New Zealand Weather

Posted by: Willoughby

New Zealand Weather - 06/07/2006 22:23

Kia Ora from across the ditch, will try to keep this updated..

Well the last few days a subtropical disturbance off Brisbane developed and tracked southeast.. hit an incoming trough of low pressure.. and a nice wee low has formed generating widespread heavy rain and southerly storm-force winds effecting the Cook Strait, Wellington and Wairarapa. (Yesterday Brothers Island was averging 110km/h/60 knots for the most of yesterday!, 7m swell!!)
That has resulted in flooding in the Hutt Valley with calls for the National Crisis Management Centre to monitor the situation.
Catchments in the Wellington region valleys have been recording some 250mm+ from this event.. and more set to fall.
News link re Wellington floods

Showery and gusty north of Taranaki at the moment, fine and frosty over most of the South Island today. Dunedin AP sitting on -5C at the moment.

Obs, (You guys have no idea how hard it is to gather this, most of which there will be official data bettering this mad )
Centre with Tmax: Whangarei, Gisborne - 15C
Lowest Tmax: Queenstown, Christchurch - 6C

Some essential NZ wx links:
MetService
NZ Weather Forum
NZ Snow Reports

Oh! And my website: wink
Hamilton Weather

:cheers:
Posted by: Altitude

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/07/2006 23:18

hey Willoughby!

im actually going over there next week!

spare of the moment decision

hope the snows nice over there because it certainly isnt here.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/07/2006 21:21

Great stuff Altitude! In years time you wont regret it one bit. Hopefully the weather puts on a show, outlook is grim with rainy warm northwesterlies on the cards through next week.

Today saw early very loud thunderstorms move over Southland with associated westerly gales.. they persisted throughout the day, as well as coastal Otago with damaging gusts to 120km/h with the leeward northwesterlies.

Hawke's Bay, Gisborne and the far north reached 17C.
Min-max was Queenstown, warm on 9C.

Typical strong westerly weather over NZ today with Milford in Fiordland getting 55mm.

Good news with the state of emergency being lifted off the Rangitikei district after flooding.
Quote:
"I estimate many millions of dollars damage to the council's roads and massive damage to farms in the hill country, from slips, and those on the flat," Mr Halstead said.
frown
This flooding should be happening on ur side! shocked
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/07/2006 19:02

Spring-like conditions and warmth over NZ today due to a westerly belt.. rain in the South Island's west and dry and fine elsewhere apart from a few coastal showers in the far north.

Tmax: Napier/Bay of Islands - 18C
Min-Tmax: Hokitika - 11C

Northwesterlies still prevailing and becoming wet.. looking good late this week for a strong icy cold change and the return of fine weather over Queenstown Lakes. smile
Posted by: Freak Snowfall

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/07/2006 12:49

Thanks Willoughby, the weather links are handy as I'm off to NZ south island next week. Looking forward to 8 weeks of tramping, photography and general touristy-ness.

If I could place an order, Id like:
- severe frosts in the Naseby-Ranfurly area on the rail trail,
- torrential deluges at Milford Sound. I've seen it fine and sunny and would love to see the opposite
- some low-level snow. The pictures I saw of lake Tekapo after last month's storms looked awesome

But really, anything cold and bleak would be welcome after the fine and sunny non-winter here in Perth.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/07/2006 13:13

arent all thunderstorms loud wink laugh
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/07/2006 13:14

Well FS you are definitely a lucky one to see Milford Sound with sunny and fine weather, I would think that is a rare event down that way. I have tried to get there 3 times in 3 different seasons, though admitably not Summer! smile and every occasion the weather stopped me, twice we couldnt get there by road as the road was closed to avalanches and once we could have got there by road, all be it a 400km detour, though the forecast was for rain/showers with heavy falls, which down that way mean really heavy rain! So if you want to see Milford with torrential rain, just make sure I am planning a trip there! smile

Though I am planning a trip to Abel Tasman NT in the north of the South Island for the end of the year, so I am sure the links and info on here will come in very handy over the next 4-5 months smile

Though the weather gods have treated me to pre-easter snow in Tekapo which is quite unusaul so I am not completely jinxed! smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/07/2006 22:25

Quote:
Originally posted by squid:
arent all thunderstorms loud wink laugh
Nope. Thunder is usually louder within cold, sea-ward cells as the air has to expand quicker upon lightning discharge as upposed to warm, land-convected cells. (assuming factors like CAPE etc. is the same)

That's great news FS.. looks like beautiful dry southeasterlies will set itself over the west of the South Island by this weekend after heavy northwesterly rains. And you can expect some record-breaking frosts in Central Otago by the look of the models.. with a blocking high developing.
Make sure you share your photos with us!! laugh

NZ's record low temperature was recorded in Ophir, Central Otago of -21.6C on 3 July '95.
Hmm that may be under threat soon??

Today saw the wind tend NW over NZ.. leeward high cloud over the South Island's east and rain in the west, partly cloudy skies mainly in over the NI.

Gisborne today reached 17C, but with a dewpoint of 6C however.

Some YTD rainfall figures collected by the MetService, note higher anomalies this year of east to northeast winds from La Nina? causing easterly-depressions.
Auckland Ap: 617mm (par)
Tauranga: 627mm (par)
Hamilton: 775mm (wet)
Rotorua: 1006mm (extremely wet)
New Plymouth: 521mm (well below average)
Wellington: 531mm (par)
Christchurch: 401mm (extremely wet)
Dunedin: 357mm (par)

smile
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 01:15

I was wondering, which part of NZ has the most similar climate to the UK (Summer average max around 21C, Winter average max around 6C), with occasional snow in winter, and occasional heatwaves in summer (temps near 30C), I would guess that it is somewhere in the south island.
Posted by: Mechsta

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 08:54

Hi Willoughby

Great site you got there regarding Hamilton's weather. I was there in February and one thing that stood out for me was the humidity. Bad, and it was worse in Auckland. Interesting pics you had there regarding the tornado last year. My sister lives in Hillcrest, not far from where the action was so the area looks very familiar to me.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 09:56

oh, well there you go learn something new every day I stand corrected.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 09:59

Just raining here again like it does for the next 5 months
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 11:47

That's a tough one UK Steve as our latitude is just too low for the low temps you guys get in the UK.. but for those temps it would have to be some place like Tekapo in the MacKenzie country, at 683m ASL. Rainfall average is 597mm, too sunny with 2217 hrs.. and 176 ground frosts p/a.
Down there they don't exactly have 'heat waves', but hot, dry windy days due to the foehn 'nor'westers' which can last up to 4 days at a time if a high plants itself over the western Tasman Sea.

Thanks Mechsta, yes we did experience a high dewpoint outbreak in that swapover Jan-Feb period.. but the plus side to that was that it teemed down with rain afterwards in the afternoons. laugh
Yeah, Auckland is more humid year round due to the rarity of winds coming of the southeastern land.. putting a city on a skinny isthmus doesn't help much ay all either!
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 18:40

This is one of my faviourite weather sites, the Lake Tekapo Webcam . Great to watch during a cold blast or any time of the year really. They have just upgraded the cam so you can control it too! you can zoom and direct the cam, though haven't done so myself as it is rather popular at the moment! smile

They also have a great collection of pics from the recent snowfalls around Tekapo.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2006 19:47

That is quite a good webcam Tim..

Destabilising conditions over NZ today with showers increasing in the west. Few thunderstorms moving onto Taranaki, and soon, Fiordland.

Tmax today: Napier/Hastings and the far north on 18C
min-Tmax: Timaru on 10C

SWW's are in place now on the West Coast for heavy rain, and severe gale warnings over Central NZ.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/07/2006 21:34

What a day!
Had thunderstorms, some severe, move over from Hamilton southwards.. My rain rate got up to 5.2mm/min with hail, new record for my station.

Quote:
Thunderstorms, heavy rain batter Wanganui, Taranaki and Wairarapa
Posted at 10:22pm on 12 Jul 2006

Civil Defence staff in Wanganui, Taranaki and Wairarapa are keeping an eye on river levels and roads, as more heavy rain lashes the regions.

The areas were badly affected by flooding last week.

MetService duty forecaster, Paul Bruce, says an active band of thunderstorms was sitting over Taranaki, Wanganui and South Wairarapa on Wednesday evening, bringing with it heavy rain.

Mr Bruce says 60mm of rain was expected in the higher parts of Taranaki, and 40mm in the headwaters of Wanganui River.

He says the storm was expected to bring up to 15mm of rain an hour at its most intense.

Front heading north, west
Paul Bruce says overnight, the front would move towards the Waikato then the central plateau, Gisborne Ranges and Bay of Plenty.

Civil Defence staff say they are watching the situation but up until shortly before 10pm on Wednesday, no major problems had been reported.

The heavy rain and wind were causing problems on roads in parts of the lower North Island on Wednesday night.


Hamilton at lunch time..


Dewpoint up to 12C today, very high for mid-winter, provided a lot of lift and convection to fire up over inland here.

Queenstown warm on 10C, and Kaikoura got the national high of 18C. smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/07/2006 01:05

We actually had some damaging F-1? twin tornadoes on Wednesday.. just 4km SE of where last year's tornado ripped through. eek
Greymouth and Hamilton would undoubtedly be the southern hemisphere's versions of tornado alley.. but so much on a lower scale! the strike rate is amazingly high.

Active front through over the NI early Thursday, delivering some nice falls in the west.
A weakening through brought squally showers and hail to Fiordland under a weakening through. These two, now stalled fronts, set to loop around a broad low generating heavy rain to Gisborne/Eastland throughout Friday.

Napier scored the national high of 17C

Keep that rain Aussie.. or send it elsewhere, please? Progged deep low after low.. getting a bit bored with it! XD
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/07/2006 23:38

Southerly gales returned to Wellington today and heavy rain to the east of the North Island along a warm front. With recent flooding to the SE NI, the API figures would be rising to extreme soon.

Coastal cloud brushing onto the eastern South Island, but fine and sunny elsewhere in the south.
1000hPa low departing now slowly to the ENE.. should be mainly fine over NZ for a good few days until this low off Aus comes through and develops a string of easterlies over the NI.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/07/2006 21:37

The weather turns the opposite against the norm under this southeasterly component.. warm in the west and cool and wetter in the east.
Rain and gales has eased in Wellington and the lower eastern North Island. Drizzly over coastal Canterbury, and some various cloud over the sheltered NI.

Tmax: Levin, Hamilton, Tauranga, Far North - 17C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown - 7C

Thought this was a very nice example of lenticular cloud, over Mt Ruapehu.. humid northerly seeping through on July 3


Source: Metvuw
Posted by: Vinnie

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/07/2006 13:28

talked to some relatives in gisborne herad it has been raining. it alwasys is!!??? grrrr

willougby lets do a swap you can have our 5 months of drought and 2006 yearly average so far of 140mm out of a possible 860mm and we can have the cool wet weather!
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/07/2006 20:48

laugh Na mate quite happy with the climate here! laugh Weren't YOU the one that was going on and on and on about when Perth was going to get a start to Summer? Well it's jinxed you HARD hasn't it?!! wink

Yes, Gisborne has been quite wet of late during the weak/borderline La Nina years of '05/06.

Fine and sunny over much of NZ today under warm dry southeasterlies. Showers easing in the northeast as the low continues to depart eastwards.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 20C
Min-Tmax: Alexandra - 5C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/07/2006 22:04

Another beautiful day over the most of NZ, just cloudy skies over greater Gisborne. Morning fogs and frosts, some veils of high cloud developing from that SE Aussie low.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 21C (HOT!!)
Min-Tmax: Alexandra - 3C

Upcoming low set to deliver widespread persistent falls on Tuesday, what the southerly will do to it on Wed will be interesting through the North Island's East. Looking OK for another warm-advective snow event somewhere over Canterbury atleast smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/07/2006 23:29

A cool cloudy day over NZ with high cloud increasing, and persistent fog in some places..

Flights in/out of Auckland and Christchurch Intl Airports were closed until midday and evening.
A direct flight from London led to passengers being diverted, then grounded at Ohakea due to no resources.. a 30 hour flight! :|

Dunno what the national high was..
But Alexandra got to a sizzling 1C

Should see some good totals gathered today along a warm front.. coming onto light rain now and it looks quite heavy 60km west of Auckland right now.

Becoming very cold too with snow, sometimes heavy.. UKMO brings thickness down to 524dm over Christchurch Friday midday smile
(here we go again!)
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/07/2006 07:42

I heard in that aeroplane it got to 40c
Posted by: Scud

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/07/2006 12:35

Am over in Auckland this week visiting the in-laws. Headed out to Manakau Head for a bit of sight-seeing yesterday. Was amazed that the whole Awhitu penisula was still covered in fog around 1pm before slowly lifting in the afternoon.

A local I spoke to mentioned they don't normally get fogs like that. The Harbour entrance looked very picturesque with a mixture of fog and sun (when it broke through).

Raining steadily now, hoping for some embedded storms to liven the afternoon up.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/07/2006 13:27

This isnt Sydney or summer,it will just rain until it gets a bit colder ,probably become showery with moderate westerlies then the SW will arrive problably tomorrow afternoon and reach gale force
Posted by: Scud

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/07/2006 21:07

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
This isnt Sydney or summer,it will just rain until it gets a bit colder ,probably become showery with moderate westerlies then the SW will arrive problably tomorrow afternoon and reach gale force
laugh

As one Mr Pearce put it to me this afternoon (referring to AKL wx) "It beats a 25 knot South Wester bringing -23465 dew points and cloudless skies!!!"

Ahh, Sydney in winter .... very boring.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/07/2006 22:12

Yes, very 'anti-michael' weather on the way with showers and gusty southwesterlies for the week ahead. XD

Widespread persistent rain over NZ today.. 41mm here since midnight here, and Tauranga east of here has already soaked up some 70mm.. Heavy rain warnings are in place over the east right across from the Coromandel Peninsular to Wellington.

Heavy warm-advective snow to about 400m in Canterbury.. the glorious run continues! laugh
All Canterbury ski fields reporting solid bases of atleast 110cm. Turoa on the south side of Mt Ruapehu already has a 220cm base.. and it aint even September!

Tmax: Bay of Islands - 16C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown, Alexandra - 5C

This July could be Wellington/Wairarapa's wettest on record... I don't think La Nina wants to leave???
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/07/2006 21:18

Very cold over NZ with a departing low.. has been very wild in Wellington with sleet and southerly gales again.. sleety showers to sea level in Canterbury.. and snow to 300m where it shut Queenstown Ap. Fine in the west.. frosts developing now there.. but only if this wind dies down.

Tmax: Far North - 15C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown - 3C
Though Wellington only got to 9C and Chch 5.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/07/2006 21:24

Damp cool southwesterlies over the west of NZ today with some rain over Southland with a weak front ahead of a strong high. Fog cleared here over the Waikato at lunch. Mild and mostly fine in the east of both islands. Weather becoming quite settled again. smile

Tmax: Timaru - 17C
Min-Tmax: Invercargill, Taupo - 10C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/07/2006 22:23

Much the same today with west to southwest winds but quite a bit sunnier.. tending dry northwest across the ranges. Should be much cooler tomorrow along the east coast as winds turns southerly.

Tmax: Timaru - 18C
Min-Tmax: I'gill, Dunedin, Westland, Taupo - 12C

Off to Samoa for a week.. where dewpoints are hovering around 22C with arvo thunderstorms. laugh :wave:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/07/2006 18:35

Started fine but.....Cold and cloudy here this afternoon with SSW & 12c low was 2c
Everywhere else was clear and sunny.
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/07/2006 02:17

I was wondering, is there a big difference in temperature in summer and winter between the north and south of NZ.

In the UK, there can be as much as a 20C difference between London and northern scotland on the same day (For example on May 27th 2005, the max in London was 31C, but in Edinburgh in Scotland, the max was only 9C)
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/07/2006 07:40

I wonder what's the coldest and warmest temps ever recorded in New Zealand for the winter months of July and August as well as for all-time?
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/07/2006 14:31

Not as extreme but it can be 31 in Napier and be 17 in Southland or the west coast or Christchurch can have a fohn NW with 35c but Auckland it would only be 22 as it would be a south westerly that time.

Probably for August 20 or 21 as hot as it ever can in the north but I think its reached 25 in places like Christchurch again because of the NWer
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/08/2006 22:39

That fohn nor'wester can bring about massive temperature changes. i.e. our hittest recorded temp ever..7/2/73 Rangiora, near Chch: 42.4C, then in the space of 10 minutes it dropped to 14C! And what's worse on the 6pm news weather segment.. they took the national highs off the 3pm observation! laugh (after the cold change came thru) How embarrasing.

A damp showery day over most of NZ today with the passage of an occluded front. Cold front only hit onto eastern Bay of Plenty of the NI.. which brought a fair amount of rain there. Fohn was turned on over the Hawke's Bay.
Upper trough now delivering thunderstorms and isolated hail over Buller/Taranaki.

Tmax: Hastings - 21C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown - 8C

Cheers
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/08/2006 23:01

Early heavy showers over Kapiti this morning.. otherwise easing showers in the North and becoming fine. Mostly cloudy in the east of the SI with patchy drizzle. Otherwise it was fine and sunny.

Tmax: Napier, Kaitaia - 19C
Min-Tmax: Ashburton - 7C

Turning our attention now to a strong trough of low pressure over the Solomons.. which is expected to get quite wild over NZ by Sunday as it bears down with a heck of a lot of moisture.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/08/2006 22:17

Quite a bit of fog this morning, which shut Auckland Ap into the afternoon. Some 5000 people effected. And it's developing again there now.

Quite a windless day over much of NZ thanks to a high and a solid low inversion layer. But damp easterlies sent drizzle over coastal Canterbury and Wairarapa. High cloud increasing as the low nears.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 21C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown, Dunedin - 10C

Sure looks like a good 'ol storm coming up. laugh
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/08/2006 22:04

Rain developed over Northern NZ as the low approached.. Heavy in the northeast.
Fine and sunny in the lower south.. increasing high cloud elsewhere.

Tmax: Levin, Bay of Islands - 16C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown - 9C

Heavy rain warnings are in place for tonight..
Baro dropping at a quick notch here now.

Quote:
Issued by MetService at 08:32pm 05-Aug-2006

HEAVY RAIN EXPECTED FOR NORTHERN PARTS OF THE NORTH ISLAND

A complex area of low pressure over the north Tasman Sea is forecast to move
southeast and should cross northern and central New Zealand on Monday. It is
preceded by a strong unusually moist northeast flow and periods of widespread
rain. A heavy burst is expected to affect Northland overnight Saturday and much
of the remainder of the North Island during Sunday.
Another burst of heavy rain is likely to pass near eastern parts of
Northland and Coromandel Peninsula on Sunday evening and over Bay of
Plenty and the north of Gisborne on Sunday night and early Monday
morning.
70 to 100mm of rain is possible in parts of Northland and Auckland
with 100 to 150mm in Coromandel Peninsula, inland Bay of Plenty and
the higher parts of the lake Taupo catchment, but around 200mm in the
eastern ranges of Bay of Plenty and northern Gisborne. The rain is
expected to be accompanied by strong to gale northeasterlies for a
time on Sunday.
People in these areas are advised to watch out for rapidly rising
rivers and streams as well as surface flooding and slips. Driving
conditions could also be hazardous.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/08/2006 19:51

Widespread persistent rain over the North Island and upper SI today, which was the biggest factor in the cause of 10 deaths on the roads this weekend. frown
Dry mostly fine in the southwest of NZ. Forecasted wind was a bit of a fizzer, but the rain is exceeding predictions.

245mm so far on the Coromandel in 24 hours. Flooding is striking Wellsford north of Auckland, parts of the Bay of Plenty (Tauranga) now. Rain not ending anytime soon, that jetstream has revved up.

Tmax: Paeroa, Kaitaia, Whangarei - 18C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown, Alexandra - 7C

Looks good for more warm-advective snow tomorrow over Otago/Canterbury to around 400m.

laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/08/2006 22:38

The low continued to play havoc with the lower North Island today.. flooding has occured in Wanganui East, East Christchurch and Lower Hutt City with a few severe slips.

Quote:
Landslide in suburban street a 'huge disaster'

By Derek Cheng


A landslide which slammed into a garage and left at least one Lower Hutt house on the brink of slipping away has been described by the city's mayor as a "huge disaster".

Four houses in suburban Kelson were evacuated last night after one slid down a hill, threatening the three others.

Hutt City mayor David Ogden visited the site this morning and said it was a "huge disaster for the people here".

"When you get this amount of rain, you're going to get land movement," he said.

One of the homeowners, Peter Pritchard, said a neighbour saw a small slip at about 8pm and banged on their door.

"We went out to look on the backyard and saw a large piece of land go," he said.

He and his wife, son-in-law and three grandchildren are now staying with neighbours and friends in the meantime.

"There is not much we can do except wait.

"We can't think much about it now and I don't think we'll realise for a while just what's happening. The question is, where is it going to finish?"

Mr Pritchard has lived in the house for 40 years and said he had lost a third of his land and most of his backyard into the gully.

"It's like something you'd see in the movies."
frown

Desert and Lindis Roads were shut due to snow... with other highways shut due to flooding or slippage. Mt Hutt recieved a nice 45cm of new snow.. however!

Tmax: Kaitaia - 17C
Min-Tmax: Christchurch - 5C

Send us a high please.. who wants some RAIN?!
Posted by: Vinnie

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/08/2006 19:58

please send the rain here. we only have had 240mm for this year instead of 850mm

we get 1030 highs all the time

all months bar jan and feb are below average rainfall

grrr mad

if nz was positioned where australia was vice versa then you could get what you want! smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/08/2006 21:33

Dunno about that one Vinny :p .. Australia would be still very dry since it's such a dominant land mass.. with such widespread low ET, it creates it's own high pressure!

A weakish trough over the upper North Island brought some showers and the odd thunderstorm about eastern coastal areas. Funnel cloud about Auckland's Harbour bridge. Cold and showery in the southeast of the NI with S/southwesterlies. Lower Hutt receieved another unwelcome 18mm.

Fine and frosty over much of the South Island, Alexandra dropped to -5C.. Manapouri already down to -4C tonight already.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 18C
Min-Tmax: Dunedin - 7C

May get very icy this weekend!
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2006 07:50

Have any places in southern NZ ever had a below freezing max temp, or are such low temps not possible there.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2006 08:07

Yes quite possible indeed.. Alexandra (climate very similar to Orange, NSW) only got to -1C under fog in June this year. Then places like Omarama, Queenstown, Lumsden and Ophir through Central Otago have recorded many maximum's under freezing in the past.
Posted by: BOM99

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2006 11:39

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Yes quite possible indeed.. Alexandra (climate very similar to Orange, NSW) only got to -1C under fog in June this year. Then places like Omarama, Queenstown, Lumsden and Ophir through Central Otago have recorded many maximum's under freezing in the past.
I am sorry, but I have to comment on the climate difference between Orange NSW and Alexandra in southern NZ. I have been to both towns and know the statistics. Alexandra has about 60% of the rainfall of Orange, and is in a valley, while Orange is on a plateau and does not experience long inversions through the day.
I do however agree that the chances of a light snowfall are probably similar as well as most daytime temperatues (other than inversions).
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2006 21:35

Yes, but closer to any Australian micro-climate. smile

Severe frosts over the south, they got to -9C this morning, and Dunedin Ap dropped to -8C, just slight frosts up north here south of Auckland. Mostly fine and cool with the odd shower in the north with southwesterlies. Fine elsewhere, but increasing high cloud and showers in Southland and Fiordland.

Tmax: Kaitaia, Whangarei - 16C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown, Dunedin - 7C

That few houses in Lower Hutt are currently being demolished due to that severe slip.

Insurance compainies counting the cost of this pretty eventful winter...

Quote:
Weather costs in millions
10 August 2006
By MIKE STEERE and the DOMINION POST

New Zealand has suffered one of its most destructive and expensive winters, with heavy rain and snow costing the country millions of dollars.


The Insurance Council said yesterday that recent snowstorms in the South Island were the worst in New Zealand's history, with the repair bill estimated at $50 million.

Now, slips and flooding were causing massive problems in the North Island.

A woman was lucky not to have been sitting in her four-wheel-drive vehicle when it was partly buried in a 200-tonne slip in Wellington yesterday.

Xiaguang Yu's car was shunted part way across the road in Kelburn, a tyre was blown out and a window was smashed as broken rocks crashed into it. The slip, which came off a 10m-high bank, blocked the road for more than an hour.

A cracked, slow-leaking sewer pipe might have caused another slip that has left a Lower Hutt house teetering on the edge of destruction, a leading geologist says.

Grant Dellow, of Crown research institute GNS, inspected the landslide one of at least 300 in the Wellington region this winter in Kelson yesterday.

Steady rain yesterday morning saw chunks of land continue to slide into Speedys Stream. Several more metres of the Nations' house now dangles over the edge.

Insurance Council chief executive Chris Ryan said the weather pattern this winter should be viewed as a wake-up call. The wet winter had lasted so long that soil that previously would not have slipped away from slopes was now creating slips in areas that have not experienced them before.

On top of the $50m expected to be paid out for the snowstorms in Canterbury and Otago recently, the Insurance Council had paid out $22m for the Coromandel "weather bomb", $112m for the Manawatu floods, $58m for Queenstown flooding, $10m for Greymouth tornadoes and $30m for recent floods in Matata and Tauranga...
http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3759786a10,00.html
Posted by: Papy_Zapy

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2006 22:04

At least you have enough water to drink. Our dams are getting lower by the day for the last 10 years.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/08/2006 06:41

Cold wet and windy today with SW gales in Auckland anyway
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/08/2006 21:59

Yep a cool windy day over the North Island.. squally showers and westerlies.. but clouds weren't topping great heights compared to snow effecting Southland, Otago and Fiordland to 200m with hail showers up to Canterbury.
Snow to 900m over the Central North Island with new warnings in place for tomorrow.

Quote:
HEAVY SNOW EXPECTED FOR NORTH ISLAND CENTRAL PLATEAU A west to southwest flow over central New Zealand is expected to become stronger and colder overnight and early Monday morning. Snow showers are expected to become heavier overnight and up 20cm of snow is possible down to 800 metres over the Central Plateau in the 24 hours from 9pm Sunday with 10 to 15cm possible in a 6 hour period during Monday morning. People in the area are advised to watch out for hazardous driving conditions.
A 210cm base at MT HUTT now :p and 250cm at Manganui (Mt Taranaki) ski areas! laugh
Are those Qantas and Air NZ flights booked out yet? wink laugh laugh

Tmax: Kaitaia - 16C
Min-Tmax: Dunedin - 6C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/08/2006 22:58

Snow to 150m over Canterbury today with driving freezing southwesterlies. Hail showers over the North Island, with severe reports from Matamata, Waikato. Partly cloudy over Southland and Otago, but fine and warm over Fiordland/Westland due to a southeasterly foehn.

Tmax: Kaitaia, Bay of Islands, Haast, Milford Sound - 15C
Min-Tmax: Hanmer Springs - 2C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/08/2006 19:33

An upper trough brought some heavy hail showers, with one lasting for 45 minutes over Kerikeri, Northland. A few thunderstorms offshore this evening.
Fine with southeasterlies from Auckland to Fiordland in the west, but showery on the east of the NI with an onshore flow. Partly cloudy on the eastern seaboard of the SI.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 15C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 4C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/08/2006 21:42

Fine and sunny over much over the North Island today.. rain developed over Fiordland, with thick high cloud streaming off the alps over Otago and later Canterbury. South West Cape now averaging a NW 46 knot wind.
Heavy rain warnings are in place for the South Island's west coast.

Tmax: Ashburton - 18C
Min-Tmax: Milford - 8C (Typical foehn action)

Looking ahead, looks like we are set to blasted again by polar winds.. ECMWF progs thickness to 524dm over Dunedin on Monday afternoon. So watches are in place for this. laugh laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2006 15:18

After a fine start on 1c...but not to last it became 8/8 again in Auckland (at least not 8/8 all day like yesterday and then clear all night) but stayed fine elsewhere especially in the east of both islands
Posted by: Papy_Zapy

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2006 15:47

Are there any signs of Spring in NZ. Any trees blooming?
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2006 16:15

Yes there are but it remains cold.The sun is getting higher but 20c+ still looks at least another month away especially if the highs remain north or stationary in the tasman
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/08/2006 17:08

Cloudy 8/8 and 14c only as always,Christchurch got 19c and as always fine in the east,Wellington 14 and NW showers later
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/08/2006 15:32

Finally a half decent day today with 8 /17c with moderate NW but wont last and be back to another week of cloudy cold wet SWers.
Wellington fresh NW and some rain 13c
Christchurch 16 and mainly fine

West coast wet with N and also SW west North IS.fine in the east
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/08/2006 17:36

A week? Um no, and the southwesterlies on the back of the sheltering alps will be sunny.
Then it should be turning warmer NW ahead of a developing low in the Tasman on Thursday.

Sure looks like this could be the coldest outbreak of the year coming up. smile

Quote:
HEAVY SNOW FORECAST FOR FIORDLAND SOUTHLAND SOUTH OTAGO AND THE
DUNEDIN HILLS
A bitterly cold southwest airstream is expected to spread over the
South Island tomorrow (Monday), with snow showers likely to sea level
in the far south and heavy falls down to about 200 metres.

People in these areas are advised to watch out for hazardous travelling
conditions and to stay up to date with the latest forecasts.
LAPS and GFS both progging under 520dm tomorrow until Tuesday from Dunedin to Christchurch. :p
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/08/2006 23:02

Today saw sea-level snow to Southland, Fiordland and parts of Otago.. and later hitting Canterbury to sea level too!
Mild and warm over the North Island due to northwesterlies, but a few showers a bit too.
Southwesterlies have arrived now and they're biting.

Tmax: Hastings - 19C
Min-Tmax: Manapouri, Invercargill - 5C

:cheers:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/08/2006 17:48

Another day of freezing wind blown horizontal rain with SW and high of 12,at least for once the rest of the country had similar with some flurries in Canterbury
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/08/2006 22:10

An incoming ridge of high pressure sent dying southwesterlies over NZ, isolated showers came about to regions exposed to the seaward SW'er.

Frosty too, especially in the north.. we dropped to -3C this morning and looks like we may get that tonight again!

Tmax: Kaitaia - 16C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 4C
Posted by: mikkles

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/08/2006 12:02

ahhhh! nzaas, you've mentioned the most chilling 2 words i know in weather talk.... "horizontal rain". I'm heading across the ditch mid Sept for a motorhome photography tour... hope the angle gets more vertical by then...
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/08/2006 17:40

at least not today although its still cold here on 14c and the sun keeps going in and out of the clouds but yes rain is back tomorrow.....
Wonder if it will be next month or October our 1st 20 day?
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/08/2006 01:44

From your descriptions, it sounds like a typical mid Spring period in the UK, we usually get these types of days in March and April.

Are temps in the high 20's and low 30's common in NZ during the summer.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/08/2006 09:43

NZ has quite a maritime climate, with a lack of continental features unlike how the UK can get it coming off mainland Europe.

Central Otago would be our only continental micro-climate.
Yeah Steve those temperatures are quite common in the East of NZ when a foehn nor'wester wind is blowing, stretching right from East Cape to Invercargill City. wink

Nice partly cloudy day here after 9mm overnight and mild on 15C laugh

Turoa's new depth of snow is 265cm cool
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/08/2006 22:42

Another few couple of fronts due today.. the MS have a few rain warnings out for Central NZ.. just moderate rain so far on the West Coast.
A weak trough today brought heavy showers onto Fiordland, while it was nice and warm elsewhere.

Tmax: Kaitaia, Bay of Islands - 19C
Min-Tmax: Milford Sound - 6C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/08/2006 21:31

Yesterday saw a couple of messy fronts move through over Aotearoa, with very heavy rain over Wellington and isolated evening thunderstorms north of Auckland.

Today was mainly fine over NZ, just some showers about Eastland due to an on-shore SSW.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 18C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru, Gore - 9C

Outlook is fine and frosty laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/08/2006 14:04

Fine everywhere except on the west coast of the SI and of course in Auckland where it remains mostly cloudy with SW strong in the afternoon.
Temp in Christchurch 18
Wellington 16
Auckland 15
Posted by: isoboy

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/08/2006 20:46

Great thread! I've always been very interested in NZ weather. This is a bit random, but just wondering if anyone can tell me how often it snows in the cities of Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin. Snow is a big interest of mine, particularly in major urban centres. I'm guessing it's quite rare in Wellington, but may happen on a yearly (at least) basis in the other two...
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/08/2006 23:00

Timaru got to 22C today, Alexandra 20C, Dunedin/Christchurch 20C thanks to the foehn.. warming up! cool

On average, Dunedin City (73m) sees 6.7 days a year of snow with counts peaking during August.

Christchurch City (7m) sees 2.4 with counts peaking during July.

Wellington is hard as the topography varies greatly.. The Metro rises from sea level up to about 160m in the west to Karori.. so the airport at on the south coast at 6m sees 0.5 days a year, while Karori can see up to 5 days p/a.
Winters in Wellington can be incredibly uncomforting with the bitter channeling southerly gales taking that windchill right down. Any snow in Wellington is quite shortlived as it's quite wind-blown and isolated.

Waiouru on the North Island Central Plateau (823m) sees 16 days a year on average.

Outlook is fine, fine fine! laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/08/2006 14:28

Again similar to yesterday with even stronger SW and 8/8 in Auckland with a high of 14
Wellington Fresh NW and 15 and fine
Christchurch mainly fine with a moderate NE 15
Westcoast some drizzel especially Westland south and cloudy from Manawatu to Northland
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/08/2006 22:13

Umm where do you get your observations from?

Officially, Auckland: 16C
Wellington: 18C
Christchurch: 19C
Posted by: isoboy

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/08/2006 22:16

Thanks Willoughby! Has it ever snowed in Auckland? Is there a site that has stats on things like annual # of snow days in NZ centres?
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/08/2006 23:08

Yes! And here too! 27 July 1939, up to North Cape!
3rd page on this link there's a good write up on it.
http://www.civildefence.govt.nz/memwebsi...-Snowstorms.pdf


I assume you've heard about the great Canterbury snowstorm on June 12 of this year... laugh laugh

NIWA have put out a great summary of the event... well worth a read at 3.5mb
http://www.niwascience.co.nz/pubs/mr/archive/2006-07-04-1-/canterbury_snow_storm_june_2006.pdf

Yes, there is only one site I know of that shows (limited) climate averages/snow days.
http://www.geography.otago.ac.nz/nzclimate/

Looks like our fine weather has turned to anti-cyclonic gloom coming off the Tasman.. here atleast.

:cheers:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/08/2006 14:29

Another miserable cold day with strong SW in Auckland with 8/8 and drizzel in the afternoon.High 14c

Wellington better with 14 and NW strong at times but mainly fine

Christchurch variable winds tending NE to NNW and fine 18
Very windy in far south and some eastern regions today,Fine almost everywhere except north western areas in the NI
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/08/2006 21:25

Kaikoura got to 24C to end Winter!

Looks like more high temps on the way over NZ this weekend with flow tending dominant northwesterly.
Posted by: Vinnie

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2006 17:22

if "climate change" is making australia dryer and warmer what is it doing to new zealand Willoughby
?
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2006 19:52

Well the climate is changing all the time, but within the next 10-15 years, NIWA expect an increase of La Nina-liike conditions which would see it become much wetter in the east, i.e Auckland, Northland, Bay of Plenty to Gisborne.. with an increase of depressions of (sub)tropical-origin.

NIWA have called for a cold Summer this year.. but I think they'll be way off the mark there, as usual.. hence the name No Idea What's Ahead xD

Anyway, over the next 80 years they expect a solid increase in westerly weather, much wetter in the west, and much drier in the east. And an expectation that periods of El Nino will be more pronounced which could result in lengthy droughts from Otago to Hawke's Bay. (one may be just around the corner!)

Snow line retreating, Winter should see the highest standard deviations (++) amongst other seasons.. frosts decreasing, southern glaciers such as Fox, Franz Josef etc continuing to melt. Heavier rainfall, as said due to a warmer atmosphere which can potentially hold much more moisture.. anywhere in NZ is at risk for this with a drying continent such as Australia being far away.
Very cold months imminent due the warming globe's 'pressure explosions'.. sending cold air up. This June is a good example.

Warm to start September (again!)... with northwesterles, sunny change today in Auckland/Waikato.
Severe gales continuing in the south.. heavy rain forecast in the SW..

Tmax: Dunedin Ap - 22C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 12C

Quote:
SEVERE GALES IN FIORDLAND AND FROM SOUTHLAND TO CANTERBURY. HEAVY
RAIN IN FIORDLAND AND WESTLAND.
A deep low will move over the area far to the south of the South
Island on Saturday morning with an associated front moving onto the
South Island. MetService is warning of severe northwest gales ahead
of the front affecting Fiordland, Southland and Otago overnight and
in the morning, and Canterbury from early morning to afternoon on
Saturday. Winds in some parts of these areas could gust to 130 km/h
at times with the potential to bring down power lines and trees,
lift roofing and make driving conditions hazardous.
On the west Coast the front is likely to bring a burst of heavy rain
in Fiordland in the morning and Westland in the afternoon. Although
forecast amounts of up to 90mm are not exceptional for these areas
most of the rain will fall in about 6 hours so streams and rivers
could rise rapidly.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/09/2006 20:58

Cloudy 8/8 surprise again,no wind 15

Wellington 16 with fresh NNW
Christchurch Gale NW in the pm with 21

Fine in east and some rain on the west SI coast and of course cloudy in Auckland
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/09/2006 16:12

Much improvement on both the weeks cloudiness and temps.Was 19 in Auckland,

Wellington 16 with NNW and partly cloudy

Christchurch cooler ENE and fine 14

Westcoast some showers to the west and south otherwise PC in the west of the NI
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/09/2006 18:04

Yes a very warm day again! Dewpoints up to 13C for Auckland/Hamilton.. some nice T/Cu developing.

Tmax: Blenheim, Alexandra - 21C
Min-Tmax: Milford Sounds, Timaru - 13C

Incredibly quick season changes in Southland and Otago.
Posted by: Seabreeze

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/09/2006 22:37

I hope them 20C days start becoming a more common occurrance on the northern NI. Ah well at least it's not -20C :rolleyes:
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/09/2006 23:11

I hope not Ezzzzz.. want to keep those NI skifields packed right up to xmas! cool

Another warm day in the east with the foehn blowing.. Some heavy rain on the SI West Coast with an active cold front. Partly cloudy with local convergance brought the odd shower in the North. High cloud in the east of the SI. Fine and sunny over the North Island's East.

Tmax: Kaikoura (Canterbury) - 23C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru, Westport, Hokitika, Queenstown, Milford Sound - 14C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/09/2006 22:27

A trough of low pressure swung a strong cold front over the West of the South Island.. but it's breaking up quickly as it reached here. Humid northerly air is delivering isolated heavy showers in the east from Bay of Plenty to Northland at the moment. Dry day in the east.

Tmax: Kaitaia, Napier, Hastings, Hanmer Springs - 20C
Min-Tmax: Gore - 11C
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/09/2006 18:41

Its good to see it starting to heat up already, I am sure you guys must be loving it, gives you a chance to thaw out! smile

I'm going to NZ at the end of the year and naturally have been trawling through the weather history pages that the Metservice have trying to get a better understanding of what to expect. I will be visiting Wellington, Nelson and good ole' Auckland and it appears that the weather in all 3 places can be quite different even on the same day.

Looks as though your Summers can be fairly interesting, a lot more variable and unsettled than I first thought. With the occasional storm and/or heatwave, it should be fun. smile Also the Nelson area is the sunniest in NZ apparently so that is good news, though might mean I will have to share it with all you kiwis! :p smile

It will mean I would visited some part of your little island in every season, so far Winter has been the best smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/09/2006 22:06

Yes smile Nelson is very sunny due to thick sheltering from the SW-half.. still doesn't get anything like the sunshine hours of Perth!

Bursts of heavy rain early this morning from Northland to BoP.. Mostly fine in the west of the NI, in fact fine everywhere else, just cloud clearing over Southland.

Tmax: Napier - 22C
Min-Tmax: Gore - 10C
-----------------------

Some extremes over the last 7 days...
Code:
Highest
Rainfall:    Milford Sound   72.8mm   4th
Temperature: Oamaru          23.7C   2nd
Sunshine:    Ashburton       10.7     3rd
Gust:        Mid Dome        183km/h  2nd

Lowest
Temperature: Waiouru         -2C     31st
Grass Temp:  Ashburton       -4.4C   3rd
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/09/2006 22:25

Hey nowhere gets as much sunshine as Perth! wink thats why there are so many Kiwis here smile

Where do you get that extremes data from? I find the metservice site extremely painful to navigate, though it has improved. Oh and is Mid Dome on mainland NZ?
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/09/2006 23:05

From the NZ Herald newspaper :rolleyes: .

The MetService site is quite crap to say the least, but then again it's what you expect from a tax-payer funded privatised comapany with a monopoly. mad mad

Mid Dome is at 1120m asl in Canterbury in the Alps at Mt John. smile Pic..
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2006 10:57

Ahh cheers Willoughby! smile I take it from that you just love the Metservice! :p I have heard that a previous government sold off a whole lot of government companies and now you guys are suffering as a result.

Ahh Mt John, I have heard of that place before, gets some very serious winds up there indeed, it holds the record for NZ doesnt it at something like 250km/hr?
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2006 12:31

yer kiwis like me tim :p
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2006 13:21

yeah and my gf and now her sister and I am sure the rest of the family will soon follow, kinda like sheep... :p smile

Though Squiddy, your moving to QLD, the other very popular place for Kiwis looking to thaw out. smile
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2006 20:08

that it is, and then i can post up the storms there without turning into a typicall east coaster wink
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/09/2006 15:22

Mostly fine over the country with light winds in most,predominantly westerly furthur south and variable on the south island eastcoast.Theres a large low coming across from NSW with rain in the NI and some drizzel possible to the east of SI but dry furthur south due to a ridge and and easterly flow.
Auckland 16c with some high cloud
Wellington 15c and fine with light NW
Christchurch calm and 13
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/09/2006 14:35

Quite wet and miserable today thanks to the warm front

Quote:
SEVERE WEATHER WATCH FOR NORTHLAND AUCKLAND COROMANDEL PENINSULA BAY
OF PLENTY GISBORNE HAWKES BAY WAIRARAPA
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 1156hrs 09-Sep-2006

HEAVY FALLS OF RAIN EXPECTED IN THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE NORTH
ISLAND

A large low over the Tasman Sea is moving towards the top of the
country. Rain associated with this low is already spreading south
over the North Island. Within this rain, thunderstorms are likely to
give some areas short heavy bursts today and Sunday. Although it
appears that it will not reach warning criteria, MetService will
continue this watch for the Coromandel Peninsula and Bay of Plenty.
These areas may still see localised heavy falls of 10 to 20mm in an
hour. In Northland and Auckland, the threat of rainfall near warning
criteria has eased and the watch is now lifted for these districts.

A cold front moving up the country is set to interact with the low
over northern Hawkes Bay and southern Gisborne early Sunday. A
rainfall warning has been issued for these areas. The remaining
areas of Gisborne and Hawkes Bay may also see an extended period of
rain and the watch will be maintained although amounts are not as
likely to reach warning criteria.

People in these areas should keep up to date with the latest
forecasts and check if further areas in this watch are upgraded to a
warning.

The threat of prolonged rain over the Tararua District and Wairarapa
has eased and these areas are no longer on watch.
Hopefully some thunderstorms this evening.. dewpoints already up to 17C over Northland behind the front. cool
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/09/2006 06:01

Yesterday the Rain cleared to high cloud and moderate SE died out (in Auckland) and furthur north,this mornings low of 4c which is below normal due to clear skies but unfortunately a SW flow is arriving bringing showers later and wind.The rest of the country was fine with light winds apart from a WSW at the bottom of the SI.Again most of the country will be fine apart from showers on the SI west coast and again deteroting weather to 8/8 late today in the north and west with SW and a slight SW flick in the Otago area later today
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/09/2006 22:07

Mainly fine across the upper north under a southwest flow, just some late showers. Cloud and showers developed over Canterbury/Otago with constant showers around Southland. Wet day on the SI West Coast.

Of course today's main talking point was the meteorite-sonic BOOM! eek

Quote:
Meteorite most likely cause of boom, observatory says

UPDATED 4.30pm Tuesday September 12, 2006


A meteorite is believed to have burned up over Canterbury today before slamming into the ground.

A loud boom heard throughout the region was most likely to be the meteorite, up to the size of a medicine ball, Stardome Observatory in Auckland said.

The loud boom was heard over Canterbury, with sightings as far apart as Hanmer Springs in North Canterbury, and Hinds in Mid-Canterbury.

Initial reports had come through the police communications system, with follow-ups from eyewitness accounts.

>> Readers report: Sonic boom in Christchurch

A Christchurch Fire Communications spokesman said the first calls from the public started at 2.53pm today, with people reporting windows rattling and the air "shaking".

Observatory spokesman Andrew Buckingham said: "We're still finding out what's going on".

"It sounds like a large meteor coming down... soccer ball size upwards," Mr Buckingham said.

It was more likely to be one large rock entering the earth's atmosphere as a fireball, rather than a meteor shower.

The boom was either the meteor breaking the sound barrier or exploding as it burned up.

- NZPA
Today's Tmax: Kaitaia, Dargaville, Ashburton, Darfield - 19C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 9C
smile
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 14:52

Fine almost everywhere except Auckland and northwards where the Southwesterly remained king and was strong in the morning with a pathetic 14c max and continual showery activity.
Elsewhere the country enjoyed sunny weather apart from some afternoon cloud in the east from Hawkes Bay to Wellington and few showers to the far south of the country.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 17:14

NZAAS:- Thats wrong. It was sunny in Auckland today with some cloud at times and certainly NO showers at all.
Posted by: GraemeWi

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 17:21

There were showers today in Auckland, and not much sun... I could rush outside and take a photo of my car which is still wet! 3mm in my rain gauge.

Graeme
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 17:28

Well,I have access to a web-cam for Auckland, I look at it every half an hr and it showed the sun shining most of the time with some clouds, and no showers.
Posted by: Seabreeze

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 17:30

There were probably showers but they were isolated and not continual. Unlike NZASS who said there was continual showers.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 17:35

U're right Ezzz, that could be it, 3mm is nothing compared to what we had here over the last couple of days.
Posted by: GraemeWi

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 17:42

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Well,I have access to a web-cam for Auckland, I look at it every half an hr and it showed the sun shining most of the time with some clouds, and no showers.
I can assure you that there were many showers today in Auckland. My desk looks out over the inner harbour and the central city, and every time I looked up from my work there was a shower around.

Whats the url of the webcam - I'd be interested to see where it is situated and why it didn't show rain.

G
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 19:42

The web-cam is from Ponsonby, it is set-up from a friends place, I am not allowed to reveal the URL due to privacy and security reasons, but I find it very reliable.

The camera never lies, so Im only saying what I saw on the web-cam today, showed the sun shining with some clouds, but didnt see any contuinal showers.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/09/2006 21:34

Michael (NZAAS) does tend to fudge the reports from his beloved-Auckland, which I think brings nothing at all of value here.

But today was a wet one rainfan i'm afraid up in the big smoke..
See
Auckland Ap Observations
And
the rolling webcam playback from the Manukau Heads.
http://www.weather-display.com/windy/gb/lastdayvideo.htm


Tmax today: New Plymouth - 19C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru, Gore, Hanmer Springs,
Darfield - 10C
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/09/2006 06:03

Yes he can speak his mind so should I,Wonder what values hes speaking of
Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Michael (NZAAS) does tend to fudge the reports from his beloved-Auckland, which I think brings nothing at all of value here.

Posted by: Matt Pearce

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/09/2006 07:11

I think he is referring to the fact that very often your reports seem to overplay the fact that Auckland is cold and/or wet when every other report from there suggests far less dramatic conditions

As to the webcam thing, I find it a bit laughable that someone in Sydney could claim adamantly that someone on the ground (Graeme I am talking about) in Auckland is wrong about the conditions in Auckland simply because something was not visible in the camera's field of view.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/09/2006 21:51

A mostly fine, dry and warm day about over NZ, late-winter frost damaged a few Hawke's Bay fruit orchards this morning.. helicopters were doing their thing. Sea-breeze convergance brought the odd heavy shower about Auckland City. Few showers rolling in from the SE over Northland under a very weak trough.

Tmax: Alexandra - 22C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 11C
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/09/2006 10:12

Well the forecast is overated again,its now midday,the sun has shone for a generous 10 minutes with drizzel so far and the 15kt wind forecasted by the forecasters is at least gusts of 30 or 35knots and looks like a bleak windswept scene off the countryside Eastenders sitcom and a sultry 14c
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/09/2006 13:44

Anyway on to N.Z weather it was the usual,fine over 75% of the country today like in Christchurch with a N and 21c,Wellington 16 and a NW with afternoon high cloud and as usual Auckland near the bottom of the heap with 8/8 and a fresh cold SW and 14 degrees and drizzel.
Westcoast SI had drizzel/rain to the south but rest of the SI warm with mainly fine weather,morning cloud SW of NI but cleared to fine with fresh westerlies however in a line from north taranaki to Auckland overcast and fine elsewhere
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/09/2006 17:32

Weather here marginally better with a fresh WSW and the sun shone a little in the afternoon! before it clouded over again with a high of 15 here and for the rest of the country 20 in Christchurch ahead of a weak SW change in the afternoon and Wellington gusty winds from NNW to WNW and mostly fine with 17
Cloudy in the west and south where the cold WSW blew in Invercargill and in the west of the north island from Levin north it was generally cloudy but fine in the east.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/09/2006 09:49

looks like you are going to be back the the W Sw winds again soon
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/09/2006 14:52

They permnantly here 24/7
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/09/2006 15:22

Again same old... Cloudy here 8/8 Strong SW low 12 high 15c

Wellington completely fine not a cloud,gusty NW 16c

Christchurch moderate NE 14 fine

Cloudy with showers on the SI westcoast and the usual wind in Auckland that never stops with 8/8 especially in the west but fine elsewhere over 80% of the country
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/09/2006 16:24

We've been having them for a while now squid.

