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#1007830 - 25/08/2011 19:20 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: thomo]
Things Offline
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^ At a good resolution. My camera does 1000FPS video, but the resolution is anything but amazing poke

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#1007865 - 25/08/2011 22:36 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Things]
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This is the best daytime branchy shot I have managed

But its sunset and this helps a lot. Most of my other daytime shots have been pretty uninteresting. Have avoided triggers as well for same sort of reasons as Marty and Greggy.

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#1028041 - 08/11/2011 17:13 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: ----]
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ive pondered paying good money for a lightning trigger...
being kinda broke because no bugger will hire me for medical reasons is an issue though...

here is a daytime one i shot from my own back deck about 2 years ago..
pure fluke that i haven't been able to duplicate since...
i used a remote and tripod, ISO200, 18mm @ f8 and i was using motor drive..
(image is cropped)
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#1030917 - 15/11/2011 18:59 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: thomo]
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I haven't got a trigger yet but plan to one day for those sunset bolts, it is a pain having to rely on 1-2seconds exposures all the time to get a bolt, especially with a 400D which is slow between shutter closing/opening.

Jacci never has trouble getting ALL the branches with her trigger because she has a Nikkon. Same for Willz up here, Nikkon smashes the Canon for getting the mirror up and that is the diff between some branches and many branches or none at all. The 5DMKII is dreadfully slow for this and you are better off shooting the old fashioned way for bolts.

Having said that I'd only use a trigger in the day or at sunset, after which I'd go to longer exposures.

TS cool

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#1031052 - 15/11/2011 23:51 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Thunderstruck]
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Yer I've been looking today at the types of triggers out there.... will prob get a Patchmaster.... http://www.pmgadgets.net/index_en.php?cPath=1

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#1031081 - 16/11/2011 01:37 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: teckert]
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I will enquire with the Darwin experts as to what triggers they use/are best and get back to you all. One bloke has that Patchmaster and yep def a good one, but there is another that is also really really good for a good price. Hate the ones that go off at stuff you can't even see and fill your card up.

TS cool

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#1036219 - 29/11/2011 22:45 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Thunderstruck]
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$10 Lightning Trigger works - woohoo

Worked better with front Fresnel lens removed and clear cover installed

http://justinview.com.au/2011/08/cheap-canon-dslr-optical-trigger/

Canon 550D Iso800, 1/2 second, F5.7, 18mm


Edited by TranslucidusW (29/11/2011 22:46)
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#1038011 - 03/12/2011 19:28 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: TranslucidusW]
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Yeah, I hate that as well Lennie - WOOP's, I've got one of those!
I bought the "Original" 'Lightning Trigger' 2 years ago and have enjoyed using it. If I had any interest/ability in electronics I suppose I would have 'built my own', but I was rich at the time wink . Never used mine in the pitch dark as yet as they recommend an exposure some where around 1/4 - 1/15th of a second and of course with longer exposures you 'always' get all the strikes you could ever need, no problem poke .

I have shot longer at around Sunset, 5-10 seconds on auto and managed okay. I use the Canon 5D and 5D mkII. Always on a Tripod.

The trigger is very sensitive to any static/strikes in the area, just like any other I suppose. From the site '
Quote:
Extremely sensitive optical flash sensor responds to lightning flashes at distances up to 20 miles (day) and 40 miles (night), flash strobes and infrared (remote control) transmitters
'

If only it triggered using the lightning in the view finder grin
Unfortunately it shuts off the display screen and your shooting blind. Luckily were using Digital.

Any way, I have put together a Gallery on my Web sit for you to have a look at if you like HERE.

The first 2 images were pure reflex/fluke and I do have a couple more on slide, when I get my Scanner fixed.

And sorry about the size of the lightning strikes, after all, this Is South Australia. smirk

Enjoy,

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#1269849 - 15/07/2014 10:40 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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The latest in lightning triggers: http://www.nerotrigger.com/miops/

They have come a long way in the last 5 years!

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#1270095 - 17/07/2014 11:11 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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looks amazing, I'd get it for the timelapse and lightning.... Imagine how good it would be in a meteor shower
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#1279986 - 13/10/2014 20:32 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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Has anyone recently used a trigger and what have the results been like. I would love to get one but they seem to all be in the USA at the moment and our $ sucks just now. Anyone tried a Nero.
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#1306854 - 10/02/2015 17:42 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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popeye I'm seriously considering a nero, but more for the timelapse poke I head to the US for a tour soon and at $199 I'm willing to give it a shot, So by the end of june I'll let you know how it went grin
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#1306967 - 11/02/2015 13:28 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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Triggers have one downside, and that is probably related to your camera's shutter lag. I have successfully captured many single channel bolts, but I know that the discharge often started with a brief staccato, and the lag is too much for the DSLR to get snag that far more impressive bolt image, only the subsequent single channel. My camera is a Canon D60
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#1307179 - 12/02/2015 18:31 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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Yeah Dawoodman it would be good to see how it goes. I have decided against getting one as I was told the same thing that Ozthunder mentioned that they are hard to pick up lightning shots in their full glory.

I have just picked up a Variable Nuetral Density circular filter which you can attach and extend daytime exposures with. Combined with a remote trigger to fire off shot after shot I am hoping it captures something more spectacular especially more of the late arvo/sunset bolts that we get. Middle of the day stuff is just too bright. Arrives shortly and the cheaper ones are about $25 no doubt you get what you pay for but will play around with the cheaper ones before investing in a variable ND filter at over $100.
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#1307218 - 12/02/2015 20:51 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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Im about to order a trigger, this season has been craphouse for lightning at night time.

All the storms have been firing too early, and the daytime displays have been incredible, im over missin daytime bolts!
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#1307226 - 12/02/2015 21:23 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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Get a 10stop ND filter trav. That way you can still go for the long exposure option.
Edit. Same theory that Pope ye is working on. Although i would probably forego the graduated type unless pointing into the sunset.


Edited by Brett Guy (12/02/2015 21:25)

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#1307410 - 13/02/2015 15:31 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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I think a ten stop at least would be pretty useless for lightning. The impact of the bolt would be massively reduced unless it was very close.
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#1307418 - 13/02/2015 15:42 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Markus]
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Originally Posted By: Markus
I think a ten stop at least would be pretty useless for lightning. The impact of the bolt would be massively reduced unless it was very close.


Fair point. Maybe a 4 and just use shorter and more regular exposures. Good thing is they cost you nothing in the digital age. Photos that is.

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#1307432 - 13/02/2015 16:22 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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With most DSLR these days can take anywhere from 3.5 fps to 10 fps, just put it into burst mode.
Just make sure you have a 32GB or even 62GB memory card that is fast writing, put the camera in burst mode and let rip, once you have captured a strike, go into protect image and lock it and delete the rest if you want!!

With this type of photography you can keep all of your images and create a time lapse of the event!!

I have a 450d canon, it take 3.5fps, i have a 16GB card and on shooting raw holds a 1000 photos, so if i was to shoot on large Quality jpeg its just under 4000 photos!!

Yeah sure you will miss a bolt or two from time to time but you will get more than you miss!

Cheers
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#1307772 - 14/02/2015 15:15 Re: Lightning Trigger! [Re: Beanz]
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Will give that a go next time EddyG to see how it goes. My 3 year old SD cards just don't keep up so have just orderd the fastest best priced card I could find. Sandisk 32GB extreme pro Class 10 should do the job. Have always been frustrated with the buffering and lag time with the old cards on my Nikon D7000. Wold have been perfect this morning here in Broome with some specie sunrise bolts.
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