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#649637 - 09/06/2006 12:45 What camera should I get?
Adam Ant Offline
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Registered: 28/10/2003
Posts: 1075
Loc: West Toowoomba
G'day everyone,
Sometime soon I have to buy a new camera for work and I thought I would ask here for some advice on which camera to get. Basically the camera will be used for taken photos of insects, so obviously I need a camera that is able to zoom in fairly well. But that is about the extent of my knowledge when it comes to what kind of camera I need. I would like to spend about $1000. So if anyone has any suggestions I would like to hear them.
Cheers :cheers:

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#649638 - 09/06/2006 13:39 Re: What camera should I get?
Stephen-wx Offline
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Registered: 15/07/2002
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Loc: Oak Flats, Illawarra, NSW
I'd suggest a DSLR but really to get decent macros of insects you'd end up spending over the $1600 mark. I used to own a fuji finepix S7000 and it had a very mean macro mode, In that case my recommendation would be the Fuji finepix S9500. I think it has a 300mm zoom on it. Anyways have a read through the below link which is all about it.

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital/lineup/s9500/index.html

and just a demo of how good the macro mode on the S7000 was. (1 of these 2 urls should work.

http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2005/138/6/8/Stamen_feed_by_Stephen_wx.jpg

http://www.deviantart.com/view/18479623/

Stephen laugh
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#649639 - 09/06/2006 14:04 Re: What camera should I get?
Lert Offline
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Registered: 17/02/2003
Posts: 377
Loc: Duncraig
I agree with Stephen.. My Fuji 602Z does great macros and the S9500 should be better due to higher resolution..

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#649640 - 09/06/2006 14:48 Re: What camera should I get?
bigwilly Offline
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Registered: 25/09/2002
Posts: 6543
Loc: Junee - just north of the 'Bid...
Also have a look at DPReview for a test and also comparison of digi cameras.

:cheers: Will
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#649641 - 09/06/2006 17:16 Re: What camera should I get?
Stephen-wx Offline
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Yeah thats a capital idea Will, Review sites are always sweet, found some mad lenses via those kinds of sites.

Stephen :cheers:
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#649642 - 09/06/2006 17:55 Re: What camera should I get?
mick11 Offline
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Registered: 17/07/2005
Posts: 1939
Loc: carrum/Im available as a storm...
For a grand you can have anything you want almost now. Pentax DSLR is still on offer around the joint for $995.00.

You can pick almost any 10-12 x optical zoom compact digital 5mp for that amount. Most have really god macro mode capability good for insects.

I have used DSLR and compact digital for taking pics of my bees. The DSLR does a beter job as its easier to locate them and heaps easier to use the viewfinder than the lcd screen.

If your geting down low and dirty a compact would be easier to use on a mini tripod and would clean easier.

I wouldnt take the spend a grand option unless you have to. The canon A540 4 x optical 6mp is about $450.00 and would do the job pretty well if you wanted to spend the change on some other gear like tripod,lights, clear case etc.

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#649643 - 09/06/2006 19:13 Re: What camera should I get?
Adam Ant Offline
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Registered: 28/10/2003
Posts: 1075
Loc: West Toowoomba
Thanks everyone for the help, I will be doing some investigating over the next couple of weeks. The best thing about it is that my work is paying for the camera :cheers: , so spending the money is alot easier. Anyway thanks again.
Cheers

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#649644 - 11/06/2006 09:41 Re: What camera should I get?
thunder Offline
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Registered: 18/01/2003
Posts: 906
Loc: Mt Warrigal, NSW
Hi Adam

I was going to suggest a slightly older Nikon Non SLR like the 5400, this alllows you to focus within 1cm. Many of the Olympus digitals like 5050Z are similar. Hunting around you should get one for steal.

However seeing you are not paying for it I would go DSLR, problem is out of the box the DSLR kit lens is not a great macro performer. You will need to fork out another $600 - $700 for a decent macro lens. I have a Sigma 105mm Macro and it gets in really close. However this setup also brings another issue - you definately need to understand a bit about depth of field, light issues, etc. It is no longer a point and shoot issue. The non-slr was.

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#649645 - 15/06/2006 13:53 Re: What camera should I get?
Blizzard Offline
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Registered: 31/03/2001
Posts: 10344
Loc: Blue Mountains
Yes, I love my E300 Oly DSLR although its best at 400 ISO and under, which suits me anyway. The kit lense is good for what it is and suits me fine. For a $1000 budget though you need to remember the extras like a CP, good card, good tripod, spare battery and carry bag etc. Of course any camera has its limitations.

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#649646 - 15/06/2006 16:04 Re: What camera should I get?
Jake Offline
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Registered: 26/12/2004
Posts: 798
Loc: Sunshine Coast, SE QLD
Definitely go with the point and shoot like Thunder suggests, the extra depth of field offered by the smaller sensor in the P&S is exactly what you need for shooting those insects.

Say if you did stretch the budget, got a DSLR and a dedicated macro lens you'd still have to stop right down to get decent depth of field. This means high ISO or preferably a ring light or off camera flash to optain usable shutter speeds. Shallow DOF is fine for creative photography but when you're in the business of identification you want as much detail as possible.

Check out the Canon PowerShot S3 IS, reasonably priced and you can't go wrong with 6mp, an image stabilised lens and a super macro mode which will focus to 0cm.

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#649647 - 17/06/2006 11:52 Re: What camera should I get?
Adam Ant Offline
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Registered: 28/10/2003
Posts: 1075
Loc: West Toowoomba
G'day Jake, I tried to check out the Powershot S3 Is today but by the sounds they are like hens teeth! The half dozen shops I went to were all out of stock.

After I went to the shops around town, I am even more confused! It suprised me that some shops said a particular camera was crap and the other shops said it was a good camera.

Anyway a couple of cameras looked alright, the Ricoh Caplio GX8 looked alright with 8mp and 1cm macro. Also the Canon S2 IS looked pretty good too.

Any thoughts on these cameras?

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#649648 - 17/06/2006 12:17 Re: What camera should I get?
stormygirl Offline
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Registered: 21/12/2004
Posts: 4050
Loc: Melbourne, SE Burbs
Another point to remember is the difference in delay time when you have actually pressed to the button, and the camera has actually taken the photo - a problem with many point and shoots. I have a Nikon DSLR and used someone's point and shoot at a party a few weeks ago. I'd line up the shot, press the button, but the image I got was nothing like what I had lined up as the subject had moved in that time it took. If you are taking pics of insects they move quite quickly, and it may be something to consider.

It may not be a problem with any of the cameras you have been looking at (I'm not familiar with any of them), but I suggest you try before you buy with a card in it on a moving target and see what the delay time is. It could be the difference between a money shot and another one for the bin!
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#649649 - 18/06/2006 11:36 Re: What camera should I get?
ant Offline
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Registered: 05/10/2002
Posts: 9063
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
Shutter-lag is more pronounced on some digitals than others. My little Canon Elph takes great shots but the shutter lag is horrendous. The new Panasonic FZ30 is a lot quicker, but sometimes there is a bit of lag.

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