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#95817 - 06/09/2003 20:01 Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Here is some old snow photos which where taken back in 1965 on the 18th of july on a saturday night.They where taken 10kms south of Cessnock,in the wattagan mts,at millfield,congewai,and mt sugarloath near newcastle,it all so snowed in the hills just west of cessnock,and around maitland.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/forestmaps48/snow Millfield Mt.jpg

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#95818 - 06/09/2003 20:07 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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The link doesn't seem to work. Is the 'Millfield Mt.jpg part of the address?

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#95819 - 06/09/2003 22:33 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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above.This old photo was taken at millfeild 10kms south of cessnock,in the hunter valley,on saturday 18th july 1965,other snowfalls where reported on mt sugarloaf,on the hills just west of cessnock,and all over the wattagan range west of lake macquarie.i will try and put more pics in i have of the event.

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#95820 - 06/09/2003 22:57 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Gidday Tom,

Thanks for posting that picture!!
The snow event of the 18 July 1965 was the most impressive snowfall in history. Snow settled to very low levels across the Hunter. The lowest snow was settle to on this day was at West Wallsend (~100m ASL), which I must say is quiet incredible given the northly latitude of the Hunter.
My mother said she can remember seeing Mt Sugarloaf and some of the surrounding hills 'snow capped' on this day.

:cheers:

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#95821 - 06/09/2003 23:25 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Here is snow on top of Mt Sugarloaf,an old news paper the Newcastle Sun.

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#95822 - 07/09/2003 09:44 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Hi Tom laugh
Great pics eek Impressive....100m & snow laugh Heres hoping next winter will deliver the goods
:cheers:
SnowMac

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#95823 - 08/09/2003 15:20 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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I think the July 1900 Cold outbreak/snowfall was more widespread and extensive, with heavy falls in parts of the Hunter Valley. Mudgee saw snow on the ground in that event. By the way, what elevation/latitude is Mount Sugarloaf?

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#95824 - 08/09/2003 19:30 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Hi weatherfreak 24.
Mt Sugarloaf is just inland from Newcastle on the coast here in nsw,its latitude is only,412MTS,ABOVE SEA LEVEL,and the Wattagan range south of Cessnock in the Hunter vineyard area,is about the same hight,so it was a big event too see snow down to such low levels.

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#95825 - 08/09/2003 20:55 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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I think the July 1900 Cold outbreak/snowfall was more widespread and extensive, with heavy falls in parts of the Hunter Valley. Mudgee saw snow on the ground in that event. By the way, what elevation/latitude is Mount Sugarloaf?
The 1900 snow event would have produced heavier falls in the area that did snow, but in comparison to the 1965 snowfall, it didn't snow as low here in the Hunter. Unfortunately there is not much information regarding the 1900 snowfall, however, there certainly is no record of it ever snowing on Mt Sugarloaf before 1965.

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#95826 - 13/09/2003 01:42 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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G'Day,

Excellent articles TH.

I'd love to read the rest of that page - appears Muswellbrook may have even had some snow.

On that day in 1965 I've even heard stories that snow actually fell even closer to Newcastle with New Lambton getting the odd flake (dom't know how true that is). Also I believe Newcastle received several hail showers that same afternoon and my uncle who used to live in Adamstown Heights recorded a temperature of about 5C at 3pm.


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#95827 - 18/09/2003 22:44 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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G'Day,

Just wondering if anybody else has any interesting snow stories - or weather stories from the Hunter Valley.

C'mon RI - I know you've got some doozies.


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#95828 - 21/09/2003 14:18 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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On that day in 1965 I've even heard stories that snow actually fell even closer to Newcastle with New Lambton getting the odd flake (dom't know how true that is).
To what I have heard, it was on this date that Williamtown AMO recorded a light snowfall. There have only been two known snowfalls on Mt Sugarloaf where the snow has actually settled. 18 July 1965 was the first, the second time was in June 1975 (unsure of the exact date). The 1975 snowfall was also very low, but was not quiet as low as the 1965 event. Snow settled around 200 - 300m with snow visible on the hills of Maitland and Cessnock also.

BTW, it is not uncommon for the Liverpool Ranges to recieve a good dump of snow in the winter months. Many people don't realise but the Hunter has quiet a bit of high country, not just on the Barrington Tops. Most of these mountains are in the Liverpool Ranges and some are as high as 1450m. The mountains on the Liverpool Ranges are very rugged and many of them would almost make the mountain peaks of the central tablelands look like ant hills. :p If anyone has ever chased the snow on the Barrington Tops, you can just see how high the peaks are around the Hunter. After a good fall of snow, you can see an almost endless roll of snow capped mountains from the Dingo Fence lookout with green (but sometimes brown) farmlands down in the valleys. An awesome sight to see.

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#95829 - 21/09/2003 16:52 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Here are some pics of the 1965 event originally posted by LW and FM on this thread . The top was taken near Murrurundi on the Liverpool ranges, while the bottom one is Mt Sugarloaf. Going by where the train line is today, the top photo would have been taken at an elevation no higher then 700m.




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#95830 - 23/09/2003 01:57 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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G'Day,

Great photos RI - knew you'd come through with a doozie :p .

I must admit that I have never heard of that Williamtown snowfall.

That June 1975 snowfall on Mt Sugarloaf, I think I might have the date of that one somewhere, and if not my uncle might remember. If I find it I'll reply. :wave:

Parts of the Central Tablelands occasionally through winter receive a snow prediction from the BoM - But probably 60 % of the time the Barrington Tops are left out completely. I think the BoM sometimes forgets that they even exist or just neglect to consider their impressive elevations. The highest being Brumlow Top (1586 m ASL eek ) - love to visit there one day.

cheers :cheers: ,

Grant smile
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#95831 - 23/09/2003 19:19 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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Hi All,

This afternoon I am finding it hard to imagine it ever snowing anywhere in the Hunter. I have the A/C cranked up and it is still 30 C outside!!! eek

It is very true that BoM leave out the Hunter when forecasting snow. I have seen this countless number of times in the past. But I think it has to do with the fact that the high country in the Hunter is made up of ridge lines and so therefore there is very little if any settlement on them. On the other hand, the Central Tablelands is far more populated and so therefore snow and other phenomenas effect more people.

The Hunter in recent years has copped some good falls. Between 5 - 7 August 1993 there was a short period of cold wet weather and most of the rain was falling as heavy snow above 1200m on the ranges. It was reported in the media at the time that the Scone Road on the Barrington Tops had 60cm of snow on it. I was speaking to a local of Hunter Springs a few years ago and he said that the snow during this time was deep enough to cover the fence lines, so that would have been close to 3 feet!!!

Another significant snow event to hit the Hunter was the snowfall of 27 July 1990. On this day snow settled to as low as 500m in some areas. Max temps in the lower Hunter were mostly 8 - 10C on this day, making it one of the coldest July days on record.

:cheers:

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#95832 - 24/09/2003 18:04 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley.
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G'Day,

Yes RI - where has winter gone ???

How about some of the early morning temps so far this week. I recorded 28C at about 2am a few mornings ago.


cheers, wink

Grant
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#1445021 - 17/12/2017 11:52 Re: Old Snow Photos In Hunter Valley. [Re: tom henry]
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Just thought I would bump this thread back into action to ask if anyone has any pictures of snow in the Broken Back Range at all??

This area is the range just west of Cessnock & has several peaks above 600m ASL. This range has quite a bit of elevated land over 400m so was just curious. Am keen to take a drive up there one day!!

Grant
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