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#877974 - 19/08/2010 23:58 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: lookin]
lookin Offline
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Registered: 19/01/2008
Posts: 292
Loc: tweed heads
shummy ,you vote for who you think will be the best government.I dont think anyone should tell you which one is right for you.Just dont waste your vote it is important. Cheers

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#877975 - 19/08/2010 23:59 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: lookin]
ant Offline
Meteorological Motor Mouth

Registered: 05/10/2002
Posts: 9063
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
The Liberals have always disliked Medicare (and the PBS) as it disrupts the sacred market. If you wnat to have some fun, get some medication you buy for $33 or whatever it is, and do a google search for how much it costs in the US. And then have a think about it.

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#877978 - 20/08/2010 00:40 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Helen]
Dave-Wx Offline
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Registered: 27/08/2001
Posts: 4950
Loc: Heritage Park, Brisbane, QLD
Originally Posted By: Helen
Dredging up the broadband issue, both governments are touting this speed and that speed for their national broadband schemes, but what's the point if you don't have the bandwidth to match? Those stuck on Bigpond wireless, like myself, get a max of 10Gb, so incredible speeds are not really going to make a big difference, when it all runs out quicker. frown


I think thats more a Telstra business problem, rather than a 'Telstra government' problem...as the business itself would set the data limits (and Telstra is probably the slowest out of all ISPs to slowly reach out from our prehistoric download limits)

I would think that download limits will slowly increase over the next 5 or so years to such an extent that they aren't quite as much of a problem as they used to be by the time whichever broadband rollout is done.

I remember 1 gig of Bigpond wireless cost a helluva lot more a few years ago than it does today...so they are slowly but steadily getting there!

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#877990 - 20/08/2010 08:04 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: !SCHUMMY!]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
Originally Posted By: !SCHUMMY!
talking crap as in dont vote for them or
talking crap as in not true?

i still havent decided who im voting for either

CRAP as in untrue.

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#877993 - 20/08/2010 08:20 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
bigwilly Offline
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Registered: 25/09/2002
Posts: 6543
Loc: Junee - just north of the 'Bid...
I wouldn't say it is completely untrue (the fishing issue). What is untrue is that if the Greens get any power that recreational fishing across Australia will be banned.

However the Greens make no secrets about their dislike of groups who take from the environment (hunters and fishers mainly) and even though there mightn't be an outright ban of rec. fishing, things like expansions of Marine Parks (not based on the science) only start the rot, they're the foot in the door the Greens need to begin targeting rec. fishers. They've done it with hunters and shooters, they've done it with industry and they want to do it to fishers.

All of this (particularly the fishing and hunting) is pretty ironic, given the environmental benefit that surrounds the harvesting of feral/exotic animals and fish. I've still got maybe 15kg of venison in the freezer; in the first instance I removed an exotic animal from the environment and secondly it has a minimal carbon footprint with only about 300 food kilometres as opposed to commercial meat which can have up to 1000 if you buy it locally and 10s of thousands if its from overseas.
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#877996 - 20/08/2010 08:30 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: bigwilly]
Keith Offline
Meteorological Motor Mouth

Registered: 16/12/2001
Posts: 6453
Loc: Kings Langley, NSW
This is a good link to help people decide their own preferences in the Lower House. It lists all the candidates by state/seat, and who they represent.

If you get a 'how-to vote' flier you can easily change the 'party line' and write down your own preferences to take to the polling booth.

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#877997 - 20/08/2010 08:36 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Keith]
Keith Offline
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Registered: 16/12/2001
Posts: 6453
Loc: Kings Langley, NSW
Schummy, you must make up your own mind. Don't let politicians or the views of others dictate the terms. Take into account what they say, then evaluate them. You only get one vote. The link in my post immediately above should help.

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#877999 - 20/08/2010 08:52 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Keith]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
If you are worried about the Greens policies then put them last.

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#878000 - 20/08/2010 08:54 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
MikeM Offline
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Registered: 25/03/2002
Posts: 1834
Loc: brisbane
i'll be putting all of them last, no one is worth voting for this year. They all think they are just it.

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#878001 - 20/08/2010 08:55 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Keith]
adam17 Offline
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 3268
Loc: Townsville - Queensland
There was a good list in Today's local paper in their election coverage section, it tabled the list of "promises" from Labor and Liberal for caparison, it sets out that Labor is promising more than the Liberals, however, if history is anything to go by, Labor Promised a lot of things last election, and delivered very little, one more day to go. One more day.. Can't wait till its over. I was watching a little bit of Insight on SBS2 last night - well as best that I could given the cloud cover interrupting my Digital Signal, and the general consensus is that both parties have not brought anything significant to the table, for fear of being able to actually deliver, and as we've seen the cam pain over the last few weeks has been based on negativity, sadly much like the USA, this works, but it was also pointed out that a Victory by either party isn't going to be as glamorous because of the way the campaigns were operated.

States like WA, NT, SA and Tasmiania have been left out almost completely because the major marginal seats resides in QLD and NSW, from where we are seated, we stand to win either way, any money spent up this way would be welcomed with open arms. The only question is, who to vote for, I suspect that Liberal will come out ahead, as there is still alot of bitterness on Gillard coup.


Edited by Adamēc (20/08/2010 09:02)

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#878004 - 20/08/2010 09:06 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: adam17]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
And Labor delivered very little,Thats absolute CRAP mate.

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#878006 - 20/08/2010 09:13 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
adam17 Offline
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 3268
Loc: Townsville - Queensland
Well, they delivered NBN to a couple of homes and businesses, a few house fires etc.. Oh.. we got a few new boats too. smile

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#878007 - 20/08/2010 09:20 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
Helen Offline
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Registered: 07/11/2001
Posts: 9678
Loc: Mid North, SA
There's a good piece from Garry Linnell, Editor of the Daily Telegraph: A Government that’s lost its way

He makes some very valid points which to me, doesn't appear to be biased.