Though looks like a change to warmerr northwesterlies over NZ by mid-week.

Some big hailstorms through over Southland and Coastal Otago overnight, was a fresh & fine day here. cool

Tmax: Kaitaia, Bay of Islands, Gisborne, Napier - 19C
Min-Tmax: Gore - 6C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/09/2006 22:52

Mostly dry and cool again with gusty west southwesterlies over most of NZ, northwesterlies in the east.

Set to be extremely wet over Fiordland and Westland over the next week.

Tmax: Kaitaia, Napier, Ashburton, Timaru, Oamaru - 18C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 9C
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/09/2006 17:29

Cloudy at times in Auckland with a few hours of fine weather between that.Low 9 to 15 Westerlies
Wellington became cloudy with strong NW and 15
Christchurch moderate NE and 19 Fine

A strong to gale WNW flow lies over the country and brought some rain to the westcoast today and showers to the N&W of the NI tonight with westerlies and then stronger NW in the south tomorrow
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/09/2006 16:10

A better day with just a few clouds but the sun prevailed low 10 High 18 moderate WNW

Wellington had 18 and sunny with a moderate NWer and Christchurch a ENE and 13.

A strong WNW flow covers the country with rain in the westcoast of the SI and drizzel likely in the SW of the NI but fine with cloudy areas furthur north or completely fine in the east of both islands
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/09/2006 23:17

Strong cold front hitting SW SI now laugh
MetService are on watch for the risk of tornadoes as it tracks through Westland and Buller.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/currentweather/satellites.jsp?state=NZ
Shows up well. cool

Dunedin sitting on a massive 17C at 1am! cool
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/09/2006 18:23

Foehn very active today, Kaikoura was on 21C at 3am! Some heavy rain on the West Coast south island and thunderstorms duing the early hours of the morning. Warm northwesterlies over the upper NI, very nice and warm once the cloud broke.

More heavy rain on the way for the West Coast, SI.. possible thunder on the way tomorrow for the central North Island.

Today's Tmax: Napier - 25C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru - 14C
Posted by: Papy_Zapy

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/09/2006 08:19

I am in Auckland ATM. Nice Partly cloudy and mild day.

I have been here for 2 days and the weather has been great!
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/09/2006 20:36

Yes Papy it has been nice! (notice that NZAAS doesn't post when the weather is great? lol) laugh Stiff northwesterlies are carrying that hot NSW air over the Tasman Sea very nicely!

Same weather pattern set to continue dominating with equnioxial westerlies.. heavy rain in the southwest, dry and warm in the east.

Tmax: Napier - 25C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru, Milford Sound - 13C
Posted by: flip

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/09/2006 22:39

You can have some more if you like! Dp's here are well into the neg's with temps getting into 30s' fairly consistently atm. Looks like that pattern is going to stay for a while longer at least till mondayish so I'm guessing you can expect reasonably similar type of weather!
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/09/2006 21:35

Yes.. but the thunderstorms are taking their time up here!
Another warm day over NZ with westerlies.. active cold front is delivering heavy rain and thunderstorms to Fiordland and Southland presently. Some drizzle in the NW of NZ from some anti-cyclonic gloom.

Tmax: Alexandra - 25C
Min-Tmax: Haast - 12C
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/09/2006 03:18

When do you think NZ will reach 30C for the first time this spring, or does it not usually happen until summer.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/09/2006 10:28

If this westerly regime continues.. give it just one month and some place like Christchurch or Kaikoura could come out trumps! smile

MetService report over 28,000 strikes from that thundery cold front last night.. thunderstorms were very elevated so they could spill over the ranges easily.. SWEAT index was progged in the Fiordland region last night to 460! eek
Could easily have been a few damaging tornadoes there, but population there on the 300km coast is about 0 to Milford. frown
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/09/2006 20:26

WARM and sunny over much of NZ today.. laugh just some cloud being pushed onto Manawatu (N of Wellington) and showers into Westland and Buller regions.

Tmax: Napier, Gisborne - 25C
Min-Tmax: Oamaru - 12C

Very wet spell continuing over Fiordland and Westland over the next few days.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/09/2006 06:23

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Yes Papy it has been nice! (notice that NZAAS doesn't post when the weather is great? lol) laugh Stiff northwesterlies are carrying that hot NSW air over the Tasman Sea very nicely!

Same weather pattern set to continue dominating with equnioxial westerlies.. heavy rain in the southwest, dry and warm in the east.

Tmax: Napier - 25C
Min-Tmax: Waiouru, Milford Sound - 13C
Yeah I noticed LOL, must be mourning the lack of his beloved SW weather. Good to see NZ having warmer weather, heard that even Invercargill had 21oC, which would be very high for this time of the year.
Posted by: norfolk

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/09/2006 17:18

to all the NZ'ers smile

very close friends of mine will be spending 2 weeks on the South Island visiting Christchurch, Dunedin, Queenstown, Invercargill, the SW Fiords and everywhere else in between(dont ask me how they are going to fit everything into 2 weeks!!!!)

They have a few questions about the weather in that area of NZ for February.

1. How warm could it get and what are the averages?

2. Possibility of snow on the highest peaks of the area?

3. Is it a more dry or wet time of the year?

4. Any other weather information they may need to know about the south of the south island?

Thanks to all

Tony
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/09/2006 17:44

Heard that some high temperatures recorded in Otago/Southland today, possible broken long-standing records with 25oC at Dunedin and 23oC at Invercargill.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/09/2006 21:47

Yes! Like record breaking temps across the ditch, they're breaking here too!
Heavy rain now moving up Fiordland and Westland along another cold front. Humid over the upper North Island today.. dewpoints to 14C with mostly sunny skies. smile

Tmax: Alexandra, Dunedin - 25C
Min-Tmax: Haast - 14C

To your questions Norfolk..
Quote:
1. How warm could it get and what are the averages?
Depends when in February.. but in Feb the maximums can be anything in between for..
Christchurch: 18 - 30C
Dunedin: 18 - 29C
Queenstown: 18 - 27C
Invercargill: 16 - 21C

60km SE of Queenstown lies Alexandra.. not much there but it does get hot there, can get up to 37C easily under the right conditions in the peak of the summer. The Canterbury Nor'wester can also bring very hot weather to Canterbury, not good if you're a foehn sufferer.

Quote:
2. Possibility of snow on the highest peaks of the area?
90% chance, 16 mountains in the Alps are above 3000m, average freezing level tends to be around 2900m during Feb. February can get cold in the south.

Quote:
3. Is it a more dry or wet time of the year?
Dry, but then again Milford Sounds average 500mm during February. wink

Quote:
4. Any other weather information they may need to know about the south of the south island?
SHARP regional micro-climates. The sea-breeze down there can kick off some nice hailstorms once a cold upper-pool moves up. smile
The weather in the south can be very unpredicatble.. even in the best month.
Posted by: norfolk

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/09/2006 23:20

thanks for the info willoughby, i knew from the heights of the southern alps that there are many microclimates in the area.
I will pass this info to my friends and again thanks

Tony
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/09/2006 10:51

Hey Kiwis, what happened to the New Zealand weather forum, the url I have, www.templeton.gen.nz/forum goes to some weather station? confused

By the way, I am the real Mr Frink here! damn imposter above :rolleyes: laugh :cheers:
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/09/2006 13:29

lol, try here. smile
Posted by: Tim S

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/09/2006 14:46

Ahh cheers for that Willoughby smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/09/2006 21:40

Early fog over Auckland to Waikato shut the international and domestic airports. A stalled warm front pushed into Horowhenua and central NZ districts causing persistent rain.
Becoming unstable in the north, afternoon showers on the way here with warm temperatures and higher dewpoints. Sunny in the south and far north, drizzle about north Canterbury.

Tmax: Kaitaia - 23C
Min-Tmax: Masterton, Palmerston North - 12C
Posted by: GraemeWi

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/09/2006 19:46

The much hoped for instability didn't fire in the Auckland region. Cbs reported from Northland, South Waikato / Bay of Plenty.

Cu trying very hard to climb - the Auckland CBD around 2.30pm

View from the office looking South-West

Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/09/2006 20:55

Increasingly unstable conditions brought weak thunderstorms to W Auckland, NE Waikato and the Coromandel Peninsular today.
1st two photos are taken by Simon Williams of Auckland, and last one myself. smile


Funnel in the centre.


Active thunderstorm to the NE of here.


Fine elsewhere, though further rain about Horowhenua.

Tmax: Hastings - 24C
Min-Tmax: Dunno? confused

Further convective showers on the way here tomorrow, then it looks like thunderstorms on Sunday with an active upper trough. laugh
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/10/2006 20:13

Into DST now.
Well today, severe thunderstorms developed with added convergance to West Auckland bringing a tornado and some pretty bad flooding.. ahead of a digging trough.

Thought this was one awesome photo! (By Simon Williams again over Auckland)


Quote:
Issued by MetService at 08:03pm 01-Oct-2006

MORE HEAVY RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS HEADING FOR NORTHLAND AUCKLAND AND
COROMANDEL PENINSULA TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING.

The line of thunderstorms that brought heavy downpours and flooding to parts
of Northland and Auckland this afternoon has weakened. However, a
front with another line of active thunderstorms will reach Northland
by midnight and move down over Auckland and Coromandel Peninsula
during Monday morning. Rainfall totals of upto 60mm are expected for
Northland and Auckland, but much of this could be concentrated in
heavy downpours in just a couple of hours. Rainfall totals for the
Coromandel Peninsula could reach 100mm before easing during Monday
afternoon.
laugh laugh laugh

Tmax: Napier, Hasting - 23C
Min-Tmax: Timaru - 11C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/10/2006 21:12

Further heavy rain and thunderstorms plummeted again the upper North Island today with the trough; Auckland being the worst effected..


Rain developing over the central east of NZ with the low.. sea fog over Wellington shut the airport. Fine and sunny in the far south.

Set for more thunderstorms tomorrow. smile

Some extremes over the last week...
Code:
 
HIGHEST
Raiinfall (mm)      Milford Sound   115.2  25th
Temperature (C)    Napier           25.1  24th
Sunshine (hours)    Nelson           11.4  29th
Wind gust (km/h)    Castlepoint     132.0  24th 

LOWEST
Temperature         Manapouri        -2.9  27th
Grass Temperature   Invercargill     -5.0  27th
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/10/2006 07:54

Some thundery showers about Waikato yesterday.. the target area seems to be Northland and Auckland again. Strong SSW gales about the Cook Strait so far this morning.. NZWN averaging 76km/h! eek
Rain there and also some heavy falls in Canterbury with snow to 600m. Sunny in the south again with it being very warm in the west with the foehn wind.
Posted by: GraemeWi

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/10/2006 14:47

Today was quite nice - it started with some attractive cbs around over Auckland in the morning and a great looking chain of cbs in the afternoon





Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/10/2006 16:52

Wintry Blast hitting NZ, gales (up to 100km/hr) in Wellington have closed the ferries crossing Cook Strait and some flights have been cancelled due to the extreme winds, also people advised to take extreme care whilst driving. Snow expected in many South Island areas, with some frosts of below zero also expected, with heavy rain in Christchurch causing some local floodings.
Posted by: Twisters

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/10/2006 17:35

Those pics are great looks like a great week of weather over that way here just dry dusty and 30c love redaing what is going on great pics there to
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/10/2006 05:34

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3818411a10,00.html


(About the cold snap thats lashing NZ at the moment)
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/10/2006 12:00

wow, that's rough and brings back a lot of memories from when I lived in NZ many years ago, weather like that was not uncommon. Can't say I miss it.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/10/2006 13:38

Its been sunny in Auckland today with a light wind however in the afternoon its now beebop ie mostly fine with a cool SSW and few passing clouds.High 16c

Wellington Strong to gale gusty S and about 10 degrees and showery and fresh SSW in Christchurch and 10c too,All western areas fine and sunny today but showery with southerlies from Eastcape to Canterbury and Wellington and into the SW of the NI in the morning
Posted by: Vinnie

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/10/2006 15:25

now that you guys too are heading into summer and days are getting longercould i ask

is daylight saving now applicable to nz

ie have you put your clocks forward?
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/10/2006 16:22

yes wish we could think about summer warmth :)the clocks went forward on the 1st and go back on the 18 march next year
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/10/2006 20:19

Heavy rain today in the SW of NZ, with severe gales about the south coast including Dunedin. Fine elsewhere, but the westerly winds were a bit brisk!

Recently it was confirmed that Mt Ruapehu erupted, shooting ash up to just 200m above the crater, first time since the eruptions of '95/'96.. but the GNS are saying it is probably very premature this event.

Ahead to tomorrow and it looks set to get icy again... smile
Quote:

WINTRY BLAST ON THE WAY FOR THE DEEP SOUTH LATE MONDAY AND INTO TUESDAY

A front is forecast to cross the deep south Sunday evening followed by cold
showery weather and snow lowering to 600 metres for a time. However, even colder
conditions are expected late Monday and into Tuesday, with snow likely down to
300 metres in Fiordland, Southland and southern parts of Otago.
Although amounts of snow may not reach warning levels, farmers should note that
the combination of snow, bitterly cold temperatures and strong winds is expected
to put extreme stress on new born lambs and calves.
Also, travellers in these areas should be prepared for possible snow on inland
roads, including the northern motorway out of Dunedin.
Conditions should improve in these areas later on Tuesday and into Wednesday.
-MetService
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/10/2006 21:50

A deep low is moving up from the SW generating thunder and hailstorms and snow as we speak.. LAPS has progged thickness down to 518dm over Dunedin at 4am this morning. eek
We just had a weak front pass over delivering ~4mm over most of the NI.

SWW's are in place for heavy snow with falls to 300m over Southland, Otago and Fiordland, very bad news for the baby lambs!
Strong gusty southwesterlies look set to burst over NZ today.

Some extremes again for the past week..
Code:
HIGHEST
Rainfall (mm)      Auckland       72.4   1st
Temperature (C)   Hastings       23.1   1st
Sunshine (hours)   Ashburton      12.3   6th
Wind gust (km/h)   Brothers Is.  145.0   4th

LOWEST
Temperature        Waiouru        -4.6   7th
Grass temperature  Dunedin        -6.1   6th
Too bad this cold snap will be quite short lived.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/10/2006 13:27

Cold wet and with Gale SW and a miserable high of 13 degrees in Auckland with frequent squally showers or rain.
Wellington much better and mostly sunny with lighter WSW and 14c
Christchurch mostly sunny and little wind mostly westerly and 16c
Westcoast and Southland showery also some light snow in the Otago region,wet in the west and north of the NI with W or SW in the north but sunnier to the east with westerlies
Posted by: bogong

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/10/2006 15:44

As I posted in the SE Australian heatwave thread, I am interested in the possible impact that the high 850 temps may have in New Zealand - particularly those places to the east of the Alps or high ground such as Christchurch, Wellington, Gisborne, Napier etc.

With 850 temps of around 16 forecast at times between Thursday and Saturday plus a bit of foehn effect thrown in, there could be some unusually high October temps - perhaps even getting close to 30C. Although in saying this, I note the "official" forecasts are only suggesting low 20s.

Whatever, it will certainly be a contrast to the current low level snowfalls over many parts of the country!!
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/10/2006 21:41

Hey Bogong.. yes it will be QUITE a contrast!
Snow to sea level just SW of Dunedin, and 10cm of new snow at Turoa today.. tally there is 210cm again! laugh

Yes, looking at very unusually high temperatures, rocketing to ~29C in the inland Canterbury region, 27 about Napier/Hastings.. Wellington doesn't get a foehn wind like the other eastern centres, so just a high of about 18C there.

Spring is crazy. laugh
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/10/2006 07:19

Do the sea breezes around the coastal towns in NZ keep the temperatures down compared to inland areas during hot spells, if so, by how much?

Many times in the weather forecast this summer, the forecasters said "If you want to escape the heat, head for the coasts"
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/10/2006 08:47

Yes especially if in enhanced by a pressure wind ie if the high is just north of here it enhances the SW seabreeze wheres in winter it would be calm.
Christchurch can have the ENE enhanced and keeps the them down if the NW doesnt reach them.

The only real inland area is in central otago or Taumaranui and others get the fohn on the coast.

It can be say 36 in Alexandra wheres it could be 21 deg in nearby coastal Dunedin for instance in an anticyclonic spell in January.

Cant remember when they say head to the coast as when its hot here,it can often be more humid in coastal areas too and then when it is hot all the cities try to vie for the highest temperature to say theyre hotter
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/10/2006 14:35

A cold day in Auckland,slightly less windier with strong SW and mostly cloudy and a few showers,Low 7 to 14
Wellington NW fresh and high at 16
Christchurch as usual rebounds with 21 and light winds.
Cloudy as always in the west north of Mt egmont and fine and sunny in the east with passing clouds in Wellington and also on the West coast and about Southland
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/10/2006 14:32

the SW go on but leaving only high cloud with 11 to 16 deg
Wellington strong NW and 16 with fine weather and Christchurch NW at gale for a time with 24

Fine almost everywhere but cloudy on the west coast and some high cloud in the west and north
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/10/2006 21:39

Set to be HOT today with gale northwesterlies raising the fire danger to extreme!

Dunedin City just shot up to 22C at 12.30am! shocked

Thanks Australia - we tend to welcome this heat! laugh
Posted by: bogong

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/10/2006 22:09

Dunedin's temp is amazing... I hope they enjoy it as with 850 temps set to fall below -4 by the start of next week, they may be soon be back to sleet!!
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/10/2006 10:03

They were on 25C at 9am, now up to 29C with gale foehn nor'westers starting to damage property. eek Crazy temps.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/10/2006 10:26

Expected to be 25-29oC for all eastern areas of both islands today,with hot, dry NW winds (thats something we have in common-the hot, dry NW winds LOL).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/10/2006 13:36

Weather today Strong SW as always with 13 to 17 but dry at least PC.
Wellington Strong gusty NW and 20
Christchurch 25 with NW gale at times with Dunedin getting 28c with storm force winds from the NW.Wet with northerlies on the westcoast and PC in the west and north of the NI
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/10/2006 15:37

Gisborne, (Eastland) taking top honours today..
NZGS METAR 130200Z 35010KT 310V020 60KM FEW300 30/11 Q1016
cool
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/10/2006 14:57

Fresh WSW and low 13 to 18 max and mostly sunny in Auckland,Wellington reached 14 with strong NNW and mostly cloudy and Christchurch sunny with a fresh NNE and 21

Rain on the westcoast and cloudy periods in the southwest of the NI and about Wellington,Fine eleswhere but warm in NI eastern areas
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/10/2006 14:42

The calmest day of the week with WNW fresh but remained cloudy and rather cold with 17 and will be enjoying another week of average or below average next week as another high pressure in the tasman sits there delivering us more SW gales,Wellington drizzly rain and strong NW and westerlies and sunny in Christchurch with 19
Wet in the westcoast and south of New Plymouth in the west but mainly fine elsewhere with west or northwesterlies
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/10/2006 13:43

Another cold one in the north with Rain all day as well.Low 10 to 14.Light winds but the horrible SW not too far away now,
Wellington 15 and fine with moderate variable winds btween NW and SW
Christchurch was fine much of the day now become cooler with SW and cloud.High 14 earlier,

Showers on the west coast and rain spread up the westcoast with isolated falls east of the NI ranges and rained much of the day north of New Plymouth
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/10/2006 21:20

Some extremes over the past 7 days.

Code:
HIGHEST
Rainfall (mm)       Milford Sound   106.1   14th
Temperature (C)    Gisborne         30.4   13th 
Sunshine (hours)    Ashburton        12.0    8th
Wind gust (km/h)    Mid Dome        183.0   13th

LOWEST
Temperature         Mid Dome         -6.3   10th
Grass temperature   Ashburton        -5.7   10th
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/10/2006 16:14

Finally the weather in Auckland is better,infact the sunniest day this month so far,No rain and no clouds but the SSW was almost gale though and enjoyed it before another week of SW and cloud forecasted later this week and of course Labour weekend with Rain.Low was 8 high 16 degrees

Wellington strong southerlies and mostly cloudy 13 deg and showery in the east of the north island but fine elsewhere with southerlies
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/10/2006 18:25

20 knot mean wind speeds isn't 'almost gale' Michael. :rolleyes:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/10/2006 18:42

Just wondering NZAAS, what do you define a gale at ? in terms of km/hr?

Sunniest day of the month so far? Other days have also been sunny.
Posted by: The 1st Ben

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/10/2006 21:39

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Just wondering NZAAS, what do you define a gale at ? in terms of km/hr?

Winds with mean windspeed between 33 knots and 48 knots = c.61km/h to 89km/h.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/10/2006 05:50

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Just wondering NZAAS, what do you define a gale at ? in terms of km/hr?

Sunniest day of the month so far? Other days have also been sunny.
Perhaps I could be wrong on both counts but it was pretty windy here yesterday let alone all days in October have been 19 or less and as far as the sunshine,yes the 1st Fridays sun at the beginning of the month was probably equal with 17ths,there were a couple of sunny afternoons last week when the SW was so strong it blew the cloud apart but the rest of the time its been overcast or raining laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/10/2006 14:11

Yes we can never guess....Auckland 8/8 almost all day till now 5pm with a few light showers and that annoying constant SW low 10 to 15

Wellington light winds mostly NW and 16

Christchurch sunny with fresh NE 15

Partly cloudy on the westcoast and showers about the south coast and fine to the east.In the north island mostly fine or fine in the usual places except in the west from Taranaki to Northland where the SW again hammered
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 07:16

Ok.

Thats fine, the only thing I get confused about is when you say its a gale, yet watching the news there is no mention of gales and no reports of damage, reading NZ papers, no mention as well. Looking at the daily wind speeds for Auckland, the wind speeds arent that strong, which I conclude that no gales occurred. Please be more accurate in your reports as its often misleading to those who dont live there.
Posted by: TOM1111

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 07:33

his reports are always missleading as he says its blowing a gale and raining and other people from the area say its sunny and not windy.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 08:17

Well its total 8/8 here again with drizzle likely soon,guess you people over there miss wet/cloudy weather like we miss the sun.On 18 days it says we had 106.8 hrs of sun so far in October.that makes less than 6 hrs/day with currently 13 hour days this time of the year and nothings been over 19 plus most of those days are 17 or less and the wind has blown constantly all of those days from the SW apart from 2 days of somewhat lighter southerlies
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 08:31

Stop exaggerating NZASS, there have been some 20oC days recorded this month in Auckland. What do you expect, it is early spring after all and SW winds (not at gale-force) are common, so why moan and whine about it??? (This weather was forecast by Metservice so shouldnt surprise you). NZ is a country in the middle of a huge ocean so has a maritime climate, so you cant really compare NZ to Australia as Australia is a big country in terms of land-mass.

You have said its been very cloudy in Auckland this year, yet from NIWA summaries all months so far have been above average with some very sunnier than average months, so why moan about the lack of sun???
Posted by: KevD

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 09:01

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
On 18 days it says we had 106.8 hrs of sun so far in October.that makes less than 6 hrs/day
What on earth is wrong with that? 6 hours a day at this time of year is great smile I went an entire month in England a few years back where we didn't see the sun for 3 weeks...now that was depressing.
Posted by: Keith

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 09:11

NZAAS..if what you are posting in relation to observations is factually correct (and presumably it is), then well and good.

But do not forget that your information can readily be verified from other sources. You owe it to yourself more than anyone to ensure that what you post will not cause it to be viewed with skepticism by others who read it, as appears to have been the case recently.
:cheers:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/10/2006 14:40

Weather has improved during the afternoon,winds have dropped and tended WNW and the temp has gone up to 18,also the sun is out.Low was 11

Wellington fine at 1st but NW becoming strong and gusty with light rain arriving 14

Christchurch NW gales from time to time with fine weather and high 23

NW strong in the south island and about the lower 1/3 of the north island with rain about the west coast and a strong W change with showers to the far south,In the NI fine in Gisborne to Waiarapa with NW and mostly fine elsewhere with light rain in Wellington and cloudy in the SW disticts.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/10/2006 07:07

Well I have the facts in the NZ Herald,it reached 18.7 on the 9th of the month and thats the highest max this month so far,a couple were under 15 and the average is about 16.5 and in June we had a high amount 161 hours for 9.5 hour day lengths we had 180.6 hrs in Sept and currently 113 hrs on 19 days and after this drizzle goes it looks back to SW the rest of the month again so it doesnt look like a record breaker
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Stop exaggerating NZASS, there have been some 20oC days recorded this month in Auckland. You have said its been very cloudy in Auckland this year, yet from NIWA summaries all months so far have been above average with some very sunnier than average months, so why moan about the lack of sun???
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/10/2006 15:56

There is a web-site which tells the temps for Auckland every-day and 5 days have exceeded 20oC, so dont try and pull the wool over my eyes. I have many reliable sources of NZ weather, including relatives and friends living in Auckland, they often tell me what the weather has been like and how high temps have been, also get NZ news here, and look at various web-sites that deal with Auckland's weather.

As for the sun, will wait and see for NIWA's summary to come out at the end of this month. Sunny days and cloudy days are normal, nothing shocking about that, Auckland has not recorded a monthly total below 140 hours this year so far. You moaned a lot this year about how cloudy it was, yet month by month this year saw higher than average sunshine hours.
:rolleyes: :p
Posted by: TOM1111

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/10/2006 18:14

we will wait and see if any other NZ'rs have anything to say about NZAAS's exageration.

Im sure this has came up in the past in this thread where there was a sunny day and NZAAs was saying it was blowing that always present SW gale and raining

according to the NZ met service aucland has had a max of of 20.1 for october
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/10/2006 20:03

Quote:
we will wait and see if any other NZ'rs have anything to say about NZAAS's exageration.
Just check the years of false claims on the NZ forum. :rolleyes:

Anyway, wind has tended westerly, but it remains cloudy over the upper NI. Gale west to southwest winds today over Southland and Otago. A cold front is bringing rain to Westland, while the strong NW'er contributed to a power cut in Wellington.

Severe WW's are in place over the lower NI ahead of an upcoming deepening low on Monday. smile
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/10/2006 14:33

Calm,windless overcast 13 to 19range and little drizzle

Wellington cold,light E and periods of Rain 10

Christchurch cold and showery 13 moderate NE

Been very wet over the lower 1/2 of the NI and drizzly to the north,showers in the east of the south island too
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/10/2006 05:43

In my experience, Auckland's official wx stats can be somewhat meaningless unless the wx station they are taken from is also quoted. One should remember that the greater Auckland region is actually made up of 4 separate cities, 3 districts and dozens of offshore islands, which cover an area about 120 km from N to S and about 60 km at its widest. So it can be subject to quite a variety of microclimatic conditions, including local urban island heat effects.

Figures often quoted from MetService are usually either from Auckland Airport (about 20 km S of downtown Auckland), or from Albert Park (a 50m hill in the heart Auckland's CBD), whereas figures quoted from NIWA are usually from Auckland's central isthmus. Temps can differ markedly between these locations!

However, long term averages taken from Albert Park show that Auckland City has 131 days in 365 with any measurable rainfall, sunshine hours account for 47% of all available daylight hours and mean wind speeds are 9 kts (17 km/h), with only 3 days per year where gusts exceed 50 kts (93 km/h).
source: http://www.metservice.com/default/index.php?pkey=190512&ckey=192937

Mechanics Bay, a couple of kms E of downtown Auckland, has also been officially recognised as the sunniest place in NZ.

Btw, the apparently permanent cloud above NZAAS's house is over 20 km SE of downtown Auckland and not even in the same city.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/10/2006 07:32

Yes, Auckland does have many micro-climates.. he does happen to live in Manurewa(?) Which is quite exposed to the SW'er.

Mechanic's Bay has the highest mean temperatures in NZ. smile

Quite a bit of heavy rain over the North Island today.. after a record dry September here.. it's great!

However there has been a few serious slips around the lower NI due to heavy rain there (24 hour totals reaching 150mm in some parts)

Quote:

Issued by MetService at 08:47am 23-Oct-2006

MORE HEAVY RAIN FOR SOUTHERN NORTH ISLAND AND MARLBOROUGH SOUNDS

A low over the Tasman Sea is expected to move over the North Island today
bringing more heavy rain to the southern North Island and the Marlborough Sounds.
Another 80 to 100mm of rain could fall in areas from Taranaki and Taihape south
to Wellington, Wairarapa and the Marlborough Sounds. The rain should ease in
Taranaki this evening and most other places overnight. However, in Wellington,
southern Wairarapa and Marlborough, heavy falls are likely to continue into
Tuesday.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/10/2006 18:51

Rain today infact over much of the country with E or NE in most places and heavy showers/rain over most of the NI but became westerly Auckland north and cloudy with showers furthur south but drier on the SI westcoast.
Unfortunately tomorrow another high stuck in the tasman with annoying SW gales again
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/10/2006 14:23

Rather warm with 18c and light W winds and mostly fine but showers some places though due to daytime heating.

Wellington cold S gales with lots of showers High 9

Christchurch cloudy with SW and 11

Very wet in the south of the north island but showers most other places with cold S across the southern 1/2
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/10/2006 15:09

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:


Mechanics Bay, a couple of kms E of downtown Auckland, has also been officially recognised as the sunniest place in NZ.

Re Mechanics Bay being the sunniest place in NZ, I have to disagree with that, that honour belongs to the regions of Nelson and Marlborough, both average sunshine hours of 2400 + per annum.
Posted by: The 1st Ben

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/10/2006 17:01

Quote:
Originally posted by Kevin:
Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
[b] On 18 days it says we had 106.8 hrs of sun so far in October.that makes less than 6 hrs/day
What on earth is wrong with that? 6 hours a day at this time of year is great smile I went an entire month in England a few years back where we didn't see the sun for 3 weeks...now that was depressing. [/b]
Must have been one of those rare three-week months, Kevin. Or may be it just felt like a month! laugh
Sorry, couldn't resist! :cheers:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/10/2006 17:48

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
[b]

Mechanics Bay, a couple of kms E of downtown Auckland, has also been officially recognised as the sunniest place in NZ.

Re Mechanics Bay being the sunniest place in NZ, I have to disagree with that, that honour belongs to the regions of Nelson and Marlborough, both average sunshine hours of 2400 + per annum. [/b]
Yes sorry, as Willoughby so kindly pointed out, I meant Mechanics Bay is the (mean) warmest place in NZ. smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/10/2006 19:10

Cool smile . A spelling error, had me going there laugh

Yes, agree with you re Mechanics Bay. :cheers:
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/10/2006 21:13

Depression now deepening and heading east into the Chathams.


Quote:

Weather havoc continues in lower North Island
24 October 2006

Foul weather forced the cancellation of flights and ferry crossings in Wellington today and kept authorities monitoring river levels from Manawatu to Kaikoura.


While there was expected to be some relief over the next couple of days, a low pressure system over the lower North Island saturated many areas and brought extreme winds to Wellington.

The winds forced cancellations and diversions to flights in and out of Wellington Airport, with 5000 travellers affected.

An airport spokeswoman said some larger planes appeared to be landing but smaller ones were staying away.

Toll spokeswoman Sue Foley said the 2pm Aratere and 6.15pm Arahura sailing out of Wellington were both cancelled due to heavy seas.

The cancellations also left passengers stranded in Picton.

Ms Foley said the larger passenger ferry, Kaitaki, would leave Wellington at 8.25am tomorrow and was expected to clear the backlogs.

Strait Shipping also cancelled sailings between Wellington and Picton today.

Further north, a bridge on State Highway 57 between Levin and the Manawatu Gorge was closed this afternoon due to flooding, and diversions put in place.

Surface flooding was reported on several roads further south towards Wellington, and forced a couple of road closures in southern Wairarapa.

Police said rain had caused surface flooding in some parts of Wellington city, trees had been brought down and there had been a few minor car crashes.

While rain had been falling for three days in parts of Wairarapa and Manawatu, it eased this afternoon there were no problems beyond surface flooding on roads and farms.

Masterton emergency management officer Paul Walker said the weather was being monitored but recent rainfall had not been as heavy as it had been at other times during the year.

In the Manawatu/Wanganui area Horizons Regional Council was keeping an eye on the Manawatu River in case levels became threatening.

A council spokesman said floodgate mechanisms on the river could be activated if necessary and staff were on standby for that purpose.

MetService forecaster Oliver Druce this afternoon said the foul weather was on the way out.

" It should clear up quite well tomorrow to be a fine day," he said.

"For most of the North Island it looks not too bad for the next couple of days."

Some showers were expected to return in the west late on Thursday, Mr Druce said.

MetService figures showed there was between 100mm and 120mm of rain in some parts of Wellington's eastern hills in the 24 hours until 4pm.
Roll on the sunshine!
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/10/2006 05:26

Yes, there was a report of gusts of up to 120 km/h across Wellington Airport's runway.

Actually, there were 4 Interislander ferry sailing's cancelled yesterday, but what your article didn't mention was the harrowing voyage of the one ferry that did attempt the Cook Strait crossing.

The 'Kaitaki' is the largest Interislander ferry at 182 metres long and capable of carrying 1600 passengers and 600 cars. It set out from Picton at 1.30pm, on what is normally a 3 1/2 hour sailing, with 800 passengers aboard. But when faced with extremely heavy 9m swells in Cook Strait, the captain announced that he was not prepared to risk the safty of passengers or the vessel in an attempt to get to Wellington until conditions improved and decided to shelter off Cloudy Bay near the entrance to the Tory Channel. By 8pm swells had dropped to between 5 and 7 metres and the Kaitaki set off once again. Passengers said the journey was chaotic. The ship was pitching from side to side and a lot of people were suffering sea sickness. Waves crashed onto the ship's seventh deck and a couple of big ones sent people flying across the room. Staff then asked if there were any nurses and doctors on board. Between 55 and 110 km/h SSW'ers were blustering as the Kaitaki entered Wellington Harbour at 10:15pm. At 10:30pm, while waiting just inside the harbour for heavy seas to die down, the Captain requested a tug to help the vessel berth. It was still attempting to berth shortly after 11pm, nearly 10 hours after setting of from Piction.
eek
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/10/2006 19:24

Maritime NZ look set to grill Toll here, pretty idiotic taking 10 and a half hours in 9m swells to get to Wellington.. obviously lessons not learnt!!

Showers clearing and becoming fine in the east of the North Island as the occluded front departs.. brief ridge will momentarily give some fine weather at last, but a strong cold front looks set to whip up in the western Tasman, giving NZ another good 'ol storm in the weekend. laugh

Today's Tmax: Alexandra - 20C
Min-Tmax: Invercargill, Oamaru, Kaikoura - 12C

Some extremes over the past week..
Code:
HIGHEST
Rainfall (mm)       Arthur's Pass      91.0  21st
Temperature (C)    Timaru             27.9  19th
Sunshine (hours)    Ashburton          12.9  20th
Wind gust (km/h)    Castlepoint       176.0  19th

LOWEST
Temperature         Fairlie            -5.0  23rd
Grass temperature   Dunedin            -6.5  23rd
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/10/2006 21:25

Fine at first in most places, but cloud increased. Drizzle patches in the far north, while rainy over Fiordland.

Looks like a brief period of rain this afternoon.

Tmax: Hanmer Springs - 24C (with an early frost)
Min-Tmax: Invercargill - 12C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/10/2006 21:25

Cloudy periods over the west of the Noth Island today.. sunny and warm in the east of NZ with rain on the west coast SI.

Nice active trough going through Tasmania, cold front ahead of it is strengthening.. sure is a nice line of thunderstorms there in the central Tasman.

Quote:

SPECIAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SOUTH ISLAND AND SOUTHERN NORTH ISLAND
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 01:38pm Friday 27-Oct-2006

STORMY WEEKEND
MetService has issued a severe weather warning for heavy rain on the South
Island West Coast and the ranges of northwest Nelson, and for severe gale force
northwest winds over parts of Canterbury.
These conditions are expected as a low approaches the country from the Tasman
Sea. This low is likely to be vigorous and should cross New Zealand on Sunday.
At this early stage it is likely that, on Sunday, heavy rain and very strong
winds will affect other parts of central New Zealand. There is also some
possibility of moderate to heavy snowfalls down to about 500 metres in
Canterbury and Marlborough on Sunday.
Today's Tmax: Timaru - 25C
Min-Tmax: Greymouth, Wellington, Taupo - 15C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/10/2006 20:48

Heavy rain over Westland today.. destabilising conditions brought some drizzly rain to the upper NI. Dry with high cloud in the east.

Weather aint looking too flash tomorrow with severe nor'west gales, heavy rain and thunderstorms, (some severe) on the cards for the South Island.

Tmax: Napier - 25C
Min-Tmax: Invercargill - 13C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/10/2006 22:50

Stormy across Aotearoa yesterday thanks to a deep low.. a moisture-laden cold front brought some good totals with 40mm in Wellington, 30mm in Rotorua/New Plymouth and 10mm here in Hamilton.

Now just starting to feel the brunt of the troughey showers.. thunderstorms effecting Wellington this morning. Gusts to over 120km/h too across inland Canterbury with northwesterlies.. northeasterlies on the coast brought dewpoints up which saw them getting convectional showers for once.



Tmax: Kaikoura, Christchurch - 24C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown, Invercargill - 13C
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/10/2006 18:10

Sure doesn't exactly look pretty for South Island, but North Island seems nice temperature-wise!

I have to ask you Kiwis, though - what's the highest and lowest temps ever recorded for New Zealand and for North and South Islands themselves? And also for Stewart Island, if possible?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/10/2006 18:33

From NIWA (Offical NZ Weather Climate Data web-site)

Highest maximum air temperature:

North Island 39.2 Ruatoria 7 February 1973

South Island 42.4 Rangiora 7 February 1973


Lowest minimum air temperature:

North Island 13.6 Chateau Tongariro 7 July 1937

South Island 21.6 Ophir 3 July 1995


Lowest grass minimum:

21.6 Lake Tekapo 4 August 1938
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/10/2006 20:45

Only about 300 people live on Stewart Island Mike.. and I can't find any extreme data from there. frown SW Cape on Stewart Island though has an annual mean wind speed of about 44km/h.. which is huge!

Early heavy rain and storms cleared southeastern NZ this morning as the low quickly cleared. Strong west to southwest winds over most of NZ though and a few showers. Those winds were quite damaging about Banks Peninsular.. Le Bons Bay was averaging 93km/h for most of the day. eek

Tmax: Gisborne - 21C
Min-Tmax: Invercargill, Dunedin - 11C
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/10/2006 22:58

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:

Lowest minimum air temperature:

North Island 13.6 Chateau Tongariro 7 July 1937
Might be worth noting that 'The Chateau' is a ski resort about 1100m above sea level and lies at the foot of the North Island's tallest mountain, Mt Ruapehu (2797m), in the Tongariro National Park. smile
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/11/2006 17:13

Atleast we aren't as near bad as the BoM or the UK Met by sticking up AWS's on top of anywhere they conceive as being a 'high mountain'!! wink

Became fine and sunny over most of the North island today laugh .. some local showers about Canterbury. Early frosts in Central Otago with fine weather.

Auckland: 17C
Wellington: 16C
Christchurch: 14C
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/11/2006 20:56

Hi Willoughby ... There's an AWS at Mount Hotham Airport in NSW at 1300m, but check out this pic of the one on top of Mt Hotham (1850m) - http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/hotham19-210704/cP7190177?full=1
eek
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/11/2006 06:24

Thanks for the extreme temperatures info.

Hmm, given that Stewart Island's right in the Roaring Forties, it shouldn't be any surprise that it's so windy! It's about as far from the Equator as St. John's Newfoundland (Lat. 47N). St. John's is also the windiest city in Canada, with an annual windspeed of 24 km/h, but other places in Atlantic Canada may be a lot windier.

I slao wouldn't be surprised if Stewart Island is also one of NZ's wettest places, either.
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/11/2006 07:43

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
[QB] Atleast we aren't as near bad as the BoM or the UK Met by sticking up AWS's on top of anywhere they conceive as being a 'high mountain'!! wink
Read the UK weather thread, and see how often that Cairngorm Summit (altitude of 1244m) is the coldest place in the UK laugh

I don't think a temperature of 20C has ever been reached there, even in summer.
Posted by: Blizzard

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/11/2006 08:43

And here's a shot of snow on the beach at Stewart Island.

http://www.naturespic.com/i/4494OB02_w.jpg

Not a common event I'd imagine but perhaps once or twice in a good year?
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/11/2006 11:38

That's a nice photo Blizz.. it would strongly depend whether it's on the sheltered northern side (near Oban) or whether it's a beach on it's exposed part of the island. With no manned observation data from SW Cape.. but a look at the temperatures, it would happen up to 9 times down there in a good year.

Invercargill City gets quite a bit of sheltering from the SSW from Stewart Island.. only sees them getting 2.2 snow days a year compared with Dunedin's 3.5. Invercargill was a dud for snow this year.

Mike says,
Quote:
I slao wouldn't be surprised if Stewart Island is also one of NZ's wettest places, either.
A lack of mountain uplift limits the orographic-rain effect down there. Cropp River (~500m ASL) in the Hokitika Catchment is the busiest gauge in NZ.. it saw 18,442mm of rain in 365 consecutive days during the strong El Nino of '97-'98. A bit wet!!
However we also don't stick up rain gauges a top or beneath our summits either.. Mt Taranaki has been regarded as the wettest place in Australasia. wink

NIWA just released their October summary..
Quote:

NATIONAL CLIMATE CENTRE WEDNESDAY 1 NOVEMBER 2006
National Climate Summary October 2006: Another month of extremes
Rainfall: Well above normal in Auckland, Wairarapa, Manawatu, and near Christchurch;
below normal in Central and East Otago
Significant soil moisture deficits continue in North and Central Otago; deficits developing in
other eastern regions
Wind: Much windier than average over the South Island and southern North Island
Temperature: Average or below average in all regions
Sunshine: Very sunny inland South Canterbury, East Otago, and Southland
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/11/2006 09:28

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:


A lack of mountain uplift limits the orographic-rain effect down there. Cropp River (~500m ASL) in the Hokitika Catchment is the busiest gauge in NZ.. it saw 18,442mm of rain in 365 consecutive days during the strong El Nino of '97-'98. A bit wet!!
However we also don't stick up rain gauges a top or beneath our summits either.. Mt Taranaki has been regarded as the wettest place in Australasia. wink
Okay, I had no idea Stewart Island isn't that mountainous an island, but I'm well aware that the Westland region in South Island is definitely the wettest part of NZ. Hokitika's annual rainfall is about 2875 mm. Scenic Milford Sound is even wetter - up to 6749 mm/year.

Indeed, Westland shares a lot of similarities to a part of Canada I'm somewhat familiar with - the (ironically named) Sunshine Coast immediately north of Vancouver! Like parts of Westland, BC's coastline is among the most rugged with steep shores and fjords in the world - so rugged that it's almost impossible to build a viable highway much of the way between Powell River, 140 km N of Vancouver and Prince Rupert and SE Alaska. Even then, you have to take a couple of ferries on the way to Powell River. And not surprisingly, extremely high annual rainfall is a fact of life there.

Annual rainfalls in BC's coast can go as high as near 6500 mm/year on average, with the wettest areas being in the west coast of Vancouver Island. But the climate there is so mild that snowfall is rare except high in the mountains and inland areas. Even Vancouver will get snow as rarely as only once or twice in the winter - or probably even none!

But probably unlike Westland, the rainfall on BC's coast shows a marked Mediterranean pattern in many places - summer is usually much drier than winter/autumn. Lawns can go brown even in the city of Vancouver and Vancouver Island in the summer - and this summer was especially dry, with water restrictions in place! However, I do notice from looking at rainfall data provided by NIWA (Nat'l Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research) across New Zealand, you Kiwis do get such a Mediterranean rainfall pattern in parts of North Island, including even Auckland and some parts of South Island east of the Southern Alps.
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/11/2006 09:54

The Cropp River gauge is relatively recent and I think you'll find that it's wetter than anywhere in Taranaki. Some previous short-term field studies have found that precipitation on the western side of the South Island ranges peaks at an elevation of about 1200m and declines higher up (because of lower moisture content in the air), so it's unlikely that much higher totals would occur if you had a string of gauges all the way up to the summit of the Southern Alps.

The data we have so far from Cropp River suggest an annual mean in the order of 12,000mm, which would give it claims to being one of the world's wettest places.

Returning to shorter-term NZ weather, the ECMWF model is suggesting a spectacular cold outbreak mid-next week, with thicknesses below 524 in the southern half of the South Island on both days. If this came off snow would fall to sea level or close to it.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/11/2006 22:09

Thanks for that info Blair.. though Taranaki on it's northwestern side would be quite up there.. they tend to really feel the humid, sub-tropical air there during Tasman storms. Whereas Hokitika gets 90% of it's rain from cold fronts.. though Taranaki can get a mixture of warm and cold fronts as well as heavy trough-showers.

And yes!! Does GASP and ECMWF look fantastic.. both progging thickness down to 520dm just south of Stewart Island in the wake of a weakening, but strong high west of TAS.. fantastic for November! laugh A high chance of thunder this far out.

Today, a weak trough brought light showers to Northland, while most of the North Island was mainly fine. Northwesterlies developing over the South Island as the high moves slowly east.. associated high cloud there and drizzle in the west.

Tmax: Ashburton, Oamaru - 24C
Min-Tmax: Taupo, Westport, Hokitika - 16C
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/11/2006 11:20

This report from the Southland Times today.


Huge icebergs near NZ
04 November 2006
By STU OLDHAM

An armada of about 100 icebergs was just a few hundred kilometers from Southland last night, prompting warnings for shipping and raising the remote prospect of the first iceberg sighting from the mainland in decades.


The surprised Whenuapai-based crew of an Air Force Orion, on a routine southern patrol looking for illegal fishing, spotted the first of the icebergs about 260km south of Invercargill late yesterday morning.

The frigid flotilla was split into two groups of about 50 icebergs. One group stretched about 185km south, and the other was concentrated in a chunky, icy mass about 37km wide.

Air Force spokesman Squadron leader Glenn Davis said the largest iceberg was about 1.8km long, 1.3km wide, and towered about 120m above the choppy waters. Given 90 percent of an iceberg is underwater, that meant the largest was 1.2km high.

The icebergs were north-east of the Auckland Islands and south-east of Stewart Island, and were drifting slowly towards south-east New Zealand, Squadron Leader Davis said.

"It is not unexpected to see icebergs at this time of year, but the crew were slightly surprised to see them where they are now," Squadron Leader Davis said.

Niwa marine physicist Dr Mike Williams said some of the new icebergs sounded big enough to survive another week of their journey toward the east coast.

But they were probably riddled with holes, and should collapse to close to the waterline.

"We'd need a bit of good luck, but if these `bergs don't melt too much then who knows, with favourable currents and wind, they might even get close enough to be seen from the mainland, "Dr Williams said.

They might be from the Ross Sea or Prydz Bay ice shelfs, and were most likely carried north by the current and a consistent pattern of southerly winds.

They might also have been part of one or two megabergs, which disintegrated as they drifted slowly through warmer waters.

It was a "very cool thing, if you'll excuse the pun" for the scientific community but it would be hard to tie the icebergs' drift north to global warming, Dr Williams said.

"It's more likely that this is just part of the natural cycle of the ice, but this time sea and wind conditions have pushed pieces from a very big iceberg north," Dr Williams said.

"It is unusual, and it is exciting to be reminded the waters around New Zealand are part of a much bigger picture, but that's about as much as we can say for sure," Dr Williams said.

The fleet was the first spotted so close to New Zealand for decades.

They were seen as far north as the Chatham Islands in the late 1800s, and were last seen from the mainland in 1931, from a beach near Dunedin, Dr Williams said.

Dr Williams did not have enough information to chart their speed or course last night.

Maritime New Zealand yesterday issued a navigation warning to what was last night an unknown number of boats southeast of Stewart Island.

A much smaller scale warning was issued for the same area on October 17, and again in January.
Posted by: BOM99

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/11/2006 09:38

I just heard about the ice bergs on the radio here, could well be the northern most advance since the 1930's. I wonder if this weeks polar outbreak expected by late wednesday and strong SW winds will be enough to push them to the coast. Maybe it will make the cold change and snow just a little colder?, since travelling over ice bergs.
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/11/2006 10:27

The stuff on icebergs being seen from NZ is very interesting. Given that the Little Ice Age ended in the 1850's, it's no surprise that to see icebergs from South Island and Stewart Island would be extremely rare these days.

But I'd suppose iceberg sightings must've been more common maybe during the peak of the Little Ice Age, so that maybe the local Maori in southern NZ and the Moriori of the Chatham Islands might have seen them as frequently as every several years or so? If I recall correctly, the Chatham Islands are actually about as far south as Christchurch.

