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#878119 - 20/08/2010 20:32 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Arnost]
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I should also mention that fibre optics have been (for at least 5 years) laid to our exchange... it's just not been hooked up. frown
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#878129 - 20/08/2010 21:19 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: ColdFront]
ant Offline
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Registered: 05/10/2002
Posts: 9063
Loc: Overlooking ACT at 848m
Well said, Cold Front. And yes, while they "reward" the well off, they punish the poor. It's always been the Liberal way. So rich mothers get more largesse courtesy of the taxpayer, but things that help ordinary people, they'll be cut. I think it's obscene.

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#878133 - 20/08/2010 21:48 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: ColdFront]
Arnoldnut Offline
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Registered: 18/10/2006
Posts: 1559
Loc: Arnold, NthWest Vic
My brother said it for me in the Melb Age Wesburn: fringe town takes centre stage
‘They are all the same — there’s no difference between the policies'
And he is one of those having the other house in town as well as the nice house on the hill in Wesburn ....and a few investment properties ....and he ain't impressed with neither.

They have all been such a weak showing of Statemanship, if you like ....more like a footy club committee .....lets not upset anybody hey! ....all weak as the proverbial.

The Grech affair was how we ended up with Abbott ...let's not forget. Mr Abbott I won't even speak of as he makes me crawl, he and his cohorts/keepers.


Edited by Arnoldnut (20/08/2010 21:53)
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#878138 - 20/08/2010 22:41 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: ColdFront]
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Registered: 19/01/2008
Posts: 292
Loc: tweed heads
well said coldfront

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#878149 - 21/08/2010 00:07 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: lookin]
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
I can't understand why people would vote for Abbort.
He and the LNP party are such silver spoon low life scum.
Most of us are workers & don't forget that.
It's funny how you get people who act like they were born silver spoons in the mouth
but were born with plastic spoons.
They forget were they come from & how they got to were they they are.
They don't care about anyone else'
Even their kids or grand kids.
They are so far up them selves it's not funny.
Don't let this silver tail get in.
Your kids & grandkids will thank you for it.
It will mean that you are not a low life like the others who vote for him.
Think about your kids & or grand kids.
At lest you owe them that.

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#878150 - 21/08/2010 00:47 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
Seabreeze Offline
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Registered: 18/09/2005
Posts: 10670
Loc: SWR
Originally Posted By: Cheers
I can't understand why people would vote for Abbort.
He and the LNP party are such silver spoon low life scum.
Most of us are workers & don't forget that.
It's funny how you get people who act like they were born silver spoons in the mouth
but were born with plastic spoons.
They forget were they come from & how they got to were they they are.
They don't care about anyone else'
Even their kids or grand kids.
They are so far up them selves it's not funny.
Don't let this silver tail get in.
Your kids & grandkids will thank you for it.
It will mean that you are not a low life like the others who vote for him.
Think about your kids & or grand kids.
At lest you owe them that.

Abbott wink
As for the rest of the post, especially the last half, very judgmental and irrational.......


Edited by Freeze (21/08/2010 00:47)

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#878160 - 21/08/2010 07:34 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Seabreeze]
Cheers Offline
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Registered: 26/05/2007
Posts: 1117
Loc: sevenhills nsw
Originally Posted By: Freeze
Originally Posted By: Cheers
I can't understand why people would vote for Abbort.
He and the LNP party are such silver spoon low life scum.
Most of us are workers & don't forget that.
It's funny how you get people who act like they were born silver spoons in the mouth
but were born with plastic spoons.
They forget were they come from & how they got to were they they are.
They don't care about anyone else'
Even their kids or grand kids.
They are so far up them selves it's not funny.
Don't let this silver tail get in.
Your kids & grandkids will thank you for it.
It will mean that you are not a low life like the others who vote for him.
Think about your kids & or grand kids.
At lest you owe them that.

Abbott wink
As for the rest of the post, especially the last half, very judgmental and irrational.......

No'no'no it's just the truth

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#878162 - 21/08/2010 07:36 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Registered: 18/10/2006
Posts: 1559
Loc: Arnold, NthWest Vic
here is the fly in the ointment with Abbott
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/08/2976836.htm?section=justin
Everyone nmay think it sour grapes with me but australia doesn't need our social welfare run by catholic orgs.
they have a huge grasp on our schools and welfare systems and use that system to conceal their own shortcomings.
I'm one who wishes to take centaCare to supreme court for this but the justice system is to gutless.
And that is the problem we have .....Abbott get's in it will be worse.
Sorry couldn't let it go without saying something ...we have enough islamic terrorism from without .....we don't need this christian terrorism within our system. They need to be gone if our social welfare system is to come of age.




Edited by Arnoldnut (21/08/2010 07:36)
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#878163 - 21/08/2010 07:44 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Arnoldnut]
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Registered: 18/10/2006
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Loc: Arnold, NthWest Vic
As for election day itself ....I couldn't ask for better.
Woke at 7am to find my wife has already left to do her bit as a polling officer /whatever.
Sheindoors won't be back 'til at least 9:30 tonite ....heeehaaa!
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#878167 - 21/08/2010 08:40 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Cheers]
lizzie Offline
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Registered: 02/09/2006
Posts: 700
Loc: Morpeth, Lower Hunter Valley.....
Originally Posted By: Cheers
I can't understand why people would vote for Abbort.
He and the LNP party are such silver spoon low life scum.
Most of us are workers & don't forget that.
It's funny how you get people who act like they were born silver spoons in the mouth
but were born with plastic spoons.
They forget were they come from & how they got to were they they are.
They don't care about anyone else'
Even their kids or grand kids.
They are so far up them selves it's not funny.
Don't let this silver tail get in.
Your kids & grandkids will thank you for it.
It will mean that you are not a low life like the others who vote for him.
Think about your kids & or grand kids.
At lest you owe them that.


