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#948466 - 01/02/2011 09:28 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: TranslucidusW]
Seira Offline
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Originally Posted By: TranslucidusW
Not being in a hurray to get to the next moment is very nice for people to be around.

Being in the moment also seems like a good way to remember what you just did, so you don't forget where you put things smile .

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#949274 - 01/02/2011 16:29 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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Originally Posted By: -Cosmic- (naz)
TranslucidusW,

I don't know about this, but have you ever tried anything outside meditation e.g. yoga, dancing, etc?



Hi

I've "done" them all including time with Indian Yoga masters- in the end it all comes down to the Love/Being/Awareness that is behind everything and is what is prior to the individualised conciousness, seeing and being itself; this is an "inward journey" of investigation until it is not. It is not when only THAT is in it's own (as in there is no second) recognition. Then there is nothing that is not THAT. Minds can't understand this - what you are in truth IS however THAT.
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#958385 - 08/02/2011 16:56 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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My intention was general conversation re: last quote.

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#958839 - 09/02/2011 19:22 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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If I had a "General Conversation" I would be "white lying" at the very least (just to be kind to "general" people; one of which I suspect you are not).

When two arrows meet in mid air, they extinguish each other.

So too, successful Psychologist and Patient encounters.

Oh rats - I've done it again!
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#959006 - 10/02/2011 10:57 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: TranslucidusW]
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Okies..

i haven't abandoned ya'll..ive just been rather quiet.. smile

anyone miss me...hmmm...nar i thought not... smirk

of late ive been in a mood, well by of late, i mean for the last year, and mood i mean a socially and physically self destructive rampage, i constantly jump to conclusions, over-think, over-examine, over-react and then over-compensate for the last few "overs" and then Stress rite out about all of it, those of you that are aware of me know i am a defensive thinker, whatever the task at hand is i have a fast and thoughtful answer, quite often recently that answer is maximum overkill for the thought at hand.. eek

currently my health is taking a huge hit due to these wild fluctuations in mood, i wont use the word "depressed" because i personally dont think i am, and really life is good in general, except for the fact that im so in my own head about things i have no control over..and then i manifest those thoughts into anger... frown

the word i will consider semi appropriate for how i feel is "Stressed"...and Stressed to the point of physical discomfort and distraction is the least of the effects its having...

neither medititation or medications seem to have much effect...and i just cant seem to find the off switch...

any suggestions on what my course of action should be...and no...please dont prescribe inter-crainial lead.. that's not an option..it can prove harmful.. wink
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#959054 - 10/02/2011 14:07 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Shayne]
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I really do not think it's appropriate to give advice, even if I wanted to (present some information) smile .

It's best you see a qualified professional, even your local GP.


Edited by -Cosmic- (naz) (10/02/2011 14:09)

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#959387 - 11/02/2011 09:29 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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Hey Shane - we have missed your offerings.

I hear all that and the stress mind activity can cause. It can lead to adrenal burnout which leaves you a bit exhausted.

Isn't the mind an exquisite, instant, incisive piece of equipment.

What has helped me with the same thing is to see "Whatever you notice can't be YOU" - SO this means the mind will do its thing but that is not YOU. Developing an INDIFFERENCE to its activities and output helps, together with a Discrimination that IS a part of YOU.

ie Identify only with what needs to be identified with and just watch the crazy mind at other times without engaging any more than you can help.

It's a bit of work at first but becomes a little more automatic with time.

You are probably fairly indifferent to the gurgles in your stomach; same so with the gurgles in the mind.

It's not a disassociation - rather an active non-thinking intelligence of discrimination about what to notice.


Edited by TranslucidusW (11/02/2011 09:31)
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#959427 - 11/02/2011 12:04 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: TranslucidusW]
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valid point there Transloonatic .....but I've found to best to spell Shayne's name correctly if you want his attention wink

Too true what you say though TW .....'It's not a disassociation - rather an active non-thinking intelligence of discrimination about what to notice.!
maybe some of us need a safer place to park our brains where they aren't immersed in a mire of garbage. hard to keep you head out of it.

I have bouts of 'thinking too hard' myself Shayne ......can be dangerous to your own health. Why I play with toys that consume me when I use them ...unlike fishing. Flying model planes stops me thinking sideways ....and I come away totally relaxed and better than a full body massage ....it's brain massage just being free of the crap for a moment.

