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#882271 - 09/09/2010 16:19 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Ben Sandilands]
Keith Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ben Sandilands
Keith,

It hardly matters if they shoot themselves or go to jail. The glaciers continue to retreat, and the snows recede in Australia, and the extent of winters on the prairies continues to shorten.

What could it be? Nasty wicked people, or something to do with the climate?


Nasty, wicked people, Ben. Their agendas have nothing to do with climate change.

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#882314 - 09/09/2010 20:51 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Keith]
Ben Sandilands Offline
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In that case they are irrelevant.

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#882368 - 10/09/2010 07:25 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Ben Sandilands]
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Hmmmmmm Sounds interesting....

A TERRIFYING LOOK AT THE CONTROL OF WEATHER WARFARE -- A LOOK AT HAARP

The idea behind Weather Control is simple, when you think about it simply. When you see and experience a strong thunderstorm, with a lot of lightening and thunder, what fact about this storm strikes you the most? Are you not impressed by the powerful display of energy that you witness? Energy is the primary ingredient behind nature's storms. Therefore, you must believe that, just perhaps, if energy is the most dominant outward factor in all kinds of storms, then energy might be the key factor in creating such storms in the first place.

ENERGY ENERGY ENERGY ENERGY ENERGY ENERGY

So, you ask, how much energy is required to create, and then direct, storms? The answer to that question depends upon many factors, but let us tell you how much capability has been built into the newly created power transmission station in remote Alaska. These power transmission towers are not your typical towers, as they are designed to generate power in such a way that it is beamed up into the ionosphere in tremendous quantities.

"The $30 million [Pentagon] project, euphemistically named HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program), is made to beam more than 1.7 gigawatts (billion watts) of radiated power into the ionosphere -- the electrically charged layer above Earth's atmosphere. Put simply, the apparatus is a reversal of a radio telescope -- just transmitting instead of receiving. It will 'boil the upper atmosphere'. After [heating] and disturbing the ionosphere, the radiations will bounce back onto the earth in for form of long waves which penetrate our bodies, the ground and the oceans."

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1207.cfm

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#882374 - 10/09/2010 08:22 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Simmosturf]
davidg Offline
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Also from the same page:

Quote:

"However, we also know that the Book of Revelation foretells unprecedented destruction that God either directs or allows, that "destroys the sinners out of the land" [Isaiah 13:9-13]. God judges wicked man at the same time as He is cleansing the earth to prepare for the arrival of Jesus Christ to begin His Millennial reign.

We are very interested in the fact that many of the "lying signs and wonders" of the Antichrist can be staged by the technology of HAARP. Further, many of the physical acts of judgment contained in the Book of Revelation, and parallel passages in the Major and Minor prophets, can be created by this HAARP technology."


Talk about taking an idea and running with it.


Edited by davidg (10/09/2010 08:23)

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#882380 - 10/09/2010 09:20 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: davidg]
bd bucketingdown Offline
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HAARP is already affecting here in Australia making BOM radars make circles...it is too late now!!! Other examples of HAARP in action here!!! Take it or leave it...Ripleys: "Believe it or not!!!" ....I have not looked at the other examples shown here, happy reading!
(And apart from the fact that radar signals do just that(ie. show circles) on occasions due to inversions, etc having operated one myself quite a few times!!!)

http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Radar-Circle-Australia-2010-0116.html
http://www.colinandrews.net/HAARP-2.html


Edited by Bucketing Down(BD) (10/09/2010 09:20)

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#882382 - 10/09/2010 09:31 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: bd bucketingdown]
bd bucketingdown Offline
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwDxdIRUvNs
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread559069/pg1
The HAARP Australian effects run with it goes on and on if you google!!!Way out!!!
Talk about active imaginations!!! (Though there is a treaty ou against weather change technology in warfare current I believe)


Edited by Bucketing Down(BD) (10/09/2010 09:35)

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#883534 - 16/09/2010 09:53 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: bd bucketingdown]
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Someone emailed me this article link today, thought I'd post it:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opi...o-1225921441996

Talks about the bias of the ABC on GW issues. I guess they are biased like we all are.



Edited by Blizzard (16/09/2010 09:54)
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#883647 - 17/09/2010 07:06 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Blizzard]
Simmosturf Offline
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UN scientists say ozone layer depletion has stopped

The protective ozone layer in the earth's upper atmosphere has stopped thinning and should largely be restored by mid-century thanks to a ban on harmful chemicals, UN scientists said.

The Scientific Assessment of Ozone Depletion 2010 report said a 1987 international treaty that phased out chlorofluorocarbons (CFC) - substances used in refrigerators, aerosol sprays and some packing foams - had been successful.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/17/3014206.htm

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#884526 - 20/09/2010 20:27 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Simmosturf]
Simmosturf Offline
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You have to be kidding right, who pays for this garbage????

Psychology provides insight into why people doubt climate change

Many people don't believe in global warming because everyday life may have trained them to doubt it, according to a new University of NSW study that brings together climate science and cognitive psychology.

