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#862395 - 08/05/2010 21:48 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Simmah]
Dave-Wx Offline
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Yeah I'm not sure what Cabramurra is...barely an anything if you ask me! lol

I guess you could call it a 'settlement' (of course depending on your definition of that :P)

But Guyra and Armidale certainly have it for their particular categories!

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#862398 - 08/05/2010 22:29 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Simmah]
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Well, as far as i am aware its officially a Settlement... How ever it promotes itself as Australia's heightest town. Guess it might be a town, it has a school, Post office, Supermarket Pub etc etc... But its for the snowy hydro workers... not sure you can freely buy/sell/build a house up there?.. I call it a settlement lol


Edited by Simmah (08/05/2010 22:38)

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#862407 - 09/05/2010 00:08 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Simmah]
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More importantly the highest pub in Queensland is in Ravenshoe and it is "The Top Pub" @ 930 metres. Oh and the reason there is so many bad drivers in the north is because they have moved here CF wink


Edited by Sir BoabTree (09/05/2010 00:09)
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#862525 - 10/05/2010 07:55 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Simmah]
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Originally Posted By: Simmah
Again, ill re iterate my point.. Why make it a subjective process when the wiki page i've linked to are the OFFICIAL cities in Australia. We can sit here and discuss/debate one another as to what is a town or city, but at the end of the day, towns we might conclude are cities and vise versa really mean diddly squat because they are not official in any sense of the word...

What is clear though, The highest city in Australia is Armidale followed closely by lithgow.

When we move on to towns and settlements, then officially the highest settlement in Australia as Cabramurra... but the city/town/settlement is another discussion all together.

EDIT.. Found this linky for the highest in Australia... But they've included villages too.... http://maps.bonzle.com/c/a?a=f&sc=h&st=0&mo=91772837&cmd=sp

Simon


Simmah, i am glad you re-iterated your point! Quiet a bit of conjecture here about where should or shouldnt qualify as a city. If you classified solely on population then by a world Standard our highest city would probably be Canberra and that would only just squeak through, nowhere else would make it onto the list at all i think.


This thread was started because i commented on the fact that i didnt know that Armidale was Australias highest city,An interesting fact.
You could argue for days as to whether it really is justifiable to call Armidale a city or not.It is classified as a city and that is all that matters i spose.
Armidale is followed by Lithgow as 2nd highest city in Australia.


BTW if Cabramurra is not Australias highest TOWN then what is????


Edited by avalon (10/05/2010 07:58)

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#862534 - 10/05/2010 08:51 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Dr Philosophy]
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Originally Posted By: Dr Philosophy
Thanks to the recent discussion in the "NSW/ACT day to day weather" thread, here's the list of 10 highest cities in Australia, in terms of elevation.

I've already posted the top 10 in the aforementioned thread, but after a confusion has been solved on whether Lithgow in NSW is a city or not, as well as the fact that I've left 1 city from another territory out, here's the updated & more correct list:

1. Armidale, NSW (980m)
2. Orange, NSW (860m)
3. Bathurst, NSW (670m)
4. Goulburn, NSW (640m)
5. Toowoomba, QLD (600m)
6. Canberra, ACT/Queanbeyan, NSW (580m)
6. Alice Springs, NT (580m)
8. Ballarat, VIC (450m)
9. Tamworth, NSW (400m)
10. Kalgoorlie, WA (380m)

In my original list, I listed Toowoomba as having an elevation of 700m above sea level. But after looking at the elevation of Toowoomba CBD on Google Earth, it is actually 600m above sea level. Also, Canberra & Queanbeyan is counted as one on the amended list.


That 600m would have to be the lowest point in toowoomba, maybe at the bottom of a creek! The airport on the western side is at 641m and my missus place is at 680m which is located in town. I think picnic point on the eastern side is at 690m. Mt Kynoch which is in toowoomba city is at 739m

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#862540 - 10/05/2010 09:35 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Adam Ant]
avalon Offline
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And Simmahs bonzle link lists Mount Victoria as being higher than Blackheath?
Does anyone know if there is a standard location for measuring a town or cities elevation? like at the post office or town hall?


Edited by avalon (10/05/2010 09:35)

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#862600 - 10/05/2010 18:09 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: avalon]
Simmah Offline
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It used to be the GPO in the town/city that marks the "centre" of it, probably because a post office is/was the only government office in the town? ... Though, these days im not too sure... Most towns Post offices would be in different areas to the original GPO years back, and probably part of a mixed service facility like a general store instead of a stand alone entity. towns of years gone by would still use the GPO site as the town marker...

Im sure Cities, though highly built up where the GPO is/was still use the GPO site as the official site, but most people refer to the centre of the city (such as Canberra) as the CBD... I recall the Canberra UDB road maps of years back used to have an arrow pointing to the GPO rather then the CBD.

EDIT: Just done some quick reading (the page is still loading lol) that also says, Historically the distance between 2 towns/cites is measured from GPO to GPO... wink


Edited by Simmah (10/05/2010 18:10)

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#862608 - 10/05/2010 19:12 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Simmah]
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Yeah, in Brisbane every time you go past the GPO you can see a plaque thing that has the distance to all the other capital city GPO's and in what direction.

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#862622 - 10/05/2010 21:00 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: Xavo]
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Google Earth is very accurate, I can assure you of that as I work in the Geospatial industry and understand how GIS works and how the Google earth data is compiled and displayed. The elevation data consists of a grid network of 3D points with x,y,z coordinates which has been obtained by photogrammetry or field survey, z= height. This information is displayed as a mathematically interpolated surface and the rest of the data, i.e. aerial photography, roads, satellite etc. is overlaid onto this surface.

If you go into Google Earth, zoom in and place the cursor in the centre of a town or city, whether that is the GPO or whatever it is, the elevation value that comes up is accurate to within a metre or so I'd say. I'm not sure where the Bonzle site gets it's data from but some of it is inaccurate.

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#862667 - 11/05/2010 07:24 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: ColdsnapIII]
avalon Offline
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Loc: Mt Macedon Vic 870m elev
A lot of it is innaccurate, in fact they need to re-do their list! Not to mention that there is not one Dandenong ranges town or village on the Victorian top 50?
Good to know that the Google Earth elevations are close to accurate. It certainly is when i look at my place at Mt Macedon.
Based on that Bonzle list of top 50 Victorian towns and villages i think a can say that at 865m elevation i have (away from the alpine areas) the highest house in a town or village in Victoria,Woo hoo!


Edited by avalon (11/05/2010 07:26)

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#862690 - 11/05/2010 08:54 Re: The 10 Highest Cities in Australia - in terms of elevation [Re: avalon]
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Maybe I'm missing something here but why a thread on highest cities in the first place?

Australia is one of the oldest geologically speaking continents on the planet which means all our mountain ranges are nothing but massively eroded stumps and we can't claim much in the way of height to start with.

Our highest mountain is little more than a semi decent hill which any semi fit 80 year old can walk up without too much trouble.

(And for the record Townsville was declared a City in 1903 and our old GPO had a height of about <=4 metres above sea level and we have 2 cathedrals.)
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