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#871202 - 6/07/2010 19:54 Charcoal
Cattle-ist Weather Freak Registered: 25/03/2008 Loc: Liston , Wylie Creek	Does enyone have experience in manufacturing charcoal ? I just did an amazing course called "Technology of Growing Grass" run by Grazing Bestprac . It went on to explain the benefits of growing grass and grazing it rotationally , with the grass sequestering carbon in the process . To hasten the carbon impact in pastures I put forward the idea of adding charcoal or Biochar , incorporating it in liquid form when "pasture cropping" Any thoughts ?
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#873747 - 27/07/2010 13:35 Re: Charcoal [Re: Cattle-ist]
FNQ Bunyip Weather Freak Registered: 31/12/2004 Loc: North bank river Daintree	linky to charcoal in charleville don't know if its any help but I remember the story ... _________________________ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...;hl=en_US#gid=0 2012 YTD 2835mm
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#873835 - 27/07/2010 21:51 Re: Charcoal [Re: FNQ Bunyip]
Cattle-ist Weather Freak Registered: 25/03/2008 Loc: Liston , Wylie Creek	thanks for that , I`ve been chatting to her already . Their methods have changed I believe to a more user friendly high tech pyrolizing machine . I`ve also been chatting to a builder of this type of machine but they are out of the range of my budget . Always needing to hear about more ideas
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#873840 - 27/07/2010 23:00 Re: Charcoal [Re: Cattle-ist]
adon Weatherzone Addict Registered: 19/08/2004 Loc: Not tellin!	Be careful in adding charcoal in large amounts to you soils. Do trials before having a full on go. Works best in acidic soils from what I have been told. Also be aware of what is the biochar being made from. Does it have any contaminants??? can get into your soils. Not a bad thing but just be aware if it is safe and will do you soils good before going full steam ahead. Edited by adon (27/07/2010 23:07)
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#874925 - 2/08/2010 20:22 Re: Charcoal [Re: adon]
Cattle-ist Weather Freak Registered: 25/03/2008 Loc: Liston , Wylie Creek	The mail I`ve seen is that "yes" charcoal IS alkaline 8-8.7 . With the addition of 'wood vinegar' ( an extract from the gasses released ) when added back to the charcoal to quench/cool it , has the benefits of adjusting the ph back towards tolerable. I do understand you have to be careful with the materials used when making charcoal and is why I intend to make what charcoal I can on-farm by utilizing regrowth (seasoned/cut for a year or so). Jumping in and buying the mega-bucks machinery will have to wait . I have a source of charcoal/biochar but transport would be a killer .
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#874934 - 2/08/2010 21:15 Re: Charcoal [Re: Cattle-ist]
ant Meteorological Motor Mouth Registered: 5/10/2002 Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m	Charcoal would be alkaline. Ash certainly is, you can use it as the lye in making soap. I throw my ash and charcoal from the heater out on where I'm establishign lawn, as the shaley ground here is very acid. Most arid soils tend to be acid.
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#875548 - 7/08/2010 18:12 Re: Charcoal [Re: ant]
adon Weatherzone Addict Registered: 19/08/2004 Loc: Not tellin!	Our soils here are alkaline so it doesn't work. Ant I think that soils in dry areas are more likley to be alkaline rather than acidic but will look into that more. I tried a small patch of charcoal in a crop last year and well the charcoal did no harm but certainly no good either. I think that it may take more time to let the charcoal do it's thing but it would have to be a visual effect for me to worry about it again.
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#876621 - 11/08/2010 17:35 Re: Charcoal [Re: adon]
Cattle-ist Weather Freak Registered: 25/03/2008 Loc: Liston , Wylie Creek	What works in charcoals favour is that it has the ability to store nutrients in a way more available to the plants , rather than let it be locked up in the sub-soil .
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