It's fine that you can't understand why people would vote for Abbott...some can't understand why others will vote for Gillard..
...but that statement to me, is a trifle offensive, and very sweeping.

It suggests that anyone of 'means' is uncaring and undeserving of their achievement and wealth. Sure, some people are simply born into it and others achieve it off the backs and hardwork of others...but how about the ones who actually work for it? The ones who don't sit back and expect others to provide for them instead of making an effort?
Do you begrudge say, a Doctor a Lawyer an Engineer, for their (relative) wealth? They train, study and work hard to achieve it.
Where anyone 'comes from' should have no bearing on their ability to think and consider their own vote.


To claim that they 'don't even care about their own kids', is frankly, outrages. All these politicians, from any side, are still people, just normal people with families when they go home.
One could say that at least they are standing up for what they believe in rather than just sitting back whinging.

I will never get everyone to agree wih how I vote, and my political thinking...what I do wish for, however, is that everyone actually thinks about their vote.
To say I vote a particular way because my parents do, or I vote this way 'because of where I come from', to me is a waste if it has not been carefully considered.

So today I will go and quite proudly place my vote...and Cheers...if that makes me 'a low life '...

So be it.


Edited by lizzie (21/08/2010 08:44)

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#878170 - 21/08/2010 08:47 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: lizzie]
Arnoldnut Offline
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Registered: 18/10/2006
Posts: 1559
Loc: Arnold, NthWest Vic
I've used that "Don't care about our kids!" often when arguing about this economy based on land/house values.
"Leaving the debt to our kids!" is maybe what is meant there ....is with me anyway.


Edited by Arnoldnut (21/08/2010 08:48)
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#878171 - 21/08/2010 08:50 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Arnoldnut]
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Registered: 15/04/2009
Posts: 2787
Loc: Townsville
The Herbert Electorate has had both leaders here like 10 times, most spending promises in any electorate and is one of the closest run races yet there is a sense of nobody care. No one gives a stuff and its the same almost everywhere (cept in these forums wink ).
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#878175 - 21/08/2010 08:54 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Arnoldnut]
lizzie Offline
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Registered: 02/09/2006
Posts: 700
Loc: Morpeth, Lower Hunter Valley.....
Originally Posted By: Arnoldnut
I've used that "Don't care about our kids!" often when arguing about this economy based on land/house values.
"Leaving the debt to our kids!" is maybe what is meant there ....is with me anyway.


Very true Mike...
But which party will not leave any debt?
The way in which our society is heading, with the ever increasing demands and expectations, that costs...

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#878178 - 21/08/2010 09:06 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: lizzie]
Arnoldnut Offline
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Registered: 18/10/2006
Posts: 1559
Loc: Arnold, NthWest Vic
Greece is learning it's lessons on greed and long term govt corruption ....be it systemic in their case.
The yanks go into a japanese style recovery and we will still sit on our hands.
We need to loose this blurred vision of the world ...I see the penny is starting to drop about a few things....not least sustainable population.
Sustainable population doesn't work with this pyramid/ponzi system we call our economy ....I think everyone can understand that.
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#878195 - 21/08/2010 10:49 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Arnoldnut]
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Registered: 18/09/2005
Posts: 10670
Loc: SWR
I've done my part for today. smile Hopefully, after today Abbott will be PM.
I also decided to number all 84 boxes on the Senate ballot. Was starting to regret that decision at around 50, lol, but I completed it.

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#878196 - 21/08/2010 10:59 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Seabreeze]
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Registered: 16/12/2001
Posts: 6453
Loc: Kings Langley, NSW
I'm not sure that I understood preferences in the Senate enough to know how numbering each box would work so I just numbered above the line..and I was in a hurry (sort of) anyway. I thought there'd be a queue a mile long but not so.

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#878198 - 21/08/2010 11:11 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Keith]
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Registered: 07/02/2007
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Well the green form had 4 choices Liberal, Labour, Family First, Greens so it went in the box marked but I had to think long and hard and the libs ended up with my vote as the lesser of 4 evils. But the big white one had a one mark in the Fishing and Lifestyle Party. Last election we managed 10% of the vote in Herbet so this time I am hoping we at least double that and send a strong message to the Greens to keep their bloody hands off the GBR or there will be trouble. I still firmly believe that the Greens have a place helping Australia - at about 10 to the acre and 6foot down in really poor country.
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#878203 - 21/08/2010 12:04 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: Seabreeze]
lizzie Offline
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Registered: 02/09/2006
Posts: 700
Loc: Morpeth, Lower Hunter Valley.....
Originally Posted By: Freeze
I've done my part for today. smile Hopefully, after today Abbott will be PM.
I also decided to number all 84 boxes on the Senate ballot. Was starting to regret that decision at around 50, lol, but I completed it.


Me too Ezz!

I must have stood there for half an hour...even one of the Polling Officers wandered over to see if I needed any help!

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#878216 - 21/08/2010 14:40 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: lizzie]
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Registered: 23/09/2001
Posts: 5236
Loc: Bellingen NSW 2454
Voted Green and proud smile A voice of sanity in a corrupt political system.

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#878218 - 21/08/2010 15:01 Re: Australian Federal Election 2010 [Re: KevD]
AaronD Offline
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Registered: 27/12/2007
Posts: 1017
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
me too BNE smile

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