And I wonder if the current global warming continues, icebergs off southern NZ and Chatham Islands might ironically become more commonplace as Antarctic glaciers and ice shelves begin to melt at a faster rate, putting more icebergs in the ocean? Apparently, huge icebergs are breaking off in Antartica more frequently now.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/11/2006 18:29

Last week's large iceberg(s) probably managed to get this far N before melting due to it's original size and the help from a consistent pattern of southerlies. Notwithstanding the fact that the NZ Airforce has just upgraded it's long-range surveillance and haulage capabilities, I don't think 'global warming' would cause an increase of iceberg sightings around NZ's Southern waters. The Antarctic has actually cooled and gained ice-mass in the past 30 years and inevitably Antarctica's large ice-shelves will break apart or shear icebergs, not so much due to melting but, because of the daily flexing and stresses caused by the ocean's tides.
wink
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/11/2006 12:20

Yeah.. probably just a pretty abnormal sea current down that way.

A period of rain set to roll over tonight.. then the south looks set to wrap up very warmly with quite a cold change expected.

Quote:
SPECIAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SOUTHLAND OTAGO CANTERBURY
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 11:51am Tuesday 07-Nov-2006

UNSEASONABLE COLD SNAP FOR SOUTH ISLAND ON WEDNESDAY

MetService forecasters expect the weather system bringing widespread rain and
strong winds to central New Zealand later today (Tuesday) to move quickly off to
the southeast tomorrow.
In its wake a southerly flow developing over the South Island during Wednesday
is likely to become unseasonably cold in Fiordland, Southland and Otago, with
showers bringing snow down to as low as 300 metres by Wednesday evening and
about 700 metres about Banks Peninsula Wednesday night and Thursday morning.
Although heavy falls of snow are not expected, stock could be under stress in
some areas exposed to the wind, and there could be significant frosts in
sheltered areas on Thursday morning.
Posted by: ozone doug

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/11/2006 14:42

Be good if we get some aerial footage from the planes on the news tonight .doug
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/11/2006 22:14

Here's TV one's latest news report on the icebergs.. highly recommended to watch. http://tvnz.co.nz/cda/tvnz/video_popup_windows_skin/882865?bandwidth=128k smile

75 years.. amazing

Persistent rain about the northern half of the South Island.. very cold and wet in Canterbury.. Christchurch only reached 10C! Periods of heavy rain has developed this evening in the North Island's west. Humid too up here.. temp/dps were around 21/17 here. The far south was fine and sunny ahead of a cold front.

Snow lowering to 300m tomorrow evening about Southland and coastal Otago
, with possible heavy falls about Central Otago later. cool

Today's Tmax: Gisborne, Napier, Hastings - 23C
Min-Tmax: Ashburton - 9C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/11/2006 21:05

The remarkable run of snow for Canterbury in '06 continues!! eek Heavy snow about Central Otago and the MacKenzie Country.. Flurries to 50m today (Ashburton) mixed with hail and thunder. Snowing heavily at present in Gore. Queenstown Ap was closed by this afternoon.
Heavy rain over the North Island this morning, but that cleared leaving isolated showers.

North Island's turn tomorrow.. with snow forecast likely to shut SH1 on the Desert Road. Thunderstorm potential look great for once here! laugh

Tmax: Napier - 26C
Min-Tmax: Queenstown, Invercargill - 8C

Christchurch currently sitting on 3C with recent rain.
Posted by: Blizzard

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/11/2006 21:15

Yes, looks pretty impressive on satellite imagery that cold outbreak. Well done NZ. Great stuff.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/11/2006 15:43

Gusty westerlies at first with few showers and fine periods but at 3pm the South Westerlies Rose to Gale Force and with some light Rain.Cold day low 9 to 13.This low was reached about 4pm with the change,

Wellington cold with 8 and gale S and rain

Christchurch strong cold southerlies and 10
Elsewhere showers spreading to eastern NI districts and fine on the south island west coast otherwise showers or rain and wind eveywhere else
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/11/2006 20:45

Auckland saw some actual gales for once Michael!

Talk about a step back into winter! :nerd:

Quote:

A southwest gale, with wind gusts up to 120kph, wreaked havoc across Auckland city today.


Police and the Fire Service took hundreds of calls, mostly weather-related.

"We've responded to about 300 weather-related emergency calls since midday," Jaron Phillips, shift manager at the Fire Service's northern communications centre, said.

The calls included trees down across powerlines, roofs off homes, trees on cars, and some surface flooding.

Mr Phillips said the storm appeared to be centred on Auckland City.

"The worst hit areas are west Auckland and some suburbs of central Auckland," he said.

Inspector Gavin Macdonald, of the police northern communications centre, said they had received about 500 calls between 5pm and 6pm.

"There were trees falling down, power lines coming down, traffic lights phasing out and there were a few minor accidents on the motorway due to the wind," he said.

"Hopefully it's starting to calm down now but it's still pretty windy out there."

The MetService issued a severe weather warning for Northland and Auckland at 4.38pm.

It said that southwest gales with frequent gusts to 120kph were expected but should ease from about 8pm.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/11/2006 22:01

Yes, some reports had gusts as much as 150km/h in exposed areas around Auckland, although most places recorded gusts between 70 to 90 km/h. The city's Sky-Tower was evacuated this arvo due to motion sickness. Although it's designed to sway up to a metre in extreme winds, some reported that the elevators were swaying and banging.
eek
Also report of a possible 'm***-tornado' damaging two houses near the city of Tauranga this late this morning. Apparently, it threw outdoor furniture into a ranch slider and caused a gum tree to fall...

Btw, these are today's T-max figures from MetService -

Auckland: 17C
Hamilton: 15C
Tauranga: 17C
Wellington: 11C
Christchurch: 12C
Dunedin: 11C

:rolleyes:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/11/2006 09:01

Update

MetService said the Sky Tower and heads of the Manukau Harbour were hit by gusts of about 150 km/h yesterday afternoon, while the central city and parts of the Hauraki Gulf had gusts of up to 130km/h, disrupting ferry and air services. Coastguard staff on the Waitemata Harbour said they also saw 3 or 4 waterspouts form, then disappear. And the apparent tornado in Tauranga uprooted a 40 year old 18m eucalyptus tree, swept it 50m down a driveway, knocked large branches off a pohutukawa tree across the street, then crashed into a neighbour's home and car, smashing windows and putting a hole in the roof.

Full Story: NZ Herald - 'Chaos as storm lashes city'
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10410075
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/11/2006 15:08

Winds eased overnight but remained cloudy in the west Levin northwards witH showers north of New Plymouth and cold SW.

Fine elsewhere apart from showers about the south island south coast.

In Auckland fresh SW and 15,mainly cloudy with light showers.
Wellington 16 with strong NW and mainly fine

Christchurch had a light ENE and sunny 17
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/11/2006 16:40

Cloudy with some rain on the SI west coast and Southland and partly cloudy in the west from Wellington to Northland.Fine elsewhere with NW in the SI.

Auckland had 17 after a cold cloudy morning but sunnier after lunch.Moderate WSW.low 10

Wellington PC with fresh WNW and 17
Christchurch fresh NW and 23 and clear
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/11/2006 21:48

Was mainly fine over most of the North Island today until some light drizzle developed in the west this afternoon. Heavy rain on the SI west coast.. while it was dry with high cloud ahead of the system.

Looks like the taps and fans are going to be left on tomorrow..
Quote:
VERY HEAVY RAIN EXPECTED ON THE WEST COAST, SOUTHERN ALPS AND NELSON RANGES. DAMAGING WINDS LIKELY FOR PARTS OF CANTERBURY, MARLBOROUGH, WELLINGTON AND WAIRARAPA An active front moving onto the country is expected to bring a period of torrential rain and damaging winds to parts of the country. A heavy rain warning has been issued for the South Island West Coast, the Southern Alps and the Nelson Ranges. The rain is expected to become heavy tonight and continue through much of Tuesday. Between 200mm and 300mm is likely in some places, with the heaviest falls expected about the northern ranges of Westland and Buller. This is a significant amount of rain for these areas and people are advised to watch for rapidly rising river levels and take care when driving. Severe northwest gales are also expected about inland Canterbury north of Ashburton, Marlborough, Wellington and Wairarapa from early Tuesday morning until the afternoon or evening. Winds could gust 130 km/h in exposed places, and this is likely to damage trees and powerlines, lift roofs and make driving hazardous.
Looks set to be quite wet afater this system too, and humid.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/11/2006 12:52

Those severe northwesterly gales are playing total havoc in Canterbury today, already claiming one life. frown

Quote:

Man hit by storm-felled tree in Canterbury dies
Posted at 2:25pm on 14 Nov 2006

A man has died in Christchurch Hospital after being hit by a tree in high winds near Hanmer in north Canterbury.

It is believed that he was attempting to clear debris from the road when another tree fell on him.

Wild weather has affected roads, rivers and air travel in Canterbury and gale force winds are now hitting southern parts of the North Island.

Roads closed in Canterbury, Wellington
Weather conditions have forced the closure of several Canterbury roads, including State Highway 7 between the Hanmer turnoff and Mouse Point, with trees continuing to fall across the road.

The police have also closed part of State Highway 73 at Arthur's Pass because the Bealey River has breached its banks, making the road impassible.

The Canterbury Regional Council also says the Waimakiriri, Hurunui, Rakaia and Waiau Rivers should be avoided.

The Mount Victoria tunnel in central Wellington is also closed due to a fallen tree at the Basin Reserve entrance, and the Rimutaka Hill Road between Wellington and Wairarapa is closed because of a crash.

An Air New Zealand flight from Tokyo was diverted from Christchurch International Airport to Auckland when windshear conditions became too extreme to land. Some domestic flights were also affected.

Storm continues
The MetService says stormy conditions will last for the rest of Tuesday, with northwest winds being followed up the country by a southerly.

The front will weaken on Wednesday, but wet and cloudy conditions are expected for western areas everywhere.
-Radio NZ
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/11/2006 20:57

Yeah, I see Wellington's Mt Kaukau (419m) recorded NW gusts up to 161 km/h, while winds around the streets of the capital, exceeded 100 km/h. The Rimutaka Hill Road leading into the city was also forced to partially close after gusts up to 140 km/h caused a truck to roll near the summit at about 12.30pm. Even die-hard Wellingtonians seem to be getting a little feed up.
frown

Today's Tmax
Auckland: 23C
Hamilton: 24C
Wellington: 17C
Christchurch: 24C
Dunedin: 17C
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/11/2006 21:24

Fine in Ak with a N wind and 16 to 23

Wellington partly cloudy with 18 and a fresh NW and Christchurch 18 with a NE,
Rain in the SW of the SI and NW there but NE on the SI eastcoast and N or NW elswhere where Napier got 28
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/11/2006 12:38

Not sure where you get your obs from NZAAS, but according to MetService, Hastings topped yesterday's national max of 28C, whereas nearby Napier airport only recorded 26C.

Below are yesterday's main-centre airport obs from MetService:

Auckland: Min 16C, Max 22C
Hamilton: Min 12C, Max 22C
Wellington: Min 10C, Max 17C
Christchurch: Min 4C, Max 17C
Dunedin: Min 6C, Max 21C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/11/2006 12:41

A vast area of high dewpoints have lept on us today.. 22/19 here right now with isolated drizzle and forecast possible thunder. Thundery along the west coast SI today.. looks like central NZ will see some more severe NW gales, and widespread heavy rain again within the next 48 hours.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/11/2006 12:58

Not sure where you get your obs from NZAAS, but according to MetService, Hastings topped yesterday's national max of 28C, whereas nearby Napier airport only recorded 26C.

Below are yesterday's main-centre airport obs from MetService:

Auckland: Min 16C, Max 22C
Hamilton: Min 12C, Max 22C
Wellington: Min 10C, Max 17C
Christchurch: Min 4C, Max 17C
Dunedin: Min 6C, Max 21C
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/11/2006 22:37

Well! NIWA has been proven wrong.. those icebergs can now be seen from Dunedin!!! eek

Quote:

Locals flock to see icebergs

Nov 16, 2006

The scientists thought it wouldn't happen, but the icebergs floating off our southern coast have got close enough for a lands-end view.

It has been 75 years, but on Thursday icebergs could be spotted from the mainland.

Keen iceberg spotters took their binoculars to vantage points like Signal Hill, Brockville and St Clair to catch a look at the rare sight.

"It was incredible,..you gotta keep your focus on it 'cause otherwise it's gone," said one local.

Some wanted a closer look.

A plane company flew more than 100 ice-loving tourists to view the huge frozen bergs

"Adrenalin was pumping and in the vast ocean you can see this white thing and it gets closer and closer and it's big it was really great, definitely," said one lucky iceberg tourist.

And Otago helicopters were also flat out with tourist flights.

Helicopters Otago pilot Stuart Farquhr says his company chartered about 10 flights to see the icebergs.

He said the icebergs broke up a bit overnight Wednesday and there won't be much left of them by Friday, however they are still a spectacular sight.

Farquhr says the highest one is about five houses high and as long as an Olympic swimming pool.

It has taken at least five years for these icy hills to travel this far from Antarctica and the smaller they get, the quicker they will melt.

However, a helicopter pilot saw yet another iceberg further south on Thursday morning and several more were on the horizon.

So, while they remain, bobbing off Dunedin's coast - the tourist flights will continue.
-Newstalk ZB

Video here.. http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/894293?bandwidth=128k

Blardy humid here.. 18/17 at the moment.. the mozzies have come early this season! mad
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/11/2006 13:52

Nice and humid.Fresh N and temp 17 to 24c

Wellington overcast with some rain.18,Fresh N

Christchurch cloudy and 17 with moderate S

Some rain on the west coast as a front slowly moves up
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/11/2006 00:52


Fairfax New Zealand Limited 2006.

Another giant iceberg was spotted on Saturday 200 km SE of Dunedin. Estimated at over a kilometre long, it's the biggest yet and one of at least three large icebergs in the area. After landing on one of the smaller bergs, helicopter pilot Andrew Reid and his party of five noticed a large white shape looming on the horizon and flew for half an hour to reach the iceberg. His passengers screwed screws into the soles of their boots, fashioning makeshift crampons to give them traction on the ice. A second more rugged iceberg is floating a few kms to the N. The pair have reportedly travelled north by about 15 kms in the past couple of days which should put them off the Dunedin coast by about the end of the week.

Related Video - http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/896496

Meanwhile, NZ's 'Trade Me' was forced to remove one of the icebergs from its online auction site yesterday. The iceberg had attracted about 100,000 viewers and a bid of $99 million before it was removed after staff requested a "proof of goods" from the person who listed the iceberg to establish that that person actually did own it before the auction closed.
wink
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/11/2006 11:29

I've been away for the last week and only just found out about the incident in Southland on Saturday 10/11, in which Australian cyclist Paul Crake suffered serious spinal injuries after been blown off his bike during a race (somewhere near Lumsden as far as I can tell from news reports). I knew Paul from his mountain running days in Canberra so the news comes as something of a shock (although it's unclear from what I've seen as to what his prospects, if any, for a full recovery are).

Anyway, I was wondering if any of the NZ readers have any info on whether anything really out of the ordinary was happening to the winds in that area on that day? From the charts it looks to be a reasonably tight gradient but by no means extreme (at least by this year's standards).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/11/2006 15:33

Here in Auckland were back to the usual 8/8 much of the day apart from 2 hours in the afternoon of partly cloudy conditions with light WSW or SW.Temp 12 to 17 and it was 15 most of the day for that.

Wellington mostly sunny with 18 and a fresh NW

Christchurch light winds mostly NE and completely fine with 19
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/11/2006 23:03

Not too sure about that one Blair.. though the MetService have been issuing many high wind warnings (gusts >120km/h) the last few months over Southland.. maybe it was a foehn? (strong gusts and lulls rather than a persistent oceanic gale?)

I don't often complain about the weather, but the persistent westerlies and associated stratocumulus up here in the north is getting very, very agitating. frown
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/11/2006 04:23

Hi Blair

ACT Cycling Federation president and competitive cyclist Steve Blair was reported to have been by his team-mates side within moments of the crash occurring. Blair was quoted as saying Two kilometres from the finish of the stage they came down a slight descent and it was just incredibly windy and they were caught by a gust and blown down the bank. Four riders got up but Paul didnt. Paul hit his back on a fence post at the bottom..."

Not sure what time the 79 km, 8th stage of the 'Powernet Tour of Southland' from Te Anau to Lumsden on Saturday, Nov 11 was. Lumsden's about midway between Invercargill and Queenstown, or about 55 km NW Gore, and generally, strong W to NW winds up to 45 km/h, with gusts to about 60 km/h, look to have peaked in the early afternoon, although this may have varied with the local typography. Pressure dived there from about 1000 hPa earlier in the day to about 991 hPa or less that afternoon. Snow also fell to low levels there 3 nights before as a storm moved up the country producing extreme gales in Auckland on Friday and possible tornadoes in Tauranga.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 17:38

The gale nor'westers are back over the South Island with a cold front in the west delivering some thundery falls. Hot too, Timaru up to 31C today!

Still the westerlies and cloud continue in the northwest.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 17:43

Strong NW winds and low cloud here but better than previous incidents. Still this season is in marked contrast to Aug-Dec last year - which was marked by lower windspeeds, lowish rainfall and a lot of sunshine.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 18:36

Welcome RWood. smile
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 19:13

We had one decent day today before the SW arrive again
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 19:27

To be fair however at least this month - pity about the total rainfall - we're about up to scratch with 149hrs sun in 22 days, almost average.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 19:41

Dont be so melodramatic NZAAS - U forgot to mention yesterday as well, sunny with some cloudy periods. Anyway have noted that Auckland so far has recorded only 36mm of rain.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/11/2006 20:32

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Welcome RWood. smile
Thanks rainfan.... laugh

NZAAS ( wink and Willoughby sound rather familiar...
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/11/2006 16:15

We need to swap weather with you and all of us would be happy

Today 14 to 20,dry until now,Rain threatening.Gusty westerlies

Wellington 18 Strong NW mostly,some sun however

Christchurch 23 and fine dry NW

Cloudy in the west with westerlies there and NW to the east with the usual fine weather that we dont see much of and showers spreading along the south coast and west coast
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/11/2006 16:36

We've had continuous sun since latish morning - the switch to WNW (as opposed to NNW) always clears away any low cloud which retreats northwards and towards the Tararuas.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/11/2006 17:25

Can see on live cam that starting to have some light showers over Auckland atm.

Wellington - shows a lovely evening with the sun setting atm - here is the web-cam link :-

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~seebee/
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/11/2006 18:36

MetService has max temp of 21.1C for Auckland at 3:20pm today
(Manurewa shows max of 21.3C at 2:31pm)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/11/2006 19:17

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Can see on live cam that starting to have some light showers over Auckland atm.

Wellington - shows a lovely evening with the sun setting atm - here is the web-cam link :-

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~seebee/
I was sitting in a local restaurant (at 20:10) with northerly views - nice contrast with mainly blue sky and pinked-tinged cumulus over the Tararuas (which lower darker stratus colourings underneath)
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/11/2006 20:30

Wellington has a variety of climates,it can be sunny in the cbd,go over the Nauranga gorge to Porirua and it will start to change,by Waikanae it will be westerly and showers
Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Can see on live cam that starting to have some light showers over Auckland atm.

Wellington - shows a lovely evening with the sun setting atm - here is the web-cam link :-

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~seebee/
I was sitting in a local restaurant (at 20:10) with northerly views - nice contrast with mainly blue sky and pinked-tinged cumulus over the Tararuas (which lower darker stratus colourings underneath) [/b]
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/11/2006 06:56

That's one of the reasons I don't fancy living on the "western margins" - Kapiti/Horowhenua etc. For the price of somewhat lighter winds one gets more westerly detritus and decreasing sunshine towards Otaki/Levin/Palm Nth. To get back to W'gton city's sunshine levels you have to be near the coast around Foxton-Ohakea (with stronger winds again)...
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/11/2006 07:05

Probably Nelson(light winds),Napier or Gisborne with warm weather gets the best weather here
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/11/2006 08:44

Just wondering RWood - what suburb do you live in? I have a good mate living in Wellington -he lives in Brooklyn - really outstanding views from his place albeit a bit dimmed by the numerous trees.... smile , also my cousin lives in Wellington as well (Newlands) near the motorway leading from WGT city to Johnsonville, house is pearched right on top of a hill, have visited my cousin on a number of occasions - the worst wind is a southerly. Northerlies arent too bad - quite refreshing smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/11/2006 10:11

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Probably Nelson(light winds),Napier or Gisborne with warm weather gets the best weather here
Add Blenheim to the list - still has the best longterm sunshine mean....
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/11/2006 10:19

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Just wondering RWood - what suburb do you live in? I have a good mate living in Wellington -he lives in Brooklyn - really outstanding views from his place albeit a bit dimmed by the numerous trees.... smile , also my cousin lives in Wellington as well (Newlands) near the motorway leading from WGT city to Johnsonville, house is pearched right on top of a hill, have visited my cousin on a number of occasions - the worst wind is a southerly. Northerlies arent too bad - quite refreshing smile
I live in Kelburn on a northerly gradient road that slopes down towards the gardens. Protected from southerly, can blow hardish in the stronger N/NW situations. Have lived in quite a few other locations in gtr. Wellington - Karori in early childhood, Mt Victoria (city), Newlands, Tawa (14 years), Hataitai (most sheltered house but also the least sunny), Broadmeadows (facing NNE/E with very powerful northerlies but some southerly shelter) and another Kelburn location that faced N/S with hillsides to E and W.

Right now there is a storngish WNW blowing but I can sit in the sun in the backyard and cop only moderate breezes. cool

My partner used to live in Brooklyn in a spot that faces the harbour - good sun and no southerly at all.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/11/2006 18:08

Usual weather here,fresh SW and cloud with the sun going in and out of the clouds all day.No rain here though.14 to 19

Wellington strongish NW and mostly fine.17○

Christchurch as usual summery 23 degrees and fine.

Rain spreading up the west coast and Southland,cloudy in the west Levin to Northland,mostly fine elsewhere
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/11/2006 08:43

Can remember visiting Wellington during various periods in the 1990s - weather wasnt on its best behaviour (June 1995 really stood out for its S gales and heavy showers over 4-5 days), in the 2000s - weather was very settled with little wind, no rain and quite mild (March 2001).

Have noticed Southland isnt having a very good month November-wise, they are getting a lot of W-SW gales with frequent showers, as well as low temps. I can remember when I visited Invercargill in May 1990 - amazing for the numerous hail showers and cold SW gales. In May 2000 - weather was quite pleasant with many sunny and warm days (some days got to 21oC) with little rains.

Southland weather is quite fascinating to me because you simply dont know what to expect next. The weather doesnt always stick to the "4 season" routine. (Look at December 2004 which was the worst December on record for high rainfall and low temps - all in a SW-W airflow).

I read in a book somewhere that the W-SW winds are funnelled throught Foveaux Strait because of Steward Island - thus making the South Coast windier than at Stewart Island. I went to Slope Point about an hour and half drive east of Invercargill - saw all the trees permanently bent to the east - that was real amazing smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/11/2006 11:03

No part of NZ strictly sticks to the "4 season" stuff. As I said in another forum, I got a bit sick of the "variety" in the likes of Invercargill & Dunedin - however in one respect they could be generally relied on - you wouldn't get all that much sun in a month mostly - too cloudy. And in South Island locations generally, as I've pointed out, neither rain nor (% possible) sun necessarily decrease in winter or increase in summer relative to other seasons. It's a bit eccentric when you can have a location that once had 161 hrs of sun in a June (1959), about 66% of the possible, but then had just 60 hrs (13% or so of possible) in the same year.

The northern bays of Stewart Island are quite sheltered, but of course their beautiful bush gets a hell of a lot of rain days. The SW Cape location however has the highest windrun of any measured NZ coastal spot (so far averaging about 37kph or so in 10+ years of records)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/11/2006 11:10

PS re seasonal rainfall means in the South Island - if you look at all 3-month seasons, every one of the 12 combinations Jan-Mar, Feb-Apr, ..., Dec-Feb is represented in some locations as the wettest season!
That's not quite true for the driest 3 - 2 of the 12 miss out.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/11/2006 11:15

PS re seasonal rainfall means in the South Island - if you look at all 3-month seasons, every one of the 12 combinations Jan-Mar, Feb-Apr, ..., Dec-Feb is represented in some locations as the wettest season!
That's not quite true for the driest 3 - 2 of the 12 miss out.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/11/2006 13:23

Southland has the highest number of rain-days NZ-wide - most falling as showers (over 190-200 RDs per annum). It is actually rare for Southland to record daily falls over 50mm (from memory).

I went to Stewart Island (Oban) in May 2000, the weather was very pleasant with sun, no rain and light winds, stayed there for 4 days, however on the day of sailing back to Bluff from Oban through Foveaux Strait, it was very windy and the ferry was tossing to and fro quite heavily - I got lavishly sick LOL.

As you pointed out no part of NZ sticks to the 4-season routine - thats what makes the weather so interesting. In some cases Winter is the sunniest season in the SI, whilst Summer can be really cloudy while in other years it can be the reverse.

I went to Taupo in March 2001 for 3 days - arrived in the middle of a really heavy thunderstorm, just pounded down with rain for 5 hours with howling winds and quite cold, the next day - a beautiful day with sun, no rain and no wind at all, so goes to show the really changeable nature of the weather in NZ.

When I flew from Sydney to Dunedin this year, I left Sydney in 30oC heat and sunshine, arrived at Dunedin Airport in teeming rain, a SW gale and 13oC. Went for a drive around the Peninsula - the NE was blowing (and boy did it really blow!) we were in the car and we had to battle to open the car doors as it was blowing really hard LOL (We couldnt stop laughing and my mate even filmed me trying to open the door!)
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Went for a drive to Gore - weather changed dramatically from sunshine and 21oC in NW conditions at Dunedin to only 4oC at Gore with hail showers and cold strong SW winds - which I found so thrilling because it wasnt what I had expected. (On a lighter note - they certainly love the wide streets in Southland LOL).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/11/2006 16:21

Nice day in Ak today which means the opposite elsewhere.15-22c and lots of sun with a moderate WNW

Wellington mostly cloudy and little rain 15 was their max

Christchurch changeable winds and some rain late Reached 18 before lunchtime

Rain in the west and also some spreading up Southland and otago and eastern areas there but fine in the north and east of the NI
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 12:10

Can see its wet in Wellington today and fine in Auckland.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 12:21

Rwood - studying the sunshine figures for Invercargill - have noticed a increasing sunshine trend. The late 1970s/1980s were very cloudy years in Invercargill. What interests me is that during the 1980's, SW-W winds prevailed with increased cloudiness, yet during the 2000's, SW-W winds have prevailed and yet sunshine has been well above average - why is this occuring?

Have noted that in spite of the SW-W conditions at Invercargill - sunshine has already exceeded the average (for Nov).
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 12:36

Can see now the sun is coming out in Wellington. Rain clearing away rapidly.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 14:36

Maybe so but 17 max with a cold strong SW,if it was there in Sydney it would be considered a winter like day especially now laugh
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Originally posted by rainfan:
Can see its wet in Wellington today and fine in Auckland.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 15:11

Will be the case for Sydney on Sunday - max of only 20oC expected *shocked*
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 16:02

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Rwood - studying the sunshine figures for Invercargill - have noticed a increasing sunshine trend. The late 1970s/1980s were very cloudy years in Invercargill. What interests me is that during the 1980's, SW-W winds prevailed with increased cloudiness, yet during the 2000's, SW-W winds have prevailed and yet sunshine has been well above average - why is this occuring?

Have noted that in spite of the SW-W conditions at Invercargill - sunshine has already exceeded the average (for Nov).
I'm very very skeptical of the number from Stuff you've quoted for MTD sun for In'gill - it's probably wrong.

For the In'gill records in recent years, it's not really clear why the rain-sun correlation has reduced. There has been a second recorder using the newer radiation differential detection
technology at In'gill for a couple of years now and its values are only a little lower than for the longterm Campbell-Stokes equipment. Not enough is known at present to explain the data, I think.

Edit: 2000, 2001, 2003 & 2005 were not not dominated by W/SW - only 2002 & 2004. But the period 1988-1997 was sunnier for IVC than I would expect from the general climatology of the period.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 16:04

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Maybe so but 17 max with a cold strong SW,if it was there in Sydney it would be considered a winter like day especially now laugh
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Can see its wet in Wellington today and fine in Auckland.
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True it's not very warm, but felt fine in my sheltered area when the sun was out. But the clouds returned, with a couple of showers, at about 3pm

Oops - got my days muddled.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/11/2006 19:51

We just had the usual wind tunnel orientated to the SW and cloudy periods but dry.However they have reached gale force evening unfortunately.Low 10 High 17

Wellington fine with WNW but became variable with cloudy periods 16c.

Christchurch some rain with some hail in the afternoon and thunder.High 16

WSW flow dominated with showers and hail in the south and east and showers to the west.Stronger winds in the west of the NI
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 07:52

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
We just had the usual wind tunnel orientated to the SW and cloudy periods but dry.However they have reached gale force evening unfortunately.Low 10 High 17
More gross exaggerations NZAAS? Suggest you check out the Beaufort Wind Scale - http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/beaufort.html Gales are defined as winds with a mean windspeed between 34-40 kts (63-74 km/h). Most places around Auckland didn't even reach half that yesterday and the Manurewa AWS - http://www.weatherpix.co.nz shows max winds of less than 20 km/h with gusts to 31 km/h yesterday afternoon.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 08:54

Sorry, I meant 20 kts with gusts to 31 kts for Manurewa
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 10:55

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
[b] We just had the usual wind tunnel orientated to the SW and cloudy periods but dry.However they have reached gale force evening unfortunately.Low 10 High 17
More gross exaggerations NZAAS? Suggest you check out the Beaufort Wind Scale - http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/beaufort.html Gales are defined as winds with a mean windspeed between 34-40 kts (63-74 km/h). Most places around Auckland didn't even reach half that yesterday and the Manurewa AWS - http://www.weatherpix.co.nz shows max winds of less than 20 km/h with gusts to 31 km/h yesterday afternoon. [/b]
It's his specialty... :rolleyes:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 14:16

Same old boring weather with fresh SW and mostly overcast(the sun appearing now and then occasionally).Low 10 high 16

Wellington sunny with a fresh WNW and 18

Christchurch a fresh NW and 24 degrees

Some rain on the westcoast and morning about Southland otherwise fine elsewhere apart from the west north of Kapiti where there was increasing cloudiness
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 14:59

Looking at Auckland's live web-cam shows the sun shining with few clouds atm with a W of 12km/hr. NZAAS is talking about Manuwera (In south Auckland - is more exposed to the SWer), what he says doesnt apply to the whole of the Auckland area.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 15:09

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Rwood - studying the sunshine figures for Invercargill - have noticed a increasing sunshine trend. The late 1970s/1980s were very cloudy years in Invercargill. What interests me is that during the 1980's, SW-W winds prevailed with increased cloudiness, yet during the 2000's, SW-W winds have prevailed and yet sunshine has been well above average - why is this occuring?

Have noted that in spite of the SW-W conditions at Invercargill - sunshine has already exceeded the average (for Nov).
I'm very very skeptical of the number from Stuff you've quoted for MTD sun for In'gill - it's probably wrong.

For the In'gill records in recent years, it's not really clear why the rain-sun correlation has reduced. There has been a second recorder using the newer radiation differential detection
technology at In'gill for a couple of years now and its values are only a little lower than for the longterm Campbell-Stokes equipment. Not enough is known at present to explain the data, I think.

Edit: 2000, 2001, 2003 & 2005 were not not dominated by W/SW - only 2002 & 2004. But the period 1988-1997 was sunnier for IVC than I would expect from the general climatology of the period. [/b]
Re the sunshine readings from "Stuff" - I know they are not exactly correct, but it does sort of give us an idea of how sunshine has been faring. (Best thing to do is wait for the "offical" NIWA summary to come out) (NIWA will only put down Invercargills sunshine total if its more than 10% above the average).

So if the wind is from any other quarter except the SW-W - then sunshine tends to be above average ?? Thanks for the info Rwood (re 2000s and which winds prevailed).

I have come to the conclusion that just because the winds blow from the SW-W - it doesnt necessarily mean cloudier conditions for Invercargill (as was the case during the 70s and 80s), however its granted that SW-W conditions will deliver wetter than average conditions to Invercargill along with cooler temps.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 15:11

Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/11/2006 18:23

I get the monthly "digest" with this data in full, just have to wait till early Jan. to see November's data. For the total quoted in "Stuff" to be right there would generally have to have been a ration of clear NW days there - that's possible, we'll see.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/11/2006 18:15

Warm night and reached 20 earlier,Fresh N died out with some rain then cloudy.Low 14

Wellington NW gales and rain then winds eased later High 17

Christchurch some rain and 17

Heavy rain in the west of both islands and some spreading to eastern areas also with some thunderstorms on the westcoast
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/11/2006 18:35

Gales and heavy rain in Wellington last night with some slips and flooding.

Slips force road closures in lower NI
30 November 2006 (www.stuff.co.nz)

Wild wind and rain which lashed the lower North Island overnight continued to cause havoc today, with slips closing several roads in the region.

Wellington police Inspector Peter Stokes said a large slip had blocked State Highway 4 at Tapuwahine - about 10 Km north of Taumaranui today.

The slip covered both lanes and road-work crews were working to try to clear the highway, he said.

Mr Stokes said a number of slips along the highway had been reported and he warned motorists to expect long delays while the slips were being cleared.

Mr Stokes said rising levels of the Hutt River were threatening the Rutherford St car park, which flanked the river.

Police had received reports that river had been rising and cars parked in the car park, could encounter problems.

Overnight, wind ripped the roofs off four houses in the Wellington region overnight and the fire service was called to two homes in Kilbirnie, one in Johnsonville and one just outside of Wellington.


Lake Wakatipu is rising - causing fears of flooding in Queenstown (www.stuff.co.nz)

Retailers, farmers keep wary eye on rising water levels
30 November 2006

Heavy rainfall overnight has put residents, farmers and retailers throughout the lower South Island on flood alert.


Otago Regional Council flood manager John Threlfall said heavy rainfall in the Southern Alps and in parts of Central Otago had caused lake and river levels to rapidly rise.

Mr Threlfall said farmers had been warned if they had not already evacuated stock from vulnerable areas, they should as soon as possible.

Other people living or camping near riverbanks need to be on the alert as well, he said.

The most serious threat of flooding came from Lake Wakatipu, which continued to rise today after heavy rain during the last 24 hours, he said.

The lake was at 310.86m and was expected to peak at approximately 311m tonight.

The level where flooding in Queenstown was possible was 311.25m but estimates did not indicate the lake would reach that level over the next few days.

Floodwaters from lakes Wanaka and Wakatipu had combined to increase the flow in the Clutha River at Clyde to 1260 cumecs at 3.30pm today.

Heavy rain in the Idaburn and Manuherikia had also raised the level of the Manuherikia River at Ophir to 250 cumecs by 3.30pm, and the river was continuing to rise.

It was now expected to peak at approximately 270 cumecs early this evening, he said.

Further downstream, the Clutha River at Balclutha had increased gradually during the day and was flowing at 860 cumecs at 3.30pm.

As flood water from the Manuherikia and Upper Clutha Rivers made its way downstream, the river could reach as high as 107m (1800 cumecs) in the early hours of Friday morning.

Mr Threlfall said it was recommended that stock and equipment on low-lying areas be shifted to higher ground, and planes on the aerodrome be moved to safer locations.

Flows in the Pomahaka River had remained relatively low today, with the Burkes Ford site flowing at 70 cumecs and rising at 3.30pm, he said.

The council would continue to monitor lake levels and river flows across the region closely, he said.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/11/2006 21:17

It was relativey serene where I was - early rain at Picton cleared midmorning, then warm and sunny at Blenheim particularly for several hours before increasing cloud about 3pm.

W'gton rainfall YTD getting close to the 1505mm needed to balance 2005's deficit.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/12/2006 14:47

Weather started out very hideous and also for most of the country,Here we had SW as always and freshenedup in the afternoon but at least the showers cleared.Low 9 High 16

Wellington strong S and cloudy.Cold max 14

Christchurch am rain then cloudy,high 13

Generally it was boring and cold and wet but it cleared on the SI west coast due to the southerly and cleared here in Hamilton north but it remained beebop in the afternoon
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/12/2006 18:48

Here is an article from the Southland Times Paper re the heavy rain over the last few days over Southland and Otago.

A change for the better on the way
01 December 2006
By JARED MORGAN, and LOGAN SAVORY

Southerners can expect a break in the weather today as persistent heavy rain gives way to warmer north-westerly winds this afternoon and into tomorrow.

MetService forecaster Oliver Druce said Southland and Central Otago experienced "solid rain" from Wednesday until 5pm yesterday.

In the 24 hours to 5pm yesterday Invercargill recorded 32mm with Gore doused in 37mm over the same period, Mr Druce said.

Queenstown received 65mm and was placed on alert as the level of Lake Wakatipu passed its first flood warning indicator.

Between 100mm and 200mm of rain fell in the Wakatipu and Wanaka lakes catchments prompting Queenstown Lakes District Council to warn property owners and businesses in low-lying areas to check their flood evacuation plans.

However, it was unlikely serious flooding would occur as the heavy rain had passed, he said.

The Clutha River at Balclutha was expected to exceed its first flood warning level of 106 metres last night, and peak at about 106.5 metres during the night with farmers advised to move stock from low-lying areas.

Meanwhile Manapouri recorded only 26mm, Milford recorded 165mm while rainfall at the Homer Tunnel reached more than 200mm, Mr Druce said.

Showers were predicted to clear today with tomorrow tipped to be fine, he said.

The improving forecast was music to Queens Park groundsman Kevin Cooper's ears as the heavy rain left parts of the cricket outfield under water.

Faced with the task of getting the field up to scratch in time for tomorrow's scheduled Hawke Cup two-day cricket fixture, which would see Southland take on North Otago, Mr Cooper called in the reinforcements.The Invercargill Fire Service spent about two hours pumping ankle-deep water off the ground from 2.30pm yesterday in a bid to have the ground ready.

A decision would be made this morning by Southland Cricket officials to determine if the game would go ahead or whether the game would be abandoned with no alternative ground available.

Environment Southland senior technical officer Chris Jenkins said yesterday most southern rivers and stream flows had not changed significantly with the most affected Oreti and Mataura rivers peaking at their headwaters yesterday. Those peaks were expected to travel downstream overnight.

The Oreti River would peak at about 2.5m above normal at Wallacetown about 3am with the less affected Mataura peaking in Gore and Mataura about 9am.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/12/2006 19:00

Business owners on red alert
01 December 2006
By LIN FERGUSON, and IVOR HAYMAN

Queenstown business owners were put on red alert yesterday after heavy rain pushed Lake Wakatipu to its highest level since the devastating 1999 floods.

The lake level hit the first flood trigger level of 310.80m after heavy overnight rain and was expected to peak last night to 311.1m just 20cm short of the level of the 1999 flood.

Queenstown Lakes District council staff visited businesses in the central business district advising them to have their flood evacuation plans ready.

Otago Regional Council director of environmental information and science John Threlfall said people could expect to wake to ponding and low lying flooding by this morning in Queenstown.

Shopowners should start moving their stock higher, he said.

Mr Threlfall said he did not expect a full scale flood level during the next couple of days but said the long range forecast for Sunday looked a bit "dodgy".

"We're not going to worry too much at this point. We'll take it day by day and monitor the situation very carefully. The expected low could change over the next few hours."

A special flood watch was put in place last night at the Otago Regional Council headquarters in Dunedin, he said.

"We'll be monitoring day and night. We are all on red alert."

A full flood alert was also put in place for Balclutha because of floodwaters coming from both the Manuherikia and Clutha rivers.

Those two rivers converge into the lower levels of the Clutha, near Balclutha.

The lower Clutha River near Balclutha could reach as high as 107m in the early hours of the morning, he said.

"But the farmers there are quite used to this and most of them have already moved stock to higher ground."

Owners of aircraft at the Balclutha aerodrome had also been warned to shift airplanes to safer locations, he said.

Mr Threlfall said that at this stage Clyde and Alexandra should be fine. But we're monitoring constantly."


Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/12/2006 16:20

Blue dome sky in Auckland however the SSW Rose to Gale Force in the afternoon.Temp 11 to 18

Wellington fresh winds mostly from between south or westsouthwest and fine 15

Christchurch fresh ENE and fine 17

Fine everywhere apart from clearing in Hawkes Bay and Gisborne and showery about Southland and Fiordland
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/12/2006 14:50

Cloudy and also long fine spells but as usual the never ending Southwesterly was strong dawn to dusk.Low 12 High 18
Wellington Fresh N and mainly fine with 18

Christchurch fine with NE and 20

It was fine in the east of both islands and cloudy periods in the west and north but some rain on the westcoast
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/12/2006 14:10

Lighter winds today with high cloud mostly westerly,unfortunately another horrid change to Southwesterlies for another week is to follow the front with another intensifying stationary tasman high with cold SW.low 13 high 19

Wellington little am rain then cloudy with fresh S 16
Christchurch light S winds and after light rain earlier,just cloudy 17

A front is moving up the country with a weak S flow into eastern districts and clear in the west of the SI and Southland and cloud increasing up north
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/12/2006 16:51

SW rose to Gale Force last night and then again this morning with 8/8 but luckilly by lunch they abated considerably and mostly sunny,Low 12 to 18

Wellington mostly cloudy and a fresh S,Temp 15
ditto for Christchurch with a fresh SSW

Cloudy and fine periods for most with S or SW winds but showers to the far east of the NI and some buildups in the north island high country
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/12/2006 17:36

For those who are interested in Auckland's long-range weather forecast - here is the link :-

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=auckland

(This also shows other NZ cities forecasts such as Wellington, Queenstown, Invercargill etc). Happy looking/reading smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/12/2006 13:06

November 2006 for Auckland :- Sunshine - 201 hours (105% of normal), rainfall - 100mm (108% of normal) and mean temp of 16oC - only (0.1oC below normal), a very average month weatherwise for Auckland.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/12/2006 14:37

Nice clear day but SSW were strong in the afternoon,Low 12 High 18

Wellington 17 and mostly sunny,S dying out

Christchurch light NE and clear and sunny with 20

Mostly fine over the country with some afternoon high country buildups and high cloud in the far south
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 05:05

Reading the NIWA Nov 2006 summary - gales hit Auckland twice (on the 9th/10th) only during the whole month, and also mentions that "it was much windier in the South and East of the North Island as well as over much of the South Island" - no mention of Auckland which is suited in the North of the North Island part (or West of the NI as some people believe) so I know who I believe here when it comes to talking winds.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 06:30

Did you find that in a news page? NIWA's summary on their website hasn't appeared yet.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 07:26

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Reading the NIWA Nov 2006 summary - gales hit Auckland twice (on the 9th/10th) only during the whole month, and also mentions that "it was much windier in the South and East of the North Island as well as over much of the South Island" - no mention of Auckland which is suited in the North of the North Island part (or West of the NI as some people believe) so I know who I believe here when it comes to talking winds.
True - but he provides predictable relief from all the storm-chasing stuff on the NZ forum wink - that's fine, but that forum could perhaps do with a bit more discussion on other topics. I find this one has a bigger range of topics, also the UKWW forum.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 08:09

NIWA emailed me the summary yesterday RWood (I emailed them yesterday morning and asked when were they going to put it out on thier web-site and I got the summary in return) smile

It can be a relief at times, but it can be annoying at times too especially as rarely points out the positives of Aucklands weather and it gives international people the wrong idea of the weather in Auckland so I point out some positives of Aucklands weather from time to time (having lived in Auckland in previous years). He can do that on the NZ one as much as he likes, doesnt bother me (Kiwis know the weather in Auckland better than international folk), but on this forum - I do point out positives from time to time (for the benefit of potential tourists thinking of going to NZ). smile

Yes the NZ forum is very quiet those days now, it seems that they dont like to discuss a huge range of topics, I frankly find your posts the only interesting ones on the NZ one (and a certain person from Southland named *f..tt..b.e. - like reading her posts as well). :cheers:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 09:29

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
NIWA emailed me the summary yesterday RWood (I emailed them yesterday morning and asked when were they going to put it out on thier web-site and I got the summary in return) smile

It can be a relief at times, but it can be annoying at times too especially as rarely points out the positives of Aucklands weather and it gives international people the wrong idea of the weather in Auckland so I point out some positives of Aucklands weather from time to time (having lived in Auckland in previous years). He can do that on the NZ one as much as he likes, doesnt bother me (Kiwis know the weather in Auckland better than international folk), but on this forum - I do point out positives from time to time (for the benefit of potential tourists thinking of going to NZ). smile

Yes the NZ forum is very quiet those days now, it seems that they dont like to discuss a huge range of topics, I frankly find your posts the only interesting ones on the NZ one (and a certain person from Southland named *f..tt..b.e. - like reading her posts as well). :cheers:
Yes, the latter named poster is very positive (to the point of unrealism, but that balances the anti-Auckland negativity). Did the NIWA summary mention any sunshine notables, or areas were temps were more than 0.5C off? (I know the nationwide delta was -0.1C so undramatic temps. overall)

One negative I find on the UK site - too many hyper-cynical smart-alecks who think it's fashionable to rubbish anybody and everybody who believes human-accelerated global warming is a real threat. Otherwise, I find it very interesting, with a large range of topics.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 09:34

When you can get comments out of TonyT on general weather/climatology, he's good. But of course he's also pretty busy with Blue Skies.

To veer off slightly, there are now quite a few sites on the NIWA reports using KZ sunshine recorders (radiation detection) instead of the old Campbell-Stokes. The comparabilities with older records will be interesting. The newer data may yet in quite a few cases justify my assertion that some places were being shortchanged (ie values too low). I think I mentioned that In'gill has both types running and the new one reads a few % lower, but that's not a vast difference.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 09:49

NZ wide temp was 13.6oC, only 0.1oC below average.

Record/near record Nov. high temps in Hawkes Bay, Napiers Airport - mean daily max of 23.1oC - 2.6oC above avge and resembled a Jan. month than a Nov.month.

Low mean temps in S and W of SI (as much as 1.0oC below avge over Westland and parts of Southland/central Otago) (Wanaka - 2nd lowest Nov. mean temp on record (11.3oC to 13.3oC).

Very cloudy in west of NI from Waitako to Manawatu - 99 hrs at Taumarunui (Lowest Nov. total and missing 1 day), 108 hrs at Palmy (cloudiest Nov. on record) and 139 hrs at New Plymouth (3rd lowest Nov. total on record and cloudiest since 1982) and 143 hrs at Ruakura (Hamilton) - 2nd cloudiest Nov. on record.

Wellington - 12.8oC (0.6oC below avge), 173mm of rain (175% above normal) and 191 hrs of sun (91% of normal), so havent done too bad with the sunshine RWood (well compared to October) smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 09:54

Have noted that Dunedin has seen above average sunshine (well above in some months) for 11 months in a row - could this be why? (in reference to your comments about 2 different types of sunshine readers being used), If the newer one is short-changing some other sites - it certainly doesnt seem to be doing so for Dunedin laugh
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 10:27

Thanks! The Palm Nth and Taumaranui sites I regard as a bit suspect at present (Taum. site exposure deterioration, significantly lower ever since about 1986) - Palm Nth has new KZ recorder and "my jury" is undecided as yet on it. Interesting for N. Plym. is that up to end-Aug it was far ahead of its average, competing with the top spots, well ahead of Gisborne and Napier. But spring has seen it slump back, and Gis/Nap are now ahead of it!.

I thougt HB day temps had been very high, even allowing for TV exaggeration. W'gton certainly felt cooler than average, especially with the high winds.

Dunedin is still using old C/S at the same site, but it was closed in 1997 and reopened about 2002. Since then the readings have been much higher and I regard them as a bit doubtful (though I also think the old site had deteriorated steadily thru' 70s-90s!). Too early to come to a definite conclusion. Several other places, as I hinted above, need further study (in several cases higher readings with new KZ seem very realistic to me).

I have received confirmed summaries for sun for 2005 and whne they're in my database I'll send you a Dunedin graph - that will make the point very clearly.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 11:46

Quote:
Yes the NZ forum is very quiet those days now, it seems that they dont like to discuss a huge range of topics,
Hey hey if a lot of the younger members were older then there'd be quite a bit more discussion on the likes of past climate etc where we weren't even born! smile

Nice and sunny the last few days here with blue skies, showers and thunderstorms threaten from tomorrow evening with a trough.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 13:37

The climate was better in the past ie the 60s and 70s,summers started earlier and were longer plus winter had more frosts and to an earlier reply on this thread,This so-called summer a 20c day is still a barrier to reach let alone surpass though its happening about once or twice a week plus a synoptic chart that one screws their nose up seeing continual SW flows and one after another anticyclone 15 latitude furthur north than 2000km west of here
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/12/2006 15:15

Cloudy in Auckland today but as it was mid layer cloud the sun shone in a milky grey white sky
Moderate SW and low 13 High 19

Wellington Fine but becoming cloudy with strengthening NW,High 19

Christchurch again fine and warm with Norwesters and 24

Rain in the west and south of the SI but dry elsehere with cloud in western NI areas
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/12/2006 09:31

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Have noted that Dunedin has seen above average sunshine (well above in some months) for 11 months in a row - could this be why? (in reference to your comments about 2 different types of sunshine readers being used), If the newer one is short-changing some other sites - it certainly doesnt seem to be doing so for Dunedin laugh
I should add that there are few NZ sites for which some part of the sunshine historical record does not look doubtful - there are so many possible causes of either temporary anomalies in the readings, or longer-term anomalous trends. As I said, when enough new KZ sites are operating and settled in the picture may become cleare with respect to past records.

It's difficult to assess assertions like NZAAS's about Auckland summers, at least re sunshine, as there have been several site changes.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/12/2006 14:20

Well we can all guess the forecast....Wait....

