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#926792 - 11/01/2011 14:55 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: wetdreams]
RAINALI Offline
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Originally Posted By: wetdreams
Originally Posted By: RAINALI
I have relies at Mooloolah Valley and can't reach them. Anyone know the situation there? Bit worried as they have a creek running through the middle of their property. I realise I can't help from NQ but am a bit concerned.


I'm in the valley we've had some big falls here, the creek out the back of our place is raging. I haven't had a chance to have a look around today (busy cleaning silted drains). Diamond Valley Rd must be cut lots of cars going up and back, Neil Rd is closed and there will be a lot more cut roads around the place. I will be going for a drive later today, you can PM me if you like and I'll see if I can help you out.

PS. Just had a huge thunder clap here, shook the house like crazy...


Thanks WD. Hubby just got through to them. They have water up to the house (they said they can jump from the house into the water). They are cut off as a result of the creek rising(the house is at the rear of the property). Their kids are freaking out but all are fine for the moment. Appreciate your offer by the way.

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#926793 - 11/01/2011 14:56 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: Thunderz]
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SBT- as you know I have been advocating for 'Community Alert System' for some time- similar to the one they have in WA. Refer to http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/topic/19561/gonew/1
Yes it is time.

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#926794 - 11/01/2011 14:57 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: RWM's Daughter]
exodus Offline
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Originally Posted By: RWM's Daughter
Wivenhoe now 74.31 and falling..


11/01/2011 13:42 74.39


its not falling, its fluctuating with a rising trend.

http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDQ65389/IDQ65389.540177.tbl.shtml

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#926795 - 11/01/2011 14:59 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: exodus]
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Originally Posted By: exodus
Originally Posted By: RWM's Daughter
Wivenhoe now 74.31 and falling..


11/01/2011 13:42 74.39


its not falling, its fluctuating with a rising trend.

http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDQ65389/IDQ65389.540177.tbl.shtml


Its most likely due to the gates opening another 'rung' or so


Edited by Seann M (11/01/2011 14:59)

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#926796 - 11/01/2011 14:59 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: exodus]
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It certainly is Tom and this hopefully will force the fwits in EMQ to take stock and see that the simplest solution is the WA one. As standard warning which everyone is aware of and can act on might have done more to prepare people in Brisbane and the valleys but wouldn't have done squat for Toowoomba - it just happened too fast.
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#926797 - 11/01/2011 14:59 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: exodus]
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Originally Posted By: exodus
Originally Posted By: RWM's Daughter
Wivenhoe now 74.31 and falling..


11/01/2011 13:42 74.39


its not falling, its fluctuating with a rising trend.

http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDQ65389/IDQ65389.540177.tbl.shtml


Sorry Exodus just reporting exactly as it says
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#926798 - 11/01/2011 15:00 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: exodus]
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Holy crap that was loud!

Schummy- I think more as a precuaction for people not be able to get home.. God, I hope so.

Hope like hell that we are ok where we are too.
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#926800 - 11/01/2011 15:01 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: core puncher]
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Originally Posted By: core puncher
Originally Posted By: Sandstorm
Originally Posted By: core puncher
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What is needed is a bloody royal commission on the way

You cannot be serious !!!


Why would i not be serious? Are you honestly serious in that suggestion.. I am pretty sure most members here would agree (ofcourse a few wont-you're one of them-). I gather you dont understand what a Royal Commission is? It has been done in the past for other disasters Ie Canberra Fires, Vic Fires for example, Hopefully we will never need to find out if the Commission was-is effective as nobody would want a repeat.

A Royal Commission a body set up by the government on the recommendation of the prime minister to gather information about the operation of existing laws or to investigate any social, educational, or other matter. The commission has prescribed terms of reference and reports to the government on how any change might be achieved.

In otherwords studies will be made in order to prevent or lessen the effects of the event. My statement is aimed towards a serious overhall needed in regards to public warnings in situations of these that have occured..

IMO Toowoomba would not have seen this event coming even with the best tech onboard. Though as seen here in this thread some of us knew it was possible, A warning system that is effective and proacvtive is whats needed. Who goves a rats behind of the ifs buts and maybes, the roll on affect of putting out a warning and nothing occuring... Is WAY better then the one that has just occured,.

ITs always better to know something then nothing at least if and when something occurs you are prepared. IF people become complacent due to events not occuring then at the end of the day it is on there shoulders if they do not react promptly to the warnings given..

I watched the PMs coverage live just before and this was basically brought up in question time,. Something not has to be done it NEEDS to.

