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#1019850 - 14/10/2011 10:41 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: grumbleguts]
SBT Offline
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Sorry for the late reply but I have only just read your post Anundsjo:

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I received an email from the BOM last week saying that the TC name I requested has been put onto a supplementary list. Anyone have an idea how long it usually takes for a name to make it to the main list?

Also if a TC eventuates in Australian waters but doesn't impact on the Australian coastline (eg TC Zelia), does this mean that this TC doesn't actually get retired and it merely gets recycled?


Generally if a cyclone has had a significant impact on Australia the name will be retired. In practice most names are not reused so they don't cause confusion. Names submitted by the general public sit on the supplementary list until such times as there is a vacancy for it to be moved onto the main list. Depending how far down the supplementary list your name is it could concievably take upwards of 50 years before it is selected.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/about/names.shtml

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Requests by the public for tropical cyclone names

The Bureau of Meteorology receives many requests from the public to name Tropical Cyclones after themselves, friends, etc. The Bureau is unable to grant all these requests as they far out-number the number of Tropical Cyclones that occur in the Australian region.

The Bureau will only accept requests received in writing (not e-mail). The request cannot be immediately granted but the name will be added to a supplementary list. When a name is retired of similar gender and initial, a name can be included from this supplementary list (subject to checks to ensure it is not on the Southern Hemisphere retired name list or offensive in any of the languages of our international neighbours.)

Note that it can take many decades for a suitable slot to become available, then a further 10-20 years for the names to cycle through, so it is likely to be well over 50 years before your requested name is allocated to a cyclone.


So if we only have 2 cyclones for a couple of years it could take even longer for it to be used.
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#1022782 - 20/10/2011 11:19 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: SBT]
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New website -joint project with Govt/BoM/Greencross. Can find out specific info for your suburb as well. Apparently aimed at all residents but specifically newcomers and young people who have limited local knowledge of their area.
Cyclone preparedness

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#1033055 - 22/11/2011 00:56 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Wet Wet Wet]
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Dear All (especially newies) blush ,

I recommend that you check out Andrew's (from BoM) article (published 29/09/11). It explains in layman's terms what will happen during our weak La Nina (which has intensified quite dramatically in the last 2 weeks). It's a bit of OK writing of which I heartily approve. Also - beware of what you wish for ...

When Anthony formed last year I posted I felt in my water there was something really bad out there behind him (felt like a pantomime dame!)... Hello Yasi!

http://www.bom.gov.au/social/2011/09/chalk-cheese-cats-and-dogs/
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#1046276 - 21/12/2011 01:00 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Wet Wet Wet]
Rhubarb Offline
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Och come on people, be realistic this cyclone season! The low in the coral sea, no way it is EVER coming near the coast. Look at the wind shear for heaven's sake. Might bring us some rain in the north. The low in the Arufura sea, now that one could bring us serious rain in QLD. Please be realistic about what you post on this forum. Don't waste our time and your time and get the newies into a feeding frenzy ... just makes everything clog up! Remember CYCLONES CAN KILL, CYCLONES DESTROY PROPERTY, CYCLONES are NOT fun. Interesting to watch, fascinating to follow, but keep realistic posts this year, please.
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#1046396 - 21/12/2011 12:52 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Rhubarb]
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For visitors who want more information about how, when and where cyclone warnings are issued.



http://www.bom.gov.au/catalogue/warnings/WarningsInformation_TC_Advice.shtml
Introduction
Tropical Cyclone Advices are issued whenever a tropical cyclone is expected to cause winds in excess of 62km/h (gale force) over land in Australia*. A tropical cyclone advice may be a watch and/or a warning, depending on when and where the gales are expected to develop.


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When is a Tropical Cyclone Advice Issued?
A tropical cyclone watch is issued for coastal communities when the onset of gales is expected within 48 hours, but not within 24 hours.
A tropical cyclone warning is issued for coastal communities when the onset of gales is expected within 24 hours, or are already occurring
Each advice issued for a particular cyclone will be numbered sequentially, starting at number 1 for the first advice. A tropical cyclone advice may contain a combined watch and warning, that is it will provide information on the area under watch status and the area under warning status
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How often is a Tropical Cyclone Advice issued?
While the threat remains, a tropical cyclone advice will be issued every six hours, increasing to every three hours when cyclone warnings are required. In some circumstances, when a cyclone approaching the coast is under radar surveillance, the advices may be issued hourly.


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What information is included in the Tropical Cyclone Advice?
Each Tropical Cyclone Advice will consist of the following information:

The area covered by a cyclone watch and area covered by a cyclone warning
The cyclone name
The intensity category of the cyclone (1-weak to 5-strong)
The latest observed location of the cyclone centre
The central pressure of the cyclone (warning only)
The distance of the cyclone to significant locations
The expected or recent movement of the cyclone
Range of destructive winds
Maximum wind gusts
Advisory statements on actions to be taken to mitigate the effects of the cyclone (note this is issued separately for the NT and Kimberley)
The issue time for the next warning
Usually, each advice will have an associated threat map issued.
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Who is the target audience of Tropical Cyclone Advices?
All land based communities in the threat zone.
Note that separate marine warnings will be issued, and all mariners should refer to these warnings for relevant information.