Cloud increasing..Strong winds..Rain...SW gales tomorrow...Showers...Becoming colder...maybe some sun

Today was warmer low 14 High 20,gusty westerlies and dry,mainly cloudy

Wellington overcast with some am rain,High 17 with WNW abating

Christchurch light winds mostly S high 16 dry

Generally fine in the east with high cloud and rain on the westcoast and showers in the lower west NI and Southland
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/12/2006 07:34

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Quote:
Yes the NZ forum is very quiet those days now, it seems that they dont like to discuss a huge range of topics,
Hey hey if a lot of the younger members were older then there'd be quite a bit more discussion on the likes of past climate etc where we weren't even born! smile

Nice and sunny the last few days here with blue skies, showers and thunderstorms threaten from tomorrow evening with a trough.
It doesnt matter how old we are - the point I was making out was they just dont seem to like making chit - chat about small things - and sometimes they can be rude - putting certain members down and certainly not helpful as I have seen some questions put down and no one responds - not a good look in my book.

As I said before - NZ weather forum is so quite those days - thats why (according to certain members who have emailed me) - too unhelpful and too sincluar + too anti - Auckland as well. Too focused on Canterbury. Not enough information from remote corners of NZ. I like to hear from every - where in NZ - not just certain cities/regions if u know what I mean.


To be fair its quite a good forum but needs to be a bit more lively and more discussions about weather, data etc.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/12/2006 07:59

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
The climate was better in the past ie the 60s and 70s,summers started earlier and were longer plus winter had more frosts and to an earlier reply on this thread,This so-called summer a 20c day is still a barrier to reach let alone surpass though its happening about once or twice a week plus a synoptic chart that one screws their nose up seeing continual SW flows and one after another anticyclone 15 latitude furthur north than 2000km west of here
All I can say is deal with it and get over it. Its the 2000s now, not the 1960s/1970s, so naturally the weather has changed (and not forgetting that NZ has a maritime climate) - so no year experiences the same weather year by year.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/12/2006 08:07

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:


It's difficult to assess assertions like NZAAS's about Auckland summers, at least re sunshine, as there have been several site changes. [/QB]
Thats true Rwood - Auckland sunshine recordings have been taken at many different sites, so makes it hard to see what the long-term average sunshine hours are. As for NZAAS - I rely on the NIWA summaries - I dont believe his posts at all as they are too grossly exaggerated.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/12/2006 08:07

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:


It's difficult to assess assertions like NZAAS's about Auckland summers, at least re sunshine, as there have been several site changes. [/QB]
Thats true Rwood - Auckland sunshine recordings have been taken at many different sites, so makes it hard to see what the long-term average sunshine hours are. As for NZAAS - I rely on the NIWA summaries - I dont believe his posts at all as they are too grossly exaggerated.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/12/2006 13:06

These so far are temps in Auckland maximums for December from the NZ Herald,previous days readings.1st 21.3 2nd 16.3 3rd being sunday no proper readings 4th 18.3 5th 20.1 6th 18.0 7th 18.8 8th 18.7 9th 20.2
They call it summer eek
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/12/2006 16:35

Cold today with occasional heavy showers and little thunder after lunch.Light W becoming light S in the afternoon.Low 10 High 16c

Wellington wet and cold with strong Southerlies High 12
Christchurch cold and showery 13

Rain/showers and some thunderstorms mostly in the north island but fine on the westcoast
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 06:49

Pathetic... no where here is expected to reach 20 mad
Posted by: Seabreeze

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 10:48

Don't worry NZAAS, Tuesday and Wednesday are forecasted to reach 21C and Thursday is expected to reach 20C in Auckland. Also, on a side note, Hastings is expected to hit 25C on Tuesday and Wednesday, and Napier is expected to hit 24C on Tuesday then 25C on Wednesday.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 15:02

Most of the W and NW suburbs of Auckland managed over 20 today and plenty of above 20 temps were also recorded last month.

Yesterday, it may have only been 16 in NZAA's cooler cloudier and gusty neck of woods, but MetService's average max temp for the Auckland region was 18.5.

Figures published in the NZ Herald are from 6pm to 6pm (not 9am to 9am) and appear to be taken from Auckland Airport to the S, which generally is cooler than the rest of the city during prevailing WSW'ers.

Summer may officially start in Dec but, Dec is a transition month for Auckland and higher temps don't usually begin until about New Years Day, with the highest temps often occurring in Feb or Mar. Having said that, El Nino probably means temps will be below average this summer (something more for NZAA to moan about).

NZAA's posting's are not representative of the general Auckland region. Heck, they're not even an accurate representation of his own little imaginary world. I suspect that when negative people can't find things to be negative about, they tend to make them up. This is meant to be a forum for enthusiasts, not wet blankets!
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 15:30

Well here I can see our weather and though it was a sunny day the temp was 10 to 17 and since 3pm the SouthWesterly is Freshened up and now rather strong but still fine

Wellington S dying out with light winds this afternoon,Sunny 16

Christchurch 19 sunny and light ENE

Fine most places with cloud skimming the far south late and clearing showers to the east of the NI

If we get a day over 30 its front page news here and in 1998 when it was hot 27-30 for 10 days in a row the power fails,the water drys up,how could this place cope with 1 days heat that Adelaide,Melbourne and other Australian cities and even Hobart sometimes gets.
Posted by: Boeing 787

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 15:37

e.g. the 42C in Melbourne today! Btw, Melbourne recorded the highest temp so far this summer of all Australian capital cities with 42.1C recorded today

NZAAS I can understand that you are cut when it's below 20C even in December.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 15:49

As the poster from Waiheke says it could be a couple of degrees warmer in other suberbs and on sheltered from the SW like Waiheke Island and probably is 19 or 20 there,but have seen water in the Manukau harbour this arvo and its white waveletes all over.Nice day though after what we been through though
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/12/2006 17:20

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Most of the W and NW suburbs of Auckland managed over 20 today and plenty of above 20 temps were also recorded last month.

Yesterday, it may have only been 16 in NZAA's cooler cloudier and gusty neck of woods, but MetService's average max temp for the Auckland region was 18.5.

Figures published in the NZ Herald are from 6pm to 6pm (not 9am to 9am) and appear to be taken from Auckland Airport to the S, which generally is cooler than the rest of the city during prevailing WSW'ers.

Summer may officially start in Dec but, Dec is a transition month for Auckland and higher temps don't usually begin until about New Years Day, with the highest temps often occurring in Feb or Mar. Having said that, El Nino probably means temps will be below average this summer (something more for NZAA to moan about).

NZAA's posting's are not representative of the general Auckland region. Heck, they're not even an accurate representation of his own little imaginary world. I suspect that when negative people can't find things to be negative about, they tend to make them up. This is meant to be a forum for enthusiasts, not wet blankets!
Heck, you'll spoil his fun! laugh wink

Don't worry - there are plenty of enthusiasts on the NZ forum - you need to persuade some of them to join this one. :cheers:

It is of interest that frequent WSW nothwithstanding, sunshine records from Auckland Aero for the period of record 1969-1990 or thereabouts were fully competitive with readings from any other present or past Auckland sites.
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/12/2006 02:03

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:

Summer may officially start in Dec but, Dec is a transition month for Auckland and higher temps don't usually begin until about New Years Day, with the highest temps often occurring in Feb or Mar.
The same kind of thing happens in the UK during summer. June can be quite cool at times, with below 20C max temps common (sometimes below 15C). The warmer temps don't usually occur until July and August (and occasionally September).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/12/2006 05:55

Yes even on a fine day like yesterday in the afternoon we had this wind from the SW which is not a seabreeze either that keeps the temperatures down that constantly blows during the day in the spring/summer months
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/12/2006 06:34

Here is a link to a web-cam of Auckland (its live).

http://www.portunus.net.nz/weather/cam.jpg
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/12/2006 17:09

Well we had our calmest day with moderate WSW and it was sunny too but again the next high rolls in the tasman,remains there another week giving us windy cold Southwesterlies.Low 13 high 20

Wellington PC and fresh NW high 19

Christchurch fine and warm as usual with 28 Fresh NW

Rain in the west and south of the SI,mostly fine elsewhere
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/12/2006 22:57

No developing southwesterlies Michael beyond Friday laugh .. in fact looks like a lot of northerly or northeasterly winds on the way which should support decent convection inland.

Victorian fires quite evident in the South Island last few days with quite an orangey tinge in the sky being seen from there.

Weather has been great the last few days, storms and large hail then blue domes! laugh cool
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/12/2006 23:51

I want to apologise for some of the comments I made re the NZ weather forum in a earlier post, I reliase that some of the comments were too harsh and unfair in some respects, I tend to speak my mind with out-thinking, so apologies again for those I might have upset especially to Willoughby as the comments were made when responding to his post. NZ weather forum is quite good really with some really nice people, just a bit too quiet and unhelpful for my liking at times but thats ok - its the same with every other weather forum. :cheers:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/12/2006 12:36

We will have to see it before believing it,every high always has a SW kink over it here even if its centre is south of here,Watch Emmerdale,Eastenders or similar in a country scene and thats the winds we get here,On a positive note it hardly even drizzeled and has become sunny abeit a fresh to strong SW.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/12/2006 16:23

The SW were fresh today with 8/8 morning and afternoon.Low 14 high 19

Wellington fine with Fresh S or SSW 19

Christchurch S at 1st become light NE 18

Afternoon showers in the ranges and cloudy north of Hamilton and fine elsewhere
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/12/2006 23:13

Was mainly fine and warm in the upper North Island on Saturday, heavy rain slid up the West Coast of the SI and some widespread rain lurked around Otago too. Becoming very wet over the NI with the shallow low due Sunday night.. should be some more decent thunderstorms about on Tues! laugh

Has been quite a cool December so far.

Today's Tmax: Gisborne - 26C
Min-Tmax: Dunedin - 12C
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/12/2006 18:57

Well it was quite calm for once and it was warm on 20 or 21.A little afternoon rain
Hope the SW stay away but they wont

Wellington had some light showers and winds went round the clock to the south late18

Christchurch had 16 and cooler S

Fine over the southern 1/2 of the SI with rain or showers elsewhere,Fine in the NE of the NI
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/12/2006 12:41

This bearing system is starting to deliver torrential downpours, Rotorua yesterday where 100mm fell in two hours! MetService have severe thunderstorm watches in force over Northland today and tomorrow, has been quite sticky here today, dewpoint 18C and heavy showers about.

Quote:
Issued by MetService at 11:16am 19-Dec-2006

SOME HEAVY THUNDERY DOWNPOURS IN NORTHLAND TODAY.
HEAVY RAIN TONIGHT AND TOMORROW FOR NORTHERN HALF OF THE NORTH ISLAND.

A low developing west of Northland is expected to move slowly southwards today
and cross southern North Island areas tomorrow morning.
A band of heavy rain is expected to lie from Northland down to
Taranaki tonight,and this rainband will move slowly across the North
Island tomorrow.
Heavy downpours in thunderstorms are likely in parts of Northland
today and in many other northern North Island areas tomorrow.

People in these areas are advised to be aware of the possibility of localized flash flooding, slips, and hazardous driving conditions.
The NASA ISS crew were working right over NZ when this stunning shot was taken on Saturday. smile


Even more amazing, if you have a look at the full res. version under the dude's left foot you can see two remaining icebergs east of Bank's Peninsular! eek
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/165304main_image_feature_719_ys_full.jpg
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/12/2006 13:00

wow@ the pic
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/12/2006 15:08

What a great pic - love it - looks so stunning - the layout of the top half of the SI and can see the lower half of the NI as well - its enough to send my imagination into overdrive. :cheers:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 05:57

Wow. NZ's South Island may end up having a wee bit of a "White Xmas".

Summer snow predicted

By PAUL GORMAN | Wednesday, 20 December 2006

New Zealand's topsy-turvy weather may be about to spring a pre-Christmas surprise snow.

Weather forecasters are keeping a close eye on a low-pressure system that is predicted to deepen east of the South Island this afternoon and tonight, dragging a strong to gale-force southerly airstream from the Southern Ocean over Canterbury.
Rain is expected to spread north during the day, with snow falling as low as 600m later.
That means Cantabrians may have more chance of seeing snow in the next two days than people in northern hemisphere cities. Tokyo is expecting a balmy and sunny 13deg tomorrow and London a cloudy and raw 5deg.
While sleet and snow are unusual in a southern hemisphere summer, they are not unknown.
On Christmas Day in 1975, a southerly blast brought rain, hail and sleet to Christchurch and snow flurries to Gore, and snow lay briefly on the ground in some Central Otago townships.
MetService spokesman Bob McDavitt said the exact nature of the approaching southerly had yet to be determined, but it could hang around until Saturday.
"These southerlies will be cold enough to bring some snow to the hills in time for Christmas, and strong enough to bring a brief period of gales to the Canterbury coast," he said. "We're certainly talking windy and cold and southerly anywhere between Canterbury and Gisborne."
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 16:31

Cold across N.Z again with Rain clearing to 8/8 then PC with SW Rising to becoming Strong late Afternoon,Cold maximum of only 17.Low was 13

Wellington Showers earlier with strong NW high 17

Christchurch Showers arrived this morning and becaming much colder during the afternoon High was 16 morning
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 18:13

Your numbers came from...?
Seemed more like 18-19C this pm in W'gton and I suspect also in Auckland.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 19:41

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Your numbers came from...?
Seemed more like 18-19C this pm in W'gton and I suspect also in Auckland.
Correct, MetService's average Max temp for Auckland today was 20.5C at 2:28pm and I suspect the Min hasn't been reached yet, i.e. tonight will probably be cooler than this morning. Even the Manurewa AWS shows a Max of 19.2C at 2:59pm today.
confused
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 20:17

and they call this summer sheesh
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 21:51

Quote:
Originally posted by squid:
and they call this summer sheesh
Well technically it's still spring until December 22. And meteorologically speaking, we're still in the spring pattern, i'm guessing like a large portion of Australia is too.

However this December has been quite cool, much like the Decembers of Perth in 2005 or even NZ of 2004.

Lapse rates steepening tomorrow with an upper trough moving over the North island, 500mb temps dropping to -28C! So could be some hailstorms or showers developing.

Looks like fine sunny weather over much of NZ for Xmas/Boxing Day laugh
:cheers:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/12/2006 23:07

Sort of agree with Willoughby - no, 'they' don't call this summer, 'they' call it Dec (see my post on the preceding page).

El Nino is probably responsible for Auckland's slightly cooler average Dec temps to date and the coming summer will no doubt also reflect this.

However, being an ex-pat, squid should well know that Auckland normally has a very temperate climate, i.e. mean temps normally only vary by about 8C between summer and winter, although extremes in Jan, Feb and Mar may often reach into the high 20's and given Auckland's relatively high humidity levels, anything over about 24 can be a little uncomfortable.

Compared to the extremes of a lot of Australian cities, I personally think Auckland has one of the best all-round climates in the world, but don't take my word for it, ask most southerners why they moved to Auckland and the answer is usually 'better climate' (unless of course they ended up in Manurewa).
laugh
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 07:16

You'll have NZAAS in hysterics. Auckland is "sort of" OK, but most of us if wanting to move to more benign climes inside NZ would pick the likes of Nelson, Blenheim, Napier or similar - ie the sunnier parts with relatively lowish rainfall and fewer rain days. Temps. aren't everything, and in any event Napier daytime means compare very favourably with Auckland's.

Having said that, NZAAS just makes up numbers to support his complaining. There are many places in NZ whose more exposed spots have persistently irritating prevailing winds - the answer for those who don't like them is to move to other parts! Even in the Wellington area this can be achieved to a fair degree.

I think squid has a short memory. It is absurd to compare summer in NZ with summer in Aus. - not just because of the temperatures. Perth for example, gets far more sun in an average summer month than any place in NZ has ever received, even though its days are a bit shorter.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 08:28

That would explain why 1.5 million people live in Auckland - the biggest city in NZ. Other cities in NZ ie Hamilton, Welly, Chch and Dunedin all have population bases under the 500,000 mark.

If the weather was that ghastly - then I am sure 1.5 million people wouldnt call Auckland home.

I read in a book recently that many people shift to Auckland from everywhere else in NZ because of the warmer climate AND for jobs which are the highest paying in the whole of NZ as well as having all services and amenties.

Wind - I would pick coastal Southland/Otago/Wellington as most of the times I have been down to those places - it has been very windy.

I agree with RWood - cant really compare NZ and Oz's summers together. NZ is a country with a maritime climate and its made up of 3 islands in the middle of the South Pacific Ocean which lies in the belt of the "Roaring 40's" (Especially over the southern half of the SI) and is subjected to changeable weather. Plus the El Nino pattern brings more W-SW winds to NZ - causing cooler and in some areas (Eastern areas of both Islands and N and W of the NI) drier and sunnier weather and other areas wetter and cloudier weather (mainly the W and S of the SI)

(Remember that Australia is the largest Island in the world and the only Island which is also a continent. It is the 2nd - driest continent in the world (After Antarctica.) and is also the hottest and climatically aggressive of all inhabited continents).
Posted by: Rob G

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 10:21

Quote:
Nev wrote:
Sort of agree with Willoughby - no, 'they' don't call this summer, 'they' call it Dec (see my post on the preceding page).
In terms of solar radiation mid summer is the solstice, or December the 21st , so technically December is mid summer proper. However the thermal inertia of the oceans means that weather patterns lag the position of the sun, so temperature-wise for most parts of the southern hemisphere summer begins in December. On the other hand strength of solar radiation is reflected in extreme maxima. In Australia extreme maxima are higher in spring (Sep Nov) than in autumn (Mar May) because the sun is more intense during spring. I expect it would be the same in NZ.

I suspect that if NZAAS spent a week in the dry heat of inland NSW with endless blue sky, he would soon miss Aucklands 8/8 cloud, gales, &etc smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 10:34

No, in fact extreme maxima in spring in NZ generally lag those of autumn, because of the maritime climate, even in eastern districts. There's a slight variation in midsummer max. warmth in that central Otago, inland Canterbury and a few other areas have January a little warmer than Feb., while in western coastal areas, especially in the north, the reverse is true. Overall the 2 months are about equal.

I would point out to rainfan that per capita income is higher in W'gton than in Auckland - from memory - or at least in the wealthier electorates when compared to Auckland equivalents, because of the higher proportion of "white collar" workers. We're a pretty sophisticated lot here... laugh laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 15:14

Another cold late winter type day everywhere,Gale Force SW and cold with light showers and sun that shines to tempt then clouds over again,Low 12 high 17

Wellington PC strong S and 13

Christchurch Cold high 12 and colder in the afternoon,Showers and cloudy conditions with strong SSW

Fine in the westcoast SI and cold with clouds and showers or rain everywhere but best weather on westcoast
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 17:28

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:


I would point out to rainfan that per capita income is higher in W'gton than in Auckland - from memory - or at least in the wealthier electorates when compared to Auckland equivalents, because of the higher proportion of "white collar" workers. We're a pretty sophisticated lot here... laugh laugh
laugh cool .

Admittedly am a bit biased towards Auckland, having lived there for some years. To be fair Wellington does have some excellent clothes shops and great culinary places..... wink and theres the Beehive as well..... :nerd:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 20:56

A little pro-Auckland bias won't do much harm - to countervail (love that word! smile ) a certain source of anti-Auckland propaganda!

For myself, I often yearn for the Mainland even though I wasn't born there. A few days in "the top of the South" recently gave me some spiritual rejuvenation - but I've got to get back to the lakes and mountains (MacKenzie, Central Otago especially) smile
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/12/2006 22:01

Wellington weather is shocking, long cold wet and windy winters with short mild summers. I lived there for over 30 years and after living in Southern Vic for 19 years I have no desire to return...hang on after being away for 19 years maybe things have changed in Wellington, I hope they have.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 06:46

Although NZAAS seems to have a problem distinguishing Gusts from Gales, it was fairly windy yesterday and very cool this morning, particularly in the far S of Auckland, with max gusts ranging between 40-65km/h and min temps ranging about 7-10C.

With regards as to when summer begins and ends here in terms of temps (not solar radiation), mean air temps are about same at Dec solstice as they are at Mar equinox, so I think Willoughby has a valid point (although there's probably even more of lag with local SST's).

In saying best 'all-round climate' for Auckland, I wasn't just referring to sunshine - nothing wrong with just the right amount of intermittent rainfall to keep things green and lush and the tanks topped up for those of us lucky enough to be on pure clean tank water. Auckland generally records about 50% of available sunshine hours and rain or showers don't last usually that long.

Here on Waiheke Island it's a lot sunnier and drier than than mainland Auckland due to the shadow effect of the city during prevailing WSW'ers, although (contrary to what the tourist brochures will tell you) temps and winds probably average out about the same as the general Auckland region because of our even more maritime climate. Btw, NZ is made up of a lot more than just 3 islands. Waiheke is the 5th largest island after Great Barrier and the 3rd most populated.
cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 06:55

From what I've seen/read/heard about the southern Vic. climate, I have no desire at all to swap with you. shocked Perth or Brisbane - now that would be different. cool

I'm glad that at least you left, because I can't stand moaners. mad For all that, Wellington attracts ever-increasing numbers of tourists despite the wind (which even with a 12% decrease in speeds over the last 2 decades is still pretty considerable), and house prices keep going up. I'd be quite happy if more people left!! smile

If you were living in one of Australia's nicer climate zones, you'd find any part of NZ to be very ordinary. You can't count on the NZ weather here in any season - eg Napier, where last March a cricket test was plagued by 5+ straight days of drizzle and showers.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 07:00

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Although NZAAS seems to have a problem distinguishing Gusts from Gales, it was fairly windy yesterday and very cool this morning, particularly in the far S of Auckland, with max gusts ranging between 40-65km/h and min temps ranging about 7-10C.

With regards as to when summer begins and ends here in terms of temps (not solar radiation), mean air temps are about same at Dec solstice as they are at Mar equinox, so I think Willoughby has a valid point (although there's probably even more of lag with local SST's).

In saying best 'all-round climate' for Auckland, I wasn't just referring to sunshine - nothing wrong with just the right amount of intermittent rainfall to keep things green and lush and the tanks topped up for those of us lucky enough to be on pure clean tank water. Auckland generally records about 50% of available sunshine hours and rain or showers don't last usually that long.

Here on Waiheke Island it's a lot sunnier and drier than than mainland Auckland due to the shadow effect of the city during prevailing WSW'ers, although (contrary to what the tourist brochures will tell you) temps and winds probably average out about the same as the general Auckland region because of our even more maritime climate. Btw, NZ is made up of a lot more than just 3 islands. Waiheke is the 5th largest island after Great Barrier and the 3rd most populated.
cool
It's not just sunshine - those northern zones, including Waiheke and the like, are much more humid than the towns I cited. One of their attractions, of course, is that not all that many people realise that there are places south of the Bombay Hills - just as well, really. I can hope that a decade or two more will go by before that changes. Your assertion that Waiheke is sunnier than nearby mainland is untested by any official measurements.

You don't need Auckland levels of rainfall or rainday frequency to keep water supplies adequate!!
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 08:03

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Your assertion that Waiheke is sunnier than nearby mainland is untested by any official measurements.
That's merely simple and plain local observation. One doesn't need 'official measurements' when you can see the mainland with it's cloud build-ups quite clearly from Waiheke. Local temps and rainfall figures supplied by 'Weatherwise Auckland' are also published alongside their comparative Auckland figures in one of the island's local weekly rags.

Also, just like the towns you cited, Waiheke's climate seems well suited to it's thriving wine (and olive) industry.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 08:41

That's fine - just as long as too many Aucklanders don't change their minds and start moving south - already happening to parts of Nelson province.

In the meanwhile I'll (soonish be happy to) take the extra 400 hrs of sun Nelson/Blenheim/Motueka have over Auck. (say 300 over Waiheke if you're an optimist), or the Napier day temps. which are obtained without the disadvantage of the northern humidity.

Rainfall normal data show Waiheke measuring sites in periods up to 1980 or so with the same mean annual rainfall as the main swathe of Auckland, ie in the range 1150-1300mm.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 10:41

Well, I have to admit I wasn't here prior to 1980, but then Waiheke can get a fair dollop from the odd tropical N'erly. I will stand by my assertion of much greater sunshine hours than the mainland though - care to prove me wrong?
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 10:43

laugh laugh Who are you trying to kid, yourself. Trust me I've lived in both places a long time.

Your personal attack only reflects yourself.

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
From what I've seen/read/heard about the southern Vic. climate, I have no desire at all to swap with you. shocked Perth or Brisbane - now that would be different. cool

I'm glad that at least you left, because I can't stand moaners. mad For all that, Wellington attracts ever-increasing numbers of tourists despite the wind (which even with a 12% decrease in speeds over the last 2 decades is still pretty considerable), and house prices keep going up. I'd be quite happy if more people left!! smile

If you were living in one of Australia's nicer climate zones, you'd find any part of NZ to be very ordinary. You can't count on the NZ weather here in any season - eg Napier, where last March a cricket test was plagued by 5+ straight days of drizzle and showers.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 10:51

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Well, I have to admit I wasn't here prior to 1980, but then Waiheke can get a fair dollop from the odd tropical N'erly. I will stand by my assertion of much greater sunshine hours than the mainland though - care to prove me wrong?
That's not possible at present - lack of data - but from prior records from a wide range of locations, there's no reason to believe Waiheke would get more than 2100 hrs sun as I stated above, as such would be out of line with data from a large region containing everything north of a line from north Taranaki to southern Coromandel.

So that would count as an improvement, but not enough to tempt me.

But don't get me wrong - it's a very good thing that a lot of people up your way are satifisfied with the climate! It's NZAAS and his like that constitute a threat - people might be influenced by his negativity.

You can continue your argument with NZAAS, I'm sick of it.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 10:53

No, I don't trust you. You were the one making an "attack" - introducing an irrelevant opinion on Wellington's climate when it wasn't even under discussion. I had observed that in my opinion Auckland climate(s) were better than as painted by NZAAS - but not as good as some of the local fans would have it.

Ultimately, I don't give a damn what your opinion is, as you were merely exploiting a chance to voice a hostile view.

To continue your kind of irrelevant diversions one could always interview the large numbers of people who have left Victoria and moved north - personally, I couldn't care less.

In every forum there are always individuals who like to digress in ways that are simply calculated to annoy someone.


Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
laugh laugh Who are you trying to kid, yourself. Trust me I've lived in both places a long time.

Your personal attack only reflects yourself.

by 5+ straight days of drizzle and showers.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 11:19

What is a joke is watching Sky/Prime TV news and see Adelaide 35 Albury 32 Armidale 35 Albury 34 Auckland 15.....Masterton 19 Melbourne 31...Wagga Wagga 29 Wollongong 30 Whyalla 38 Wellington 17 laugh
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 11:23

I will not get in a slanging match with you, I expressed my opinion in a thread that is 24 pages long.

I didn't mean to cause anyone any stress but you seem to be over sensitive regarding wellingtons weather. smile


Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
No, I don't trust you. You were the one making an "attack" - introducing an irrelevant opinion on Wellington's climate when it wasn't even under discussion. I had observed that in my opinion Auckland climate(s) were better than as painted by NZAAS - but not as good as some of the local fans would have it.

Ultimately, I don't give a damn what your opinion is, as you were merely exploiting a chance to voice a hostile view.

To continue your kind of irrelevant diversions one could always interview the large numbers of people who have left Victoria and moved north - personally, I couldn't care less.

In every forum there are always individuals who like to digress in ways that are simply calculated to annoy someone.


Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
[b] laugh laugh Who are you trying to kid, yourself. Trust me I've lived in both places a long time.

Your personal attack only reflects yourself.

by 5+ straight days of drizzle and showers.
[/b]
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 11:25

Just spoke to my brother in Masterton who said it was 13 degress, very cold and icy were his words


Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
What is a joke is watching Sky/Prime TV news and see Adelaide 35 Albury 32 Armidale 35 Albury 34 Auckland 15.....Masterton 19 Melbourne 31...Wagga Wagga 29 Wollongong 30 Whyalla 38 Wellington 17 laugh
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 11:56

The "reality is" that I've been hearing opinions about weather for the 55+ years for which I've been taking an interest in it. Inevitably these views are highly subjective.

I usually have no interest at all in saying anything at all connected to the "comparison"/"mine's better/bigger than yours" kinds of argument that I have heard thousands of times over (almost literally!), but along with rainfan I find NZAAS's contributions annoying, not so much because of his particular slant, but because he simply makes up information to discredit Auckland. He has been slammed on NZ's main forum for doing the same thing.

If you consult any expert climatologist almost any such person will decline to name a "better/best" kind of climate, because reactions to weather types vary so much [and yes, one can find people who like almost any kind of weather you can imagine. While I now live in a fairly sheltered spot here, I once lived on an exposed hill where a neighbour from Bay of Plenty said he preferred the weather here - he didn't like frosts].

The only reason I took issue with "Nev" is simply because of his more or less unequivocal statement that his little bit of greater Auck. had the best NZ weather.

My interests are not in popularity polls/opinions, but in climatological data and its variations in time and space. I despise the likes of the TVNZ's daily "temperature stakes" where almost every local body finds ways to set up "suitable" recording sites that will show their fair city in the "best" possible light.


Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
I will not get in a slanging match with you, I expressed my opinion in a thread that is 24 pages long.

I didn't mean to cause anyone any stress but you seem to be over sensitive regarding wellingtons weather. smile


Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 12:13

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
What is a joke is watching Sky/Prime TV news and see Adelaide 35 Albury 32 Armidale 35 Albury 34 Auckland 15.....Masterton 19 Melbourne 31...Wagga Wagga 29 Wollongong 30 Whyalla 38 Wellington 17 laugh
Great aye? No need for heaters or air conditioning! laugh

i've had one or two chuckles looking at the recent discussions.. laugh

Been blimmin cold, dropped down to 4C overnight while Taupo recorded a frost!!
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 13:23

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
The only reason I took issue with "Nev" is simply because of his more or less unequivocal statement that his little bit of greater Auck. had the best NZ weather.
No, I was referring to the general Auckland region, not Waiheke. What I actually said was
Quote:
Compared to the extremes of a lot of Australian cities, I personally think Auckland has one of the best all-round climates in the world, but don't take my word for it, ask most southerners why they moved to Auckland and the answer is usually 'better climate' (unless of course they ended up in Manurewa).
laugh
This was simply meant as a light hearted rebuff to NZAAS continuous and unjustified slagging of Auckland's climate and I'm sorry that you took it seriously enough to take issue with it. I've lived and worked in many areas around the main Auckland area and do have a fair idea of what it's varying microclimatic conditions are be like. Although NZAAS lives in an extremely remote little pocket of Auckland, and there may be some smidgen of truth amongst NZZA's often exaggerated posts for that area, they are seldom representative of the general Auckland region. One only needs to look at this map of the Greater Auckland Region to see why.

I didn't mean for this discussion to get into a mine is better worse debate. That really comes down to individuals choice. As you say - don't like it, then move. As for Waiheke, yes I do think I have found my own personal little piece of paradise, but for many reasons other than just it's climate.

Otherwise I agree entirely with the rest of your last post.
:cheers:

p.s. Would I be right in assuming that NZAAS gets his figures Australia's 'Sky/Prime TV news'. Might explain a lot.
wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 13:41

Perhaps he does, don't know.

The reason I took you rather literally is that one can find almost any opinion (held seriously)...so understood.

I do totally agree re NZAAS as the continual onslaught is incredibly tedious...
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 15:13

Prime/Sky News (Have that here on my TV) temp. reading are not very accurate - thier readings very rarely correlate with those from BOM and Metservice. As far as Im concerned - thier weather section is a big joke *Rolls Eyes*
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 16:28

Moderate winds from the WSW today and sunny with low 10 to 17

Wellington fine/cloudy periods with fresh cool S and max 14

Christchurch mostly cloudy with strong cold S high 13

Fine and dry most places but unseasonably cold but showers in the east of the north island and very far north
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 17:14

still in the low teens sheesh u sure it is summer over there??
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 17:51

No it ain't really, but don't take that guy's word for it on temps. laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 18:56

About time Mr.Wood experiences some of the "old fashioned weather" that was pre 1980 he rather dislikes such as the drizzly northerlies,cloudy southerlies and we will hear his dislikes of the Wellington climate
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 19:19

True up to a point, but this month has been a little unusual here in that it has simultaneously been very cold but quite a bit sunnier than average so far. On the other hand spring was a foul season, the worst here since at least 1992, possibly much longer. The windiness was in direct contrast to the previous spring - and the record low wind values for 2005.

I'll take the sun as compensation for the cold temps.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 20:33

Quote:
Originally posted by squid:
still in the low teens sheesh u sure it is summer over there??
Just wait until SE Aus gets it's cold spell too.

Quote:
thier weather section is a big joke *Rolls Eyes*
Hear that Mark Hardy? :p laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/12/2006 22:10

Heres yesterdays off the Colongne University site in Germany

Click the Australasian
http://www.meteo.uni-koeln.de/meteo.php?show=En_We_Wk

211206 max. shows 13 Christchurch
14 Wellington
17 Auckland
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/12/2006 01:49

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Just wait until SE Aus gets it's cold spell too.

Yes - goes to show that not only NZ is susceptible to changeable weather, it applies to the S and E of Oz and in rare cases - the southern half of WA (Dec. 2005 for example) smile
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/12/2006 14:50

Cold again with morning rain then SW slowly freshened in the afternoon,Low 10 High 16

Wellington 16c and mostly cloudy but dry Fresh S

Christchurch very cold morning with a little rain but warmed to 13 in the afternoon.

Fine over the southern 1/2 of the South Island,west coast Nelson but showers and or Rain elsewhere and still cold for December
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/12/2006 17:53

Cloudy then Rain in the afternoon,mostly light variable winds 15 to 20

Wellington had some rain with moderate NW high 19

Christchurch fine and warm with NW 25 deg

Rain moved up the north island today with fine weather east of the main ranges Timaru north
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/12/2006 20:55

Our non event summer is continuing with mainly cloudy weather and moderate SW low 13 high 20

Wellington mainly fine with NW and 19

Christchurch fine with NE and 21

Fine in the east of the NI and north of Dunedin in the east with showers later south of Christchurch and showers in the west
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/12/2006 21:20

Yes, cold spell certainly continuing today.. just upto 21C here! Were some hailstorms today about inland Otago.

Trough to stick around until after New Year's holiday, with potentially severe hailstorms in the north and snow to 700m in the south forecast.

Normally by now we've passed the spring -> summer transition.. but it's not happening this year?

Hopefully ECMWF sticks to it's guns with a nice fat sunny high progged right over NZ by the 4th of Jan. laugh
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/12/2006 07:23

i does look like that high will eventauuly park itself over NZ it should give Nz a chance to warm up
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/12/2006 09:51

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Our non event summer is continuing with mainly cloudy weather and moderate SW low 13 high 20...
Actual T-min and T-max for Auckland yesterday...
NZ Herald: 14.8C - 18.8C (6pm-6pm)
Newstalk ZB: 14.5C - 19.5C (12am-12am)
NOAA - Airport: 15C - 18C (12am-12am)
Quote:
Originally posted by squid:
i does look like that high will eventauuly park itself over NZ it should give Nz a chance to warm up
Anticyclones in NZ don't necessarily mean sunny days and light winds though. To quote Erick Brenstrum, "The longer they are nearby, the greater the risk that something may go wrong... Anticyclones often have a full hat of tricks, including overcast skies, drizzle, thunderstorms, flash floods and even gales... The moral is, never turn your back on an anticyclone, even one with a fine track record".
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/12/2006 10:21

that is true for Nz but alot of them bring settled weather in between
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/12/2006 13:54

Today it was 12 to 18 with a fresh SW and 8/8 till 1pm then became sunny but it was compensated by the wind strengthening furthur

Wellington the pick of the bunch with fine weather to partly cloudy later and variable winds,High 18

Christchuch Cold and wintery with some rain,High only 10

Fine on the SI west coast and east cape Wairoa north and Bay of Plenty,Some rain/showers elsewhere
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/12/2006 18:35

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
[b] Our non event summer is continuing with mainly cloudy weather and moderate SW low 13 high 20...
Actual T-min and T-max for Auckland yesterday...
NZ Herald: 14.8C - 18.8C (6pm-6pm)
Newstalk ZB: 14.5C - 19.5C (12am-12am)
NOAA - Airport: 15C - 18C (12am-12am)
Quote:
Originally posted by squid:
i does look like that high will eventauuly park itself over NZ it should give Nz a chance to warm up
Anticyclones in NZ don't necessarily mean sunny days and light winds though. To quote Erick Brenstrum, "The longer they are nearby, the greater the risk that something may go wrong... Anticyclones often have a full hat of tricks, including overcast skies, drizzle, thunderstorms, flash floods and even gales... The moral is, never turn your back on an anticyclone, even one with a fine track record". [/b]
Quite so, but it's about time we gave one a chance ATM laugh

On a more serious note on this subject, one of the best spells of simply settled anticyclonic pleasant sunny weather NZ ever had was from 10-26 January 1957 - no complications, just lovely weather. As a consequence all locations from about Christchurch & Westport northward had record or near-record sunshine. In April 1988 MSLPs were exceptionally high all month and nothing much more untoward than a few areas of drizzle occurred, from memory. cool

Message for NZAAS: chatted to someone who had left Auckland recently - already missing its weather! laugh wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/12/2006 19:07

In real life...

Auckland's average T-max today was about 19, but this morning's average T-min (including the Airport) was about 14, although some parts, particularly to the S, did get much lower. A very wet Pukekohe was still sitting on 9.8C at 6:15am.

Although some areas did recorded higher, Wellington officially only managed 16, then plummeted to just 12 when rain/showers arrived about 3pm. Perhaps RWood could confirm this?

And Christchurch's official T-max was actually 12.

Here on Waiheke we woke to clear blue skies, but this was abruptly interrupted by showers at about 9:30am which lasted for a couple of hours, then back to mostly clear blue skies for the rest of the day.
cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/12/2006 06:43

I think you're correct. However as the wind was absent till late it was actually very pleasant till mid-afternoon, however unusually cool for the season of course.

I'm hoping that the abysmal start to summer that many places have been experiencing will flush out some of the perennial weather-moaners - one can hope for them to leave permanently. These malcontents in life simply shut up when the weather is pleasant but latch onto everything they can find to complain about when it isn't.

It was amusing to see on our NZ forum that a "poster" who was banned early in 2006 tried to make a re-entry under another name. It didn't work. This character was a foul-mouthed whiner from Melbourne (ex-Wellingtonian, please note - I have read and heard reams of complaints about the climate of Melbourne and southern Victoria in my time).
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/01/2007 14:57

Remains VERY COLD over NZ the last couple of days.. just a max of 19 here in Hamilton today after dropping to 6C!
Luckily we had a trough come through yesterday delivering some thunderstorms and the day before about Rotorua with lots of hail there, lol.

Has been very fine and warm about Milford and Haast, so I think they'd be quietly humble with this weather pattern.
Here's a shot of a Cb north of here yesterday.. (click to enlarge)


Overall a mainly wet year for NZ.
Code:
Kaikohe:        1367mm (91%)
Whangarei:      1273mm (90%)
Auckland Ap:    1088mm (99%)
Hamilton:        1216mm (100%)
Tauranga:        1048mm  (87%)
Whakatane:      1206mm (103%)
Rotorua:          1468mm (105%)
Taupo:            1184mm (109%)
New Plymouth:    1148mm (80%)
Gisborne:        1125mm (111%)
Napier:           864mm (106%)
Wellington Ap:   1127mm (127%)
Christchurch Ap: 795mm (126%)
Dunedin Ap:       625mm (91%)
Warming up later this week.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/01/2007 15:57

Here's another ceebee (lightning active) to the southeast of here 20 mins ago.

(clicky)
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/01/2007 10:47

Yes, December was very cold in NZ thanks to a battery of S'erly blasts. All the main centres were 2 to 3 C cooler than normal, with Kelburn in Wellington recording it's coldest Dec for 78 years, while Auckland recorded it's coldest for 44 years - a stark contrast to the previous Dec which was NZ's hottest for 71 years.

The weak El Nino weather pattern typically brings more low pressure systems over New Zealand, with drier weather in the N and wetter conditions in the E and S.

Auckland: 48 mm (56%)
Hamilton: 35 mm (34%)
Wellington: 61 mm (86%)
Christchurch: 115 mm (245%)
Dunedin: 108 mm (146%)

South Island hydro-electric lakes are also looking good thanks frequent rainfall on top of snow melt in Dec.

In contrast, Dec sunshine hours were above normal in all the main centres, particularly in Dunedin.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/01/2007 16:11

Actually, those "cold spans" were even longer - they quoted 1962 and 1928, as that's where the records for the current reporting sites started. The last colder Dec. in W'gton would be in about 1914, not sure about Auckland but it would certainly be no later than 1957 (Decembers there in 1958-1962 were all either warm or near average).

Annual sunshine for all 5 main centres was also above average, particularly in Dunedin where near-record values were recorded. NIWA has a December summary half-constructed now - will post a link when it's complete.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/01/2007 18:24

Fine and sunny everywhere apart from a little cloud on the SI west coast,Today low 12 high 20 and sunny
Wellington 20 fine and sunny light winds
Christchurch fine and warm,light NE 26
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/01/2007 08:15

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Fine and sunny everywhere apart from a little cloud on the SI west coast,Today low 12 high 20 and sunny
Wellington 20 fine and sunny light winds
Christchurch fine and warm,light NE 26
These are the real MetService figures for yesterday as published in the NZ Herald (6pm-6pm)

Auckland: 10.7C - 20.3C
Hamilton: 7.3C - 23.6C
Wellington: 6.3C - 15.9C
Christchurch: 3.3C - 19.7C
Dunedin: 9.5C - 21.1C

I notice you've stopped posting your BS on the NZ wx forum, so why do you persist on posting it here?
Can't understand your motivation NZAAS confused
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/01/2007 11:48

These numbers aren't correct either. Max. to 4pm at W'gton was 17.6C (from Metservice).

Having said that, today here has completely failed to live up to the promise of a reasonable summer day - a cloudy and windy "spoiler". Given the very poor Oct-Dec locally and in some other parts, many of us may end up with one of the memorably poor summer seasons.
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/01/2007 15:05

December 2004 was as cold as December 2006, but then it flipped over to generally fine and warm conditions from the first weekend of January onwards. Unfortunately it didn't happen quite soon enough - on what turned out to be the last wet day of the spell, I slipped on wet pavement while running in Auckland and ended up with a broken arm frown .
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/01/2007 15:26

Still waiting here. What has made it harder to put up with is the large contrast with the previous year.
Posted by: cory

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/01/2007 15:43

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Here's another ceebee (lightning active) to the southeast of here 20 mins ago.

(clicky)
Is the TOWEL the lightning active ceebee???
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/01/2007 06:46

Quote:
NIWA National Climate Centre

Climate Summary for December 2006

* Rainfall: Well below normal in the north of both islands; above normal in the east, especially Canterbury
* Wind: More frequent cold southerlies
* Temperature: One of the coldest Decembers in the last sixty years
* Sunshine: Sunnier than normal in the north of both islands

December was unusually cool for the time of year, due to more frequent southerly winds. Temperatures were 2 to 3 C below normal (making it coldest start to December for many years) throughout New Zealand during the first half of the month, with little change during the last two weeks. For the month, many locations experienced one of their coldest Decembers on record. Wellington recorded its coldest December in more than 70 years, while New Plymouth, Wanganui, and Blenheim had their coldest December in at least 60 years. The national average temperature was 13.7 C (1.9 C below normal), the lowest for December since 13.4 C in 2004 and equal with 1946. Rainfall was less than 50 percent (half) of normal in the north of both islands. However, it was quite wet, with at least 200 percent (twice) of normal rainfall, in some eastern parts of the country, especially in Canterbury. A sunny month occurred in parts of Northland, Auckland, Buller, Westland, and Nelson. More anticyclones ('highs') predominated in the Australian Bight, extending ridges of high pressure into the South Tasman Sea. Mean sea level pressures were below average northeast of the Chatham Islands. As a result, cold southerlies were more frequent than average over New Zealand.

Other Highlights

* The highest temperature during December 2006 was 31.5 C recorded at Blenheim Airport on the 12th.
* The lowest air temperature for the month was -2.5 C recorded at Chateau Ruapehu on the10th.
* High rainfall occurred in Christchurch (74 mm) and over Banks Peninsula on the 20th, and in South Canterbury (with flooding in Ashburton) on the 29th.
* A hailstorm affected Riwaka on 1 December, with slight damage occurring to apples in some orchards.
* A wind gust of 148 km/h from the northwest was recorded at South West Cape on the 7th.
* Auckland was the warmest and driest, Christchurch the wettest, and Wellington the sunniest of the five main centres. Temperatures were well below normal in all five main centres. Rainfall was below normal in Auckland and Hamilton, above normal in Christchurch and Dunedin, and near normal in Wellington. Sunshine hours were above normal in Auckland, and near normal in the other centres.

Rainfall

December rainfall totals were less than 50 percent (half) of normal in parts of Northland, Waikato, Nelson, and central Marlborough. Rainfall was also below normal in much of Auckland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Westland, and Southern Lakes. In contrast, rainfall was about 200 percent (twice) of normal throughout much of Canterbury. Rainfall was also above normal in parts of Gisborne, Hawkes Bay, and East Otago.

Temperature

Mean temperatures were 2.0 to 2.4 C below average in many regions, and more than 2.5 C below average in Taupo and parts of Canterbury. Many locations experienced one of their coldest Decembers on record.

Sunshine

Sunshine hours and/or solar radiation were at least 110 percent of normal in parts of Northland, Auckland, Buller, Westland, and Nelson. Sunshine hours were below normal in Manawatu and on the Kaikoura coast.

Full report

* Full details of the December 2006 Climate Summary

Copyright NIWA Science 2007
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/01/2007 16:01

Cold for January and 8/8 cloud with fresh SW low 12 high 18

Wellington mainly fine with fresh NW high 19

Christchurch variable winds and fine 24

Fine in the east of both islands and BOP and Wellington,some rain in the far south and on the westcoast and cloudy and dry in the west of the NI from Auckland to Manawatu
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/01/2007 19:34

Sounds pretty good NZAAS, just a bit cool
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/01/2007 08:01

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
These numbers aren't correct either. Max. to 4pm at W'gton was 17.6C (from Metservice)...
Yes, those NZ Herald figures for last Thursday appear to correspond the airports, however the Capitol's official Kelburn site would have been a little warmer (as would more central parts of Auckland).

Here's the figures for yesterday and today directly from MetService\'s website .

Saturday Obs to 4pm
Auckland: 15C - 21C
Hamilton: 8C - 22C
Wgtn (Kelburn): 13C - 17C
Christchurch: 8C - 23C
Dunedin: 8C - 20C

Today's Outlook
Auckland: 21C - 12C, Fine, morning cloud. Sea breezes.
Hamilton: 23C - 10C, Fine, mostly sunny. Light winds.
Wgtn (Kelburn): 18C - 13C, Few morning showers clearing. Southerly dying out.
Christchurch: 17C - 13C, Cloud and drizzle, then fine. Northeasterlies later.
Dunedin: 15C - 12C, Morning cloud, then fine. Northeast developing.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/01/2007 08:21

Fair enough - but in fact temps. at the airport depend on seabreezes quite a bit. It is actually 0.8C warmer than Kelburn overall (both mean max and mean min). Of course its windiness negates this to some extent, but sheltered parts of (eg) nearby Seatoun feel significantly warmer than Kelburn. Kelburn is a good proxy for overall W'gton temperatures as a considerable portion of the population live in hill suburbs.

Incidentally, as an example of the arbitrariness of opinion on what makes one climate better than another, I would cite a former IT colleague of mine. He divides his working time in NZ (he has also travelled quite a lot globally) between Wellington and Auckland - lives in the Upper Hutt area, but for the last 5-6 years has spent almost half his working time in Auckland. Only in 2006 did he not prefer to be in Wellington on weather grounds - over the other 5 years he regularly referred to the "Auckland bubble that needed bursting", complaining mainly about the frequency of showers and the persistent windiness, but also about the summer humidity at times.

For myself, I had been well satisfied with things here until the exceptionally poor spring and December came along - but normal service should resume by February, I hope.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/01/2007 20:53

Becoming warm right over Aotearoa today due to an approaching northeasterly low, dewpoints set to rise to about 21C in the coming days north of here.

Quote:
SEVERE WEATHER WATCH FOR NORTHLAND AUCKLAND COROMANDEL PENINSULA BAY
OF PLENTY MT TARANAKI NORTHWEST NELSON
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 2001hrs 08-Jan-2007

HEAVY RAIN POSSIBLE FOR NORTHERN PARTS OF THE NORTH ISLAND AND ALSO
ABOUT NORTHWEST NELSON

MetService is expecting a subtropical low to drag down some warm,
moist air over the North Island and northwestern parts of the South
Island on Tuesday, with rain spreading to most places.

In Northland, rain could be heavy at times from the early hours of
Tuesday through to early afternoon, particularly about the eastern
high ground. Also, later in the afternoon and evening, localised
thundery downpours are possible, these favouring the more northern
and western areas.

About Auckland and Coromandel Peninsula, there are likely to be some
heavy falls from about mid-morning Tuesday through to the evening,
particularly about the ranges of Coromandel and the eastern hills
north of Orewa.

Finally, for Bay of Plenty, Mt Taranaki and also Northwest Nelson,
sporadic heavy falls are likely from Tuesday afternoon through to
late Wednesday afternoon, especially about higher terrain.