ITs going to be a tough newyear for many, Even from some of us afar not directly affected..Ive for one have had a frg in my throat since i woke and have been fighting back tears, and had constant goosebumps even though its sitting on 23'c 21dp and constant drizzle.

Im trying my hardest to get a ride up with a mate with the SES, If they drive im coming up to help wherever i can, if they fly up i may not be able to,..I suffer chronic pain and im prepared to fill sandbags 24/7 until i drop... or the waters drop first.


I totally agree this should happen no questions asked.

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#926801 - 11/01/2011 15:05 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: BeknPaul]
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Originally Posted By: BeknPaul
Schummy- I think more as a precuaction for people not be able to get home.. God, I hope so.

Hope like hell that we are ok where we are too.



yeah thats true, well there is always edelston/camp cable/greenbank/teviots roads that are fine and will be for a while still

hope to see you around sometime!
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#926803 - 11/01/2011 15:07 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: !SCHUMMY!]
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Don't know for sure, but I am lead to believe that Greenbank and Teviot are cut. Looking into that now.. Probably only just..
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#926806 - 11/01/2011 15:08 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: Zacy-G]
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Loc: Ocean View, Queensland
Originally Posted By: Zacy-G
Any update on the situation in Caboolture/Strathpine?


I have just been for a drive, but didn't get very far. Caboolture River Road is flooded by Morayfield Road (near Anaconda). The bridge over Wararba Creek in Bellmere is closed.
The Bridge over Caboolture River on Torrens Road is open, but very fast flowing water under it. The water level seems to be dropping though. Morayfield Road by Centenary Lakes is now part of the lakes. The bottle shop in Bellmere is open... phew!

Trains from the city are stopping at Narangba station. The Bruce is cut just north of Caboolture and I think to the south too.

The rain has slowed right down now, compared to this morning anyway. I have now received just over 329mm of rain since midnight.
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#926807 - 11/01/2011 15:09 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: stevemack]
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If the gov don't do one of their own accord, the coroner will certainly recommend one. Gov usually starts one of their own so they can say they are being proactive and hope the voters won't give them too much of a kicking.

Too much fear and heartache caused because our leaders don't want to 'panic' people, and don't want to spend our money on us to give us the early warning systems and technology we need.
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#926808 - 11/01/2011 15:09 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: !SCHUMMY!]
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People need to refrain from suggesting that Wivenhoe is falling or stabilizing unless they see a solid couple of hours of this.

The current inflows and outflows mean that the level will continue to rise for at least another 6 hours or more. Minor fluctuations will occur within smaller timeframes but the overall trend will be to increase in the coming hours. You have to understand the massive amounts flowing will not be offset by the gates being fully opened.
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#926811 - 11/01/2011 15:11 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: !SCHUMMY!]
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I've got Wivenhoe at 74.37 and rising .... another metre and it's over the top...

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#926812 - 11/01/2011 15:12 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: Locke]
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Yeah the commentary on the BoM's gauge site only refers to the trend from the last data point, so even if it has 'dropped' 1mm, it will still report as 'falling' despite there actually being an overall rising trend.

So is that now less than a metre to rise before the fuse plug goes?
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#926813 - 11/01/2011 15:12 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: Locke]
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Geez I'm worried for so many places now I cannot think where to begin. Brisbane CBD will see some serious flooding thursday that is for sure. But also the upper areas could easily see more raging torrents occur. Hope everyone is SAFE from all of this.

TS cool

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#926815 - 11/01/2011 15:13 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: Spiceman]
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Also Wivenhoe has recieved over 200mm in last 5 hrs... almost like the finger of God that band of rain that just keeps dropping....

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#926817 - 11/01/2011 15:14 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: Spiceman]
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Campbell Newman press conference on Channel 7 right now

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#926818 - 11/01/2011 15:15 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: bigwilly]
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Originally Posted By: bigwilly
Yeah the commentary on the BoM's gauge site only refers to the trend from the last data point, so even if it has 'dropped' 1mm, it will still report as 'falling' despite there actually being an overall rising trend.

So is that now less than a metre to rise before the fuse plug goes?


Wow, so if this fuse plug goes what does that mean for Brisbane in terms of flooding etc? On top of everything else already I mean.
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#926819 - 11/01/2011 15:16 Re: SE QLD /NE NSW FLOOD DISASTER 5-12 JANUARY 2011 [Re: pabloako]
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FYI A plot I just created from the height data:


Trend is a little deceptive, so dont trust it smile
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