside of the front wall is lower, so now your front wall blows in.

The only advantage I could think of would be leaving everything open in an attempt to minimize wind resistance across the structure .. but obviously that won't really solve any of your problems smile

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#1344444 - 21/10/2015 00:37 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
Things Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2009
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Loc: Blair Athol, SA
And because I missed the edit timeout, a very basic graphic I whipped up that would show what pressures do in each scenario:


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#1344447 - 21/10/2015 00:50 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
ColdFront Offline
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Registered: 29/06/2008
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Like I said, it was a real account from one of the most genuine people I have had the pleasure of knowing so I have no reason to discount what he says. After all he went through it. As previously mentioned there were others who backed up his claims.

I reckon if I was watching my walls and ceiling bow in and out I'd be trying something too. I spoke to a client in Tully who claims to have had a similar experience during Yasi. They can't all be liars.
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#1344448 - 21/10/2015 01:01 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: ColdFront]
Things Offline
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Registered: 29/11/2009
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Loc: Blair Athol, SA
Originally Posted By: ColdFront
Like I said, it was a real account from one of the most genuine people I have had the pleasure of knowing so I have no reason to discount what he says. After all he went through it. As previously mentioned there were others who backed up his claims.


Wasn't directed at you specifically, just for those that might have wanted the reasoning behind it not being a good idea smile

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#1344452 - 21/10/2015 08:05 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
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The thing is, your mate will never really know if it did save his house.

What you can guarantee though is its just gonna blow leaves and water all through your house.

Thats your opinion though and I respect that, i just think if your house is gonna go, opening a window wont save it.
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#1344457 - 21/10/2015 09:11 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
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Bit off topic .In the 89 brisbane storm Our house was locked up windows locked .When i came home after the storm windows on one side all open ripped off hinges and all other windows blown open and louvers blown out .Entire house ceiling was covered in green leaves and stuff . The square ceiling entry cover was jamed between the roof sheeting and batten .Bit of an eye opener , lol now. Mother nature does what she pleases.
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#1344463 - 21/10/2015 09:45 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: Dawgggg]
ColdFront Offline
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Originally Posted By: Trav dawwggg
The thing is, your mate will never really know if it did save his house.



Just as you'll never know if it didn't. I'm going to leave it there as it is off topic .
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#1344724 - 23/10/2015 17:18 Re: Your Cyclone Emergency Kit [Re: GuyH]
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Registered: 25/02/2012
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Loc: koongal rockhampton qld
by opening windows on opposite side of your house it will make water force its way into your house through ridge capping, window drains etc, anywhere there is a pinhole on the side the wind is coming from destroying your sheeting. your sheeting inside your house may only be very small amount of bracing but it could be the last thing to hold your house together. if the sheeting is wet it will not only destroy your interior it could destroy your bracing. i personly think shut all doors and windows inside and out and it will calm you a lot from all noises outside

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