There is still uncertainty as to whether rainfalls amounts will reach
warning criteria in these areas. At this stage, Bay of Plenty and
northwest Nelson look most at risk, while the duration of any heavy
falls elsewhere may be too short. People in these areas are advised
to remain up to date with the latest forecasts in case this watch is
upgraded to a full warning.
About time in other words.. wuhooo!! laugh

Today's Tmax: Ashburton - 29C
Min-Tmax: Taupo - 18C
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 08:17

is it happening yet?
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 09:12

Yes, just very light drizzle here on Waiheke this morn (only 3mm so far). Looks like a week of the ex-tropical wet stuff...


04:00 Tuesday 9 January 2007 (NZDT)


07:00 Tuesday 9 January 2007 (NZDT)


10:00 Tuesday 9 January 2007 (NZDT)

MetVUW 2007
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 09:36

looks very good
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 17:00

how much rain are they expecting in the next 24 hours?
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 18:09

been any decent falls?
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 20:00

Heavy showers in the afternoon lasting about an hour,probably about 10mm total all day,

17 to 19 with rain on and off,fresh at times NE
Wellington 20 and Christchurch 22 were both dry and cloudy.Cricket non event in Hamilton because of drizzle where it was 21↑

Drizzley furthur south of Hamilton and dry south island
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 21:36

15mm here so far since 9am with 14.2mm falling in one hour, some torrential downpours are lurking in the unstable environment about Nelson and Bay of Plenty.

Triple fatality on the roads near here this evening too due to the rain. frown

Clearing weather tomorrow, but another subtropical low looks well set to bring more heavy rain and thunderstorms mainly to the North Island as dewpoints creep up to 21C.
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 22:22

Also enough to wash out the NZ-Sri Lanka match in Hamilton.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/01/2007 23:02

15mm also here on Waiheke today of more or less constant drizzle and warmer tonight than during the day.

Yes, MetService have warnings for up to 70mm for the Nelson ranges and Bay of Plenty for tonight and morning. So far about 37mm in Tauranga and about 13mm in Nelson since about noon. There was also some barley measurable drizzle lurking around Wellington and Christchurch this afternoon.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/01/2007 09:15

that is some alright falls
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/01/2007 11:06

Ended up with 19.5mm, then a brief respite of blue skies for a few hours here on Waiheke this morn. NE'ers now turned NW.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to 9am Wednesday

Auckland:
20C - 17C, 10.8mm
Hamilton:
21C - 18C, 15.6mm
Tauranga:
21C - 17C, 44.0mm
Wellington (Kelburn):
18C - 11C, 19.0mm
Nelson:
19C - 14C, 23.8mm
Christchurch:
22C - 12C, 6.8mm
Dunedin:
19C - 11C, 0.0mm
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/01/2007 21:15

Early heavy showers cleared the upper North Island but remained humid and mainly cloudy with areas of showers. Some thunderstorms developed around Hawke's Bay.

Next subtropical low set to drag it more moisture and warmth, GFS is proggging 120mm+ for Tauranga City over the next few days with sultry northeasterlies.

Have nfc who got today's max temp.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/01/2007 08:09

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Have nfc who got today's max temp.
lol, I think that would've been Napier on 29C despite the nearby thunderstorms (South Island only in the mid-teens).

May have been some fog around Auckland Airport this morn. Apart from the humidity, yesterday turned out to be a very pleasant day here on Waiheke (much sunnier than the mainland). Today looks much the same, but that looks to change by late today. North Islanders probably won't get to see the sun again until about Monday. Seem to be stuck in this current wx pattern.
frown
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/01/2007 12:20

It's actually rolled out to a nice sunny late morning and afternoon here - a break in what's been a cool and cloudy month so far.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/01/2007 12:48

Great to have heat again!! laugh
26C/dp 19C getting uncomfortable in the light winds. Widespread heavy rain over the upper North Island for the next week.. LAPS makes it look respectable!
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/01/2007 21:55

Further sultry weather across NZ today with the trough not moving anywhere quickly. Have been heavy falls about Northland this afternoon.
More warmth and rain tomorrow.
21/19 here right now at 11.52pm.. very rarely would we get those figures!
Quite a big deviation in todays temperatures inland and on coastal Otago as seen by the max temperatures...

Tmax: Alexandra - 29C
Min-Tmax: Dunedin, Oamaru, Kaikoura - 13C
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 10:36

N - NE conditions bring warmer temps to NZ, but usually accompained with humidity, cloud and showers. Looking at various people's posts on the NZ weather forum, it seems that people actually prefer a N - NE airflow with cloud and showers against a sou-wester which brings dry and sunny weather, but lower temps.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 10:45

yes they do like the NNE wind that brings in the moisture and more chance or rain /storms the SW wind is very boring most of the time
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 10:52

We get a lot of sou-westers here in Sydney especially around winter - early spring - they bring generally boring conditions - ie clear days, very windy and cold temps. I know which one I would prefer - a NE/N airflow. smile
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 10:54

same up here mate give me moist NE any day
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 11:47

Yes, a few heavy falls in Northland yesterday. Purerua in the 'Bay of Islands' recorded 47mm, giving the 'Bay of Plenty' (Tauranga, Whakatane) some competition in this months rain stakes. Got another 9.3 mm here on Waiheke yesterday - barely measurable today though. Might have been some fog around Wellington this morn.

MetService 24 hour (Airport) Obs to 9am Saturday

Paihia/Russell (Purerua)
22C - 18C, 47.0mm
Auckland
22C - 20C, 7.8mm
Hamilton
23C - 20C, 1.2mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
24C - 13C, 1.2mm
Christchurch
21C - 12C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
16C - 12C, 0.0mm

Hi Rainfan, just in case you haven't already seen it, thought this link posted on another thread might be of interest...
Why does the water get cold in Sydney after a nor\'easter?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 13:24

Min of 20oC in Auckland in NE conditions - that has stopped a certain moaner here smile

Thanks Nev for the PM/link, interesting reading smile

2006 for Auckland had 2189 hrs of sun (109% above normal), 1263mm (102% of normal) and mean temp of 15.1oC (O.2oC below normal.

Invercargill had 1853 hrs of sun - a new record and beating the old one of 1843 hrs set in 1999.

Christchurch had 884mm of rain (135% of normal). Wellington had 1579mm of rain (highest since 1979 which had 1642mm).

Dunedin had its 2nd sunniest year on record with 1960 hrs (123% of normal).
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 15:41

Just an update on the Wellington Fog
Quote:
Fog at Wellington airport affects thousands
Posted at 12:11pm on 13 Jan 2007

More flights are expected to be cancelled at Wellington Airport on Saturday afternoon, as heavy fog keeps the airport closed.

Air New Zealand says it has canceled or diverted 20 flights into and out of Wellington this morning, affecting about 2,500 passengers.

A spokesperson for Air New Zealand says the airline had hoped to resume use of the airport from midday but more cancelations are now likely.

The Metservice says the sea fog which is forcing the suspension of flights is caused by warm moist air over the cooler seas, and is not unusual in the capital at this time of year.

Lead forecaster Andy Downs says northerly winds should help the fog clear towards evening. Mr Downs says the airport's location on the south coast means it will be one of the last places the fog will clear.

Copyright 2006 Radio New Zealand
You're welcome rainfan (TonyT might also be interested). Yes, a few days ago the T-max for Auckland wasn't reached until after 10pm - very sticky night!
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 19:01

Cleared to a warm cloudy afternoon with late rain - heavy showers for a short time, now seems to have stopped again.

While many in NZ are rattling on about a poor season, one can always go back in history to find something more prolonged. The North Island had a 6-year span, 1951-56 - bookended by strong La Ninas - which was overall very cloudy, often unsettled, and culminated in a year described in the Met. summaries as equal warmest, equal wettest and equal cloudiest for the NI. Various rainfall records (eg Auckland's 75.47" at Albert Park) still stand today, as does the rainfall for the island as a whole I think. Most NI places had an exceptionally high number of rain days. There were many flooding incidents in (the second half of) 1955 & 1956, particularly in Northland. 1953 was a coolish year with record low sun at the time from Manawatu to Wellington, and several major floods. The "summer" of 1952-53 was particularly poor in Gisborne & H. Bay. Early 1955 was pleasanter but very humid in the north - Aucklanders would have been sweating a lot (Feb. averaged 22.5C at Albert Park).

Things were much more balanced in the South Island but there were some notable extremes, like the record heat of January 1956 in Central Otago and some other parts of the south.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 20:54

what time did the wellington fog clear?
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 21:38

The fog closed Wgtn airport at about 7pm last night, and the first plane since then touched down just after midday today.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/01/2007 22:40

thats not 2 bad for wellington
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/01/2007 10:46

Blue skies breaking through here on Waiheke atm.

Yes, fog not that unusual for Wellington, particually in summer when warm humid air feeds down from the sub-tropics over relatively cooler seas. Last year, Wellington airport was fog bound for 8 days and in 2005 for a record breaking 19 days. Special landing systems that allow aircraft to touch down in foggy conditions wouldn't work in the capital because of it's hilly terrain. There was also fog in Christchurch this morn, but I don't think flights were affected.

From the (NZ) Herald on Sunday this morn.
Quote:


Photo / Michael Craig

MetService forecaster Janet Syme says: "If we were where the Chatham Islands are now, we would be under the sun for five days."

This month, Kerikeri in the Far North has already had about 110mm of rain, while Te Puke in Bay of Plenty has hit 96mm. Auckland has had 23mm of rain. By contrast, London has seen temperatures of 13C, and Moscow, normally sub-zero in January, was recording 9C.
I see an unofficial AWS on the W coast of the Coromandel Peninsula currently shows 49.6mm recorded during the past 24 hrs, (35.5mm since midnight) making a total of 162.4mm so far this month. Must be this month's unofficial record?

MetService 24 hour (Airport) Obs to 9am Saturday

Auckland
24C - 18C,13.2mm
Hamilton
24C - 19C, 9.8mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
24C - 14C, 19.0mm
Christchurch
17C - 13C, 0.2mm
Dunedin
26C - 14C, 2.4mm

:wave:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/01/2007 11:20

Excellent work Nev with the observations for all 5 main centres - keep it up :cheers:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/01/2007 11:45

Oops, those MetService obs should have read 'to 9am Sunday' (to late to edit).
Thanks rainfan.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/01/2007 12:25

I'm pretty sceptical about that "Chathams Islands sun" notion - blocking highs in that area are far from uncommon, and are no guarantee of sunshine. Thought it has had a few sunny months in its period of records, there have been many dismal ones. Its annual average for all years is only in the region of 1435 hrs, and December 1959 is an example of high pressures bringing dull skies there - only 75 hrs (16% of the possible).
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/01/2007 13:17

I think you may have just confirmed Janet Syme's comment, which was meant to illustrate the irony of NZ's recent conditions, given the Chatham Islands reputation as a normally rather dreary place weather-wise.
Posted by: weather_watcher

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/01/2007 15:32

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
I'm pretty sceptical about that "Chathams Islands sun" notion - blocking highs in that area are far from uncommon, and are no guarantee of sunshine. Thought it has had a few sunny months in its period of records, there have been many dismal ones. Its annual average for all years is only in the region of 1435 hrs, and December 1959 is an example of high pressures bringing dull skies there - only 75 hrs (16% of the possible).
only too true wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/01/2007 10:01

Summer looks like it's starting to kick in here with blue skies yesterday and today. Temps around Auckland yesterday were a couple of degrees warmer than the airport in some places (including my backyard) - very high humidity though! Hastings on the North Island's E coast recorded the country's high of 32.2C.

MetService 24 hour (Airport) Obs to 9am Mon15Jan

Auckland
25C - 17C,0.0mm
Hamilton
26C - 14C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn
20C - 14C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
21C - 11C, 0.2mm
Dunedin
26C - 14C, 0.2mm

cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/01/2007 10:13

Month-to-date sun has been low in many places so far - the incoming high needs to do its stuff, otherwise a number of records may be threatened.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/01/2007 08:20

Yes, sunshine has been particularly low for Wellington during the first 2 weeks of Jan, about 63% of normal, with about 260% of normal rainfall. Auckland's sunshine hours were about 82%, with about 107% of normal rainfall. Christchurch, about 74% of normal sunshine, but also only about 69% of normal rainfall.

More settled conditions during the latter half of Jan may see the month ending with Auckland having normal sunshine and slightly below normal rainfall, Wellington below normal sun and above normal rain, and Christchurch with slightly below normal sun and below normal rain?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/01/2007 08:39

Could well be. It should also be pointed out in this context that with respect to longterm averages for sun, New Plymouth, Wellington, Nelson, Christchurch, Dunedin (only in the last few years) and Invercargill have all generally been above average
since 1992/3. Auckland has not fared so relatively well, but has been doing better in the last couple of years.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/01/2007 11:16

A little more cloud around Auckland than yesterday with a refreshing SW breeze. Some very light drizzle lurking about Christchurch around sunrise. I think Gisborne on the North Island's East Cape recorded the country's high yesterday of 28.5C.

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to 9am Tue16Jan

Auckland
24C - 17C,0.0mm
Hamilton
26C - 16C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
21C - 13C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
27C - 13C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
20C - 11C, 0.0mm

smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 06:36

Looking at the Obs for all 5 main centres - looks like Summer has arrived for NZ - temps quite high compared to what you were getting for Dec. 2006 - would you think they are normal for January ? Maybe the seasons are running later than normal ?

Is it unusual to get 2 cold Decembers within 2 years ? (Am also thinking of Dec. 1945 and 1946 which were colder than usual).

How are the sunshine levels faring ?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 07:31

Yesterday was sunny here and should take us to about 95 in 16, but that still leaves a lot of catching up to be done. Today also looking sunny after overnight low cloud. Some other places have fared a little better. Our recent event was 2 cold Decembers in 3 years (2004 & 2006). As 1945 and 1946 Decembers were both very cold, that was unusual. Dec 1982 was cold and Dec 1983 milder but still down 1C.

Checking, Dec 1944 was also cold. All of those 3 were at least 1.7C down on today's averages.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 07:37

Don't have sunshine figures for Hamilton or Dunedin but they're down so far for the other main centres - still early days though. Also no figure for Ak on the 15th, but probably add about 8-9 hrs. Stratus built up yesterday and heavier today. Need to do some sums for mean temps (RWood may already have them).

Sunshine & Airport Rainfall for Month of Jan to 15th

Auckland
Sunhine: 93.3 hrs (to 14th)
Rainfall: 34.2mm

Hamilton
Sunhine:
Rainfall: 32.4mm

Wgtn (Kelburn)
Sunhine: 81.9 hrs
Rainfall: 75.8mm

Christchurch
Sunhine: 87.6 hrs
Rainfall: 14.2mm

Dunedin
Sunhine:
Rainfall: 14.6mm

EDIT: Beat me to it wink
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 07:50

looks like temps are starying to warm up for ya now at least you can shake thoses ice crystals off ya now and do some sunbaking wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 17:28

I spoke too soon - southerly cloud rolled back in and spoilt a good start.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 19:44

Looking at the daily obs that Nev has put out over the week past - am wondering about Dunedin - is the reading taken at the airport or Musselburgh?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 20:29

It's official - summer's coming
Tuesday January 16, 2007
By Errol Kiong


The MetService is predicting clear skies for much of the country in the coming week as summer finally gets into its stride.

MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt said an anti-cyclone moving on to the country from the Tasman Sea this week and into the middle of next week would bring plenty of sun.

"Extended dry periods with concentrations of sunshine over much of the centre of the country is expected."

A trough over the Bay of Plenty is expected to linger until later today "but apart from that, the forecast is for haymaking weather".

Meanwhile, sunshine figures for the six centres which measure sun hours show Rotorua had the most sun last month and Auckland is leading the pack for this month.

The National Climate Centre's December report found sunshine hours were at least 10 per cent above normal in parts of Northland, Auckland, Buller, Westland and Nelson. Of the five main centres, Auckland was the warmest and driest, Christchurch the wettest and Wellington the sunniest. But temperatures were well below normal in all five centres.


Auckland had the most sun since school holidays began, followed by Gisborne. The sun also favoured Gisborne the most last year. It received about 6 1/2 hours a day.

Top spots

Sunshine hours in the school holidays (Dec 20 - Jan 13):

* Auckland - 169
* Gisborne - 168
* Rotorua - 162
* New Plymouth - 152
* Wellington - 139
* Christchurch - 129

Source: MetService
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 20:31

Quote:

The MetService is predicting clear skies for much of the country in the coming week as summer finally gets into its stride.

MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt said an anti-cyclone moving on to the country from the Tasman Sea this week and into the middle of next week would bring plenty of sun.
Ahhahahahh...... hah. frown

More like plenty of cloud and 21C daytime temps.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 22:05

Hi rainfan

Sorry, should have made that clearer. All temps quoted are from the airports unless otherwise shown in brackets. Temps around Auckland, Wellington and Dunedin can vary by a few degrees due to their topography (and of course the urban heat island effect). Not so much however in flatter areas like Hamilton and Christchurch.

Btw, the article you sited comes from the NZ Herald, not directly from MetService (usually pays to quote the actual source) and NIWA has a lot more than "six centres which measure sun hours" around NZ, so perhaps a little selective.

I also spoke too soon RWood. Stratus broke up enough here today around noon allowing a couple of hours of sun to shine through.

Temps and humidity have gone down today thanks to a more S'erly change. Apparently Auckland and New Plymouth shared the country's high today of about 24C, whereas the day before, Masterton in the lower North Island and Alexandra in central lower South Island (Otago) reached about 29C. A bit cooler in the South Island today though.

Here's this morning's Obs (albeit a little late). frown

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to 9am Wed17Jan

Auckland
23C - 16C,0.0mm
Hamilton
23C - 16C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
23C - 13C, 0.4mm
Christchurch
21C - 12C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
22C - 8C, 0.0mm
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/01/2007 22:38

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:

Ahhahahahh...... hah. frown

More like plenty of cloud and 21C daytime temps.
Agreed, particualary given MetService's penchant for overestimated forecasts of late. wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/01/2007 06:15

Lovely clear morning here, and this time it should last right through, perhaps late high cloud. A lot of sun to be caught up on.
For the period the Herald quoted, most places would have been well down on their usual amount of sun. But as I hinted earlier, this was probably a bit overdue in the medium term.

Re airport sites: Kelburn is a good average for Wellington (day-night). Airport is 0.8C warmer both day and night, as are also some less exposed spots. Ch'ch aero is about 0.6C cooler than the city (Gardens) - 0.3C by day, 0.9C by night. The hill suburbs are cooler than probably either on the eastern flanks, at least by day, probably a little warmer on the western flanks, but haven't seen any data for them.

Dunedin Aero is quite a bit warmer during the day than Musselburgh (harbour level, city), but much cooler at night. Overall Musselburgh has a higher average than the typical part of the city - and also higher than many NIWA sites in Otago and parts of Canterbury, because of its high night minima.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/01/2007 06:29

A bit more on sunshine normals for January - quite a few towns have 30-year averages in the 240s (Tauranga, Rotorua, Whakatane, N Plymouth, Gisborne, Napier, Wanganui, Wellington). Wellington's latest 30-year mean is 249. In the south Tekapo and Cromwell (the latter has a shorter period of record) are in the 250s while only Nelson, Blenheim and Riwaka (near Motueka) get into the 260s, among the NIWA sites.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/01/2007 06:53

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nev:
[QB]

Btw, the article you sited comes from the NZ Herald, not directly from MetService (usually pays to quote the actual source) and NIWA has a lot more than "six centres which measure sun hours" around NZ, so perhaps a little selective.

QUOTE]

Hi Nev - it is from the NZ Herald which I got online, however the source is from Metservice as said at the bottom of the article. smile Do NIWA and Metservice work together ? as I assumed they do.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/01/2007 14:07

Here fresh cool SW with 8/8 in the morning then intermittent sun between the clouds.Temp 14 to 20

Wellington sunny and clear especially after lunch with fresh NW.Temp 21

Christchurch fine and warm with NW 28

Cloudy in the west from manawatu to Auckland and also in the far south,elswhere summer continues
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/01/2007 21:50

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Hi Nev - it is from the NZ Herald which I got online, however the source is from Metservice as said at the bottom of the article. smile Do NIWA and Metservice work together ? as I assumed they do.
Hi rainfan, sorry about the belated reply

Not really. Although they are both government owned companies, MetService's income is derived solely by selling it's forecasting and related services commercially. However amongst it's client's is the NZ government, which pays MetService for a limited amount of information, including severe weather warnings, to be freely accessed by the general public. NIWAs funding on the other hand comes mostly from NZ government research grants, so the results of that research are more accessible to the public because they paid for it. Presumably NIWA would have to pay MetService for any additional information that wasn't already gifted to it when the two companies were formed 15 years ago, and presumably MetService would have to do likewise because it is a commercial company using that data for commercial gain.


Getting back to the NZ Herald article.

Firstly, a quote is not a quote unless the person or publication one is quoting from is also acknowledged, otherwise it becomes completely meaningless (something NZAAS could bear in mind).

Secondly, Although there may be copyright issues when copying and pasting entire articles like this, the copyright holders probably wouldn't normally mind their intellectual property being reproduced on forums like this (bit hard to police anyway) so long as they are at least given the courtesy of being acknowledged as the primary source. In this case, the NZ Herald is the primary source, whereas MetService is only the secondary source.

Thirdly, I suspect the the New Zealand Herald may have presented their data in a selective and slightly misleading way. Their conclusions about the school holiday period were probably based solely on their own published records, which would have originally been purchased from MetService or NIWA, and include only the 5 main centres and 9 other upper North Island locations.


Btw, Auckland airport, along with most other Akld areas, reached 23C today (some even higher).

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amThu18Jan

Auckland
22C - 16C,0.0mm
Hamilton
23C - 10C, 0.8mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
16C - 8C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
15C - 4C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
23C - 15C, 0.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amFri19Jan

Auckland
23C - 15C,0.0mm
Hamilton
24C - 8C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 13C, 0.2mm
Christchurch
20C - 8C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
20C - 9C, 0.0mm

:cheers:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 06:14

whose right or wrong/what temperatures are arbitory?
herald shows ak as 23 same as met service hamilton 22.4,wellington 21.8 chch 28.6 dunedin 20.0.theyre never the same from wherever site the sensors are and because it was so windy my thermometer only reached 20 though much warmer inside.
TVNZ says (tv3 doesnt show temperatures now) 24 ak,wellington 22 and chch 29
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 06:45

Nev - note re NIWA and public funding: it is still very expensive to get data from them - I'm in a very good position to know, as I get the monthly Climate Digest plus data for various adhoc requests - though the latter have benen treated much more kindly of late. "Normals" stats. are damned expensive however.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 08:32

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
whose right or wrong/what temperatures are arbitory?
herald shows ak as 23 same as met service hamilton 22.4,wellington 21.8 chch 28.6 dunedin 20.0.theyre never the same from wherever site the sensors are and because it was so windy my thermometer only reached 20 though much warmer inside.
TVNZ says (tv3 doesnt show temperatures now) 24 ak,wellington 22 and chch 29
Well, there's your problem NZAAS - how can you expect an accurate temp reading if your thermometer is exposed to the wind? Btw, yesterday your local AWS recorded a T-min of 11.2C and T-max of 22.8C (one of the lower recordings around Ak). I agree about the temps touted by local media. The NZ Herald and TVNZ should say exactly where in Auckland their temps were recorded for them to have any value (I suspect the latter uses city temps). That's why I quote MetService's 'official temps' which are usually sourced from local airports for obvious reasons. The rest can then be used as a comparison.
Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Nev - note re NIWA and public funding: it is still very expensive to get data from them - I'm in a very good position to know, as I get the monthly Climate Digest plus data for various adhoc requests - though the latter have benen treated much more kindly of late. "Normals" stats. are damned expensive however.
Thanks RWood. Interesting, although I can understand NIWA charging a fee if that info was to be used for some gain. However if the public has already paid for that research, then I think they should have a right to access it freely. Should also be noted that NIWA has many private clients that also commission research - now that's a different story.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 09:18

Cheers Nev smile . I do understand that the media has a tendancy to "over-exaggerate" or to put it bluntly "twist" facts whenever it suits them (headlines = money), makes me mad at times as the info that they put in papers tends to be very different from the offical data obtained from a weather office. I have applied to work in BOM (admin), however much to my surprise - I would have to move to Melbourne as the admin department is located in Melb - to which I said no as I dont wish to live in Melbourne again (as I lived there for 4 years), for me to work at BOM's office in Sydney - I would have to go to universty for 4 years and get a degree in Maths and Physics (the debt is the only thing thats putting me off as I have heard many horror stories of students going to universty and end up owing $30,000 in debts to the goverment).

I can understand Rwood and yours (Nev) points about NIWA - they do charge a hefty fee for exracting data whereas BOM only charges a small fee (I went to BOM's office in Brisbane 2 weeks ago and got all the data dating from 1840 - sunshine, temps, rainfall, raindays etc) all for only $17.00.If you want to subscribe for a year to get MCD - it costs about $200.00 a year (speaking in Oz currency) to which I think is expensive even by Oz standards.

Otherwise keep up the great work Nev - great to have you putting out the temps for the previous day - you dont "exaggerate" the temps like some people !


:cheers:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 10:03

Cheers rainfan

Mostly cloudy in all the main centres today. Rain just arrived in Christchurch and also in Dunedin. Sharp contrast to yesterdays 29C in Christchurch, not to mention the 4C on Thurs morn, brrrrrr!

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amSat20Jan

Auckland
23C - 17C,0.0mm
Hamilton
22C - 10C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
20C - 14C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
29C - 14C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
20C - 12C, 0.0mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 10:17

We are certainly in a "sun deficit" in some parts.
Last January W'gton had 278 hrs - so far this month we have 118 hrs in 19 days.

Unforecast showers in Ch'ch I gather.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 10:23

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Nev - note re NIWA and public funding: it is still very expensive to get data from them - I'm in a very good position to know, as I get the monthly Climate Digest plus data for various adhoc requests - though the latter have benen treated much more kindly of late. "Normals" stats. are damned expensive however.
Thanks RWood. Interesting, although I can understand NIWA charging a fee if that info was to be used for some gain. However if the public has already paid for that research, then I think they should have a right to access it freely. Should also be noted that NIWA has many private clients that also commission research - now that's a different story. [/QB]
I'm glad that I collected a lot of the data of interest to me in the free or "relatively free" days. In the former case it was from Govt. publications in libraries, principally the periodical "Meteorological Observations". For some sites I re-obtained data from NIWA as a double-check and have found the data from Met. Obs. agreed with their modern electronic archive almost 100%.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 10:38

Sounds like January has been quite cloudy over most of NZ so far. December was quite sunny over much of NZ. Here in Sydney - 171 hrs so far (temps havent been that hot though). Invercargill 130 hrs so far.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 10:49

It will be a pity if you don't get into BOM, rainfan - getting a career doing something of genuine interest to you would be very rewarding. I rather wish I'd done that, but for personal reasons I took what seemed to be an easy option at the time, and had years of boredom and nonmotivation in which to wonder what might have been... :rolleyes:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/01/2007 19:08

Cloudy with WSW today but not as bad as yesterdays winds,low 15 high 21

Wellington PC and 20 with a NWer

Christchurch rain today and 16
High was Gisborne 30

Drizzle in most western areas but dry in the east from Tauranga to Wairapa and Nelson
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/01/2007 14:20

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Sounds like January has been quite cloudy over most of NZ so far. December was quite sunny over much of NZ. Here in Sydney - 171 hrs so far (temps havent been that hot though). Invercargill 130 hrs so far.
Yes, Auckland's Sunshine is only slightly below normal though - about the same as Invercargill so far, but Invercargill does have the advantage of about 1 more hour of daylight atm (close to 16 hours at solstice).

Pleasant day in Auckland today - just partly cloudy with fresh WSW'ers

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amSun21Jan

Auckland
22C - 17C,0.4mm
Hamilton
21C - 15C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 15C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
19C - 12C, 2.4mm
Dunedin
22C - 13C, 6.0mm

smile
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/01/2007 14:48

Horrible SW today and cloudiness negates the sun because of the Wind howling,Dry however Temp 15 to 21

Wellington PC becoming cloudier as the day wore on with fresh NW,High 21☻

Christchurch cloudy and cool with 19 and a fresh SSW

Cloudy everywhere with drizzle in the west south of the Wiakato except the east coast of the NI where the NW kept it nice and sunny and warmer
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/01/2007 16:19

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Sounds like January has been quite cloudy over most of NZ so far. December was quite sunny over much of NZ. Here in Sydney - 171 hrs so far (temps havent been that hot though). Invercargill 130 hrs so far.
Yes, Auckland's Sunshine is only slightly below normal though - about the same as Invercargill so far, but Invercargill does have the advantage of about 1 more hour of daylight atm (close to 16 hours at solstice).

Pleasant day in Auckland today - just partly cloudy with fresh WSW'ers

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to 9am Sun 21 Jan

Auckland
22C - 17C, 0.4 mm
Hamilton
21C - 15C, 0.0 mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 15C, 0.0 mm
Christchurch
19C - 12C, 2.4 mm
Dunedin
22C - 13C, 6.0 mm

smile [/b]
Mostly dull here today, near-record low for January may be threatened now. The same will apply to Kapiti, Horowhenua and Manawatu. I am still a bit doubtful about the In'gill readings and will wait and see what the EWS there reports for the month.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/01/2007 16:39

Nev - would you mind including the Invercargill daily readings as well (My brother lives there), if its not too much trouble for you ? Thanks smile
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/01/2007 06:40

Hi rainfan, I'm not sure if I'll have the time (or inclination) to post these readings everyday. It's just that I get sick of reading NZAAS's howlers. However, you should be able to check yourself simply by clicking on my Header and selecting the town of your choice.

Here's yesterday mornings's MetService Ob's for Invercargill Airport:

Invercargill
20C - 12C, 6.6mm
(Month to date Rainfall: 41.6mm)

wink
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/01/2007 06:52

Ok Nev - no worries. Dont let some idiot put you off posting information on this thread - I know who I believe smile .
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/01/2007 08:14

Sun is making a valiant effort at the moment - Anniversary Monday has usually been fine in my recollection of recent years.

A bit hard to assert that W'gton topped NZ's January sun in 1965, 1984 and 1985... :rolleyes: eek
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/01/2007 18:23

Weather a little better with 8/8 until lunch then clear and sunny but now 8/8 again,Moderate WSW TEMP 17 to 23 which went from 20 at midday when the sun finally shone without a horrible wind

Wellington 22 fine am but very cloudy with drizzle late afternoon,NW strong then
Christchurch lovely fine and warm that we never get with 31
Dunedin 29and fine
Gales in far south and cloud increased there and after cloud cleared it was fine in most places and warm in the east
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/01/2007 18:30

it will probably remain a WSW week this week.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/01/2007 07:16

NZ Herald reports 33.5C in Napier yesterday. Wellington's Mt Kaukau showed at least 72 km/h N'erlys according to the 4pm obs.

Very sunny here on Waiheke yesterday, 26.8C in my backyard. Looks like today may be even hotter.
cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/01/2007 17:53

Travelled to Napier today. Lovely summer day, and in the Wairarapa, unlike the drizzly scunge afflicting W'gton, Kapiti, Horowhenua, Manawatu and areas east of the gorge. Little doubt that W'gton will be seriously challenging its all-time January sunshine low record (city sites go back to 1907, so this is the 101st year of record!!). Napier temp again in low 30s I think.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/01/2007 19:51

That would be 175.5 hrs in 1966 ? What is the total so far now ?
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/01/2007 19:55

Today it was seasonal finally with fine and sunny weather with 26! and the wind had changed from its usual locked direction to a westerly,hopefully the SW will stay away but as we know that wont happen

Wellington 21 and light N with low cloud
Christchurch 23 pc and a variable winds
Napier high on 33 and a NW
drizzle in SW districts of the NI to about Waikato and some cloudy periods in the SI but dry
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/01/2007 21:39

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
That would be 175.5 hrs in 1966 ? What is the total so far now ?
That's the Kelburn record (1928+) - an older site had 170 in 1923 - and you can see from my graphs that 4 very low totals were recorded in 5 years around 1919-1923 from memory!

129.2 in 22 days but today stayed overcast I presume. We'll see...
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/01/2007 11:40

Auckland''s sunshine also looks as though it will be well down in Auckland going by GFS for the rest of Jan, with a few days of drizzle forecast from Friday.

Very sticky here on Waiheke last night - only got down to 20.0C after 27.2C yesterday. Going on 26C atm with thin stratus today.

Here's the obs for the last few days for those interested...

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amMon22Jan

Auckland
23C - 18C,0.0mm
Hamilton
24C - 17C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
20C - 16C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
21C - 14C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
18C - 12C, 3.2mm
Invercargill
20C - 12C, 7.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amTue23Jan

Auckland
24C - 18C,0.0mm
Hamilton
25C - 16C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
N/A
Christchurch
31C - 15C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
29C - 13C, 0.2mm
Invercargill
26C - 12C, 9.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amWed24Jan

Auckland
25C - 19C,0.0mm
Hamilton
25C - 19C,0.4mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
20C - 11C, 0.8mm
Christchurch
21C - 14C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
19C - 7C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
18C - 12C, 0.0mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/01/2007 12:19

Not so good now - must be the curse travelling with me. frown Overcast and mild in Napier today, promised clearance hasn't occurred yet. Certainly won't reach 27C.

Greatly enjoyed yesterday's 33C - stopped at a place near Otane, hot dry ground to contrast with shade. Such a change to feel summery. cool

Rainfan, if you're sick of Australian sun you shouldn't live there!!! I have seen enough low cloud and drizzle to last me several lifetimes. mad

Wellington has 131.6 hrs in 23 days. Record still threatened.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/01/2007 12:43

I wonder why its been so cloudy over NZ - is it because of persistant N-NW airflows? Not a SWer for sure as they would bring much sunshine to most of NZ with much lower temps, at least temps havent been as cold as Dec. 2006, so that should be some compensation.

Speaking of the Oz sun - a really lovely overcast day today with periods of rain over the Sydney Basin especially this morning with some great falls in some areas - most of us are very pleased and happy with this somewhat "rare" spell of wet and overcast weather, also a S change has come thru, so hopefully that will set off more rains for us. laugh cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/01/2007 12:49

It ain't that simple - Dec 1990 in a developing El Nino had a lot NW/W airflow (not quite so much N). It was warm and windy and very sunny in the east, sunny elsewhere except W of S Island.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/01/2007 07:20

Lovely hot sun back in Napier after a cloudy day yesterday! cool
Posted by: norfolk

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/01/2007 22:13

hello NZers....I have friends going to your lovely country next week, spending time on the South island, Christchurch, Kaikoura, Hokitika, Queenstown, Wanaka, Te Anau, the fiords and glaciers.

While it is easy to find forecasts for most places, my friends can't seem to find forecasts for Te Anau. They know the area isnt populated as much as the other cities but does anyone know where one may find accurate weather forecasts for the Te Anau area? any help would be appreciated.

Tony
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 06:10

Quote:
Originally posted by norfolk:
...does anyone know where one may find accurate weather forecasts for the Te Anau area? any help would be appreciated.
Hi Tony - don't think there's any such thing as an 'accurate weather forecast for the Te Anau area'. Fiordland has very unpredictable weather and very high rainfall - you could get all 4 seasons in one day, so prepare for anything and take plenty of insect repellent for the sandflies.

However, you could try the MetService's brief Mountain Forecast
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=fiordlandmtn

And coastal wind direction and strength to the SW & NW
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=puysegurcoastal
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=milfordcoastal

Also might be worth checking conditions in Invercargill
http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=invercargill

:cheers:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 06:33

Quote:
Originally posted by norfolk:
hello NZers....I have friends going to your lovely country next week, spending time on the South island, Christchurch, Kaikoura, Hokitika, Queenstown, Wanaka, Te Anau, the fiords and glaciers.

While it is easy to find forecasts for most places, my friends can't seem to find forecasts for Te Anau. They know the area isnt populated as much as the other cities but does anyone know where one may find accurate weather forecasts for the Te Anau area? any help would be appreciated.

Tony
Tricky - Te Anau is in fringe zone between the Southland hinterland and Fiordland proper. Listen to Fiordland forecasts with any references to "the lakes".
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 11:18

I suspect yesterday may have been the warmest day in Auckland so far this summer, at least in some parts where the odd private AWS recored temps exceeding 28C (including here). Rather surprising considering the variety and amount of cloud around. Different story today though - overcast with the occasional very light drizzle so far.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amThu25Jan

Auckland
26C - 19C,0.0mm
Hamilton
24C - 19C,0.2mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
21C - 16C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
18C - 8C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
23C - 11C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
18C - 11C, 2.2mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amFri26Jan

Auckland
26C - 18C,0.0mm
Hamilton
27C - 17C,5.6mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
N/A
Christchurch
18C - 13C, 3.0mm
Dunedin
15C - 9C, 6.6mm
Invercargill
16C - 9C, 0.0mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 16:04

Hit 32C in Napier y'day on a sultry day. Heavy rain this morning on Napier-Taupo drive, better afternoon for Taupo-Rotorua.

janewaystv: Kelburn 143 hrs sun to 25th. Probably won't beat the record low of 175.5. This bizarre January locally has some things in common with January 1942, but doesn't really match any in the record that I can think of.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 16:51

Auckland recorded higher max temps than Sydney for yesterday and Wednesday - minimum temps almost the same. Hear thats its been quite humid in Auckland this week.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 16:54

Not happy chappies though - they aren't seeing enough sun, like most of us.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 17:49

Im sure most of them prefer the humidity (which brings warmer temps) than a SWer judging by the numerous complaints of last months weather when it was very sunny/dry, but with well below average temps. Auckland and Hamilton seems to be doing well temp -wise. Auckland's rainfall total so far this month is 34.6mm. Invercargill's sunshine total so far is 150 hrs. Wellington does seem to be having a run of bad weather (starting in October 2006) especially where rainfall/temperatures are concerned.
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/01/2007 22:14

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Im sure most of them prefer the humidity (which brings warmer temps) than a SWer judging by the numerous complaints of last months weather when it was very sunny/dry, but with well below average temps. Auckland and Hamilton seems to be doing well temp -wise. Auckland's rainfall total so far this month is 34.6mm. Invercargill's sunshine total so far is 150 hrs. Wellington does seem to be having a run of bad weather (starting in October 2006) especially where rainfall/temperatures are concerned.
Not unusual for Wellingon though, I lived there for years and the terrible weather is normal.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 07:30

Desertdust, your comments are stupid and inaccurate. The period rainfan accurately commented on has been exceptionally poor in Wellington, and I know its data inside out. October would be the among the worst 3 in 80 years, November was exceptionally windy, December exceptionally cold, and January much cloudier than usual.

And in case you think that this has been going on typically of late, using a weighted average of temp, rainfall and sunshine with an extra for wind, Wellington's best 3 years of weather were 2005, 2003 and 1999. 2005 had the lowest average windspeeds of any year since 1971 at least. My tracking system based on such things would have W'gton's best 8 or so years all occurring since 1985+.

To revert to weather this season, even although it's been warm this month in Hawkes Bay, locals have noticed the reduction in sunshine.

To conclude, Desertdust, I've listened to stupid, subjective and inaccurate comments on weather all my life, and you're just another tick in that box.
Comments like yours add absolutely nothing to the sum of human knowledge.

For a taste of your own subjectivity - I have heard/read many derogatory comments about the climates around Melbourne and southern Vic. - after staying there for a few days in Oct 2001 after a Perth holiday, it seemed damp, dark, and dismal by comparison. I wonder why so many Victorians have left for Queensland?!?!?!
laugh laugh laugh shocked :rolleyes:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 07:39

Desertdust - I am not having a dig at Wellington's weather - I was just merely pointing out the run of bad weather in Wellington's case, Wellington has been having a run of good weather in previous years - ie very sunny and dry. I could always interview the 30,000 + of Victorians who move to QLD per annum. Geelong I must say isnt exactly paradise climate - wise, I have gone down there in mid summer and ended up wearing jeans and a jumper in the middle of january (summer) and some nights the temps have dropped below 10 degrees.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 08:22

According to the BOM site data Geelong has about 37.5 clear days per year - that's a fairly low number.

I've often quoted examples of subjectivity, like an aunt of mine who lived in 5 or 6 towns around NZ, including Alexandra and spots well north of W'gton - and preferred W'gton's climate to all of the others.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 09:00

Hehe, you're obviously very passionate about Wellington RWood wink

Curious to know whereabouts in Wellington you lived desertdust? It's just that it's all relative to one's perspective. Wellington (like Auckland), has varying areas and degrees of climate. It's bit like someone here that lives in, what appears to be, the most gust-prone part of Auckland, then postulates about how windy the rest of Auckland must be. However, if you're into windsurfing then Wellington's the place to be. Perhaps a little cooler than Auckland, but they do normally have about the same sunshine hours and less rainfall.

Rainfan, personally, I'll take a refreshing Auckland SW'er any day during the summer over humid sticky N'erlies, unless of course I was into storm-chasing, but that can be a bit restrictive when one lives on an island.
laugh
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 10:22

Mostly stratocumulus with some towering cumulus around Auckland today. Mostly cloudy with light rain/showers around Wellington and mostly cloudy with light rain in Christchurch.

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amSat27Jan

Auckland
24C - 18C,0.0mm
Hamilton
24C - 14C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
21C - 13C, 8.6mm
Christchurch
16C - 11C, 4.8mm
Dunedin
18C - 8C, 0.2mm
Invercargill
17C - 6C, 0.0mm
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 14:01

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Hehe, you're obviously very passionate about Wellington RWood wink

Curious to know whereabouts in Wellington you lived desertdust? It's just that it's all relative to one's perspective. Wellington (like Auckland), has varying areas and degrees of climate. It's bit like someone here that lives in, what appears to be, the most gust-prone part of Auckland, then postulates about how windy the rest of Auckland must be. However, if you're into windsurfing then Wellington's the place to be. Perhaps a little cooler than Auckland, but they do normally have about the same sunshine hours and less rainfall.

Rainfan, personally, I'll take a refreshing Auckland SW'er any day during the summer over humid sticky N'erlies, unless of course I was into storm-chasing, but that can be a bit restrictive when one lives on an island.
laugh
I'm with you Nev, I'd take a cool SW'er anytime over a stinkin hot north wind.

I lived in a number of suburbs both in Wellington and the the Hutt Valley, even had a couple of years in Wainuiomata, boy some good frosts there.

I don't know why these other chaps get so jumpy they must feel under attack to respond like that. Personally I'd rather live in a terrible climate than some sun drenched hot hell hole, I'm not a lover of the sun or heat at all, my worst days here are over 30. The wind in Wellington and the southerly busters is something I don't miss though.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 14:11

Well lucky for you Geelong doesnt get many days over 30oC.
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 14:24

No luck involved rainfan, I can live where ever I want.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 14:33

Even on a cool wet day a NE'er is refreshing compared to the screaming SW but today is just perfect 25 and little wind
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 14:44

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Hehe, you're obviously very passionate about Wellington RWood wink

Curious to know whereabouts in Wellington you lived desertdust? It's just that it's all relative to one's perspective. Wellington (like Auckland), has varying areas and degrees of climate. It's bit like someone here that lives in, what appears to be, the most gust-prone part of Auckland, then postulates about how windy the rest of Auckland must be. However, if you're into windsurfing then Wellington's the place to be. Perhaps a little cooler than Auckland, but they do normally have about the same sunshine hours and less rainfall.

Rainfan, personally, I'll take a refreshing Auckland SW'er any day during the summer over humid sticky N'erlies, unless of course I was into storm-chasing, but that can be a bit restrictive when one lives on an island.
laugh
Nev, I have lived in about 6 parts of greater W'gton and the degree of perceived heat certainly varies with exposure. I currently live in a street that gets no southerly, just some of the gusty northerly.

Incidentally, the 30-year average sunshine for W'gton is now 2090 hrs. That has been increasing steadily for some time now and even the bad start to 2007 may not halt that - 1998 and 2000 started poorly and ended well. Auckland sites have barely managed around 2030 in the last couple of decades, though it may be on the upswing now.

It can also be (re-) noted that on an number of occassions Wellington has topped the national sunshine for a month.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 14:47

Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
[b] Hehe, you're obviously very passionate about Wellington RWood wink

Curious to know whereabouts in Wellington you lived desertdust? It's just that it's all relative to one's perspective. Wellington (like Auckland), has varying areas and degrees of climate. It's bit like someone here that lives in, what appears to be, the most gust-prone part of Auckland, then postulates about how windy the rest of Auckland must be. However, if you're into windsurfing then Wellington's the place to be. Perhaps a little cooler than Auckland, but they do normally have about the same sunshine hours and less rainfall.

Rainfan, personally, I'll take a refreshing Auckland SW'er any day during the summer over humid sticky N'erlies, unless of course I was into storm-chasing, but that can be a bit restrictive when one lives on an island.
laugh
I'm with you Nev, I'd take a cool SW'er anytime over a stinkin hot north wind.

I lived in a number of suburbs both in Wellington and the the Hutt Valley, even had a couple of years in Wainuiomata, boy some good frosts there.

I don't know why these other chaps get so jumpy they must feel under attack to respond like that. Personally I'd rather live in a terrible climate than some sun drenched hot hell hole, I'm not a lover of the sun or heat at all, my worst days here are over 30. The wind in Wellington and the southerly busters is something I don't miss though. [/b]
A general check on sunshine in southern Victoria would indicate it is no higher than Wellington, could be a little lower.

Wainuiomata and the Hutt Valley are wetter and cloudier than Wellington City.

I repeat: I don't accept your subjective assessment of Wellington's climate(s) at all. In my opinion there are much worse things than windiness. I loathed the spells of dull, cloudy, often quite calmish weather I used to experience in the south - Dundedin and In'gill mainly.

I hate foul polluted air and have not been impressed by what I've seen round Melbourne in that respect, let alone the UK & Europe!
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 15:06

Dull cloudy weather doesn't concern me in fact I find it quite ideal for me but wind and wind driven rain both very common in Wellington is something I don't need. If it doesn't bother you that's great.

Polution, I agree not ideal anywhere, very little around here.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 15:14

Fine - you've just confirmed that in my subjectivity I wouldn't want to live in the climate you enjoy. Perth sunshine would be a very different matter.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 15:15

Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
No luck involved rainfan, I can live where ever I want.
Ok fair enough, although if I came from NZ, I would look to live in a place with a better climate - ie Sydney or Brisbane. Really beats me why a Kiwi would move to Geelong of all places - after all southern Vic. isnt exactly well known for its benign climate.
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 15:28

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
[b] No luck involved rainfan, I can live where ever I want.
Ok fair enough, although if I came from NZ, I would look to live in a place with a better climate - ie Sydney or Brisbane. Really beats me why a Kiwi would move to Geelong of all places - after all southern Vic. isnt exactly well known for its benign climate. [/b]
My previous home before Geelong was Bundaberg, before that Brisbane and have travelled the country.

Not sure where to next but the southern climate suits me.

Edit: The Southern climate isn't really as bad as it's made out to be, the rest of Australia sets a very high standard.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 15:31

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
[b] No luck involved rainfan, I can live where ever I want.
Ok fair enough, although if I came from NZ, I would look to live in a place with a better climate - ie Sydney or Brisbane. Really beats me why a Kiwi would move to Geelong of all places - after all southern Vic. isnt exactly well known for its benign climate. [/b]
Precisely. Because of my preferences, I couldn't work for a year in say Scotland or Ireland for a million pounds - the grey skies would just be too depressing. Interesting that in a "poll" on a UK site on the least favourite kind of weather, "anticyclonic gloom" scored quite heavily.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/01/2007 15:40

Today in Rotorua area: sunny morning with cloud buildups, partly cloudy afternoon, clouds have produced little or no precip. so far.

rainfan: W'gton MTD sun (to 26th): 146.7 hrs. My guess for month total now would be about 182.

In December on about the 22nd local reporters doing the "it's been a very cold month so far" story said it had been cloudy - they were wrong of course, and I sent a note to MetService to see if they had been misquoted, suggesting that the monthly total would be about 240. It was 240.6.

A lucky pick, but at least the ignorance of the reporters who parrot stuff and understand nothing was clear.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/01/2007 10:34

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:

...Incidentally, the 30-year average sunshine for W'gton is now 2090 hrs. That has been increasing steadily for some time now and even the bad start to 2007 may not halt that - 1998 and 2000 started poorly and ended well. Auckland sites have barely managed around 2030 in the last couple of decades, though it may be on the upswing now.
Hmm, NIWA's 2006 report indicates the average to be only 2056 sunshine hours for Wellington and 2085 for Auckland. The NZ Herald is slightly different again, quoting NIWA for Auckland and presumably MetService for Wellington (probably the airport though) with 2065 hrs for Wellington and 2067 hrs for Auckland. Go figure!
Quote:
It can also be (re-) noted that on an number of occassions Wellington has topped the national sunshine for a month.
So has Auckland :p
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/01/2007 10:39

Yesterday's Auckland cloud broke up considerably in the afternoon and mostly clear blue skies today, but that looks likely to change from tonight with a front already moving onto the SW of the South Island.

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amSun28Jan

Auckland
25C - 19C,0.0mm
Hamilton
26C - 16C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
17C - 13C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
18C - 12C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
21C - 11C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
23C - 12C, 0.0mm

cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/01/2007 17:53

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:

[b] ...Incidentally, the 30-year average sunshine for W'gton is now 2090 hrs. That has been increasing steadily for some time now and even the bad start to 2007 may not halt that - 1998 and 2000 started poorly and ended well. Auckland sites have barely managed around 2030 in the last couple of decades, though it may be on the upswing now.
Hmm, NIWA's 2006 report indicates the average to be only 2056 sunshine hours for Wellington and 2085 for Auckland. The NZ Herald is slightly different again, quoting NIWA for Auckland and presumably MetService for Wellington (probably the airport though) with 2065 hrs for Wellington and 2067 hrs for Auckland. Go figure!