I missed ya! ;-)


Edited by Arnoldnut (11/02/2011 12:06)
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#959600 - 11/02/2011 17:51 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Arnoldnut]
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Ha. . Haaa - oops; sorry Shayne (had 3mins to write, this AM, and didn't proof read it).

Hey ArnoldN, I think you've discovered my true identity, although Transloonatic is not a cloud type!!!

Not that I would know.
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#960643 - 14/02/2011 17:04 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: TranslucidusW]
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lol...um..ive been called all sorts of things before..miss-spelling my name is the least of them...

mmm...just distracted..what was the question again?
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#962002 - 16/02/2011 22:58 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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•All-or-nothing thinking.
I can find a solution to every problem and I will die trying.
•Overgeneralisation.
All managers have personality disorders...
•Mental filter.
See no Evil, Hear no Evil...
•Disqualifying the positive.
Downplaying the negative
•Jumping to conclusions.
as opposed to testing a hypothesis
•Magnification or minimisation.
sounds like a useful tool (eg. politics)
•Emotional reasoning.
like Intuition
•Should statements
So I shouldn't?
•Labelling
creating order out of chaos? or discrimination = auto-immune response = self preservation
•and mislabelling.
indoctrination, nepotism, pack mentality, stigmatise, persecute, deny - fear
•Personalisation.
attributing responsibility to a causal factor

LOL just playing around here...

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#962054 - 17/02/2011 02:10 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Sara B]
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The one fundamental requirement for successful recovery is self-awareness. Humans are fundamentally habit forming by nature, which leads to triggers at times being adapted to via chemical adjustments within the brain, often with negative results that are difficult to reverse. The more we learn the more mechanical and less philosophical the mind becomes, definitely an interesting growth in data, just need to be caution of desensitisation.

Apart from that, I’m not entirely sure the purpose of this thread and I feel I should. :S

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#962112 - 17/02/2011 09:37 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Kevin QLD]
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Don't feel bad Kevin. I have thought from day one that this thread was a poorly disuised attempt a trolling for responses for a uni assignment.
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#962197 - 17/02/2011 13:51 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Kevin QLD]
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Originally Posted By: Kevin QLD
...I’m not entirely sure the purpose of this thread and I feel I should. :S

The thread is about general discussion of pscyhological issues in society, that's why it's general. People can discuss individual issues if they wish, but it's at their own risk, and I will not maintaining it or participating if people do choose to discuss individual concerns.

Enjoy smile.

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#962218 - 17/02/2011 14:35 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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Oh dear..an awful lot of getting inside our heads can be so ..well..whatever you like, but too much of a good thing?

As one psych said to another:'You're all right, how am I?'

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#963408 - 20/02/2011 13:05 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Keith]
Seira Offline
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Originally Posted By: Keith
Oh dear..an awful lot of getting inside our heads can be so ..well..whatever you like, but too much of a good thing?

I guess it depends on your perspective smile .

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#964503 - 21/02/2011 23:02 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Seira]
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I think this is a weird thing the effect this has on a big chunk of human beings
Anyone like to explain the psychology of this ....tribal???
I think Gene Wilder says it best at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo8fWrW_QdM&feature=related

......it can't be a pheronome thing, so must be some other inexplicable something.

Can it be treated though is the big question.
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#964542 - 22/02/2011 00:14 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Arnoldnut]
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My head is a place where even I fear to go to without the aid of some decent legal drugs - so I go to a psychairtist. I may never be cured but at least i am somewhat controlled.

So far I have not had a dream that I can rember in 3 years - which is a relief because nobody should have to put up with the crap in my head - even me.
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#964554 - 22/02/2011 00:41 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: SBT]
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Studies have shown that men predominately dream about other men - whilst women dream about men/women equally...Freud proposed we are everyone in our dreams, indicating a predisposition to dreaming about males more due to our masculinity. The obvious exception would be sexual-events.
Dreaming about women could indicate a feministic temperament.

Not remembering dreams could be several things.

1: Not reaching the REM stage of sleep
2: Poor memory retention
3: Simply lacking any relevance to warrant remembering.

For you SBT – it could be any of those, or a deliberate cognitive -amnesia resulting from your reluctance to confront or challenge your subconscious [as you explained]

Or possibly your medication.

Or magic beans...

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#964699 - 22/02/2011 10:12 Re: General Notes on Psychology! [Re: Kevin QLD]
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Like I said no one should have to see what happens inside my head. PTSD is the label they have hung on it.
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