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#898867 - 18/11/2010 11:05 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: DaveM]
Loopy Radar Offline
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In 2007 there was quite a dumping of snow down to 300m in the Hunter.
The April 99 Sydney hailstorm is a good example of the regions potential for extreme events. Why not a decent snowstorm? And I don't think the so called global warming would diminish the possibility.
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#898875 - 18/11/2010 12:09 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Loopy Radar]
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Get off the happy herbs wink.

Read my previous post and you'll see why it's next to impossible to get a flurry in the Sydney Basin let alone a New England style "Nor'Easter" storm. Not that it stops me from lapsing into fantasy land every once in a while, but as a realist and pessimist I'm quickly brought back to the (hot dry) earth.

The area around the Border Ranges is no stranger to snow so it's no surprise that Mt. Nardi get a dusting or two every once in a while. Mt. Warning is over 1100 m ASL and has probably had some solid falls over the years from ECL's (like the Barringtons, but less common). Accumulations would be light to non existent though because of its jagged peak.

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#898883 - 18/11/2010 12:40 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: DaveM]
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Originally Posted By: DaveM
Surly - in 1968 (I think) there was decent snow well north in NSW, I have seen many pictures of snow in the Quirindi township and surrounds (about 350 to 400 metres asl). Accumulations were about 2cm from memory.


This is interesting...my grandfather tells of it snowing in Gunnedah around this time, with a solid, but still small accumulation (2cm would sound right), enough to make snowballs etc I think. What got me about this was that he reckoned it was late spring (like November or something) but I always kept it in the back of my mind as both he and my grandmother were nearly 30 when they moved to Australia from the Netherlands, so they most definitely know what snow looks like!

I think I'm motivated to ask them again about it this Christmas when I visit smile

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#898894 - 18/11/2010 13:47 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Dave-Wx]
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Yes Dave Wx I think it was late in the winter or in Spring. We moved to Quirindi from Coonamble in Nov/Dec 68 and it was still very much a topic of interest and lots of photos about. Pretty sure it did snow in Gunnedah (whole Liverpool/Breeza Plains areas)and certainly Coonabarabran (which is higher) as well. I know it did not snow in Coonamble though - would have remembered that for sure.

I remember being cheesed at missing snow!! So every year after that I thought it would do it again but only really once do I remember it falling (not settling) in Quirindi up to end of 76 when we left.

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#898956 - 18/11/2010 17:00 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: DaveM]
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Dave and Dave
Are you talking about 1968 for sure?
My snow was almost certainly November 1965.
Were there two late spring snowfalls three years apart?
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#899243 - 19/11/2010 09:32 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Surly Bond]
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Surly - I am definitely talking 1968, our family moved to Quirindi in the last month or two of 68 and people were still agog about the snow prior to our arrival. It may have been a September event at a guess but not so sure really. I was just so annoyed at having missed it. Being from Coonamble I had really only briefly seen snow once or twice before in the Orange/Borenore area where some of mum's family lived.

Once in Quirindi though we would head to Nundle/Hanging Rock/Sheba Dam any chance we had if it snowed, which it did a few times each winter. We had an excellent view of the Wallabadah Ranges from home and it would look like an "American ranges" scene with snow well down the flanks, very scenic. My very first roll of film (B & W) out of my first camera (Kodak 126 instamatic) had snow photos in it. The start of two loves in my life - photography and snow.

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#899949 - 22/11/2010 01:30 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: dimfry]
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Too true dimfry!! Im a real sucker for snow as well and often (I laugh alot at this) find myself dreaming about it snowing in my backyard.

Im in the latrobe valley in VIC here and snow settled here when I was 3 years old and I still remember it!! (Im 18 now!)

Wonderful!!

Nothing since then though (at least not in Moe).......mabye next year!? =D


Edited by Prokasaurus (22/11/2010 01:32)

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#899960 - 22/11/2010 06:57 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Prokasaurus]
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Just wondering, where is the most northerly location in Australia where snow has fallen?