Quote:
It can also be (re-) noted that on an number of occasions Wellington has topped the national sunshine for a month.
So has Auckland :p [/b]
Not as often as Wellington!

The 2056 is a typo. It's 2065 for the period 1971-2000. I am talking about the latest
30-year average, ie 1977-2006.

Neither the 2085 or 2067 is correct for any current Auckland site!! The latest 1971-2000 values for Auckland sites are 2044 for City (closed in earlyish 1990s), 2015 for Mangere (open and current) and 2065 for Aero (closed about 1990).
Wellington Aero has no present or past sun data.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/01/2007 19:17

PS Nev: The 2067 is the Auckland City mean for 1951-1980! The newspapers and the 2 services don't get the data outputted very well. It is NIWA's responsibility to provide the averages, at least to calculate them and provide them to requestors at a cost. In the case of Auckland the variety of sites used on various timescales adds to the confusion. It should be noted that the averages for 1941-1970 and 1935-1960 for Auckland sites were higher than later decadal averages. However as I commented earlier, it appears that for the only current site (Mangere) the reducing tendency may now be reversing.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 06:57

Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
[b] No luck involved rainfan, I can live where ever I want.
Ok fair enough, although if I came from NZ, I would look to live in a place with a better climate - ie Sydney or Brisbane. Really beats me why a Kiwi would move to Geelong of all places - after all southern Vic. isnt exactly well known for its benign climate. [/b]
My previous home before Geelong was Bundaberg, before that Brisbane and have travelled the country.

Not sure where to next but the southern climate suits me.

Edit: The Southern climate isn't really as bad as it's made out to be, the rest of Australia sets a very high standard. [/b]
Well, southern Vic. does have a poor climate compared to the rest of mainland Oz - Melbourne does have the dubious honour of being the cloudiest state capital city as well as having the lowest mean temps especially during autumn/winter/spring. You would feel right at home especially living in a place like Geelong.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 07:51

PPS Nev: I retract the claim about the number of times Auckland and W'gton have topped the monthly sunshine values - Auckland is definitely ahead [though it doesn't seem to have done that since the mid-80s when the Auckland Aero site was recording that data]. The most recent W'gton cases appear to be 7/2000, 1/1985 and 1/1984.
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 08:51

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by desertdust:
No luck involved rainfan, I can live where ever I want.
Ok fair enough, although if I came from NZ, I would look to live in a place with a better climate - ie Sydney or Brisbane. Really beats me why a Kiwi would move to Geelong of all places - after all southern Vic. isnt exactly well known for its benign climate. [/b]
My previous home before Geelong was Bundaberg, before that Brisbane and have travelled the country.

Not sure where to next but the southern climate suits me.

Edit: The Southern climate isn't really as bad as it's made out to be, the rest of Australia sets a very high standard. [/b]
Well, southern Vic. does have a poor climate compared to the rest of mainland Oz - Melbourne does have the dubious honour of being the cloudiest state capital city as well as having the lowest mean temps especially during autumn/winter/spring. You would feel right at home especially living in a place like Geelong.
What's your point here rainfan, you bounce all over the place. I live where I want, do you think I should live elsewhere ? you've lost me.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 09:05

Just pointing out the cold hard facts of the climate in Southern Vic.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 09:25

I suggest his main implied point is that your highly subjective slagging-off of Wellington contributes nothing useful to any forum. Because of the range of human preferences, there is no "ideal" climate, and no consensus on what constitutes such a thing.

My take on some of what lies behind at least some people's reaction to weather:

(1) The definition of a "good" climate/weather situation depends for a start on the person's activity: leisure (indoor or outdoor), indoor job,
outdoor work etc. In this context the temperature and rainfall can produce wildly varying responses depending on the person's physical condition and the nature of the activity.

Example: I had a relative who had no tolerance for "hot" weather at all - couldn't cope with anything above about 23C, so liked W'gton's modest range of temperatures. She was oblivious to the cold and had relatives in the south who were rather the same way.

(2) There's also the psychological reaction to weather: my perspective rates it on 2 different axes: one for stimulation/excitation (which can be extreme irritation!), and one for elation (not the excitable kind!)/depression.

To illustrate: I rate sunshine highly and hence dull, placid do-nothing weather gets me down - a poor score on the E/D scale. On the other hand windy weather, while often irritating, can be exciting when a part of a good storm, and a moderately fresh wind can give me a very agreeable feeling if combined with clear sunny conditions.
This is different from the warm laid-back vibe of a hot clear sunny morning of the Hawkes Bay/Central Otago type.

On the other hand, my pet hate of all, overcast lowering misty skies with poor visibility, a strong wind and a bit of drizzle scores badly on both axes! This season Wellington had a much larger quota of such weather than usual in the last 4 months, a strong contrast to what prevailed in 2005 and earlier in 2006.

I've little doubt that some would totally disagree with all of this, which would further serve to emphasise the subjective nature of it all.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 10:31

Thanks for clarifying the Auckland sites RWood. I incorrectly assumed the aero and Mangere sites were one in the same. Presumably Mangere is NIWA's primary site for recent Ak sunshine records, whereas it's Owairaka site (Mt Albert, in the heart of the Ak isthmus) appears to be the primary site for rainfall. Not sure about temps though? Yes, gets very confusing. Doesn't help when the NZ Herald appears to use MetService for their handful of reported sunshine obs, except for Ak which are supplied by NIWA and then they quote the (redundant) city averages from Albert Park as a comparison. Seems to be one of the pitfalls of user-pays when the public are forced to rely on the media for their wx info. I also wonder why NIWA shift the goal-posts on their 30 year averages, as this will skew future comparisons with past ones - wouldn't it be better to simply base that average from as far back as reliable began to say present day?
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 10:37

Think yesterday may now have been the hottest day for Auckland this summer, but that gave way to some good falls including the odd thunderstorm from late last night as the front went through. Cleared early this morn but now mostly cloudy with a few cbs and light rain/ showers around. Also light rain/showers around Wellington.

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amMon29Jan

Auckland
28C - 18C,19.6mm
Hamilton
27C - 17C, 22.4mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
21C - 14C, 19.0mm
Christchurch
25C - 9C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
17C - 4C, 1.6mm
Invercargill
15C - 5C, 4.0mm

eek
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 10:50

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Thanks for clarifying the Auckland sites RWood. I incorrectly assumed the aero and Mangere sites were one in the same. Presumably Mangere is NIWA's primary site for recent Ak sunshine records, whereas it's Owairaka site (Mt Albert, in the heart of the Ak isthmus) appears to be the primary site for rainfall. Not sure about temps though? Yes, gets very confusing. Doesn't help when the NZ Herald appears to use MetService for their handful of reported sunshine obs, except for Ak which are supplied by NIWA and then they quote the (redundant) city averages from Albert Park as a comparison. Seems to be one of the pitfalls of user-pays when the public are forced to rely on the media for their wx info. I also wonder why NIWA shift the goal-posts on their 30 year averages, as this will skew future comparisons with past ones - wouldn't it be better to simply base that average from as far back as reliable began to say present day?
A very good point Nev, as site continuity is highly desirable, and all too seldom achieved. NIWA seems to prefer to not create composite records (which is a rather messy business) when it comes to averages, though for high/low citations for rainfall or sunshine it quite often uses all available site data. The Auckland sunshine data is certainly difficult to analyse though my gut feeling from the collection of fragments was that values rose a bit from about 1936-1945 (perhaps not as far as the records suggest, values may be a bit suspect in that period), dropped back a bit in the 1950s and then stayed fairly stable or a bit higher again until the latish 1980s, from whence a significant drop occurred with a reversal perhaps starting about 2002 or so. But there are too many sites and too many issues, like bad Albert Park data from 1947-1955 [then closed], bad City data from 1986 to 1993[?date] closure, and soem problems with Whenuapai data in the late 1990s.

It annoys me that there was a gap created in the rainfall records [and sunshine] when Alexandra closed in the mid-90s [reopened later], as it's an interesting site - the driest town in NZ, with the driest locality close at hand [my family had a modest holiday bach at the latter years ago].

Ch'ch has a discontinuity or not very good overlap for sun records, with a city site 1930-1953 and airport 1949-present. Timaru has interesting fluctuations in its sunshine levels but has had several sites, making analysis difficult. The list goes on and on and on...
Posted by: desertdust

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/01/2007 14:03

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Just pointing out the cold hard facts of the climate in Southern Vic.
ok, I guess if someone was chasing maximum sunshine and high temperatures they'd be living in the Pilbara region, Karratah, Port Hedland or even Broome. I've spent time working there and still do occasionally, I'm always happy to leave.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/01/2007 14:15

It's a sunny day here again. No chance of the record going, now that the monthly total should be about 185 plus tomorrow's value. Cloudiness in virtually all regions this month has dominated, but I cannot yet believe a month-to-date total for Nelson of only about 156 hrs up to yesterday eek , according to Stuff weather [its record January low by a comfortable margin is 179]. Will have to wait for NIWA's monthly summary.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/01/2007 15:47

Here we had strong WSW and a period of overnight rain and then the Winds Rose from the SW at Gale Force but the weather was mainly fine.Low 15 High 21

Wellington Fresh WNW and mostly fine with max of 22

Christchurch moderate winds from the S and high 19Ş
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/01/2007 07:50

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Here we had strong WSW and a period of overnight rain and then the Winds Rose from the SW at Gale Force but the weather was mainly fine.Low 15 High 21

Wellington Fresh WNW and mostly fine with max of 22

Christchurch moderate winds from the S and high 19Ş
The usual BS from NZAAS :rolleyes: . According to the 1 hourly METARS yesterday...

Airport Airport (which is about 10kms W of nzaas) recorded max winds of only 20 kts (37 km/h) and they were from the WSW during the middle of the day. That's just a 'Fresh Breeze' (not even close to 'Gale Force'). Max temp was at least 22C.

Wellington Airport's winds came mainly from N and with max winds of 15 kts (28 km/h) - 'Moderate Breeze'. Max temp was at least 22C

Christchurch Airports's winds went from W to S to ENE with max winds of 15 kts (28 km/h). Max temp was at least 21C
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/01/2007 08:14

EDIT: 'Airport Airport' should have read Auckland Airport above.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/01/2007 15:58

Very cool this morning with mostly clear skies in Auckland today, partly cloudy in Wellington with gusty N'erlies and some early morning fog in Christchurch with a little cloud build-up during the day.

Here's the obs for the last couple of days

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amTue30Jan

Auckland
25C - 16C,6.2mm
Hamilton
25C - 13C, 4.4mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 12C, 4.2mm
Christchurch
23C - 10C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
23C - 5C, 5.6mm
Invercargill
18C - 8C, 1.4mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amWed31Jan

Auckland
22C - 12C,0.0mm
Hamilton
22C - 8C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
20C - 12C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
21C - 6C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
20C - 9C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
18C - 10C, 1.4mm
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/02/2007 11:00

Cloud beginning to build over Auckland now with gentle NNW breezes as a front starts to move slowly onto the S'n North Island. Cloud also building over Wellington with strong and gusty N'erlies. Some heavy rain expected over the North Island's lower E'n ranges today. A little less cloud in Christchurch with gentle breezes.

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amThu1Feb

Auckland
22C - 12C,0.0mm
Hamilton
22C - 8C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
19C - 15C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
26C - 16C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
26C - 5C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
20C - 9C, 10.4mm
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/02/2007 20:54

2007 Jan. NZ climate summary.

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0701sum.pdf
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/02/2007 21:09

Yes, it appears Auckland's sunshine was actually near normal for Jan according to NIWA. Temps were above normal in Hamilton, but below normal in the other 4 main centres, especially Christchurch.

NIWA Sunshine & Rainfall (v normal) for Jan 2007

Auckland
220 hrs (96%), 58 mm (78%)
Hamilton
190 hrs (82%), 93 mm (113%)
Wellington
196 hrs (80%), 102 mm (141%)
Christchurch
177 hrs (77%), 22 mm (52%)
Dunedin
145 hrs (82%), 44 mm (61%)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/02/2007 21:57

The report also shows Nelson as only 181 hrs [68%] - more than 100 less than last year when we holidayed there, and its lowest since 1945 [at an older site]. Takaka on 169 and Paraparaumu on 167 were lower still [Palm. Nth probably had even less still]. Unusually, this would give Invercargill more sun than Nelson. There is no real "match" for this unusual month in the January records that I have had access to, not even a fairly close one.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/02/2007 14:21

Early cloud cleared to mostly fine today but at the same time the SW Winds Rose from 9am to be Strong at times especially during the afternoon,Low 17 High 21c

Wellington mainly fine,moderate winds mostly NW in the afternoon,High 22c

Christchurch mostly fine,light to modereate NE high 22

Fine in most places apart from a few showers in taranaki and partly cloudy with the odd shower in the S&W of the SI
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/02/2007 11:49

Much better report NZAAS. However, it was actually rain/drizzle that cleared in Auckland yesterday morning, brought in by a fresh SW change at about 5:30am and a temporary decrease in wind speed. Once cleared by about 9am, SW'ers again picked up to a fresh breeze (max winds of 18 kts). Skies were generally partly cloudy for the rest of the day. A couple of degrees can usually be added to the airport temps for NE parts of Auckland when SW'ers have little cloud.

Some light drizzle in Wellington this morning between about 5:30am to 7:00am. As RWood pointed out, a couple of degrees can usually subtracted from Wellington Airport's temps for Kelburn.

Rain/drizzle also fell in Christchurch last night from about 7pm to about 1pm. Yesterday's max temps were up to 4 degrees warmer than the airport in parts of Christchurch, which is a little more unusual.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amFri2Feb

Auckland
24C - 15C,1.4mm
Hamilton
23C - 14C, 0.2mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 11C, 1.8mm
Christchurch
25C - 11C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
22C - 7C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
14C - 8C, 17.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amSat3Feb

Auckland
22C - 16C,0.0mm
Hamilton
21C - 12C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
21C - 11C, 2.6mm
Christchurch
18C - 9C, 6.0mm
Dunedin
16C - 8C, 1.4mm
Invercargill
14C - 9C, 4.0mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/02/2007 11:57

Further to monthly Jan summary - even more sun-starved were Palm. Nth [about 120-125 hrs] and Timaru [only 99.7 to 29th!!].

Skies slowly brightening here as the 7's Cup quarterfinals loom...
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/02/2007 15:39

Much better today without that awful Eastenders type wind,22c with a moderate WSW and fine from 10am,Low 15c

Wellington mainly fine 19 with considerable high cloud,light ESE

Christchurch PC but dry 18c and a light NE

Fine most places with high country cloudiness and in some NI eastern areas,SI partly cloudy in most areas but sun as well
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/02/2007 10:39

Auckland Airport recorded fairly steady moderate SW'ers (max 15 kts) yesterday. Wellington Airport also recorded fairly steady moderate S'erlies (max 13 kts) during the day before turning N about 6pm. And Christchurch Airport also recorded fairly steady moderate NNE'ers (max 16 kts) after W'erliies before about 5am. Cloud is building in Christchurch this morning, but just partly cloudy in Wellington and Auckland (clear here over Waiheke). Upper level air is expected to gradually cool today leading to deep convection with a risk of fairly slow moving thunderstorms in many central upper North Island inland areas this arvo.
eek

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amSun4Feb

Auckland
22C - 12C,0.0mm
Hamilton
22C - 12C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 10C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
18C - 9C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
19C - 8C, 0.6mm
Invercargill
16C - 11C, 1.2mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/02/2007 11:53

Don't know the temperature, but it has turned into a classic anticyclonic summer day now, of the kind that has been in very short supply this season.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/02/2007 20:58

Severe thunderstorms hammering Northland today and continue to. CAPE has risen to 1400j/Kg which is excepionally high for our maritime climate.

Quote:

Severe Weather Warning (full text)

Issued by MetService at 08:25pm 06-Feb-2007

FURTHER BOUTS OF HEAVY RAIN FOR NORTHLAND TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY
MORNING,SPREADING TO COROMANDEL PENINSULA WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
A slow moving low north of New Zealand is directing a moist easterly
flow onto the North Island, bringing further bursts of heavy rain and
thunderstorms to northern parts of Northland overnight and on
Wednesday morning. Heavy rain and thunderstorms are expected to
spread south of Whangarei Wednesday morning,then ease later on
Wednesday. Heavy falls are also likely on the Coromandel Peninsula
from about late Wednesday morning to Wednesday evening.
People in these areas are advised to watch for rising streams and
rivers.Thunderstorms may bring localised surface flooding and intense
downpours, especially in Northland.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/02/2007 12:57

Yes, yesterday was NZ's national day (Waitangi Day), commemorating the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi 167 years ago at Waitangi in the Far North's Bay of Islands. It was also the wettest area in the country, due to dual lows to the NW and NE delivering strong to near gale-force, moist easteries to the N and NE of the North Island over the past 2-3 days. Parts of Northland have already exceeded their Feb rainfall average.

Severe Gales of up to 82km/h (44 kts) were recorded in the Colville Channel (between the Coromandel Peninsula and Great Barrier Island) yesterday. Friends reported waves higher there than the single hulled 'Jet-raider' ferry yesterday evening.

In contrast the South Island has just been a little cloudy. Although Christchurch began with a little fog yesterday, strong easterlies picked up later. Alexandra in the deep S had the days max temp of 32C.

Some MetService rainfall totals over the last few days to 9am Wed

113.6mm - Kaitaia (Far North)
97.6mm - Paihia-Russell (Bay of Islands)
66.2mm - Whangarei Airport (Northland)
86.8mm - Tauranga Airport (Bay of Plenty)
28.0mm - Napier Airport (Hawkes Bay)


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amMon5Feb

Auckland
23C - 15C,0.0mm
Hamilton
20C - 15C, 0.4mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
22C - 14C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
20C - 8C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
24C - 7C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
20C - 8C, 0.0mm


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amTue6Feb

Auckland
24C - 16C,0.0mm
Hamilton
24C - 10C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
24C - 13C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
22C - 9C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
21C - 7C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
20C - 9C, 0.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9amWed7Feb

Auckland
26C - 19C,2.4mm
Hamilton
26C - 18C, 17.2mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
25C - 13C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
22C - 16C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
23C - 11C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
18C - 8C, 0.0mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/02/2007 15:50

Nev - note there will probably be a discrepancy W'gton Airport-City for today, with the airport lower this time. In this semi-foehn easterly flow [optimal is ENE anticyclonic, we're close to that] the airport and south coast may get a significant cooling seabreeze which doesn't reach the city and western zones.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/02/2007 07:41

Noted RWood, although Wgtn Airport obs show winds turned S'erly from about 9am yesterday. Over the last 5 days, daily T-maxs for Wgtn Airport and Kelburn have been about same, although Kelburn's T-mins have been lower.

Very little rain has reached Auckland (very humid though). However there was some flooding further S in the Hamilton/Waikato area.

Flash floods have taken out a few bridges up N, isolating many parts.

Here's a few more figures from this mornings NZ Herald...
Quote:


Water from a flooded stream surrounds the Liquor Stop bar and liquor store south of Paihia.
Photo / Dean Purcell



Photo / Northern Advocate

...Rainfall figures for the region show that between Monday and yesterday, Kaitaia was drenched with almost 160mm. The area normally has 100mm during the entire month of February.

Western and eastern areas of the Mangamuka Range, south of Kaitaia, got 199mm and 212mm respectively, with rain falling at over 31mm an hour.

Kaeo recorded 165mm for the period, North Hokianga 146mm, Ohaeawai 172mm, and Kaikohe 191mm.

By contrast, eastern Whangarei (Glenbervie Hills) got just 15mm. Whangarei city recorded 93mm and Dargaville on the west coast 112.5mm.

Rain had cleared from many areas by late yesterday and was forecast to ease to showers elsewhere last night.

(Full story - Downpours cut off far Far North)
(Also - Worst over, clean-up begins in Far North)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/02/2007 08:29

Interesting, because the old Glenbervie Forest site [same as the current one?] has a high rainfall mean. In 1956 it scored about 116" of rain from memory - numberous flood events in Northland between 6/55 and 8/56, especially from 12/55. April & May 1956 falls at Glenbervie were 19.74" and 21.14"!!

Re W'gton airport - probably not enough humid air infeed from lower latitudes to bring in moister air. If that happened, we'd get a fog event.

Any comments on the Waiheke ferry incident?
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/02/2007 09:53

gosh amazing that dargaville my home town got 112.5mm that is a very good fall for there I wonder if there was any local flooding
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/02/2007 07:15

Not sure about any local flooding in Dargaville squid - perhaps you may be able to get some better info?

See what you mean RWood - Kelburn recorded 26C on Wed, whereas about 6 kms away, Wgtn Airport only got to about 21C. Interestingly the NZ Herald says 24C, so I'm guessing theirs is a composite.

Also on Wed morn, there was some rain/showers around Akld Airport (although nothing on the MetService obs?).

Some more early morn fog around Chch Airport today and yesterday with some light rain/showers yesterday evening.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Thu8Feb

Auckland
26C - 18C,0.0mm
Hamilton
25C - 14C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
26C - 16C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
24C - 12C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
21C - 13C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
19C - 12C, 0.0mm


Re: 'The Waiheke ferry incident'.

The Waiheke ferry incident came during a busy weekend on the Island with an all day dance party at Stonyridge Vineyard, 'Sculpture on the Gulf', an appearance by the Auckland Warriors and several weddings. In light of the Stonyridge party, Fullers did put on a larger vessel for it's last Saturday night sailing, but apparently was only staffed to handle 550 passengers. One witness said a Fullers staff member called out, as the gangplank was being removed for the 12:30am sailing, that another vessel would arrive in 30 minutes to take the remainder of passengers back to Auckland. However Fullers seem to deny this and another boat never arrived, leaving 60-120 people stranded on the wharf with overnight temps getting down to about 13C (just to keep this weather related). The terminal was also locked by security staff before the last ferry left and was later broken into with some superficial damage caused and some food and drink stolen. The Stonyridge party organiser insists he made Fullers aware that he would be bringing large numbers of revellers to Waiheke who would be seeking a late return.

It may seem like a poor decision by Fullers, and a terrible PR blunder which can only have a negative impact on public perception of Waiheke. However, I've often caught the same ferry departing from the city at 11:45, only to be met by groups of, er, 'high-spirited' partygoers waiting on the Waiheke wharf for the return journey back to the city. Now, you can probably imagine how groups of revelling passengers might react when told there was no room for them on the boat. From past experience, I suspect they could have became a little abusive towards the crew, and it would've probably been that same crew that had to return some 90 minutes later to face, by then, an even more incensed mob. Would the captain have then been able to guarantee the safety of his/her crew and ultimately that of the vessel?
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/02/2007 10:53

Forgot to mention that on Wednesday a Waitetuna farmer near Raglan, W of Hamilton also recorded 110 mm, causing flash floods on his property.

Fresh N'erlies in Wellington this morn, after waving between N'erlies and S'erlies yesterday. Kelburns T-max yesterday was again 2-3C warmer than Wgtn Airport. Dunedin had some good falls last night, with a cold front moving up the South Island today. No lack of sunshine in the first week of Feb though, with Christchurch averaging 10.3 hrs per day, Wellington 9.4 hrs and Auckland 8.7 hrs.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Fri9Feb

Auckland
26C - 17C,0.0mm
Hamilton
27C - 14C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
26C - 17C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
24C - 14C, 0.2mm
Dunedin
24C - 14C, 15.8mm
Invercargill
19C - 12C, 3.0mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/02/2007 12:52

Always a problem with "revellers" [a term often synonymous with "barbarians" in a binge-drinking culture?!]. But I'm sure Fuller's could be better organised.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/02/2007 07:58

RWood :- Sounds like your wish for some decent summer weather for Wellington has finally arrived judging by Nev's daily readings.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/02/2007 10:26

Yes, 86.8 hrs in 9 days, pleasantly warm and the overnight S showers have cleared quickly.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/02/2007 11:00

Yes, S'erly change came through late last night in Wellington, fairly strong around 4:00am. Christchurch had some rain/showers/drizzle throughout the night. Just partly cloudy here in Auckland with gentle S'erlies, but some towering cumulus around. Good chance of convective thunderstorms for the upper North Island this evening, particularly around the Hamilton/Waikato area. Blenheim, on the South Island's NE coast, had country's top T-max yesterday of 30C.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Sat10Feb

Auckland
26C - 17C,0.0mm
Hamilton
28C - 13C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
22C - 11C, 6.2mm
Christchurch
23C - 11C, 1.0mm
Dunedin
17C - 7C, 4.4mm
Invercargill
16C - 7C, 0.0mm
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/02/2007 18:38

Quite an interesting day with warm sunny weather then afternoon thunderstorms with very heavy rain and temp drop of 7 or 8 in an hour,These thunderstorms were in the Waikato also,
Temp 17 to 27

Wellington 19 S cloudy
Christchurch S and only 15
Tmin Oamaru 14 Tokoroa 28
Cloudy and cool in the east of both islands and south otherwise fine with afternoon buildups with TS
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/02/2007 20:43

Here are a few of my pics from yesterday's action. laugh









HDR images...


The remains of Nelson as a shallow low looks like it will continue giving northern NZ easterly winds before a nice high rolls over.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/02/2007 06:37

Some nice shots there Willoughby. Yes, the convergence of W'erly sea breezes produced some good localised thunderstorms late on Saturday afternoon, one of the best forming over S Auckland right over the airport with 31mm recorded there, although a personal AWS a few kms to the SE in Weymouth recorded 43mm in just 25 minutes. You can see this cell quite clearly on the 4pm radar image below. Most other areas around Auckland received either just barely measurable rainfall or none at all. Wellington just had some light rain mid Saturday morning and Christchurch some light drizzle early Saturday morning and some light rain late last night.

(Click for lager image - 100k)

Auckland Radar - Feb 10, 4:00pm (NZDT)


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Sun11Feb

Auckland
27C - 17C,31.4mm
Hamilton
27C - 14C, 1.8mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
17C - 11C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
15C - 11C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
14C - 7C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
15C - 7C, 0.0mm
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/02/2007 14:32

Been mostly cloudy with the odd drizzle in Christchurch over the last couple of days. Wellington, cloudy with the odd brief evening shower yesterday, but very sunny today. Auckland, mostly cloudy yesterday and just scattered cloud today. Very cold in Dunedin at 4am this morning. Westport, on the South Islands N'n West Coast, appears to the only place with an action, receiving over 100mm, most of which fell overnight.

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Mon12Feb

Auckland
23C - 18C,0.0mm
Hamilton
26C - 16C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
18C - 12C, 0.0mm
Christchurch
18C - 12C, 0.4mm
Dunedin
16C - 8C, 0.6mm
Invercargill
15C - 6C, 0.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Tue13Feb

Auckland
21C - 14C,0.0mm
Hamilton
20C - 9C, 0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
16C - 9C, 0.0mm
Westport
21C - 15C, 93.8mm
Christchurch
16C - 10C, 0.2mm
Dunedin
17C - 3C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
15C - 5C, 0.0mm
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/02/2007 20:36

Wow - temps have gone back to being quite low for this time of the year in Wellington and the E and S of the South Island - is there a cold S outbreak occuring? How would you rate the temps so far?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/02/2007 20:56

Coolish E/S air. But Ch'ch has been almost continuously dull from Saturday, while Wellington was very sunny today and mainly fine in the weekend [prob. about 122 hrs in 1st 13 days of Feb. - Timaru had only 123 in the whole of January]. Lack of strong winds is fine with me, needless to say!
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/02/2007 08:26

lack of boring W and especially SW flows
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/02/2007 11:24

Hi Rainfan. Yes, a little different to last week when Upper Hutt, to the NE of Wgtn, reached 32.3C on Thursday. MetService reckon daytime temps have already reached their summer peak, but are still on the warm side, and they are forecasting more warm dry weather for the rest of this week and the start of next week. The remnants of TC Nelson, currently sitting to the NE of NZ, appears to have forced a temporary retreat of the S Tasman high's E'n flank and allowed a second low to slip past the SE of the country. So yes, a cooler SE flow to the SE of the South Island and a relatively warmer E'erly flow for the North Island. On Friday, a front moving NE is expected to move across the North Island, followed by a S'erly flow.

Today, mostly clear skies over Waiheke, although I can see some cumulus mediocris building up over mainland Auckland. Some cloud around Wellington and mostly cloudy around Christchurch.


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Wed14Feb

Auckland
23C - 13C,0.0mm
Hamilton
25C - 9C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
19C - 12C,0.2mm
Christchurch
17C - 6C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
18C - 9C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
15C - 10C, 0.6mm
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/02/2007 13:35

Blue skies now showing on Templeton webcam. Passing clouds in W'gton but sun has shone most of the time.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/02/2007 17:05

Weather became Beebop today with freshening SSW but remained mostly fine with some cloud.Low 15 high 24

Wellington fine with light S and 19

Christchurch light winds 21 and sunny.

Low 15 in Invercargill High 26 in Tokoroa
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/02/2007 15:44

Mostly fine in Auckland today with scattered clouds, the odd isolated sprinkle and strong SW'ers. Wellington, partly cloudy, the odd isolated light shower and strong to near gale S'erlies. Christchurch, mostly cloudy, very light rain early this morn and fresh SSW'ers.

Of the 3 cities, Wellington is leading in the sunshine stakes for the first 2 weeks of Feb with an average of 9.5 hrs per day (well above normal), Auckland 7.5 hrs per day (above normal) and Christchurch slipping behind with 6.8 hrs per day (slightly below normal).


MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Thu15Feb

Auckland
23C - 13C,0.0mm
Hamilton
26C - 10C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
19C - 11C,0.0mm
Christchurch
21C - 12C, 0.0mm
Dunedin
20C - 10C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
15C - 10C, 0.0mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Fri16Feb

Auckland
24C - 16C,0.0mm
Hamilton
24C - 14C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
20C - 13C,1.2mm
Christchurch
18C - 12C, 0.6mm
Dunedin
22C - 12C, 0.0mm
Invercargill
17C - 12C, 0.0mm
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/02/2007 17:27

Looking at the forecasts - sounds like pretty good weather expected over the next 7 days with sunny, warm and dry weather, you must be so pleased RWood. laugh

Noted that many parts of NZ havent had much rain, Auckland's current total of 35mm - 31mm of this fell during a single storm.

Southland does seem to be cooler than normal ? As Invercargill's highest temp Feb-wise to date is only 20oC.

March last year was colder than normal NZ - wide. Do you think March this year will be warmer than usual ?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/02/2007 20:46

Yes, liking the sunny conditions. Estimate 155 hrs to end-today, 17th. This month is much milder than January overall but probably still below average in a significant part of the South island. At least that's the impression I've had. If so this would be on track with outlooks - refer NIWA's Feb-April outlook and Fencepost (TonyT).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/02/2007 15:14

Fine and sunny everywhere apart from some cloud mostly in Taranaki and little north and a few showers in the far south.

Auckland fine and sunny with moderate SW but winds starting to freshen up now 13 to 23

Wellington little wind fine and nice 20
Christchurch light ENE and sunny 24
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/02/2007 14:54

Nev, there could be a biggish temp. gradient across W'gton today - brilliant conditions with fresh southerly sea breeze affecting some S & E parts this afternoon.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 11:48

Nev - a very dry month indeed on Waiheke, judging by the recent news reports?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 21:17

Looks like the North Island is doing very well in the sunshine stakes (Invercargill seems to be doing well too).

No NW airflows yet? (Ive heard that there is one occuring now - the 1st for this month) ? Reflected by low temps in E and S of the SI.
Posted by: eternal rain

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 21:43

U sure ur a rain fan rainfan? :p or a sunshinefan

Seems as though NZ has been really dry lately, i dont think sunshine is what they need right now..
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 21:55

Quote:
Originally posted by die elnino:
U sure ur a rain fan rainfan? :p or a sunshinefan

Seems as though NZ has been really dry lately, i dont think sunshine is what they need right now..
laugh laugh laugh

U know me - hate the excessive amounts of sunshine and blue skies - the more cloud and rain there is the better laugh .

Having lived in NZ for a couple of years - NZ folk certainly appreciate the sun (Its the "Land of the long White Cloud") after all laugh Some members on this NZ weather forum certainly are appreciating the dry and sunny weather unlike us here.

One thing Ive noticed about the difference between OZ and NZ is that Sunshine hours tends to be sort of a big thing in NZ unlike here - barely gets a mention in the media. Rainfall is a "big" thing here in Oz (naturally).
Posted by: petethemoskeet

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 21:58

Last map in the latest EC run shows that NZ is going to get hammered by the developing cyclone off the qld coast.If it comes off there could be some bad flooding
Posted by: eternal rain

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 21:59

lol yeah i suppose coz NZ is in more south lattitudes than us they probably hate the rain when it comes.. but somtimes you need it when theres a harsh drought.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 22:03

Oh they do especially if it drags on for weeks and weeks.....I loved it - used to go around singing the rain's praises much to thier annoyance laugh , however any part of NZ can experience short or long droughts at any time of the year.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 22:14

Yes, the grasses here in the Waikato basin are just starting to get brown!! May even be forced to go on level one restictions.. haven't had that since 2005 here in Feb.

Now, lets hope the ECMWF proves correct with it's recent model runs and gives us some heavy rain.. but not to Northland! - They've just got out of severe flooding.



Cyclone time I think!! laugh
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/02/2007 22:29

Na i think it will stay close to the Qld coast and then you get what is left over
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/02/2007 07:33

Most of us like the sun and warmth. NZ pays a big price for its scenery - RAIN and cloud. NZ farmers can give you a distorted impression. The drier regions are really not that dry overall, and changes in preferred agricultural/pastoral practices are being made to adapt to future issues.

NZ towns range from about 39% possible sun to 59%. So we certainly don't get too much of the sun. We are a rather cloudy country by world standards. That's why many UK immigrants were disillusioned in the 70s - told lies about the climate.

[One simple stat - over 60% of the US gets at least 60% of possible sun].

It really irritates me that the bloody &*^#$@*() Aust. papers take sunshine so much for granted that it's not even published in the daily reports!!

I still remember an Auckland couple at a Cairns hotel one August - she was telling him it had been showery for months there, and now she was in Aus. it was still a cloudy day! [the sun did come out on the following days however...]

With the rainfall, the issue is often the frequency - too many rain days for a substantial part of a typical year.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/02/2007 07:54

Quote:
Originally posted by Willoughby:
Yes, the grasses here in the Waikato basin are just starting to get brown!! May even be forced to go on level one restictions.. haven't had that since 2005 here in Feb.

Now, lets hope the ECMWF proves correct with it's recent model runs and gives us some heavy rain.. but not to Northland! - They've just got out of severe flooding.



Cyclone time I think!! laugh
Wow, I did know it was dry over most of NZ but didnt realise it was that bad - surprising to see that even Southland is midly affected.

I remember Auckland had a water crisis (1991-1995) ?? and they were planning to divert water from the Waikato River to the dams in Auckland (They fell to 20% didnt they) ?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/02/2007 08:36

Bound to be followed by some wetter stuff. You only have to read the old "Gazette" monthly summaries over the decades - "unsettled conditions", "shearing and haymaking delayed", etc. etc. etc to see what the dominant forms are.
Or the NZ Met. Society's newsletters - the seasonal highlights stories start with (99% of the time) "Spring/Summer/Autumn/Winter was very unsettled..."

Occasionally there are longer periods of serious deficiency - the most notable (eg) in recent years being late 2000 - Spring 2001 in central NZ and the Marlb. 1997/98 El Nino "dry" - but it's tame stuff compared to the Australian situation. It's just that certain types of farming would like conditions so reliable that even Southland can't always oblige.

By August 1994 Auckland's situation was a bit stretched. Sep & Oct 1994 promptly put paid to that - we spent a week there in Oct under showery SWerlies. But in the prolonged Nino events in the 1940-44 period things got bad for Auckland - by May 1943 I think dam reserves were down to about 1 day's worth.

NZ has in the past simply not managed water well enough. Things are getting better now.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/02/2007 15:06

Here Winds Rose to become Strong which they still are from the SW with the weather varying from PC to 8/8 all day.Temp 15 to 22

Wellington 20 with winds grdually becoming fresh at times from the South

Christchurch dry with a moderate NE high 18

Cloudy in most areas with but fine in the BOP and Gisborne,clearing over most of the SI apart from showers in the south with WSW
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/02/2007 15:20

Can see that Auckland is currently on 212 hours of sunshine so far this month - just had a look at the live web cam of Auckland - shows mainly blue skies with few clouds atm.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/02/2007 16:30

This report from NZ Herald - seems like only Auckland and Palmerston North are the only warm centres in NZ this month with all other centres below the norm.

As reported in the NZ Herald:-

While New Zealand is basking in a lovely February, the "hot" weather to date has been slightly cooler than averages for the month.

Niwa climatologist Stuart Burgess has supplied figures to the Herald which show the temperatures recorded at most airports so far are slightly below the 30-year average. While at Auckland Airport the average February temperature to date has matched the 24C average, other centres such as Hamilton, Tauranga, Gisborne, Napier, Nelson, Christchurch, and Dunedin were slightly lower.

Bucking the trend, Palmerston North has been 0.5C warmer than usual with temperatures so far averaging 23.7C.

Normal rainfall was also expected in the next couple of months but Auckland, Northland, Waikato and Gisborne could be drier than usual.
Posted by: Karratha Pilotdude

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/02/2007 17:17

Everyone should watch this laugh

Toni Marsh is a weather presenter on Tv 3 in NZ. And Augie Auwer (sp) is an ex weather presenter on tv 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxlM3F1Tzgk
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/02/2007 17:47

Quote:
Originally posted by Rainfan:
Can see that Auckland is currently on 212 hours of sunshine so far this month - just had a look at the live web cam of Auckland - shows mainly blue skies with few clouds atm.
224.7 for W'gton y'day, prob. up to 235 at end-today. A generally dry sunny month. I expect temps. will be near-normal overall by month's-end.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/02/2007 15:18

Would this be rare for Invercargill to have a "Fire Ban" ??? Can anyone give more information on this ? Thanks.

Report from the Southland Times today.

Continuing hot weather prompts fire ban in south
By JARED MORGAN - The Southland Times | Wednesday, 28 February 2007

HOT TOPIC: Southland District Council principal fire officer Mike Grant changing the fire danger sign at Lorneville. A complete fire ban comes into force for Southland today.

A total fire ban for Southland and parts of the Clutha district comes into force from 8am today as warm weather and strong winds increase the risk of fire.

Southern Rural Fire District principal rural fire officer Mike Grant, of Invercargill, said this meant no fires were allowed to be lit in the open.

The ban suspends all existing fire permits but gas barbecues and cookers are exempt.

Continued hot and dry conditions throughout the region meant the fire risk was high to very high throughout almost all Southland and similar conditions were forecast to continue pushing the fire danger into the extreme range, Mr Grant said.

This made activities such as using chainsaws, mowers or tractors potentially hazardous.

"Anyone using machinery in dry grass should have water on hand to dampen down the area beforehand and to extinguish any sparks," Mr Grant said.

The ban also applies to all townships within the Southland and Gore districts and in Invercargill city and means people in those areas cannot burn rubbish, even in incinerators, or use open braziers to cook outdoors.

There would have to be significant rain over an extended period before the ban would be lifted, Mr Grant said.

If areas continued to dry out, restrictions could be imposed on activities that had a high risk of causing fires, he said.

"The ban has been imposed for public safety."

A fire ban will also be placed on all areas of the Queenstown Lakes District, including all townships and DOC land, from today.

A total fire ban was put in place in Central Otago on February 15, replacing the restricted fire season imposed every summer.

MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt, of Wellington, said Central Otago and Queenstown had been dry this month.

Mr McDavitt also said Southland had received only about half its average rainfall with 30mm this month while Queenstown had received 12mm and Central Otago just 10mm.

Areas like Northburn and Clyde were both registering extremely high on the drought code, he said.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/03/2007 07:32

Auckland could use a big drink
NZ Herald Wednesday February 28, 2007
By Martha McKenzie-Minifie

Auckland has been hit by drought conditions with just half the normal rainfall levels expected in February, forcing vegetable growers to adopt emergency measures to save their crops.

MetService figures show Auckland - which usually has around 80mm of rain in February - has had just 35mm so far.

Whangaparaoa Peninsula was the country's driest area during past weeks, with no rain at all since February 7.

Central parts of the North Island were rain-free since February 8.

In the South Island, Nelson Airport topped the list of dry zones, with no rain since February 12.

The driest February on record for Auckland was in 2000 when just 8mm of rain was recorded. The wettest February was in 1967 with 232mm of rain.

The dry conditions are taking a toll.

Pukekohe Growers agronomist Shane Smith said vegetable growers were irrigating crops "flat out" and were struggling to get around them quick enough.

Mr Smith said the vegetables grown outdoors were stressed.


He said the conditions had an upside for potato lovers - they were more flavoursome when water was slowly absorbed.

Metrowater said dam levels were average for this time of year but residents in areas with water tanks were running low on water.

Mike Stuart, who lives in Maraetai, southeast of Auckland, bought water last week for the first time in three years.

"The tankers are always around a little bit but you know when its getting dry because the tankers are just everywhere," he said.

His family had shortened showers and stopped watering the garden.

Waitakere rural fire officer Karl Nuttall said the heavy dowsing of rain before Christmas had kept down the fire danger in West Auckland.

"Ours is only just climbing into that moderate area."

MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt predicted a few showers for parts of Auckland tomorrow but the city would dry up again with a high pressure system forecast to dominate over much of the country until the weekend.

"At this stage the seasonal outlook is that March will bring more anticyclones, mixed with frontal systems.

"We will also be vulnerable to low-pressure systems moving in from the north."

Mr McDavitt said some people considered tomorrow to be the first day of autumn but he regarded the equinox on March 21 as the change of season.

Rainfall

* 35mm Rain this month

* 80mm Auckland's average rainfall for February

Article Ends.


Regarding the wettest and driest Feb on record for Auckland - the wettest Feb was 277mm in Feb 2004 and the driest was 0.0mm in 1909 - I dont know where whoever wrote this article got thier figures from.

The 35mm reading was taken at the airport - 31mm of this fell on 1 day during a thunderstorm. Other parts of Auckland missed out on this storm with many suburbs recording less than 10mm.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/03/2007 15:07

Here is February's 2007 Climate Summary.

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0702sum.pdf

A month of prevailing SE winds with record-near record high sunshine in the west of the South Island.

Out of all 5 main centres Auckland was the warmest and driest with only 9mm recorded at Owairaka (A suburb in Auckland metro area) and 228 hours of sunshine.

Ranfurly in Central Otago recorded no measurable rain at all (0.0mm)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/03/2007 15:26

Wellington was the sunniest of the "main 5" (239 hrs), but 0.6C below normal.

The Auckland discrepancy you quoted - probably their version is for a site with shorter records. Auckland has an issue with lack of site continuity.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/03/2007 17:04

Summer seasonal summary [rather brief]:

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/sclimsum_07_1_summer.pdf
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/03/2007 09:25

Auckland still comes out tops - the low temps- would be mainly due to Dec. 2006. Auckland recorded only 48% of its normal summer rainfall and is the sunniest of all 5 main centres.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/03/2007 15:06

The sunniest of all sites for this summer will be hard to guess in advance - Nelson low in Jan., Hokitika won't be too far off the pace. An unusual season.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/03/2007 16:24

Looking at various reports - sounds like NZ is enjoying some much warmer temps with sunnier days than was experienced during the 06/07 "Summer". Do you think you Kiwis will have an "Indian" autumn to compenstate for the cool summer?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/03/2007 19:14

Fair chance for March I think. April - anyone's guess, though NIWA and Blue Skies both hint it may be a bit warmer and drier than average in the east.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/03/2007 16:44

Of interest to rainfan perhaps: Wellington annual data for 2006 (Kelburn site, records back to 1928).

Rainfall at 1579mm was highest since 1979 [even so, the average for the last 25 years is now 1189mm, significantly lower than the longterm average of around 1245mm].

Raindays of 1mm or more were 148 (average 124) - highest since 1979 also.

Mean Temp. was a little down on normal - by just under 0.2C - but a little higher than 2004. 1998-2005 were (otherwise) much warmer.

Sunshine at 2159 hrs was above the 1971-2000 mean of 2065.

Windiness as measured by the average maximum daily gust was the highest since 1983 (2005 was the lowest of records going back to 1972) - but 6 years in the period 1972-1983 had comparable values.

Mean MSLP for the year was just a little below normal.

Overall I rated it 28th of the 35 years 1972-2006; of the lower ones, 1992 was poorest while the other 6 below 2006 all occurred during the decade 1974-1983. 2004 ranked 27th, 2005 1st.
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/03/2007 19:00

The tides are finally turning, the slight drought in western and northern areas of the North Island should be prospered slightly with a complex trough of low pressure giving outbreaks of rain and storms.
Strong west to southwesterly change behind the low.. looks good for thunder and hail chances for Canterbury and Otago.

Quote:
Issued by MetService at 08:09pm 12-Mar-2007

HEAVY RAIN OVERNIGHT FOR BAY OF PLENTY AND NORTHERN GISBORNE. HEAVY
RAIN IN FIORDLAND AND WESTLAND EASING OVERNIGHT.
A trough of low pressure moving across New Zealand is accompanied by
a front moving southeast over the northern half of the North Island
overnight. Rain in a humid northerly flow is expected to become heavy
in parts of Bay of Plenty and northern Gisborne from late this
evening to about dawn on Tuesday with 60 to 100mm possible in the
ranges.
Another front moving onto the South Island this evening is expected
to bring further heavy northerly rain to Fiordland and Westland up
until about midnight tonight, with 50 to 70mm in the ranges, then
easing early Tuesday morning.
Although these rainfalls are not exceptional, bursts of up to 20mm
per hour are possible and people in these areas are advised to watch
for rapidly rising streams and rivers.
Last week has been exceptionally warm due to the drying soils, Hamner Springs reached 35C the other day with a foehn nor'wester.. here in Hamilton we got our highest temp of summer so far with 28C. laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/03/2007 13:28

Here we had overnight rain and then showers with fresh Westerlies but unfortunately they tured SW and Rose To Gale Force about 3pm.low 16 High 22

Wellington Gale NW slowly easing with rain also easing 21

Christchurch warm overnight but cold strong SW and max afternoon 13
Dunedin similar SW and high 11
Rain spread south overnight to all areas but eased in the east especially in the NI
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/03/2007 19:22

As one might expect from NZASS's usual BS posts, there were no gales in either Auckland (max winds 23 kts) or Wellington (max winds 20 kts) today, although perhaps a little gusty. (A new thermometer probably also wouldn't go amiss)

However, tomorrow may be a different story...
Quote:
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING.
ISSUED BY MetService AT 7:59 pm 13-Mar-2007


SEVERE NORTHWEST GALES EXPECTED IN SOUTHERN NORTH ISLAND AREAS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ALSO A PERIOD OF HEAVY RAIN FOR BULLER NORTHWEST NELSON,THE TARARUA AND RUAHINE RANGES AND MT TARANAKI ON WEDNESDAY.

MetService forecasters expect a deepening low to move quickly across the South Island during Wednesday. An active, fast moving front should cross northern South Island late morning and the North Island during Wednesday afternoon and early evening. West or northwest gales are expected to spread over most of the North Island.

Over the southern half of the island severe gales are expected with damaging gusts up to 130 km/h in some eposed areas. Winds of this strength could cause damage to trees and buildings, and lift unsecured objects. Driving conditions are likely to be hazardous especially for high sided vehicles.

The front will also bring a burst of heavy rain to Buller, northwest Nelson, the Ruahine and Tararua ranges, and Mt Taranaki during Wednesday. People in these areas are advised to watch for rapidly rising streams and rivers.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/03/2007 21:04

The weather in W'gton has been a non-event so far - a little light rain, no noteworthy windiness so far. Tomorrow - may be different.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 06:30

Dev. How come the NZ Herald today says up to 6pm yesterday for max.wind SW 67kmh,Wellington N 67Kmh
Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
[QB] As one might expect from NZASS's usual BS posts, there were no gales in either Auckland (max winds 23 kts) or Wellington (max winds 20 kts) today, although perhaps a little gusty. (A new thermometer probably also wouldn't go amiss)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 06:41

Perhaps the data sources are different.

Wellington city didn't experience strong winds or the lightning bolt(s) which overnight caused power cuts from Johnsonville northwards to the Kapiti Coast and in Lower Hutt - just a little very light rain. Now partly cloudy with freshening NW - will be interesting to see if the squally conditions predicted for later arrive. If the flow stays close to westerly then W'gotn city should escape most of it.
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 11:01

Saw a news report of severe thunderstorms in the Auckland area last night - anyone want to comment?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 12:09

Here's a link: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10428697

Because of westerly sheltering, Wellington city didn't have the overnight problems with lightning strikes and power cuts. However it has experienced some heavy squally showers and thunder today - but wind speeds are not very high as the worst zones are those directly exposed to the west.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 16:00

The figures to 6pm yesterday published in this morning's weather section of the NZ Herald show max gusts - not max (sustained) winds and for Auckland this was more likely to have been from the W (or at best WSW). I suspect the Wellington gust figures probably came from Mt Kaukau.

A brief but violent squall passed through Auckland at 10pm last night causing some minor damage. Plenty of gale-force winds around today though!
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 16:07

Yes, the high ground here has had some strong gusts today, but not particularly so in lower areas sheltered from the west. All westerly sheltering fades out north of a line through about Petone.