As the physical science underpinning human-induced climate change has grown more and more solid, more people have been growing sceptical of it, according to the paper The Psychology of Global Warming, published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. ''Simply presenting the facts and figures about global warming has failed to convince large portions of the general public, journalists and policy makers about the scale of the problem and the urgency of required action,'' the paper says.

''From a psychologist's perspective, this is not surprising.''

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climat...0919-15hy4.html

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#884528 - 20/09/2010 20:33 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Simmosturf]
ROM Offline
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It's Ok Simmo!

"People construct mental models which they use to judge new information, and these models are usually built only on a few fragments of information, the study said."

Alternative;

"Psychologists construct mental models which they use to judge people with, and these models are usually built only on a few fragments of information, as can be seen so obviously in this purported study".

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#884534 - 20/09/2010 20:47 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: ROM]
Seira Offline
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Originally Posted By: ROM
Alternative;

"Psychologists construct mental models which they use to judge people with, and these models are usually built only on a few fragments of information, as can be seen so obviously in this purported study".

What are you quoting - I find it quite offensive.

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#884536 - 20/09/2010 20:52 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Seira]
ROM Offline
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From the SMH article; Look it up for yourself!

Offensive like a bunch of overweening psychologists trying to tell people that they are incapable of thinking through things for themselves and are just too dumb to figure out the politically correct answer

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#884537 - 20/09/2010 20:54 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Simmosturf]
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Greenpeace Violence Is Escalating: “The Lines Are Drawn”

Greenpeace is known for breaking the law, trespassing, putting other people at risk, and chaining its members to drilling platforms to protest and, more importantly, to reap the capital of publicity. That’s one thing – but it’s quite another to recruit, psychologically manipulate, and exploit a child for the purpose waging psychological war on people who have different opinions. Greenpeace is ratcheting up the level of violence.

In the video that follows, posted by a reader at WUWT, Greenpeace instrumentalizes a hooded young boy as a propaganda pawn. The boy’s anger is clearly visible as he threatens and intimidates people with generational conflict. His expressions are militant, like those we see on tapes of crazed Islamic radicals released to publicize their threats. This is the new level of violence, directed and produced by Greenpeace.


http://notrickszone.com/2010/09/03/greenpeace-violence-is-escalating-the-lines-are-drawn/

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#884540 - 20/09/2010 20:59 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: ROM]
Seira Offline
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Originally Posted By: ROM
From the SMH article; Look it up for yourself!

Offensive like a bunch of overweening psychologists trying to tell people that they are incapable of thinking through things for themselves and are just too dumb to figure out the politically correct answer

I can see I won't be.

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#884545 - 20/09/2010 21:18 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Seira]
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Al Gore to be Sued by Over 30,000 Scientists for Global Warming Fraud?

http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2010...-warming-fraud/

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#884688 - 21/09/2010 19:41 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Simmosturf]
Simmosturf Offline
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Global Warming? No. Global Climate Disruption? Yes!

Forced to contend with the reality that global warming is not a man-made phenomenon that will ultimately result in catastrophe, President Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren has turned away from terms like “global warming” and “climate change” and has instead targeted the newest threat to the globe: “global climate disruption.”
Addressing the clear attempt at repacking an old concept under a new title, England’s Telegraph joked, “That way whether it gets warmer or colder, wetter or drier, less climatically eventful or more climatically eventful, the result will be the same: it can all be put down to ‘global climate disruption.’”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/...-disruption-yes

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#884789 - 22/09/2010 12:40 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Simmosturf]
Keith Offline
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This is from the link at the foot of the SMH page to which ROM posted a link. The link is an article that refers to a push (?putsch?) by a university students' union for 'environmental literacy':

The union hierarchy, at odds with their powerful counterparts in the ACTU and AWU, argues that emissions can only be reduced through a major restructuring of the Australian economy.

You can see what forked tongues are driving their GW agenda.




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#884869 - 23/09/2010 07:23 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Keith]
Ben Sandilands Offline
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Keith,

There is no doubt that technology and cost will drive restructuring of economies world wide on energy matters no matter what. It has been thus since steam ruined sail. Why be fearful of our children seeking 'literacy' in the consideration of science and technology by our society?

It could lessen the ignorance that is at times painfully apparent on both extremes of this issue, and allow us to gain energy independence, and participate in new products and services.

It could lessen the slandering of whole groups of our country on the basis of nebulous tags or slogans too, and bring us to what matters, the use of our powers of invention, goodwill, and the harmonious pursuit of a better world, whatever the natural climate may do to push or pull us in various directions.

I do not believe it is necessary to call people fork tongued simply because they argue the case for improved scientific literacy.

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#884882 - 23/09/2010 08:41 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Ben Sandilands]
Keith Offline
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Ben they are fork tongued because they use the GW issue to advance their political ideals. It's not for the sake of scientific literacy at all. That's the deception they are putting forth, and I don't buy it.

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#884904 - 23/09/2010 10:39 Re: Interesting news articles about AGW - Archive [Re: Keith]
Ben Sandilands Offline
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Keith,

I don't buy judgemental slogans applied to the entire student population either. Nor vague references to 'political ideals'.

Might we not prejudice a genuine attempt at student level to improve the scientific literacy of the debate?

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