If the Liberals do happen to snare the win, then Labor, if they play their cards right, could be a real force to be reckoned with at the next election.

Keith, thanks for that link, now I know who the local Labor candidate is, even though this area has not heard "boo" from him... not even a poster on a power pole!!!
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#878008 - 20/08/2010 09:23 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
Andy Double U Offline
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Registered: 28/10/2006
Posts: 1829
Loc: Mundoolun, SE QLD, 129m ASL
Originally Posted By: Cheers
And Labor delivered very little,Thats absolute CRAP mate.


Labor's first election term... FAIL!

Here are some extracts from Rudd's launch speech of 2007: "We will establish a Petrol Price Commissioner and a national inquiry into grocery prices ... establish Australia's first national emissions trading scheme ... build a state of the art, fibre optic to the node, National Broadband Network ... GP SuperClinics around Australia ... providing for every Australian secondary school student in years 9 to 12 with access to their own computer at school."

And there was this knock-out line: "I am saying loud and clear that this sort of reckless spending must stop."

So how did all that work out?

FuelWatch? Dropped.

Grocery Watch? Scrapped.

Emissions trading? Shelved.

Broadband? A $4.7 billion promise in 2007 has blown into a $43 billion scheme today.

SuperClinics? Just three built.

Computers in schools? Delayed, and the overall cost now doubled to $2 billion.

How about that "reckless spending" that would stop?

Panicked by the recession that never hit, Labor spent $1.5 billion on shoddy "free" insulation, and now, with about 200 houses burnt, must spend up to $1 billion to pull it out or make it safe.

It's also spending $16 billion on a school building scheme so colossally rorted that between $2 billion and $6 billion has been wasted.


Oh and we shouldn't forget about the health promise, you know the one where Rudd promised to wrestle control of the health system away from the states, but somehow paid over another $2 billion and still didn't get it... How does that work!?

Fact - Labor completely bungled its first term. What makes anyone think another one would be any better with the same captains at the wheel? Swan needs to go, dummy spitting Rudd in a front bench position will destabilise the party. Roxon is a point scorer pure and simple, I haven't seen a decent policy yet. Gillard is the best performer and has done OK, but is still responsible for a horribly rorted BER scheme.

Re: The Greens and Recreational Fishing.

The Greens aren't out to ban Recreational Fishing per se`. What they are doing however is closing off areas which are worth fishing. In Moreton Bay they say they have only closed off a small percentage of it whilst leaving other areas open. Fishing in those areas is like hunting in the desert. You're not going to find much, if anything. It's a policy to discourage recreational fishing and it will hurt the industry, but business sense has never been a Green's strong point. Stuffing up real environments with ideological policies is their strong suit...

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#878010 - 20/08/2010 09:32 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: adam17]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
AND lets not forget what Tony NUTTER Abbort has done:
A big,very big supporter of work NO choices
Put S*%T on the late great Bernie Banton.
Was involved big time in putting Pauline Hanson in prison.
(I wasn't a supporter of PH but it was very dirty)
He made a big deal about a child that ended up not being his.(WHAT A FOOL)
Was going to become a priest-The MAD MONK.
The truth of the matter is he is just a big wanker.


Edited by Cheers (20/08/2010 09:34)

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#878013 - 20/08/2010 09:45 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
Andy Double U Offline
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Registered: 28/10/2006
Posts: 1829
Loc: Mundoolun, SE QLD, 129m ASL
Originally Posted By: Cheers
AND lets not forget what Tony NUTTER Abbort has done:
A big,very big supporter of work NO choices
Put S*%T on the late great Bernie Banton.
Was involved big time in putting Pauline Hanson in prison.
(I wasn't a supporter of PH but it was very dirty)
He made a big deal about a child that ended up not being his.(WHAT A FOOL)
Was going to become a priest-The MAD MONK.
The truth of the matter is he is just a big wanker.


Now now Cheers, you and I both know that you are grabbing a lot of straws there. All of your 'points' are nullified by the fact it is the party who chooses the leader. If you think the Coalition is going to let Tony walk all over them with his more extreme views then you've got another thing coming. Remember it was only six weeks ago that Kevin Rudd was the Prime Minister of this country and Labor axed him because they knew he wasn't going to be able to deliver them back into power... My only regret, not seeing him booted from office by the public, but by greedy, power hungry, faceless Labor party power brokers. Such a shame...

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#878014 - 20/08/2010 09:49 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Andy Double U]
ant Offline
Meteorological Motor Mouth

Registered: 05/10/2002
Posts: 9063
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
Tony Abbott often claims that he doesn't let his religious views affect his policy and decision making. And yet, when he was Health Minister, he saw to it that the abortion pill was not made available here. He did it very sneakily, too.

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#878015 - 20/08/2010 09:50 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Andy Double U]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
So you think someone like this should be PM.
You must be kidding.

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#878018 - 20/08/2010 10:02 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
The LNP has a guy(BOY) standing for the seat of Longman.
Wyatt Roy
He is 20 years old.
It's the first time he can vote in a Federal election.
You must be kidding

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#878022 - 20/08/2010 10:17 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
adam17 Offline
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 3268
Loc: Townsville - Queensland
Originally Posted By: Cheers
The LNP has a guy(BOY) standing for the seat of Longman.
Wyatt Roy
He is 20 years old.
It's the first time he can vote in a Federal election.
You must be kidding


Now now, that's age discrimination, you can be a crook, no matter how old you are.

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