The whole area had several bursts of heavy showers and thunder today, with some wind damage in Petone (surface flooding there) and particularly on the Kapiti Coast.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/03/2007 17:04

Here we had strong gusty WNW today until about now but now they have changed to the South West and Risen to Gale Force,Low 13 High 23 during the afternoon
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/03/2007 15:13

We had Gale Force SW overnight with lots of showers then they both eased with winds more WSW and strong with sunny and cloudy periods.Low 14 high 20

Wellington Fine and sunny with variable moderate winds mostly WNW high 19

Christchurch Fine and sunny with light W high 20

Cloudy with Showers in the west north of Hawera as usual and W or SW winds and few showers in the west and south of the SI fine and sunny elsewhere
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/03/2007 17:02

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Of interest to [b]rainfan perhaps: Wellington annual data for 2006 (Kelburn site, records back to 1928).

Rainfall at 1579mm was highest since 1979 [even so, the average for the last 25 years is now 1189mm, significantly lower than the longterm average of around 1245mm].

Raindays of 1mm or more were 148 (average 124) - highest since 1979 also.

Mean Temp. was a little down on normal - by just under 0.2C - but a little higher than 2004. 1998-2005 were (otherwise) much warmer.

Sunshine at 2159 hrs was above the 1971-2000 mean of 2065.

Windiness as measured by the average maximum daily gust was the highest since 1983 (2005 was the lowest of records going back to 1972) - but 6 years in the period 1972-1983 had comparable values.

Mean MSLP for the year was just a little below normal.

Overall I rated it 28th of the 35 years 1972-2006; of the lower ones, 1992 was poorest while the other 6 below 2006 all occurred during the decade 1974-1983. 2004 ranked 27th, 2005 1st. [/b]
Thanks RWood - very interesting stats there :cheers:

What you're saying is for the already-observed years of the 2000's - they apart from 2006 fared pretty well compared to those of the 1980s and 1990's.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/03/2007 17:13

My brother rang me from Invercargill last night, said its been very wet, cold and windy over the last 2 days at Invercargill with maximums of 10-12oC, finds the weather very fascinating. Looking at Metservice Obs for Invercargill - noted that already 100mm has fallen (around average) so far this month with more showery W-SW weather to contuine.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/03/2007 20:26

The first 12 days of March were a continuation of February's dryness, but also very warm almost everywhere - less so in the far south. I spent last weekend on a farm in Hawkes Bay - parched ground, lovely warm midsummer feeling. Now things are much cooler over the country with the WSW - crystal clear here with the sheltering.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/03/2007 14:32

Here mostly 8/8 today with Fresh WSW and a couple of light showers,low 14 to 20c

Wellington again fine and sunny Light winds and high 22c

Christchurch also fine with moderate ENE 19c

Cloudy as normal in the west of both islands and deep south with light showers otherwise fine in all those eastern areas
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/03/2007 13:28

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
The first 12 days of March were a continuation of February's dryness, but also very warm almost everywhere - less so in the far south. I spent last weekend on a farm in Hawkes Bay - parched ground, lovely warm midsummer feeling. Now things are much cooler over the country with the WSW - crystal clear here with the sheltering.
Looks like eastern areas including Wellington will be sunnier than average for March? Cloudier and wetter in western areas including the south coast of the SI.

Have nearly finished doing the Brisbane climate data - should be ready sometime next week. BOM in Brisbane were kind enough to send me the missing sunshine data - some surprises there Rwood wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/03/2007 14:35

It's looking that way - 131 hrs in 16 days here. Today overcast with a little light rain but mainly fine days resume tomorrow, albeit with a fair amount of wind.

It will be interesting to hear about the Brisbane data...
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/03/2007 15:00

Mostly 8/8 but with moderate WNW until the horrid SW arrived about 3pm and Rose to become Strong With it Remaining predominantly 8/8 as it has continually for the last 3 days bar the wind yesterday.Temp 16 to 22c

Wellington fresh WNW and sunny.22c
Christchurch dry this morning with variable winds and 18 but much colder now with some thunder and some rain with strong S
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/03/2007 16:52

Here although there was no rain it was Windy with Strong SW again and partly cloudy.High well short of the metservices dreamy maximum of 24 and 25 on 1ZB with it 20 no more than 21 out of the wind.Low 15

Wellington Sunny again 21∟ and moderate NNW
Christchurch moderate ENE fine as well and 20c

Cloudy in west north of Taranaki with isolated showers and in the west and far south some cloud,Fine again in the east
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/03/2007 17:53

Fresh to Strong SW again with 8/8 until 2pm then finally it cleared to PC.Low 15 high 21

Wellington Fine sunny High 21,fresh N

Christchurch moderate NE fine and sunny max 22

Fine in most place Except in the west north of New plymouth and in the SW of the SI and south coast
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/03/2007 21:34

Looks like a very sunny month for Wellington and Christchurch with little rains. Invercargill's rainfall total so far is 132mm - most of this fell during a week of SW-W weather. Aucklands current total of 78mm - most of this fell in a day didnt it?

After the cold snap during the 2nd week - looks like summer-like weather with many places having maximas into the low 20oCs.

My brother rang me and said Invercargill had recorded more 20oC+ days for March so far than the whole of Summer 2006/2007.

Probably turning out to be a warmer than usual March (Well- compared to last year when it was the coldest March since 1993).
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/03/2007 06:50

Wellington has had about 220 hrs sun to end-yesterday. That's it for a couple of days - Tasman low moving in closer with high cloud, calm conditions and rain later (little today but tomorrow's may be more significant). Monthly temps should end up about +0.5C for country as a guess, could be a bit more.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/03/2007 21:31

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
...Aucklands current total of 78mm - most of this fell in a day didnt it?
Yes, Auckland Airport recorded 58mm on the evening of the 12th, brought in by NE'ers.

March rainfall to this morning was 81mm (about normal). However, 50 to 70mm is expected around Auckland in the next 24 hrs and thunderstorms late tomorrow may give 50mm in some areas in just 2 to 3 hours. Gale warnings have also been issued for some exposed NE coastal areas.
Quote:
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING.
ISSUED BY MetService AT 7:47 pm 28-Mar-2007


HEAVY RAIN IN NORTHLAND EXPECTED TO SPREAD TO AUCKLAND COROMANDEL PENINSULA AND WESTERN BAY OF PLENTY DURING THURSDAY. ALSO HEAVY RAIN EXPECTED ABOUT THE WESTERN RANGES OF NELSON THROUGHOUT THURSDAY.

A moist northeast flow is strengthening over New Zealand.
Rain is already falling over much of northern New Zealand.
Rain is expected to become heavier in Northland during the morning and heavy falls spread southwards into Auckland Coromandel Peninsula and Bay of Plenty during Thursday afternoon and evening.
Thunderstorms in Northland and Auckland later tomorrow may bring some intense bursts of rain over a few hours.
Heavy rain is also expected in the ranges of northwest Nelson for much of Thursday.

People in the these areas should watch out for rapidly rising streams and rivers. Those North Islanders in affected areas should watch for hazardous driving conditions and surface flooding.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/03/2007 16:43

Wowee - some serious falls there in Northland (Kerikeri Western Hills recorded 419mm in 36 hours), Im so jealous - that sort of rain should be falling on the eastern seaboard of Oz.

Report from stuffnz:-

Floods sweep houses, people away
By Stuff.co.nz and MICHAEL FIELD - Fairfax Media Thursday, 29 March 2007


UPDATED REPORT: Several people and houses have reportedly been swept away in floodwaters, a motel has been buried in a landslide and parts of Whangarei have been evacuated as torrential rain hammers the Far North.


Hundreds of motorists are stranded by rising water and police are dealing with a large number of emergency calls throughout Northland but widespread flooding is hampering rescue efforts.

Police said several people are said to have been rescued after being swept up in floodwaters but there were no reports of loss of life.

Several houses had been inundated by flood waters and police had reports some were swept away.

The Haruru Falls Resort motel, on the banks of the Waitangi River, was one of the worst casualties, hit by both landslides and flooding. Owner Henry Gerritsen said four units were buried under mudslides while several others were filling with water.


"We're frantically trying to rescue everything. It's very bad here."

Gerritsen said he had never seen anything like the volume of rain that had fallen in one day during the 21 years he had owned the resort. Not even Cyclone Bola was as bad, he said.

''I've got 200lb tables that take four men to lift floating in my playground," he said.

Several businesses in Whangarei's Commerce St were evacuated by the Fire Service and Whangarei District Council was advising everybody in the city to head home to avoid traffic jams on flooded roads.

A number of other businesses evacuated their premises voluntarily, council spokeswoman Anne Midson said.

Cliff-top slips are also threatening houses in Opua and police are urgently asking residents in Beechy Road, Franklin Road and Richardson Road to evacuate their homes and go to the Opua Cruising Club.

Glenbervie resident Paulette King, who lives 10 minutes out of Whangarei, said her house was on a hill but everything around was under water. Her husband had only just made it home after hitting floodwaters and a slip and access to their house was cut off.

"We are lucky. We have plenty of meat in the freezer so we'll be fine, but...a few families in our area have had to leave their flooded homes."

Residents of Waipapa are advised that an emergency shelter has been set up at the Waipapa Community Hall; Kerikeri residents at the Kerikeri Ambulance Centre; Kawakawa residents at the Kawakawa Ambulance Centre; Opua at the Opua Cruising Club.

Road closures
SH1 Kamo Bypass north of Whangarei
SH10 Bulls Gorge south of Kerikeri
SH10 Kaeo
SH10 from Maunganui to SH1
SH11 Kawakawa to Paihia
SH1 Whakapara north of Whangarei
SH14 Whangarei to Dargaville - increasing number of potholes and motorists urged to drive carefully or avoid travelling altogether
SH12 through Dargaville down to one lane
Source: Transit New Zealand


Civil Defence is setting up Emergency Centres at Kaikohe and Whangarei.


Far North District Council spokesman Rick McCall said several hundred motorists in the Paihia, Kerikeri, Russell and Puketona Junction areas were believed to be stranded as floodwaters cut off roads in the district.

McCall said emergency services have opened "comfort and emergency stops" for stranded motorists at the St John Ambulance stations at Kawakawa, Kerikeri and Paihia, and contingency plans were being prepared should motorists need emergency accommodation until the roads re-open.

The heavy rain in Northland is reported to be easing but as the front moves down the North Island, further flooding is expected.

Motorists are advised to take care and delay all travel in the Far North.

The flooding followed a 36-hour period where up to three times the monthly average rainfall was recorded. Several roads were closed throughout Northland and a number of people in the Bay of Islands were reportedly without power.

It also caused an evacuation alert at two of the nation's most treasured buildings, the Kerikeri Stone Store and the nearby Mission Station, in the Bay of Islands.

Both were flooded in 1981 and cost more than $1 million to repair.

Metservice weather ambassador Bob McDavitt said that the heavy rain warning for the region was continuing for the rest of Thursday and Friday.

He expected the rain might ease off in the Far North later on Thursday but Coromandel and the Bay of Plenty were likely to be hit by heavy falls as the front moved across them.

The volume of the downpour in the Far North was shown by the Kerikeri western hills recording 419mm of rain in 36 hours.

The average monthly rainfall for March in Northland is only 100mm.

Earlier today, Historic Places Trust staff put down sandbags to try and deflect floodwaters threatening the Kerikeri Stone Store and Mission Station.

Its staff were wrapping important items which could be moved, and laying sandbags in a bid to protect the buildings.

State Highway 10 at Bulls Gorge near Kerikeri was closed by water 500mm deep; State Highway One at Rangiahua was under water; and State Highway 12 near Dargaville was down to one lane.

Flooding had also made traffic marginal at Whangaroa Rd in Kaeo.

Sergeant Christopher Money of the police northern communications centre said high tide was due at 5pm and affected roads were likely to be closed for 12 hours.

During heavy rain, flood debris coming down the river is caught in the narrow bridge across the nearby road like a dam.

A severe weather warning was also issued today for the Coromandel Peninsula, Bay of Plenty and the north of Gisborne.

Driving conditions were expected to be hazardous near the Coromandel and Kaimai ranges.

The weather also caused power outages in five areas around Auckland this morning.

- with NZPA


Ends.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/03/2007 19:30

Yeah, some phenomenal falls up North!

96mm so far here on Waiheke since about the same time last night and still going strong - great for the tanks!
Most of this moisture has hitched a ride from TC Becky via a high altitude jet stream - we're basically sucking it dry!
:p
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/03/2007 20:29

just as well my parents live on a hill
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/03/2007 20:54

Gotta love this moisture!! laugh laugh

Though probably not if your house gets swept away. shocked

Second burst of torrential rain is sliding from the west shortly..
Posted by: Johnoo

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/03/2007 21:59

Yep Just heard it make the news here on the radio amazing stuff you guys seems to have sucked the life out of Becky alright
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/03/2007 09:02

Pretty serious stuff.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4011016a10.html

Some spots will have accumulated close to 500mm in this event.
Posted by: Bryan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/03/2007 10:18

Well, without having to read through all 42 wonderful pages of information, i was wondering what a good and reliable internet site is for New Zealand weather is? I am traveling over to NZ (Christchurch etc) at the end of next week and am wondering what the weather will be *without coming on here and asking the question straight out :p *

Regards
Bryan
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/03/2007 10:53

Ended up with 123mm here on Waiheke - clearing now.

Rains are still falling over the Coromandel Peninsular (to our E) - currently up to 400mm since Wednesday morn.

The storm is now moving down into the Bay of Plenty where Tauranga Airport has already recorded at least 100mm in the last 48 hrs to 9am.

For the same period, Auckland City received about 83mm, while Auckland Airport only recorded 54mm.

Whangarei Airport recorded 283mm in the same period.
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/03/2007 11:00

bryan metservice is a good site for Nz weather forcasts

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/03/2007 12:29

Quote:
Originally posted by Bryan:
Well, without having to read through all 42 wonderful pages of information, i was wondering what a good and reliable internet site is for New Zealand weather is? I am traveling over to NZ (Christchurch etc) at the end of next week and am wondering what the weather will be *without coming on here and asking the question straight out :p *

Regards
Bryan
Hi Bryan

Wouldn't even like to hazard a guess at this stage - NZ's weather is way too fickle at this time of year.

However, suggest you keep an eye on MetVUW\'s 7 Day Forecast Charts which I think are based on GFS. For long range, the South West Pacific option will give you a pretty good idea of the overall patterns.

Also here's an 18 hr Isobaric Forecast Animation . And a great little 24 hr SWP Historic Satellite Animation .

Hope that's of some help. Some South Islanders may have a few more suggestions.
:cheers:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/03/2007 17:12

Wellington temps. got to about 26C today (prob. not the 28C cited on TV!). Good enough for a swim.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/03/2007 09:34

The rains experienced in Northland is being described as a one-in-a hundred year event.

Quite a good month sunshine and temperature wise over most of NZ - Auckland hasnt done too well this month in the sunshine stakes.

My brother rang me from Invercargill and said its been humid with warm N winds atm.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/03/2007 09:44

Yes 'pretty serious stuff' alright...


Near Kerikeri. Photo Kerry Sinclair (NZ herald)


A few pics of the Northland floods from the NZ Herald Photo-gallery
And from Geoff Mackley (also includes shots of the Mt Ruapehu Lahar on the 18th).


Yes, here's an excerpt from a TVNZ story...
Quote:
Weather bomb will go down in history
Mar 30, 2007

Northland's wild weather on Thursday is being described as the worst in 150 years.

Records show it was the biggest single rainfall in the region in such a short time. It experienced a colossal dumping of water in just 36 hours.

The region has been stung by wicked weather many times before, but Thursday's weather bomb will go down in history.

"It was extremely rare," Niwa principle scientist Dr Jim Sallinger says. "We're looking at the figures now and for a one day event between Mangawai, Whangarei and Kerikeri it looks like at least 125 years, and for the two day event it looks like 150 years."

But it is unlikely to be another 150 years before it returns.

Scientists say the El Nino weather pattern is officially over but La Nina could be here within months and that means winter will be wet.

Sallinger says while La Nina brings cold water to the Pacific Ocean, that causes warmer than normal water temperatures around New Zealand and more northerly and north easterly winds.

He says it could also mean more storms, more often, like the one in the Far North.

"From the phenomena point of view it's very exciting, but then again it causes a lot of damage and sometimes threatens lives, so from that perspective it is very serious and costly."
And here's an excerpt from a NZ Herald story quoting basically the same figures, but with a slightly different conclusion -
Quote:
Photos: Storm\'s severity even more unusual than first thought
12:45PM Friday March 30, 2007

...While based on past-climate data, Northland had suffered a one-in-more-than-100-years deluge, Dr Salinger said: "As the climate warms, this is the sort of thing we expect to see more often."

He added: "As climate warming occurs, the atmosphere can hold more moisture and therefore more rain falls and therefore what we have thought of under past-climate data as one-in-100 or more reduces and might be one-in-50 years or 1-in-20 years."
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/03/2007 09:57

Wow - thanks for that Nev - didnt even hear that it could be a 1-in-a-150 year event eek
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/03/2007 10:07

Cloudy and windy today in W'gton - yesterday local temps. ranged from about 26C to 30C. Monthly rainfall should be under 40mm, sun about 230 hrs.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/03/2007 10:55

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Wow - thanks for that Nev - didnt even hear that it could be a 1-in-a-150 year event eek
Except that we probably don't have reliable records that far back confused
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/03/2007 11:30

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Wow - thanks for that Nev - didnt even hear that it could be a 1-in-a-150 year event eek
Except that we probably don't have reliable records that far back confused [/b]
That's not a showstopper (BTW, some places do have continuous or composite records 140+ years old). The statistical distribution in a "stationary" series allows good estimates of probabilities of extreme deviations being exceeded.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/04/2007 06:44

Here's a few excerpts from a 2003 report by the Northland Regional Council ...
Quote:
Natural Hazards affecting Northland

On 19 and 20 March 1981 the Kerikeri basin catchment was subjected to a rainfall event resulting from intense thunderstorm activity. This event exceeded any other rainfall recorded in New Zealand for an 8.5-hour duration. A maximum rainfall amount of 448mm was recorded in the Kapiro catchment, with a recorded rainfall intensity of 174mm in 2.5 hours.

Whether it is due to global warming or simply the heavy rain phase of cyclic weather patterns, Northland is subject to extremely heavy rainfall events and these appear to be occurring more frequently. Another explanation could well be, and there is some evidence, that extremely high intensity but very localised rainstorms have always been a feature of Northland's climate, and have strongly influenced the landform of parts of the region. Because the heavy rainfall events have tended to hit more remote and less populated areas, few reliable records exist. But it is likely that they occur much more frequently than previously thought.

Flooding from rivers is by far the most widespread and most frequently occurring natural hazard affecting Northland. The upper tributaries of Northland's rivers drop steeply from the region's mountain ranges and hill country. Sediment carried by the rivers has been deposited in the lower valleys, and particularly in the tidal reaches, to create floodplains.

While by their very nature, these floodplains would have been subject to frequent inundation by rivers, clearance of bush from the catchments, changes in the river regimes due to increased sediment loads, and changes in riparian vegetation, have increased the frequency of overflows from the channels.

Flooding of the rivers and floodplains has only become a hazard since humans occupied the flood-prone land and erected structures over and beside the rivers. Similarly, flooding of land adjoining the coast and around tidal estuaries by storm surges and exceptionally high tides has only become a problem since that land has been developed for urban or even farming uses. Most towns in Northland are built partly on floodplains and are subject to flooding.
P.S. Very little has been mentioned about the 402mm recorded at 'The Pinnacles' on the Coromandel Peninsular between Wednesday morn and Friday morn.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/04/2007 06:56

At least they stopped trying to farm some of the steep Eastland hill slopes after Bola!

Re Coromandel, must be a case of "less impact". And Coromandel has a more regular diet of very heavy rainfalls - there's a significant portion where rainfall means exceed 2500mm.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/04/2007 12:37

NIWA summary for March:

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0703sum.pdf

Northland event in sharp contrast to most/all of the country in the rest of the month [but see Coromandel as above]
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/04/2007 14:21

Certainly a much warmer month than the summer months smile .

Invercargill had its 2nd warmest March on record so my brother was telling the truth when he said it was far warmer laugh than the summer months although he did mention there was a week of cold and wet SW-W weather around the middle of the month.

*Wow* at Alexandra recording max temps of 30oC + on 6 days of the month.

How would this March rate in terms of among the top 10 warmest Marchs NZ-wide since records began?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/04/2007 17:10

It was +0.9C so not quite there I would guess. Record (1968) was +2.2 on current 30-year mean. Perhaps in the top 20. Invercargill's SW spell was probably balanced by later NE with about average sun (not sure, haven't seen a number yet).
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/04/2007 06:21

I'm a little bemused by the so-called 'tornado' event mentioned in NIWA's March summary...
Quote:
Tornado
Destructive localised winds were attributed to a tornado, which damaged a hall (lifting part of its roof) near Pembroke School in Stratford about 12.45 p.m. on the 21st of March. There was an incredible noise, and debris was seen flying up into the air.
NIWA must've had the snooze button on when they read this dodgy report from a local news reporter. Totally agree with Paul M's assessment ( NZ wx forum ) that this appears more likely to have been a 'willy-willy' type eddy created in the lee of Mt Taranaki, particularly as there was no hint of any thunderstorm activity around at the time.
:rolleyes:
Posted by: Matt Pearce

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/04/2007 06:40

Yeah, without having read anything except that media article, it does sound fairly dodgy...

The statement that it looked like a beautiful day before it hit, and there was no mention of any surrounding stormy looking clouds from the witnesses does make it sound very much like a willy-willy.

Bit odd that NIWA would just include it in their monthly report on the basis of one media report. I guess that's what a lack of decent research will do for you. :rolleyes:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/04/2007 07:34

It does say "were attributed to", which probably gets them off the hook.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/04/2007 06:05

So why did NIWA include this statement in their introduction page?
Quote:
...There were a number of other climate extremes with electrical storms and hail, high winds, and a tornado.
Agree Matthew. It only took me a few minutes to find out what nearby general conditions were like that day and I don't have the resources that NIWA have. Pretty sloppy I thought and it doesn't do their reputation much good.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/04/2007 07:06

You should send them a note. It would also be a good idea to support the eventual reuniting of NIWA and MetService, as the artificial split created by 1980s ideologies was a nonsense and ultimately has spread scarce intellectual resources more thinly. Not to mention the financial objectives set by revenue-greedy ministers. BOM is in a far better position than this country's agencies - stories in this forum seem to indicate they aren't quite perfect, either.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/04/2007 10:31

RWood :- delving further into my grand-fathers weather box - I found this article which got my attention, it was printed in the Bluff (Southland) local paper.

12 March 1953

"With one reservoir empty and the other down to 11 feet level and falling rapidly, Bluff Council has imposed water rationing starting yesterday.

Water rationing which was last imposed in 1951, usually comes into force in June, the situation will be desperate if rainfall is below average over the next few months. Only 3.92in (99.6mm) fell during January and February".
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/04/2007 11:19

That may have been a classic case of mistiming!

March 1953 had 120mm and April 140mm at In'gill Aero
- and March 11th had 1.67" from lon-ago memory! May thru' July were a bit below average but nothing special... wink
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/04/2007 14:52

Report for Southland during February 1940.

"Persistant W winds carried frequent rains to southern districts which experienced a record wet February. In the case of Southland, this was the wettest of any month ever experienced. The registration of 72.74 inches (1847.6mm) at Homer Tunnel gauge was the greatest monthly total yet to be measured in New Zealand. Invercargill recorded 12.1 inches (307.6mm) - the wettest month ever experienced since measurements began in 1900".
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/04/2007 15:43

You must be celebrating that 95mm! smile

299 at Aero that month. Not sure if Jan '84's 277 caught all the days of the month - records lost after things went underwater later!

Of course the record monthly total for NZ has been well and truly upped with the later advent of higher altitude records - 2927mm at Cropp Creek, Hokitika catchment, Dec. 1995.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/04/2007 06:35

Heh heh, sure am celebrating the 95mm fall RWood laugh (The most intense rain since June 2006 for the Bondi area and the highest daily fall since Sept 2006 (107mm).

Ah yes the "January 1984" total is incomplete, 277mm before or during the build up to the big flood, so I think we can safely say based on estimations that January 1984 exceeded that of February 1940 and both probably are the only months to exceed the 300mm mark. My brother happened to be down there when the floods occurred and from what he told me - sounded pretty bad.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/04/2007 08:01

Which reminds me - must put out an APB for Flutterbye on the NZ forum!
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/04/2007 07:46

Any weather events happening in NZ lately? Judging by the lack of weather news - sounds like NZ is having settled weather atm ?.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/04/2007 08:06

Very settled for the most part. Enjoying it. Comments in the NZ forum (Weather NZ) about significant rain around Ch'ch etc. that was supposed to be only drizzle, the other day, but very quiet really. 54.6 hrs sun here in 1st 7 days. So far this year rainfall here is down by about 35% despite a wetter January. smile Did you get my note re In'gill sun etc. there [just checking as you may not be monitoring it very often]?

PS - our well-known friend from Melbourne was having a bit of a go at In'gill on the other NZ forum - you might like to read my responses!
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/04/2007 16:00

We had SW Gales and 8/8 All Day with Horizontal Showers,Temp 11 to 17 and dropped to 12 at about 3,30pm,Yucky

Wellington strong cold S abating in the afternoon and any showers cleared, High 14

Christchurch fine and sunny with light W high 15

Low 5 in Invercargill today and showers remained there and NW in the far south and fine over most of the SI and clearing in Wellington,Showers and Rain in most NI places and cold
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/04/2007 08:11

Most places around Auckland recorded about 2 hrs of sunshine yesterday (a little more here on Waiheke) and, unless you were out on the more exposed harbours, winds peaked briefly at 'Strong' to 'Near Gale' force at best. Temps peaked around 12:45pm at about 17C and dipped briefly to about 10C at around 3:45pm as a squall line and associated thunderstorms and hail passed through and continued into the evening.

Today will probably be the second day this year that Auckland has experienced 'Gale Force' winds (we normally only get about 3 days per year). Temps are around 17C at 10am (NZST).
Quote:
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING.
ISSUED BY MetService AT 7:46 am 13-Apr-2007

SEVERE SOUTHWESTERLY GALES IN THE SOUTHEAST AND EAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND AND ALSO ABOUT AUCKLAND

MetService is maintaining a warning of severe southwest gales today in some exposed coastal parts of Southland, eastern Otago and Banks Peninsula with gusts to 120 km/h at times until late afternoon or evening, along with snow showers to fairly low levels.
Also about Auckland and Coromandel Peninsula southwesterlies are expected to rise to gale this morning in exposed areas, possibly severe gale at times around the middle of the day with gusts to 120 km/h. Gusts of this strength have the potential to cause damage to trees and power lines, and make driving difficult for high sides vehicles and motorbikes.

AUCKLAND AND THE COROMANDEL PENINSULA

Southwesterlies rising to gale this morning and may rise to severe gale for a time between 10am and 6pm in some exposed areas with winds of 70 km/h gusting to 110 km/h. Winds should ease slowly this evening.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/04/2007 15:15

Winds at Gale Force,gloomy and cold with showers most times.Low 9 high 16
Wellington Cold strong S and cloudy.High 11
christchurch fine and cold with strong SSW 11

Cloudy and cold everywhere with showers in most but much of SI coastal places had sunshine apart from Southland and Otago
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/04/2007 08:26

You forgot to mention that the sun came out late afternoon (for Auckland).
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/04/2007 08:56

Not to mention all those airborne pigs :rolleyes:
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/04/2007 14:52

Yes it came out for 5 minute intervals at time before the next down pour and blast.

Today Cold SW gales sometimes WSW but netherless as cold and wicked with many showers,8/8 most times although there were isolated blue patches.Temp 11 to 15c

Wellington Fine and sunny with variable moderate winds.Top temp 16c
Christchurch fine and sunny with light winds and 15c

Low 10 in Invercargill where it was cold and wet and Napier had the high where it was partly cloudy and 20
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/04/2007 08:00

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Today Cold SW gales sometimes WSW but netherless as cold and wicked with many showers,8/8 most times although there were isolated blue patches.Temp 11 to 15c
How can you have 8/8 cloud with isolated blue patches?

Most places around Auckland recorded a T-max of 18-19C on Saturday and there were also no gales recorded on Saturday. In fact MetService lifted all their wind warnings on Friday evening
Quote:
ISSUED BY MetService AT 6:24 pm 13-Apr-2007

WARNINGS NO LONGER IN FORCE

STRONG WIND WARNINGS HAVE BEEN LIFTED FOR: COASTAL PARTS OF SOUTHLAND INCLUDING STEWART ISLAND, EASTERN OTAGO ESPECIALLY ABOUT AND SOUTH OF THE OTAGO PENINSULA, BANKS PENINSULA, ALSO EXPOSED AREAS OF AUCKLAND AND COROMANDEL PENINSULA.
NO FURTHER WARNINGS WILL BE ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT FOR THE ABOVE AREAS.
The rest of your posts appear to be complete nonsense as well, but I think most who follow this thread are probably well aware of that by now.
:rolleyes:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/04/2007 08:20

P.S. Don't you think it's about time you changed that ridiculous excuse for an address-line? Not only is it factually incorrect (as I've said before, Auckland normally only records about 3 days per year where winds reach gale force), but readers might then have an idea where 'here' is.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/04/2007 14:03

Luckilly the winds have abated now and more SSW,earlier they were SSW but then SouthWest and Strong with 8/8 a few hours in the middle of the day.Low 14 High 19
Wellington 17 with strong S becoming colder during the afternoon and cloudy
Christchurch mostly fine in the city with fresh S 17 max.
Cloudy in the east and south of the north island and in the NW with a few showers otherwise SI fine with southerlies apart from the south and north of Kaikoura and BP
Posted by: Seabreeze

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/04/2007 13:06

What is the climate around Napier/Hastings like throughout the year? You never hear too much about them (apart from Napier's architecture).
Also are there any links to NZ Climatic Averages/Statistics?
Thanks smile
NZAAS, did Auckland have gales again today? wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/04/2007 13:45

Quote:
Originally posted by Ezzz:
What is the climate around Napier/Hastings like throughout the year? You never hear too much about them (apart from Napier's architecture).
Also are there any links to NZ Climatic Averages/Statistics?
Thanks smile
NZAAS, did Auckland have gales again today? wink
Their stats are pretty good by NZ standards. Average daily Tmax. values for Napier (Jan, July, year) are about 24.4, 14.1 and 19.3 (nowhere in NZ exceeds the first or third figures by more than about 1C). Humidities are generally lower than at the damper west coast locations, and Napier's 30-year mean rainfall of about 805mm is as low as anywhere in the North Island. Average annual sunshine for all years at Napier is about 2245 hours. Bay of Plenty at Tauranga and Whakatane get a bit more, and Nelson and Blenheim in the "Mainland" get over 2400 hrs. These numbers are of course low compared to most of Australia.

If you like a bit of warmth without excessive heat and a moderate rainfall, Napier is a pretty good choice. The area sometimes gets a run of dull days in persistent easterly conditions.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/04/2007 18:31

No thankgoodness,This is lovely SE weather,Cooler mornings and still sunny days cool smile
Quote:
Originally posted by Ezzz:

NZAAS, did Auckland have gales again today? wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/04/2007 07:05

I think Napier also holds the North Island record for the most amount of annual sunshine hours set in 1994 with 2588 hrs and, like Christchurch in the Canterbury Plains, Napier in the Hawke's Bay region gets the fohn effect from NW'ers.

MetService have a slightly outdated summary of NZ 30 year averages from 1969-1998 here .

Btw, contrary to what NZAAS might have you believe, on Wednesday (18th) the T-max for Wellington was only 12C and in Christchurch it was only 13C. Also, although Auckland's most frequent winds are from WSW, a relatively large proportion of the strongest winds come from the NE.
:cheers:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/04/2007 09:39

You can get a small sample of "free" averages for 1971-2000 from NIWA's website. Any more detail than that costs money.

Some people get their pleasure from moaning - it's up to moderators, if they want to do anything about it.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/04/2007 07:37

Hi RWood. Presumably you mean this NIWA - Overview of NZ Climate link which includes Mean Annual Temps, Rainfall and Sunshine Hours in graphic form, plus a downloadable files link to NZ various averages.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/04/2007 08:57

Rainfall does seem to be quite extreme for Auckland this year going from very dry to wet then back to very dry - Feb had 9mm, March recorded 178mm and so far this month - only 18mm has fallen.

69 hours of sun for Invercargill to date for April.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/04/2007 10:39

Sounds reasonable with the SWers - also remember my note about the EWS (though the differences are more significant in summer). We have 131.5 hrs in the first 20 days, so well above average.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/04/2007 10:40

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Hi RWood. Presumably you mean this NIWA - Overview of NZ Climate link which includes Mean Annual Temps, Rainfall and Sunshine Hours in graphic form, plus a downloadable files link to NZ various averages.
That's right - I will PM you with some info., back soon.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/04/2007 18:20

Looks like a dry April for most of NZ, sunnier as well over the NI. Temps quite warm - Auckland recorded 24oC on Thursday and 22oC today ?? -judging by comments on the other forum. Not much extreme events as well ?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/04/2007 21:03

Rain and cloud over a large area today, and pretty cloudy for many from the 25th. At this stage the rain deficits and sunshine surplus both look to be quite a bit less than they promised to be after 3 weeks.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/04/2007 10:33

Around half the average April recorded for Invercargill (45mm) and sunshine hours at 81 so far.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/04/2007 11:29

Wellington stuck on 167 as of yesterday but sunny now and may crank out another 6-10 today & tomorrow. Rainfall 78 mm, boosted by 24mm in the last 2 days. Before then the 2 main falls of 38mm and about 10mm were at night, so until yesterday the month had seemed quite dry.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/04/2007 11:32

Some phenomenal rainfalls there in Sydney Rainfan smile

Yes, it's been a relatively dry, sunny and warm April for Auckland.

Up to 20mm fell around the region on Fri/Sat night, with up to a further 7mm on Sat//Sun night and more expected tomorrow. The only other major rainfall event was around the 12-13th. NIWA's Owairaka site (a quarried volcanic cone in the central Auckland suburb of Mt Albert) will probably show about 60-70mm by the end of April (9am tomorrow), which is still only about 2/3's of normal. Most T-maxs for the month were in the early 20's (C), so Auckland's days should be slightly warmer than normal, balanced out by slightly cooler nights.

Spare a thought for Hamilton with less than 20% of normal rainfall so far frown
Posted by: Willoughby

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/05/2007 20:57

That low which skirted through Southern Australia also gave some nice rainfall totals across here with several embedded fronts...

Tonight an isolated thunderstorm popped up with the trough 120km north of Auckland and was captured brilliantly by storm chaser Simon Williams from Auckland city with Rangitoto Island in the foreground.

http://www.weatherforum.org.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?p=42612#42612
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/05/2007 06:33

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Some phenomenal rainfalls there in Sydney Rainfan smile

Yes, it's been a relatively dry, sunny and warm April for Auckland.

Up to 20mm fell around the region on Fri/Sat night, with up to a further 7mm on Sat//Sun night and more expected tomorrow. The only other major rainfall event was around the 12-13th. NIWA's Owairaka site (a quarried volcanic cone in the central Auckland suburb of Mt Albert) will probably show about 60-70mm by the end of April (9am tomorrow), which is still only about 2/3's of normal. Most T-maxs for the month were in the early 20's (C), so Auckland's days should be slightly warmer than normal, balanced out by slightly cooler nights.

Spare a thought for Hamilton with less than 20% of normal rainfall so far frown
The NIWA April summary:

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/0704sum.pdf
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/05/2007 06:53

Fantastic shot there Willoughby and congratulations to Simon for making the front page of the NZ Herald with this accompanying story...
Quote:
Fire in the sky
5:00AM Wednesday May 02, 2007
By Keith Perry

Lightning illuminates Rangitoto and the Hauraki Gulf during an isolated thunderstorm last night. Photo / Simon Williams (see photo above)

Stargazers had a spectacular view of Mother Nature's fury when a lightning storm lit up Rangitoto skies last night.

Artist and weather watcher Simon Williams took the photo from his Mt Eden vantage point and captured the moment when the storm hit the Hauraki Gulf, around 6.30pm. It lasted about 30 minutes. To get the image he had to keep the shutter open for between five and 10 seconds and use a tripod. "What was unusual about this storm was that it happened on a fine day and we were able to observe the lightning within the clouds," Mr Williams said. "And with the full moon there was a bit of extra light around."

Bob McDavitt of the MetService said the display was caused by a moist northerly flow ahead of a front. He thought the electrical storm could have been 60 to 100km north of Auckland.

Copyright 2007, APN Holdings NZ Limited
Yes, according to NIWA's April Summary, most of New Zealand had a dry, sunny but cooler than usual April.
Below are some stats of the 5 main centres...

Auckland
T-Mean: 16.1C (-0.2C of norm)
Rainfall: 66mm (62% of norm)
Sunshine: 187hrs (119% of norm)

Hamilton
T-Mean: 14.0C (-0.5C of norm)
Rainfall: 59mm (63% of norm)
Sunshine: 160hrs (98% of norm)

Wellington
T-Mean: 13.1C (-0.7C of norm)
Rainfall: 92mm (92% of norm)
Sunshine: 174hrs (112% of norm)

Christchurch
T-Mean: 11.4C (-0.7C of norm)
Rainfall: 56mm (109% of norm)
Sunshine: 166hrs (103% of norm)

Dunedin
T-Mean: 11.1C (-0.8C of norm)
Rainfall: 36mm (62% of norm)
Sunshine: 106hrs (87% of norm)

cool
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/05/2007 15:22

Just had a look at Metservice readings - Half the average May rainfall has already fallen over Wellington (57.6mm to 9am today, monthly total now is at 67.4mm) - was there a storm or just continuous heavy rain?

Auckland comes out tops re sunshine and temps, I hear its been quite warm in Auckland especially on the 1st (May) with maxs up to 25oC.

Quite a huge contrast between Dunedin and Auckland sunshine-wise. Otago and Southland had less sunshine than normal. New Plymouth has its 3rd sunniest April (220 hrs) since records began in 1905.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/05/2007 15:54

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan (0.0mm to 2/5/07):
Just had a look at Metservice readings - Half the average May rainfall has already fallen over Wellington (57.6mm to 9am today, monthly total now is at 67.4mm) - was there a storm or just continuous heavy rain?

Auckland comes out tops re sunshine and temps, I hear its been quite warm in Auckland especially on the 1st (May) with maxs up to 25oC.

Quite a huge contrast between Dunedin and Auckland sunshine-wise. Otago and Southland had less sunshine than normal. New Plymouth has its 3rd sunniest April (220 hrs) since records began in 1905.
The rain fell between midnight and 6am, but 28mm (half of it) fell between 5am and 6am, with 10mm falling in 4 minutes at around 5.30. It woke me up, with the neighbour's spouting making a hell of a racket. I could grumble about having a series of intense rainfalls or storms at night only here for most of the last decade or more, but too bad...

If the 5-6am intensity were maintained over 24 hrs one would get 672mm, roughly equal to the record 1-day fall in NZ. The hourly record is 109mm at Leigh, May 30 (or 31?) 2001.

That new Plymouth total is probably the country's highest for the month. Not by any means the first time that it has had a monthly total at or near the top for the country.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 07:19

Nev - I hear its been a very sunny, dry and mild to warm start for May Auckland - wise with nothing but sunshine and blue skies since the 1st of May, can you confirm this for me ?
Posted by: eternal rain

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 08:59

geez NZ is turning as horrid as sydney, doesnt it rain much over there anymore? all im hearing is sunny, dry and very warm, poor buggers laugh
Posted by: flip

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 10:03

Quote:
Originally posted by my other name is taken:
geez NZ is turning as horrid as sydney, doesnt it rain much over there anymore? all im hearing is sunny, dry and very warm, poor buggers laugh
Boris you can't generalise an entire country to a city! It may be below average in places but if you take a quick look at the south island they are going for quite heavy rain in the fiordland/westland and expecting falls of up to 180mm possible in places.

Going there in a few weeks can't wait! Hope there is a decent snow outbreak before then though.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 10:11

Quote:
Originally posted by my other name is taken:
geez NZ is turning as horrid as sydney, doesnt it rain much over there anymore? all im hearing is sunny, dry and very warm, poor buggers laugh
Hardly! laugh Truly sunny dry spells don't last all that long anywhere in NZ. Annual possible in the towns ranges from about 1600 hrs to 2450 hrs, ie about 39% of possible to 58%. We don't get our lush scenery from droughts!
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 11:43

My "big bad boss" was over there for work for 2 weeks, only got back last night - he was telling me about how good the weather was in Auckland, he also mentioned that he travelled around Northland and Waikato - great weather, sounds like the North of the NI is doing very well weatherwise compared to other areas.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 11:47

Quote:
Originally posted by my other name is taken:
geez NZ is turning as horrid as sydney, doesnt it rain much over there anymore? all im hearing is sunny, dry and very warm, poor buggers laugh
laugh

Well if thats the case then I better forget about living in Auckland in later years as I was going to move there because of the regular rains, but its not occurring much nowadays judging by reports/data climate. I dont want to live in a place where it doesnt rain much - I want rain - lots of it - I could always move to Westland but wouldnt go down well with my family :rofl:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 12:09

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan (0.0mm to 2/5/07):
My "big bad boss" was over there for work for 2 weeks, only got back last night - he was telling me about how good the weather was in Auckland, he also mentioned that he travelled around Northland and Waikato - great weather, sounds like the North of the NI is doing very well weatherwise compared to other areas.
Think that's a bit of an oversimplification, though they are having a very good run at present. In any longer time scale the "east of the North" plus the usual suspects in the south will get more dry sunny conditions than the "top-zone".
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 17:53

At least its going a little to make up for the last 4 months of last year of cloudy SW and showers wink
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 23:14

Wouldnt surprise me if Auckland got its sunniest May on record - will have to wait and see - I feel Auckland will have a very dry and sunny May - nightime temps will be much lower than usual due to clear skies and lack of cloudy nights/rains, but day time temps well above average.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/05/2007 23:27

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
At least its going a little to make up for the last 4 months of last year of cloudy SW and showers wink
Get your facts right NZAAS - September had 181 hrs, October had 159 hrs, Nov had 201 hrs and Dec had 232 hrs so how could that be cloudy???, Sept had 58mm, Oct had 186mm (Most of which fell in heavy downpours during the 1st week), Nov had 100mm and Dec had 45mm - I would hardly call that cloudy and showery NZASS, trust you to moan about that even though the weather has been quite superb in Auckland :rolleyes:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/05/2007 06:29

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan (0.0mm to 2/5/07):
Wouldnt surprise me if Auckland got its sunniest May on record - will have to wait and see - I feel Auckland will have a very dry and sunny May - nightime temps will be much lower than usual due to clear skies and lack of cloudy nights/rains, but day time temps well above average.
Not sure, you could be on the right track. The current regime is quite favourable for it, a setup that hasn't been seen all that often in recent years. In particular, from 1995-2003 inclusive the northern zones generally missed out on the drier + sunnier anomaly that was generally experienced by much of the rest of the country [central regions particularly so]. We shall see - there are always possible surprises along the way, keeps it interesting of course. smile
Posted by: Blizzard

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/05/2007 14:20

The last two posts have been deleted. Please refrain from personal attacks. Thanks, Blizz.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/05/2007 13:55

South Westerlies and Strong during the day with a few showers,mostly cloudy and yucky low 12c high 16

Wellington showers cleared early with fine weather and fresh cool S.High 14

Christchurch light SSW and fine high 16

Fine over much of the south island apart from the far south and north island clearing in the east and south and fine from Taranaki to manawatu and Bay of Plenty but showers and wind north of New Plymouth
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/05/2007 13:33

Looks like I missed something here - no doubt something to do with NZAA's incessant bogus reports?
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan (0.0mm to 2/5/07):
Nev - I hear its been a very sunny, dry and mild to warm start for May Auckland - wise with nothing but sunshine and blue skies since the 1st of May, can you confirm this for me ?
Hi rainfan, sorry for the belated reply. I've spent most of last week at sunny Bucklands Beach on Auckland's E side.

Generally yes, it's been fairly sunny on most days. Apparently Auckland holds the country's most amount of one day sunshine hours so far this month, with 10.1 hours recorded last Sunday. By contrast, there's mostly strata-cumulus around today though, as there was last Thursday. We had some rain around the beginning of the month and a little very early yesterday morning (2mm here on Waiheke). Nearly all the rainfall so far, including some other isolated areas of barely measurable precipitation, has fallen at night with the sun reappearing during the day.

Fog on Friday 4th also delayed flights in Auckland. Friends of mine flew back from Christchurch that morning, circled right around the Hauraki Gulf, aborted an attempted landing just metres from the ground, then ended up having to bus up from Hamilton (one very long trip).

Check out the last couple of days.
(8.2C at 7:30am here on Waiheke this morning, and Hamilton down to 0C)

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Sat12May

Auckland
19C - 13C,0.6mm
Hamilton
17C - 9C,2.8mm
Wellington
10C - 14C,
Christchurch
18C - 4C,0.6mm
Dunedin
14C - 7C,3.2mm
Invercargill
11C - 7C,9.2mm

MetService 24 hour Airport Obs to9am Sun13May

Auckland
17C - 7C,0.0mm
Hamilton
17C - 0C,0.0mm
Wgtn (Kelburn)
13C - 7C,0.2mm
Christchurch
16C - 3C,0.0mm
Dunedin
19C - 9C,0.0mm
Invercargill
16C - 9C,0.6mm

cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/05/2007 13:47

If you're interested I can provide some more data as per the last message (rain means, sunshine means).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/05/2007 14:53

A little better today in the "wind depatment" the WSW were light but it was 8/8 almost the entire day probably amounting to a total of 20 mins of sunshine in the afternoon.Low 9 high 17
Wellington fine apart from cloudy periods,variable winds.High 17c
Christchurch and Dunedin had 14c and a fresh NE in Christchurch and a WSW in Dunedin.Fine in both.
fine everywhere except in the usual west north of Wanganui and the south coast of the South island
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/05/2007 20:37

See you're still peddling out the same old woefully inaccurate BS there NZASS.

Thanks RWood - I'll PM you.
Rather interesting when you average out NIWA's Auckland figures for the first 4 months of this year - following a fairly cool December, 2007 looks almost normal so far...

Auckland 2007

January
T-Mean: 19.4C (-0.3C below norm)
Rainfall: 58mm (78% of norm)
Sunshine: 220hrs (96% of norm)

February
T-Mean: 19.6C (-0.3C below norm)
Rainfall: 9mm (13% of norm)
Sunshine: 228hrs (115% of norm)

March
T-Mean: 19.5C (+0.9C of norm)
Rainfall: 178mm (188% above norm)
Sunshine: 183hrs (100% of norm)

April
T-Mean: 16.1C (-0.2C below norm)
Rainfall: 66mm (62% of norm)
Sunshine: 187hrs (119% of norm)

--------------------------------------------------

Total for first 4 months of 2007
T-Mean: 18.6C (+0.2C above norm)
Rainfall: 311mm (92% of norm)
Sunshine: 818hrs (106% of norm)

.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/05/2007 07:30

Devil:Can you get my name right please.Can you give some information as well if you think you so right everytime
Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
[QB] See you're still peddling out the same old woefully inaccurate BS there NZASS.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/05/2007 08:31

Total for first 4 months of 2007
T-Mean: 18.6C (+0.2C above norm)
Rainfall: 311mm (92% of norm)
Sunshine: 818hrs (106% of norm)...

For Kelburn the Jan-April numbers are:

T-mean is -0.45C from norm., so rather cool so far.
Rainfall: 76% normal (248mm)
Sunshine: 105% normal or +41 hours (842, normal 801)
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/05/2007 15:21

8/8 Dull again most of the day with Fresh SouthWesterlies Low 13 High 16c
Wellington Fresh NW and cloudy at times High 15c
Christchurch fine and light winds and 18c
Dunedin Fresh WSW and 14 mostly fine till afternoon
Rain in the west of the SI and south coast and windy especially in the SW of the NI and cloudy in all western districts but fine furthur east
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/05/2007 17:43

Thanks Nev and Rwood for those reports laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/05/2007 16:23

Was 8/8 in the morning with fresh SW but fortunately in the afternoon the wind eased off and the temperature rose to 17c Low was 12
Wellington fine with 16 and NW

Fine in both eastern coasts,Wellington,Nelson and BOP,cloudy elsewhere with some drizzle with rain and showers on the SI west coast
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/05/2007 15:56

Gales (no not here!) in the far south today from the west and NW gales in the east of the south island and NW gales in the Wairapa too.
Here the Fresh SW eased back finally to a light Westerly and the sun came out in the afternoon,Temp 13 to 18
Wellington fine with some high cloud 18,fresh N
Christchurch 22 had a strong to gale NW and dry
High in Oamaru 24 low 9 in Invercargill
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/05/2007 15:25

Pretty much the same old radi ra ra,few showers,mostly cloudy,Fresh WSW.Low 13 high 17c

Wellington fine and sunny with N fresh at times 19c
Christchurch fine with moderate WNW 20c
Dunedin cloudy periods in the afternoon fresh WSW 15
Cloudy with rain and showers on the SI west coast and south coasy,Showers in the west of the NI from Levin northwards otherwise fine
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/05/2007 14:46

Wind goes on inspite the loose isobars and closeness to the high centre,SW Rose to Gale Force for a time in the night,eased off till morning then was Back again Becoming Strong at Times for the rest of the day with naturally 8/8 skies.Warm at night though 14 max 18

Wellington Fine again with fresh N at times 18

Christchurch fresh S mostly sunny still and max 17
Fine everywhere apart from continuous cloud especially north of Tekuiti and some cloud in the west south of there with cloud in the SI west and far south.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/05/2007 16:19

Gday Nev, hows the weather been this week? Only 15mm so far at Auckland Airport.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/05/2007 12:43

Quote:
Originally posted by rain where are you???:
Gday Nev, hows the weather been this week? Only 15mm so far at Auckland Airport.
Hi RWAY ???. T-maxs and T-mins this week were mostly above normal despite a week of SW'ers.
Last night was a little cooler in Auckland, at about 9C. Today, clouds about 1/8 clouds (mostly clear skies).