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Where are Tropical Cyclone Advices Issued?
Tropical Cyclone Advices are issued by Regional Offices of the Bureau of Meteorology in Brisbane, Darwin or Perth, depending on the location of the cyclone:
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#1120062 - 14/08/2012 16:41 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: SBT]
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Don't frequent this forum much but thought I'd chuck this here:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120813155511.htm

Article regarding the impact of fresh water in oceans on Hurricane generation. Interesting to note in Australia mainly because of the combination of Brisbane floods + Cyclone Yasi. Could the flow of fresh water from Brisbane have increased the severity of Yasi?
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#1120067 - 14/08/2012 17:09 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: davidm]
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Doubt it, the severity of Yasi was just from a perfect combination of conditions for development (SST's, shear, steering winds), the floods in Brisbane would have had a very negligible effect, if any.

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#1120099 - 14/08/2012 20:21 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Things]
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yasi formed several thousand km's away from central and southern qld floods well into Fijian AOR.
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#1120522 - 16/08/2012 16:46 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Mick10]
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Interesting to speculate on, but Yasi did form a long way off Australia, and even if you were thinking that the intensity was in some way tied to fresh waters from the Brisbane region floods, the prevailing ocean currents would not support the theory - water from the Brisbane River would have made a steady trip southward initially before jettisoning off into the Pacific.
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#1121225 - 17/08/2012 23:21 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: TSVWeatherNerd]
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It's 1522 kilomteres by road from Brisbane to Cardwell near where Yasi crossed the coast. The currents at that time of the year are from Fraser Island to Tasmania (so heading south not north then circulating out passed NZ and cooling and mixing all the time before heading north into the Coral Sea at around the level of Rockhampton and then back down the coast at a maximum speed of 1.6kt per hour x 12 days = 834klm) so not a chance that the floods in Brisbane had 1 iota of influence on Yasi.

Brisbane flood 11 Jan, Yasi formed 26 Jan near Fiji, 3 Feb crossed coast near Cardwell. By that stage any water from the floods would have been somewhere down near Tasmania and possibly still heading south. For the flood water to get within say 1000klm of Yasi's track it would have needed to be doing something along the lines of 7knots by my maths (probably made a hash of it but here is the link I found).

http://www.csiro.au/en/Outcomes/Climate/Understanding/AustralasianOceanCurrents.aspx for 4 main ocean currents around Australia.

Interesting question though David M - thanks for putting it up because I had fun looking for the information. grin
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#1121250 - 18/08/2012 00:30 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: SBT]
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Perhaps the time to put this one to bed ( for the sake of both sides of the argument... note the web address)?

http://www.oceanclimatechange.org.au/content/images/uploads/east_australian_current_fig2.jpg


Edited by boomer (18/08/2012 00:32)
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#1122458 - 23/08/2012 17:18 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: boomer]
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Just a question..... Where are all the old threads from yasi ect? was going for a read to show a friend and poof gone? was it thread clean up or move to an archive or is it still hanging around in another area?
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#1122470 - 23/08/2012 17:48 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Dawoodman]
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They are still there.

Change the 'Show Topics' selection from 3 months to all (at the bottom of the TC forum home page), and you'll find the threads. smile
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#1122510 - 23/08/2012 20:02 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Raindammit]
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cheers thank you grin
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#1123396 - 28/08/2012 15:01 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Dawoodman]
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I thought I'd share this linky in here.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world...o-1226459564879
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#1123473 - 28/08/2012 20:34 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: ColdFront]
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I,m not sure if this has been posted before but gaffer, duct, 100mph tape is always in my first kit. If I am travelling light in the bush I include it, a compression bandage (for snakebites), pain killers and a knife with sawing capability.
The reason is that duct tape beats the hell out of medical tape.
Note on the link the comment about gaping wounds.
http://firstaid.ygoy.com/2010/07/20/using-duct-tape-as-first-aid-tape/
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#1125074 - 05/09/2012 21:41 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: boomer]
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Registered: 07/02/2007
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Super glue gel - is also very good for wound sealing - in fact I believe that was one of the original uses for it.
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#1125399 - 07/09/2012 12:45 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: SBT]
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From my experience with Yasi, particularly with Bilyana and how the house remarkably held together:

*A generator is a GOD SEND. You may not need it for years, but believe me it's worth it's weight in gold when you're without power for days.

*I closed all internal doors and removed the covers for the man holes. My theory was that the man hole covers would be moving a lot during the cyclone and would probably break anyway, and without them there the pressure changes would be able to flow in and out of the roof cavity better.

*If you have an rain water tank, try and make sure it's full before the cyclone arrives - they won't budge an inch, even in a cat 5 cyclone such as Yasi.

*Don't bother taping windows if you don't plan to be in the house when the cyclone arrives. None of my windows broke during Yasi, and masking tape can be notoriously hard to remove afterwards without leaving residue behind. The windows will need to be replaced anyway if they break, taped or not.

*If you can't put your wheelie bin under the house (because it's a low set home etc) either put it inside if it's not too stinky, or lay it on it's side and tie it securely to the house. I did this and it didn't go anywhere.

*Try and remove TV antennas before the cyclone because;
a)They WILL blow away or be severely damaged and;
b)They will be almost impossible to replace for a few weeks after the cyclone - no TV.

*If you have to leave an area before a cyclone arrives (such as your home, holiday house etc) make sure you take proof of ownership documents with you. After Yasi, I was stopped near Cardwell by the police on my way back to Bilyana from Townsville and they had 'locked down' the highway from Cardwell to Tully. You could only get in if you could prove you resided in the area, or had property there.
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#1125406 - 07/09/2012 13:06 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Raindammit]
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Loc: Airlie Beach & Brisbane
And if you do have a generator, make sure it is in a WELL VENTILATED area. Inside, is not a well ventilated area...

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#1125435 - 07/09/2012 14:34 Re: Cyclone Information/Advice [Re: Xavo]
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