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#899963 - 22/11/2010 07:16 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: UK Steve]
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If you are talking sea level then I would expect it to be the Great Australian Bight due to the cold ocean temps there. But given a little altitude I have heard of snow falling briefly on Ayres Rock.

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#899979 - 22/11/2010 08:48 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: BOM99]
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"from lapsing into fantasy land every once in a while, but as a realist and pessimist I'm quickly brought back to the (hot dry) earth."
Getting baseball size hail with surface temp at 21 degrees was in the realms of fantasy, until it happened.
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#899991 - 22/11/2010 10:04 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: MascotWX]
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Originally Posted By: MascotWX

I cannot think of any way Sydney could even see a fluke snowfall, many areas in the northern hemisphere at similar latitude in China, southern Europe, or the U.S. can manage it but thats because they have enough landmass to work with upstream where the cold air does not modify.


I think Buenos Aires at almost identical latitude to Sydney has had snow on more than one occasion, like the for mentioned there is also a greater landmass southwards, although very narrow.

I would go as far as a once in 200/300 year event however for Sydney.
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#900009 - 22/11/2010 13:22 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: UK Steve]
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Originally Posted By: UK Steve
Just wondering, where is the most northerly location in Australia where snow has fallen?


Pretty sure it snowed in the higher country near Mackay?

Think another thread exists for this subject.Somewhere.....
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#900018 - 22/11/2010 14:10 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Ruckle]
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I will agree with MascotWX. Who know's though, maybe in some fluke event one of two wet flakes might fall. Australia's winter weather is generally more mild than other places at similiar latitude. I believe Shanghai gets the odd dusting of snow and that is at a similar latitude as Coff's Harbour.

Just to show how the Southern Ocean impacts our weather:

Harbin (45 degree N, 150 m elevation) - average max and min temps in Jan: -12 and -24, respectively.

Hobart (43 degree S) - average max and min temps in Jul: 12 and 5, respectively.

(data from wikipedia, sounds about right though)

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#900083 - 22/11/2010 18:24 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Ruckle]
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Originally Posted By: Ruckle
Originally Posted By: UK Steve
Just wondering, where is the most northerly location in Australia where snow has fallen?


Pretty sure it snowed in the higher country near Mackay?

Think another thread exists for this subject.Somewhere.....


Yes, in the Eungella National Park (about 21šS, in the high country behind Mackay). I presume it would have occurred on one of the higher peaks/parts in the National Park and not in the village itself (which is only about 700m ASL). Really nice area too and I saw my first wild platypus there.
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#900477 - 24/11/2010 14:12 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Seabreeze]
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pics here on my website in snow pics.
http://www.freewebs.com/supercell1/index.htm

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#900574 - 24/11/2010 19:04 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Storm Hunter]
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Originally Posted By: Storm Hunter
pics here on my website in snow pics.
http://www.freewebs.com/supercell1/index.htm


Well done, that brings back memories, I grew up in Newcastle in the 70's and remember that plaque on Mount Sugarloaf commemorating the 19/07/65 snowfall. I will have to quote this in the high country ramblings thread, classic pictures.

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#900722 - 25/11/2010 09:01 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: BOM99]
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Well done ST - the snow at Kulnura and Mangrove is at an area approx (rusty memory) around 300m to 350m asl. In snow falls such as that, it would be very possible to SEE snow flakes at even lower levels which is what the topic was originally about. Cheers.

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#1446770 - 02/01/2018 06:23 Re: Snow in Sydney [Re: Loopy Radar]
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On the 21st of June 1972 it snowed near Kellyville. It was spread over about a square mile from around the Windsor road to Castlebrook cemetery and in a square leg all the way up to the top of Kellyville Ridge. The heaviest concentration was around where the Ettamogah Hotel and Mcdonalds now are. The remnants of the old Lochinvar motel are still there, I believe. The bloke running the motel was up on the flat roof of the building shovelling the snow off. Stuff like that was hardly ever reported on the TV news in those days. I seem to remember it was reported in one of the local Hawkesbury papers. I saw the snow myself - passing motorists were building little snowmen on the bumpers of their cars. And it was snow - not graupel like we got in Elizabeth Bay in July of 2008.

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