Although quite exposed to the harbour's SW'ers, Bucklands Beach, where I've been helping to paint a friends house, has only been a little breezy at times and we've only lost about 1 hour this week due to the odd light shower. Plenty of sun also - possibly a little more than other areas of Auckland though.

I wonder where NZAAS lives, cause it certainly don't sound like Auckland.

Here's a summary of some official figures. I've used the NZ Herald's more detailed composite Temps, which just happen to closely match those of the airport except for Tuesday which was about 1 cooler. Rainfalls are from MetService's airport site, Sunshine hours are from NIWA's central Auckland site and Max-Winds (not Gusts) are from 1 hourly METARS...

Auckland 24 hrs Obs to midnight

Sun May 13
7.2C - 18.1C
Rain: 0.0mm (to 9am)
Sun: 4.0 hrs
Max Wind: SW 13 kts (Moderate)

Mon May 14
11.7C - 17.2C
Rain: 0.0mm (to 9am)
Sun: 1.6 hrs
Max Wind: SW 15 kts (Moderate)

Tue May 15
14.0C - 18.8C
Rain: 0.0mm (to 9am)
Sun: 1.9 hrs
Max Wind: SW 13kts (Moderate)

Wed May 16
13.6C - 18.9C
Rain: 0.8mm (to 9am)
Sun: 1.9 hrs
Max Wind: W 15 kts (Moderate)

Thu May 17
13.6C - 19.4C
Rain: 0.0mm (to 9am)
Sun: 6 hrs
Max Wind: WSW 19 kts (Fresh)

Fri May 18
14.5C - 18.8C
Rain: 1.4mm (to 9am)
Sun: hrs
Max Wind: SW 16 kts (Moderate/Fresh)

wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/05/2007 15:48

I think W'gton's sun has caught up a bit with Auckland this week Nev - after an ordinary 10-12 days at the start of the month. Using estimates for y'day and today's cloudless conditions I get 91 hrs to the 19th, after only about 52 to 12th.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/05/2007 16:53

Up to the 12th here from the NZ Herald we had 74.2 hrs and is now 91.3hrs which covers to thursday 17th but today should have added more.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/05/2007 19:23

Today it was a nice day and partly cloudy quite warm with light NNE high 19-20 today. smile
Warm in the east of the SI with Christchurch at 22 and Invercargill reached a top of 20 which is quite unusual in May.
Temps well above normal everywhere today.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/05/2007 06:35

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
I think W'gton's sun has caught up a bit with Auckland this week Nev - after an ordinary 10-12 days at the start of the month. Using estimates for y'day and today's cloudless conditions I get 91 hrs to the 19th, after only about 52 to 12th.
Pretty close there RWood. Herald shows 90.4 hrs for Wellington to the 19th and Auckland at 102.5 hrs. Id be surprised if NIWA recorded any sunshine in central Akld yesterday (20th) though, certainly less than 1 hr (despite what NZASS says) and the gap looks like it may close further this week. Oh, and Akld Airport recorded moderate N'erly Max-Winds of 15 kts yesterday.

Looks fairly wild in Wellington last night? Wgtn Aero shows rain with N'erly Max-Winds to 28 kts (Strong to Near Gale) and Gusts to 39 kts. Wgtn's Mt KauKau also showed Max-Winds to 55 kts - that's nearing 'Violent Storm' force! Seems to be easing now though.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/05/2007 08:09

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
[b] I think W'gton's sun has caught up a bit with Auckland this week Nev - after an ordinary 10-12 days at the start of the month. Using estimates for y'day and today's cloudless conditions I get 91 hrs to the 19th, after only about 52 to 12th.
Pretty close there RWood. Herald shows 90.4 hrs for Wellington to the 19th and Auckland at 102.5 hrs. Id be surprised if NIWA recorded any sunshine in central Akld yesterday (20th) though, certainly less than 1 hr (despite what NZASS says) and the gap looks like it may close further this week. Oh, and Akld Airport recorded moderate N'erly Max-Winds of 15 kts yesterday.

Looks fairly wild in Wellington last night? Wgtn Aero shows rain with N'erly Max-Winds to 28 kts (Strong to Near Gale) and Gusts to 39 kts. Wgtn's Mt KauKau also showed Max-Winds to 55 kts - that's nearing 'Violent Storm' force! Seems to be easing now though. [/b]
Yes, it was pretty windy last night, the most I've heard for a few weeks. Our property is fairly sheltered so the gusts aren't severe - I go by the noise from trees uphill from across the road. It was a big contrast to the very light airs of Saturday.

As it's my contention that wind speeds here are a bit lower overall than they used to be, I find that episodes of very strong winds are actually noticed more than in the past. [I have max. daily gust data averaged over monthly periods from 1972 to support my contention].
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/05/2007 06:35

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
...As it's my contention that wind speeds here are a bit lower overall than they used to be, I find that episodes of very strong winds are actually noticed more than in the past. [I have max. daily gust data averaged over monthly periods from 1972 to support my contention].
Hmm, interesting ... think you might be right there RWood. Personally I enjoy a good blow now and then, but I could see the novelty wearing off after a while. laugh

I stand corrected about Auckland's sunshine hours on Sunday - NIWA reports 1.3 hrs in central Auckland. It appears the SW got more than the NE. Just goes to show how varied Auckland's climate can be over a relatively large area, particularly with rainfall figures.

Fairly overcast here on Waiheke yesterday with 2mm from about 4pm - clearing this morning though.
Good rains from the next approaching front expected here from tomorrow afternoon...
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/05/2007 07:59

A reasonably sunny start here but I'm not convinced it'll last. Recent night temps. have been very mild for the time of year.
Posted by: eternal rain

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/05/2007 08:10

nice cloud mass starting to approach from the west, looks nice on the sat pic. smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/05/2007 16:14

Spoke to my brother in Invercargill last night - said they had W gales couple of days ago, 20oC was recorded 2 days ago and its been quite mild than can be expected for this time of the year with no frosts recorded to date.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/05/2007 18:04

Very mild today, especially with the sunny afternoon.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/05/2007 19:51

Turned out nice here on Waiheke and most of Auckland by the looks with T-maxs around 20C and relatively warm nights.

That's all about to change tomorrow though with strong N'erlys, followed by disturbed W'erlys with bands of heavy showers, squally thunderstorms and possible tornadoes ...
Quote:
Issued by MetService at 08:10pm 22-May-2007

HEAVY RAIN ON WEDNESDAY ON THE WEST COAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND, THE RANGES OF NELSON, MARLBOROUGH SOUNDS, TARARUA RANGES AND TARANAKI INLAND TOWARDS THE CENTRAL NORTH ISLAND PLATEAU BRIEF SEVERE GALE POSSIBLE ABOUT WELLINGTON LATE MORNING.

MetService expects an active front to cross the South Island Wednesday morning and the North Island in the afternoon and evening, bringing rain and strong northerlies to many places. The front is followed by a disturbed westerly flow with bands of heavy showers or squally thunderstorms, especiall;y in the west of the South Island. 80 to 150mm of rain is expected between Doubtful Sound and Lewis Pass, also in the ranges of Buller and Nelson, including the Richmond range and the Marlborough Sounds with the heaviest falls near the ranges of southern Westland.

There will probably be 60 to 100mm in the Tararua Ranges and in the hilly country from Mt Taranaki extending inland towards the central North Island plateau, with heaviest falls on Mt Taranaki.

People in these areas are warned that streams and rivers are likely to rise quickly.

In addition, northerly winds may rise to severe gale with gusts to 120 km/h in some exposed parts of Wellington just ahead of the front about late morning on Wednesday.
MetService Tunderstorm Outlook

[img]http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/fobs...M2yz&nc=4109225[/img]


[img]http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/fobs...M2yz&nc=2410225[/img]
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 13:28

Mostly just light rain here on Waiheke today with Temps only ranging between 17C and 18C since 7pm last night and N'erly winds only reaching about 20 kts with gusts to 25 kts.

Winds in Wellington look similar to those described on Sun/Mon night?

In and around Nelson seem to have copped most of the rainfall with about 100mm this morning - most of which fell in less than a few hours causing a few flooding problems.

Full NZ Herald story - Firefighters bail out Nelson homes after deluge
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 14:13

Fairly strong winds, don't know what the peak gust was. Rainfall hasn't amounted to much.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4069949a10.html

Taranaki event as well as shown above - not "weather bombs" of course! The media have another term to play with - and don't understand it at all.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 15:09

Gosh - lucky buggers - we could do with that kind of rainfall here right now.

Critical N airflow responsible for this as RWood has said before. I wonder if Wellington can see right across Cook Strait to Nelson? if so how would one describe standing in Wellington and seeing all the rain clouds sweeping across Nelson? That must be a amazing sight.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 15:15

Still need rain in the E, particularly in the North Island

Wgtn 11am METAR has Aero Max-Winds to 30 kts (Near Gale) with Gusts to 42 kts (78 km/h) and Max-Winds at Mt Kaukau to 53 kts (98 km/h).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 15:29

Probably all that can be seen towards Nelson would be a "black sky" with occasional rain,(if its high cloud in Wellington,From Wanganui and lower NI west coast locations in a N or NE it would be seen like like that to the south where Nelson is
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 16:12

You can see dark skies over the Sounds if there's no intervening low cloud, but Nelson is too far away with the intervening hills looking from the W'gton direction.

In W'gton this event was northerly rather than NE. We didn't get much rain, but low misty cloud gave very poor visibility. NE events certainly occur where it's clear here with heavy rain in Nelson.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 16:22

The Nelson rain was heavy but the overall fall of 98 mm is far from being a record. However a lot of it fell in a few hours. Oakura near N Plymouth copped a fair dose by the sounds of it. I see from some older Met. Obs. that on 24/2/71 (in a month that was otherwise dry and exceptionally hot) New Plymouth had 11.41" of rain, and its airport 12.94".
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 16:31

In one day? Thats a very serious fall of rain. (11.41" = 289.8mm and 12.94" = 328.7mm).
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/05/2007 18:25

Stationary front, lots of heat energy. On 10/3/1990 another one that originated in ex-tropical depression air dumped 338mm on Lepperton and 275mm on Inglewood, 186mm on N Plymouth. If the North Egmont site (1019m ASL, the wettest inhabited NZ one currently on the books) had been open in 1971, it would almost certainly have beaten N. Plymouth and Stratford Mountain House (16.05" on 24th, 31.3" in 2 days). {NZ one-day record is 682mm, 2-day is 1049mm}.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 08:55

Lovely sunny morning here, don't care about a bit of wind.
Posted by: eternal rain

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 08:58

thats some nice 1day rainfall.. just send it W/NW when youre done wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 09:01

Interesting that the Nelson City Council said that the flash flood in Stoke yesterday morning was 'a one-in-50 year event', while the North Island's E coast are experiencing the 'driest May in 30 years' according to NIWA.

In the South Island, Invercargill and the West Coast all reported falls of over 25mm from yesterdays front, while the E coast recorded barley anything at all.

Here's a few North Island 24 hr rainfall figures to 6pm from this mornings Herald...

New Plymouyh: 35.0 mm
Whangarei: 28.0 mm
Hamilton: 9.7mm
Auckland: 4.6 mm
Wellington: 2.4 mm
Gisborne: 0.0 mm
Napier: 0.0 mm

T-mins to about 12C in Auckland this morning. Here on Waiheke it started clear with a little cirrus, few tall cumulus developing now though.
:wave:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 09:36

I'd query that "1 in 50" a bit. In both January 1985 (particularly) and January 1986 Nelson had some serious flooding, though different areas were affected.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 13:51

It was after all the Nelson City Council that said that laugh Perhaps they meant that particular part of the City.

I've also read a few conflicting hourly rain rates, however these figures sound about right...

Of the 98mm of rain recorded in Nelson in the 24 hours to 9am, MetService Forecaster Oliver Druce said that 53mm had fallen in one hour between 8am and 9am."Fortunately it was just for the one hour, some other major floods in the past have been at that level sustained over several hours."

And although New Plymouth recorded 36mm yesterday morning, higher readings around the district, included 68mm on Mt Taranaki and 100mm at Dawson Falls. New Plymouth fire senior station officer Ian Drewery said a heavy downpour around 11am was over in less than an hour.

Source: NZ Herald Story - Flash floods hit Taranaki and Nelson
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Posted by: Matt Pearce

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 14:09

Pretty impressive flash flooding there...thanks for keeping us updated on what's going on over there!
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 18:29

Nice to know there's still a few Aussies interested Matt wink

frown Oops, Invercargill only recorded 2.6mm yesterday, not the 25mm I mentioned earlier.

I see Gisborne Aero recorded 4 mm sometime between 6 and 9am this morning, bringing the months total of 10.2mm equal to that of Napier Aero.

Dunedin Aero still only shows 4mm this month. It also managed a T-Max of 24C on Monday (same day as Invercargill got to 20C).
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/05/2007 19:01

Despite the 58mm recorded in an early morning downpour early in the month the MTD is only about 80mm, may not even reach the monthly average - I would suggest not with the current prognosis.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/05/2007 06:45

Yes, looks like a week of dry SW'ers for the North Island, very little rain in the E'ern South Island and more normal T-maxs and relatively cooler nights ahead.

Auckland has had less than 20% of May's normal rainfall so far and a very dry month around much of NZ.

Fine day with gentle winds in Auckland yesterday. T-mas were mostly about 18-19C and T-mins around 10C this morning. Here on Waiheke - mostly clear with mixed cloud and the odd isolated light shower since dawn.

cool
Posted by: Matt Pearce

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/05/2007 07:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Nice to know there's still a few Aussies interested Matt wink
The fact that I was born and grew up in Auckland for 8 years and then spent 2 years in Wellington kind of helps wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/05/2007 11:57

Ah ha! - a few ex-pats on this forum. smile Are you enjoying the climate over there?

Dunedin aero dropped to about minus 1.5C around 8am this morning eek brrrrrrrrr
Posted by: Matt Pearce

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/05/2007 12:24

Well I've been over here for 15 years now so I'm well and truly acclimatised! I still enjoy going back to NZ from time to time though and experiencing the variability in the weather. smile
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/05/2007 14:48

Unlike the other main centres we had a fresh SW with a few showers low 9 high 17 22KPH
Wellington moderate N 13KPH 17 Fine
Christchurch mainly fine fresh ENE 26k
Dunedin 17 fresh NE Cloudy and dry 20kph
these figures off the metservice site
Showers in the west of both islands but sunny in the east and Wellington and BOP.
Auckland was 7th = with 2 other localities for highest windspeed today out of 39 localities.Max in SW cape 78kph
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/05/2007 15:59

Heard today that this May could be the warmest on record for NZ as a whole. Lack of any details means I'm not sure whether cooler nights for the remainder of the month might scuttle that.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 07:00

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Unlike the other main centres we had a fresh SW with a few showers low 9 high 17 22KPH
Wellington moderate N 13KPH 17 Fine
Christchurch mainly fine fresh ENE 26k
Dunedin 17 fresh NE Cloudy and dry 20kph
these figures off the metservice site
Showers in the west of both islands but sunny in the east and Wellington and BOP.
Auckland was 7th = with 2 other localities for highest windspeed today out of 39 localities.Max in SW cape 78kph
Problem is, aside from poor old Admiral Sir Francis Beaufort probably be turning in his grave, that T-maxs and wind-speeds don't all magically peak at exactly 3pm.

In all 4 main centres Max Winds were moderate, mildest in Auckland and Christchurch and probably strongest in Dunedin, followed by Wellington where winds were stronger at night and quite mild during the day. On Mt Kaukau they were at Near Gale early morn and Strong late evening.

Here's some Temps from the NZ Herald (which match Airport obs) and Wind speeds from METARS...

24 hour Obs toMidnight - Fri 25 May

Auckland
T-min: 8.8C
T-max: 18.0C
Max Wind: SW, 13 kts / 24 km/h at 1pm (Moderate)

Wellington
T-min: 9.6C
T-max:17.5C
Max Wind: N, 12 kts / 22 km/h at 12am (Moderate)
Max Wind: N, 15 kts / 28 km/h at 11pm (Moderate)

Christchurch
T-min: 1.1C
T-max: 15.6C
Max Wind: ENE, 13 kts / 24 km/h at 3pm (Moderate)

Dunedin
T-min: -1.6C
T-max: 17.3C
Max Wind: N, 15+ kts / 28+ km/h at (9am to)12pm (Moderate+)
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 09:17

Invercargill's sunshine total stands at 102 hrs which has exceeded the average of 86 hrs.

Auckland Airport's rainfall total to date is 23mm.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 10:39

There had to be a significant break from SW/W to get 102 hrs that quickly - I'll wait till I see the monthly summaries.

Heard a second-hand comment y'day at a conference that May has a chance of being the warmest yet recorded in NZ. No other detail.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 10:42

I think I rather have the NE and the rain than the annoyingness of showers and SW.We dont even get straight westerlies even anymore.Currenly metservice shows 24kmh SW and 7 other places are beating our speed(highest SW Cape 74kmh WNW)
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 10:59

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
There had to be a significant break from SW/W to get 102 hrs that quickly - I'll wait till I see the monthly summaries.

Heard a second-hand comment y'day at a conference that May has a chance of being the warmest yet recorded in NZ. No other detail.
Warmest May yet NZ-wide ? I cant wait to see this months summary. When was the previous warmer than usual May? Was it 1990? Judging by many comments from Kiwis - it does sound like its been a very milder than usual month.

Since my previous post - Invercargill hasnt yet recorded any frosts, lowest T-min to date is 2oC. I see IVC is expected to have W gales today, wind speed at 12midday is 22km/hr from the NW.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 11:08

So Nev - has it been less windier than usual over Auckland this month? Judging by your reports re winds - doesnt look like its been a very windy month.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 11:34

Warmest May so far was in 1962. My guess is that mean max. temps for the country this May should be a record, but not so sure about mean min (esp.) and overall mean.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 13:03

Nev: you should remember that Kaukau measurements are taken at an altitude of 445m plus mast height. A substantial portion of Wellington real estate is a lot less windy than the airport, let alone Kaukau.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 13:50

Again we had South Westerlies Strong during the middle of the day with the 3 pm metsite showing We had SW at 25kmh which is the 9th equal strongest locality.Skies overcast since 9am and temperature 12↑ to 17c
Wellington again sunny with only moderate variable winds now SSW at 3pm 16c
Christchurch moderate E 15c partly cloudy
Dunedin light NE cloudy with 14c
Windiest SW cape 89kmh
Rain minimal less than 1mm everywhere just a smattering here and cloudy periods and sunshine or lots of cloud
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/05/2007 15:13

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Warmest May so far was in 1962. My guess is that mean max. temps for the country this May should be a record, but not so sure about mean min (esp.) and overall mean.
I see. May 1971 was also very warm as well. A coincidence there Rwood as I had made a post discussing the "Warm May" of 1938 on another forum a few days ago laugh
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/05/2007 11:51

Another glorious day here, possibly even better than yesterday. Clear blue dome, still, mild. S/SW flick may be possible.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/05/2007 12:20

Gales here but no precipitation though with 18
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/05/2007 12:41

At about 2.00pm a fresh SSW swept in - classic dry one, about 4/8 cloud with sunny periods.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/05/2007 13:39

Quote:
Originally posted by rain where are you???:
So Nev - has it been less windier than usual over Auckland this month? Judging by your reports re winds - doesnt look like its been a very windy month.
Today is the first day this month where Auckland Airport actually recorded 'Strong' Max-Winds.

Currently SW Winds at 28 kts (52 km/h) gusting to 42 kts (78 km/h) and climbing.

So far there have only been 4 days when Max-Winds became 'Fresh' and 15 days when Winds were 'Moderate'.
May's average Max-Winds to date are about 24 km/h (moderate) with average Mean-Winds of about 12 km/h.


Heres a couple of other wind events this month which haven't been mentioned before.

On the West Coast, on Friday May 11 at about 1pm, a series of small tornadoes tore off roofs, downed trees, collapsed fences and blew letterboxes from their bases in parts of Greymouth.

And near Tauranga, on Thursday May 3 at about 4pm, a 10m wide tornado raged through a Papamoa building site at up to 100kmh for about 20 seconds. The sh*t really did hit the fan when a portaloo was lifted off the ground and sent crashing into a fence 20m away.


Better go check the clothes line... laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/05/2007 15:06

Here a horrible Gale...At 3pm on the metservice site it was 17 here with a Gale Force SW of 50kmh,the 3rd highest speed in the country at this time,(Cape Rieanga 57k and Nugget point 59k) was the 9th highest= this morning.Skies PC with no rain.Max 18
Wellington had 16 at 3pm with a temporary S change in the afternoon,Max 18 with moderate winds then
Christchurch fresh S and mainly fine,14 currently 3pm
Dunedin 10 at 3 oclock with strong SW.
Sunny and clear most places but cloudy north of Wanganui in the west and about Buller,Odd shower in the south
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 08:13

"Here a horrible Gale"
Only 'Gales' recorded were at the outer coastal headlands of the Manukau Harbour or Hauraki Gulf.

"At 3pm on the metservice site it was 17 here with a Gale Force SW of 50kmh,"
Winds of 50 km/h at 3pm is only 'Strong' and 52 km/h is 'Near Gale', so only 'Strong/Near Gale'.

"the 3rd highest speed in the country at this time,(Cape Rieanga 57k and Nugget point 59k)"
What about Slipper Island 59km/h, Port Taharoa 57km/h, Waitangi 54km/h and Le Bons Bay 50km/h...?

"this morning.Skies PC"
Politically Correct?

"Wellington had 16 at 3pm with a temporary S change in the afternoon"
The change from N to SSE at about 2 pm was permanent.

"Max 18 with moderate winds then"
Winds of 39 km/h at 3pm are 'Fresh/Strong' and Wellington Airport was at 19.6C around 1pm.

"Christchurch fresh S and mainly fine,14 currently 3pm"
Winds of 24km/h at 3pm is only 'Moderate' (T-max 17.3C at 4am).

"Dunedin 10 at 3 oclock with strong SW."
Winds of 32km/h at 3pm is only 'Moderate/Fresh'
However, at 9am WSW Winds were at least 57 km/h, with Gusts to 100 km/h which is 'Near Gale'!

:rolleyes:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 09:24

As earlier - there was a short news item about May possibly being the warmest on record for NZ, with an overall departure of about 2C up to about 26th (I think). However the more S/SW flows around today and some coolish nights may put paid to that.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 09:46

NZAAS - I dont see why you insist on keeping making "false claims" - its so vexatious nowadays and its not entirely fair on "Nev" to keep on counteracting your "claims".
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 09:54

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
As earlier - there was a short news item about May possibly being the warmest on record for NZ, with an overall departure of about 2C up to about 26th (I think). However the more S/SW flows around today and some coolish nights may put paid to that.
Could you put down the link to this article? I'm very interested in reading more about this smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 10:01

Unfortunately it was a radio item - haven't seen anything in print yet. Will keep looking!
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 10:18

72kph call it no wind? Thats what the herald today says.You are the false one mad
Quote:
Originally posted by rain where are you???:
NZAAS - I dont see why you insist on keeping making "false claims" - its so vexatious nowadays and its not entirely fair on "Nev" to keep on counteracting your "claims".
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 10:23

Wheres your figures from then?
Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
[b]"Here a horrible Gale"
Only 'Gales' recorded were at the outer coastal headlands of the Manukau Harbour or Hauraki Gulf.

"At 3pm on the metservice site it was 17 here with a Gale Force SW of 50kmh,"
Winds of 50 km/h at 3pm is only 'Strong' and 52 km/h is 'Near Gale', so only 'Strong/Near Gale'.

"the 3rd highest speed in the country at this time,(Cape Rieanga 57k and Nugget point 59k)"
What about Slipper Island 59km/h, Port Taharoa 57km/h, Waitangi 54km/h and Le Bons Bay 50km/h...?

"this morning.Skies PC"
Politically Correct?

"Wellington had 16 at 3pm with a temporary S change in the afternoon"
The change from N to SSE at about 2 pm was permanent.

"Max 18 with moderate winds then"
Winds of 39 km/h at 3pm are 'Fresh/Strong' and Wellington Airport was at 19.6C around 1pm.

"Christchurch fresh S and mainly fine,14 currently 3pm"
Winds of 24km/h at 3pm is only 'Moderate' (T-max 17.3C at 4am).

"Dunedin 10 at 3 oclock with strong SW."
Winds of 32km/h at 3pm is only 'Moderate/Fresh'
However, at 9am WSW Winds were at least 57 km/h, with Gusts to 100 km/h which is 'Near Gale'!

:rolleyes: [/b]
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 10:27

Who is right about Wellingtons temperature? Met service at 18 you at 19.6 or TVNZ 21?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 10:51

The TVNZ 21C is one from a carefully selected site, like so many they use for the towns, so I don't give it credibility. Kelburn recorded 18.8C max. to 4pm - that should have been the day's max. Airport despite its wind is usually a little higher than Kelburn so 19.6 from there would seem OK.

Years of records from various spots suggest that Kelburn is a reasonable proxy for W'gton city overall if you allow for altitudes - it's mean would be just slightly lower than an average of lower and higher suburbs and city. The warmest populated spots would have overall means up to 1.0C higher, the coolest ones up to about 0.8C lower.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 11:56

Very sunny day in Auckland today. Currently 15C. T-mins around 10C and going for a high of 17C. SW'ers did actually 'magically' peak around 3pm yesterday and abated by last night - just Gentle S'erly breezes atm.

The Max-Gust of 72 km/h reported in the Herald would have been recorded at the same time as the Max-Wind - the Max-Gust of 78 km/ph was recorded about 1 hr earlier. Agree with you about Wgtn's temps (and winds) RWood.


24 hrAirport Obs to midnight


Auckland - Sat May 26
14C ~ 18C, 0.0mm, 3.1 hrs Sun
Max Wind: SW, 17 kts / 32 km/h (Moderate/Fresh)

Wellington - Sat May 26
13C ~ 16C, 0.0mm, 6.3 hrs Sun
Max Wind: SW, 16 kts / 30 km/h (Moderate/Fresh)

Christchurch - Sat May 26
4C ~ 17C, 0.0mm, 7.8 hrs Sun
Max Wind: ENE, 16 kts / 30 km/h (Moderate/Fresh)

Dunedin - Sat May 26
0C ~ 17C, 0.0mm
Max Wind: W, 9+ kts / 17+ km/h (Gentle+)


Auckland - Sun May 27
14.2C ~ 18.1C, 0.0mm
Max Wind: SW, 25 kts / 52 km/h (Strong/Near Gale)
Max Gust: SW, 42 kts / 78 km/h

Wellington - Sun May 27
10.9C ~ 19.6C, 0.0mm
Max Wind: NNE, 19 kts / 35 km/h (Fresh)
Max Wind: SSE, 21 kts / 39 km/h (Fresh/Strong)

Christchurch - Sun May 27
4.8C ~ 17.3C, 0.0mm
Max Wind: S, 13 kts / 24 km/h (Moderate)

Dunedin - Sun May 27
3.3C ~ 14.7C, 0.0mm
Max Wind: WSW, 31+ kts / 57+ km/h (Near Gale+)
.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 17:28

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
72kph call it no wind? Thats what the herald today says.You are the false one mad
Quote:
Originally posted by rain where are you???:
[b] NZAAS - I dont see why you insist on keeping making "false claims" - its so vexatious nowadays and its not entirely fair on "Nev" to keep on counteracting your "claims".
[/b]
Geez its like talking to a brick wall :rolleyes:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 17:30

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Unfortunately it was a radio item - haven't seen anything in print yet. Will keep looking!
Ah thanks for that anyway Rwoodie - wont be long before the May climate summary is out laugh
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 18:19

It's official - NIWA says May is on track to be the warmest in 20 years, if the warm weather continues that is... laugh
Quote:

Ruapehu screaming out for snow
May 28, 2007

Just three weeks out from the opening of Mt Ruapehu's ski season, operators are looking at bare slopes.

Staff at the mountain are hoping for southerlies to bring some cold weather to kick start some sort of snow base.

By this time last year snow had already closed the Desert Road.

NIWA climatologist Alan Porteous says most parts of New Zealand are more than a degree warmer than average this month. He says if the warm weather continues, May will be on track to be the warmest in 20 years.

Source: TVNZ / Newstalk ZB
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 18:40

What about May 1990? That year had a mean temp similar to 1987.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 19:49

Actually 1999 was warmer than either, and was equal second warmest with 1950, so I think the "twenty years" is just a phrase grabbed from midair. We'll soon know. My totally nonscientific guess is to miss the record.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/05/2007 20:30

Re the high winds in Dunedin yesterday morning, the Otago Daily Times reports that...
Quote:
Gusts of wind reaching more than 70 knots (130 km/h) lifted four 12.2m shipping containers off Port Chalmers multipurpose berth and into Otago Harbour about 10am yesterday.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/05/2007 06:55

Think we might still be struggling to break some temp records for May.

Clear skies here on Waiheke and down 7.2C this morning. Auckland Airport down to at least 5C this morning, Dunedin at least -1.0C, Christchurch 1C with the usual fog and Wellington bucking the trend with about 10C.

Here's a quick summary of few more media quotes from NIWA today ...
Quote:
New Zealand is heading for its warmest and driest May on record.

As of yesterday, the average temperature for May was 12.6C, almost 2C higher than the average of 10.7C.

The warmest Mays on record were those in 1962 (12.3C), (12.2C) and 1950 (12.1C).

There were also many sites around the country where lowest-ever rainfall records were likely to be set, mostly down the east coast.

They included Cape Reinga, parts of Auckland, Taupo, the Bay of Plenty, east coast and Wairarapa and in the South Island at Kaikoura and parts of Canterbury and Otago.

Farmers in the eastern North Island have had only 3mm of rain this month, the lowest rainfall in May for 25-years.

If the weather follows NIWA's predictions, the same conditions will prevail and ten months of dry weather could turn into a decade. It will take a number of heavy falls to bring soil moisture levels back to their normal level.

Parts of New Zealand, such as Gisborne and the Wairarapa, had also had more sun, but only a handful of weather stations reported daily sunshine.

Anticyclones sitting out to the east of the North Island producing warm northwesterly airflows across the country were bringing the good weather.

The relatively mild weather had been predicted to last through to July.

Source:
NZ Herald - Warm, dry May heads for the record book
newstalkzb - No relief in sight for Hawke\'s Bay farmers
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/05/2007 07:33

Oops sorry frown , of course that should have read:
"The warmest Mays on record were those in 1962 (12.3C), 1999 (12.2C) and 1950 (12.1C)."
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/05/2007 08:01

With only a few days left and Met. Service forecasts showing no colder outbreak in the next few days, this record should hold.

Re sun - many places are comfortably exceeding monthly sun averages already.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/05/2007 12:19

I think if temps were as forecast, we would probably end up with May T-mean of 12.7C. However, it may be a little cooler than forecast in most of the main centres today.

Incidentally, Hamilton was on -2C this morning and I see Kelburn did also get below norm at 7C.
cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/05/2007 12:57

Today here has been a cloudy bleary "spoiler" - close to the top of my "dislike" list. Only a few fleeting glimpses of sun (unless I missed some before 9am). As the high weakens it may revert to sunshine tomorrow.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/05/2007 08:22

I was right - it's sunny this morning with only a few scattered bits of cloud.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/05/2007 09:07

Its near the top of my dislike list now 7/8 cloud but at least no dew today 10c overnight here not the 5 they said.Hopefully the easterlies will push it south again.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/05/2007 14:40

Metservice shows at 3pm Temp was 15 and was a max of 16c today and lucky if 30mins of sun recorded here,probably more in eastern suburbs and Waiheke Is.Low here was 10c.Wind light SSW

Wellington mostly sunny with moderate N 16c at 3pm
Christchurch 15 at 3pm.
Dunedin light winds 20
Winds light generally over the country but strong in Southland.Lots of cloud south of Dargaville to Levin in the west and most of the SI west coast otherwise fine and sunny
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/05/2007 07:38

From the NZ Herald for Tues 29th (Sunshine anyway)
Auckland temp 16.4 9.2 SW 24K sun 9.4
Wellington 16.6 10.3 N 41 sun .6
Christchurch 16.6 1.1 E32 S 7.2
Dunedin 19.8 -1.1 NW 13 no reading
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/05/2007 08:13

Sun returned y'day, should have been at 137.4 up to 29th. Yesterday would bring us up to about 145. Today sunny in central and eastern city, cloudy to west and north so far.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/05/2007 16:02

119.1 hrs for Invercargill so far to end yesterday - if this is correct then possibly depending on the total today - could be either be the sunniest May since 1956 (123 hrs) or 1951 (128hrs).
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/05/2007 17:01

Seems a little surprising though credible - remind me to send you sometime the details of the two sets of measurements (C/S data and the AWS data that started a few years back). Over that period the AWS has been showing about 75-85 fewer hours per year. NIWA is maintaining parallel sets of obs. for several years at a few sites for analysis purposes.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/06/2007 12:11

Report from the Southland Times - warmest May ever at Invercargill since records began.

South warms to winter more than summer
The Southland Times Saturday, 2 June 2007

It might have been the first day of winter yesterday but temperatures in the south were still higher than the first day of summer.

Temperatures in Invercargill were about 1.5degC higher on the first day of winter yesterday than they were on the first official day of summer, on December 1.

45 South weather services manager Andy Fraser said this was uncommon but did not indicate temperatures overall were getting warmer.

While yesterday's official temperature would not be obtained until this morning , Mr Fraser said it was 15degC in the city at 3pm, which could be assumed to be the day's high.

On December 1, the high was 13.5degC.

However, Southlanders should not to get too comfortable with the mild conditions, with a cold front headed to the south next week bringing wintry conditions, Mr Fraser said.

Invercargill's mean temperature in May was 10.3degC, the highest since records began, and the mean daily minimum was 6degC, beating the previous highest of 5.1degC in 1999. May was also one of the five windiest months in the past 12 years.

In Queenstown, Coronet Peak is pushing ahead to open next weekend despite bare tussock slopes after the wettest May on record.

Queenstown weather forecaster David Crowe said yesterday that snow was forecast to 800m today.

"We're not expecting a great amount but every little bit helps," he said. "I have never seen the mountains in May so bare of snow in 45 years of living here."

Mr Crowe said more snow had fallen in December and January than in May. Another cold front was expected to reach Fiordland this afternoon before moving into the Southern Lakes. After showery weather and a "little bit" of snow this weekend, temperatures would drop closer towards weather conducive to snow-making, he said.

Coronet Peak manager Hamish McCrostie said he was hopeful the snowguns would be working this afternoon, and overnight lows of around minus 6degC were expected.

"Things are looking good right through the week and our June 9 opening is still a goal. Good things come to those who wait," he said.

Contrary to other parts of Otago, which faced dry and even drought conditions, Queenstown had recorded the wettest May since 1870, he said.

Further north, the first day of winter was more than 6degC warmer in Christchurch than the first day of last summer.

Metservice weather ambassador Bob McDavitt said Mainlanders might have to get used to topsy-turvy seasons because the aberrant currents that brought chilly water and those rogue icebergs from Antarctica to New Zealand, instead of their usual destination near South Africa, were predicted to become more common.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/06/2007 14:41

Q'town must have had some NW/W "main divide overspill" rain events. Even Alexandra has some of its highest monthly totals in this fashion.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/06/2007 14:59

Here's a few figures from the North Island's East Coast and Hawke's Bay...


Gisborne had the lowest May rainfall for the past 52 years and the warmest May since 1937, with 6.8mm of rainfall and an average T-max of around 21C (or about 3C above normal).

So far this year Gisborne has had just over a third of the average rainfall that could be expected, or just under 156mm instead of the 5-month average of just over 430mm.

In Hawke's Bay, no rain had been recorded since May 8. Soil moisture was 123mm in deficit, meaning it would take 123mm of rain just to saturate the soil.

Napier airport had the warmest and driest May since records began in 1951, with a mere 4mm of rain (or 7% of normal) and a T-mean 13.3C (or 1.6C above normal),

Wairoa had the warmest and driest May since records began in 1992, with 8mm of rain (or 6% of normal) and a T-mean of 13.6C (or 1.6C above normal).

Mahia had the warmest and driest May since records began in 1991, with 10mm of rain (or 7% of normal) and a T-mean 14.5C (or 2C above normal)

source:
Gisborne Herald - Driest May in 52 years
Hawke's Bay Today - It\'s official: May bone dry
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/06/2007 15:07

It's not all doom and gloom for the ski season though ...
Quote:
Weather Change Brings Snow To Canterbury
2:36 pm, 02 Jun 2007

The change in weather could bring some much-needed snow to South Island ski fields.

MetService says a southeast change has already brought snow to the Canterbury high country on Saturday and more is forecast for the evening.

Mt Hutt ski manager David Wilson says the fall may not be enough to open the slopes but it should provide the area with a good base.

He says the covering, combined with the dropping temperature, will allow snow-making machines to get to work on the slopes.

The first cold temperatures of winter follow the warmest May on record, with daytime temperatures still in double-digits in most areas.

NewsRoom 2007
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/06/2007 18:50

Gosh Nev @ EC of NI figures, I did hear about it but didnt realise it was that bad - am surprised at the length of it as I assumed it only started from April. Very similar to what Syd experienced (May - wise).

I see AKL is forecast to have at times showery and windy W - SW weather for the next 7 days - will give you much needed rains for once if it actually occurs smile .
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/06/2007 19:24

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Seems a little surprising though credible - remind me to send you sometime the details of the two sets of measurements (C/S data and the AWS data that started a few years back). Over that period the AWS has been showing about 75-85 fewer hours per year. NIWA is maintaining parallel sets of obs. for several years at a few sites for analysis purposes.
Interesting because looking at the sunshine hours for IVC - all years since 1992 (bar 1993) have exceeded the average - quite significantly in some years. Does the readings that's put out in the NIWA monthly summary & data come from the AWS ? Where does NIWA have it's "other sites" at ?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/06/2007 07:12

The hardcopy NIWA summary publishes both totals. References in the online reports would be to the "old" C/S series. It also has a pair of sites at Kaitaia - the AWS records less there as well. And also allegedly at Paraparaumu but there's only one set of numbers being printed for there. IVC's numbers being above so consistently is slightly doubtful but it's still unclear. When more places finally do a conversion we might get a better handle on it. Several places that have switched to AWS are getting higher numbers because the old sites had poor or deteriorating exposures or equipment. The total numbers of AWS sites would be about 15-20. In some cases there was a long gap to the former records (over 20 years for Tekapo), and in several more the AWS records are the first ones at the site.
Posted by: WelloMeteo

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/06/2007 14:21

Off current topic, but on general topic - just found out I will be speaking at a conference in Dunedin end of November this year, and see that 30/11/2006 temps were 6 - 11 eek Haven't experienced those sorts of temps since I lived up in the Pyrenees. Is this the average for that time of year? Sheesh - what's winter like!
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/06/2007 15:09

Guess knowledge of NZ climates is not advanced in your parts! That must have been a fairly cold day. Here are a few sample average max/min for November (average for the end of the month would be about 1C higher):

Ch'ch city 19.2 8.9
Dunedin (Musselburgh) 16.0 8.6
Dunedin Aero 17.5 6.3

That said, temps. can fluctuate considerably. You're in temperate zones below 45S there, not the wimp's world! laugh
Posted by: WelloMeteo

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/06/2007 15:18

That's looking a little healthier (but not by much)! I did a google for the temps I got, and found wunderground.com which is where I found that figure - I picked 30/11/06 randomly, but it does seem that it was not quite an average day now that I check other days. Yeah, I guess I am a wimp when it comes to cold - but hey, I can be found outside in summer happily mowing at midday in 34 degrees with 80% humidity laugh
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/06/2007 15:30

It's not unduly cool for the latitude - obviously cooler than equivalent NH places in western Europe (no Gulf Stream) but much warmer (year overall) than the eastern parts of the main NH continents at those latitudes.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/06/2007 13:01

I see Christchurch and Dunedin both shared T-mins of -4C this morning (and T-maxs of 11C yesterday).

A slight contrast to Christchurch's first day of June, when intervening fohn NW'ers played havoc with temps and wind-speeds - at 2:40am that morning, Christchurch aero reported one Strong NNW'er pushing the mercury up to 20C (equal to the arvo's T-max).

N'erlys turning SW in Auckland atm after a few showers and sunny fine breaks over the last couple of days. Perhaps a little sunnier here on Waiheke with only about 6.5mm to date and very pleasant 15C afternoon.

Here's a quick main centre summary of the month so far...

MetService 24 hour Obs to9am

Auckland Airport
01 Jun, 16C ~ 6C,0.0mm
02 Jun, 17C ~ 10C,0.0mm
03 Jun, 19C ~ 9C,3.4mm
04 Jun, 16C ~ 8C,10.2mm

Hamilton Airport
01 Jun, 16C ~ 3C,0.0mm
02 Jun, 17C ~ 8C,3.4mm
03 Jun, 18C ~ 4C,10.2mm
04 Jun, 15C ~ 4C,3.2mm

Wellington (Kelburn)
01 Jun, 14C ~ 12C,0.0mm
02 Jun, 14C ~ 12C,9.6mm
03 Jun, 15C ~ 8C,0.8mm
04 Jun, 10C ~ 4C,0.4mm

Christchurch Airport
01 Jun, 20C ~ 8C,0.0mm
02 Jun, 20C ~ 2C,0.0mm
03 Jun, 17C ~ 3C,0.2mm
04 Jun, 11C ~ -4C,0.0mm

Dunedin Airport
01 Jun, 16C ~ 7C,3.0mm
02 Jun, 12C ~ 7C,n/a mm
03 Jun, 9C ~ 0C,2.8mm
04 Jun, 11C ~ -4C,0.0mm

Invercargill Airport
01 Jun, 16C ~ 6C,0.2mm
02 Jun, 15C ~ 7C,7.6mm
03 Jun, 8C ~ 5C,5.4mm
04 Jun, 10C ~ 1C,2.0mm

cool
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/06/2007 13:54

Looks like a potentially extreme cold outbreak in NZ longitudes in the later part of this week - both EC and GASP are suggesting thicknesses below 524 and 850 HPa temperatures near or below -6 over most of the South Island (and potentially some of the North). If this came off it would mean snow to sea level or close to it.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 06:31

Yes, could be an interesting this week in the South Island, with high winds for both Islands, thanks to that Gran'daddy High' in the Great Australian Bight.

Mount Hutt skifield got 25-30cm on Saturday night and 60 snow guns now in operation - the mountain needs another 30cm before opening next weekend, although it looks like Saturday's S'erly blast wont ease until Sunday.

Coronet peak was also expected to open next Saturday but had only received only about 5cm snow during the weekend.
smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 11:04

May summary is on the NIWA website now:

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/mclimsum_07_05

To nitpick Nev: W'gton sun total should be 148 (not 145), 1 less than Auckland. Ch'ch was further ahead.
The Hamilton AWS has persistently had a lower % of normal than Auckland since it was installed - time will tell whether the old means from the manual equipment were a little high, or alternatively the new site is a bit disadvantaged

rainwhereareyou???: In'gill's unusually high 122 hrs is mentioned. Will be interested to see what the AWS got.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 16:42

smile

In IVC's case - definitely the sunniest May since 1956 (123 hrs), also 5th consecutive sunnier than avge May with last 2 yrs exceeding 100 hrs.

Looks like the dry, warm & sunny weather has now given way to cold, showery SW weather (Im so envious of my brother - he'll be having a ball!).

To 9am today the monthly total (for IVC) stands at 30mm with 14.8mm falling in 24 hrs to 9am today.

IVC's forecast - certainly a lot more rain & bitterly cold temps to last for a few more days :-

Wednesday
Occasional showers with gale sou'westers.
Max 10oC & Min 6oC

Thursday
Showery with strong & cold sou'westers.
Max 9oC & Min 1oC

Friday
Sleety showers with gale sou'westers.
Max 7oC & Min 2oC

Saturday
Showers and strong, cold sou'westers easing
Max 6oC & Min 2oC

smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 16:53

Re May 2007 summary for NZ (Main centres only) - am surprised that CHCH only recorded 160 hrs of sun considering NW - W winds prevailed with around 15 hours difference from AKL and WGT's sunshine totals. CHCH recorded the highest positive departure from average temps. WGT's rainfall was below avge but the wettest of all 5 main centres.

I havent yet constructed AKL's data for Sunshine, rainfall etc - will try and do it once I get some free time but that wont be likely for a while.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 18:46

They had a few dull days near the start of the month I think - and NW can produce "arch" cloud in the lee of the Alps. Still, a good total.

What are you using as you base AKL data? Be aware that there are problems at various points in the sunshine records - I can give you details of what I consider to be anomalies in a later post.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 19:35

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
...To nitpick Nev: W'gton sun total should be 148 (not 145), 1 less than Auckland...
Hmm, could you elaborate, as the '145 hrs' for Wgtn seems to match the last daily May total published in the NZ Herald, so can't just be a typo?

I wonder why there's no mention this month of May's 2 reported tornado events frown

Auckland's driest May ever recorded - wow! shocked
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 19:44

145 was the total to the 30th. 31st had 3.0 hrs - the Herald's total to 31st should have appeared on the 2nd. The printed version (Climate Digest) will have the right total. A similar mistake occurred in the online report last November.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 21:01

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:

What are you using as you base AKL data? Be aware that there are problems at various points in the sunshine records - I can give you details of what I consider to be anomalies in a later post. [/QB]
eek just had a quick glance at AKL's data - quite a lot of different sites.

Sunshine - Albert Park 1909 - 1955
Mechanics Bay 1950 - 1962
Auckland City 1962 - 1990
Mangere 1995 - 1998
Whenuapai Aero 1995 - 2000

Rainfall - Albert Park 1853 - 1994
Auckland City EDR - 1995
Owairaka - 1995 - 2000
Mangere - 1995 - 1998

Certainly not one of the best in reliability of sites/long term records (Apart from Albert Park rainfall data).

If you could give me all sites/exact dates they opened/closed - that would be great. Thanks.

:cheers:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/06/2007 21:36

Ah yes, you're right RWood - the Herald did show 3.0 hrs for Wgtn on the 31st, but the accompanying total (as with several other towns) had been zeroed.

However, by the same token, the Herald also reported 7.5 hrs for Auckland on the 31st alongside a total of 156.6 hrs (149.1 + 7.5 = 156.6).

And for Christchurch, 0.4 hrs was reported on the 31st which would have brought the Herald's zeroed total to 160.5 hrs.

Go figure? confused
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/06/2007 06:46

Not profound programming to get this sort of thing right! A longstanding frustration for me has been the absolute refusal or inability of Wellington newspaper(s) throughout its/their whole history to admit that there are 2 days in a weekend - at no time have they printed data or accumulated totals for both days. mad Many other papers have managed this trick! Most of the reports are customised for them by MetService now, so they could easily request that it be done.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/06/2007 06:50

Report from todays Southland Times (Invercargill) - gales / heavy showers causing havoc on the coast.

For a picture - click on the link below : -

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southlandtimes/4084868a6011.html

Wednesday, 6 June 2007

Strong winds began to make their presence felt in the south yesterday, with MetService meteorologists predicting conditions will only get worse.

An errant trampoline led to Bluff's fire brigade being called out to a McGorlick St house after wind picked it up and dropped it on the roof of a neighbouring house.

Bluff chief fire officer Bill Gold said winds reached gale force in the port town yesterday and prompted a second fire call 11 minutes after the first when power lines were damaged by wind at the intersection of Elizabeth and Henderson streets.

The MetService issued a severe weather warning for strong winds over eastern parts of Southland and Otago yesterday, with gusts of about 110kmh forecast in exposed places between the Catlins and the Rock and Pillar range.

The southerly blasts come after an unusually warm May nationwide and herald a hurried arrival of winter. While the mercury at Invercargill Airport reached a high of 11degC yesterday, the wind-chill factor stripped that temperature back, making it feel like 3degC outdoors, MetService data said.

MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt said the weather had entered a windy phase this week.

"Strong and sustained winds will peak during the passage of each cold front."

South-west gales were expected to intensify today in Southland and eastern Otago, he said.

There was little improvement forecast for tomorrow, with cold snowy south-westerly winds forecast to reach the South Island.

The strong winds and dropping temperatures would bring an increasing risk of exposure to livestock, Mr McDavitt said.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/06/2007 07:25

Quote:
Originally posted by rain where are you???:
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Originally posted by RWood:

What are you using as you base AKL data? Be aware that there are problems at various points in the sunshine records - I can give you details of what I consider to be anomalies in a later post.
eek just had a quick glance at AKL's data - quite a lot of different sites.

Sunshine - Albert Park 1909 - 1955
Mechanics Bay 1950 - 1962
Auckland City 1962 - 1990
Mangere 1995 - 1998
Whenuapai Aero 1995 - 2000

Rainfall - Albert Park 1853 - 1994
Auckland City EDR - 1995
Owairaka - 1995 - 2000
Mangere - 1995 - 1998

Certainly not one of the best in reliability of sites/long term records (Apart from Albert Park rainfall data).

If you could give me all sites/exact dates they opened/closed - that would be great. Thanks.

:cheers: [/QB]
Rainfall dates look right, though I can't verify them offhand. There was a site at Henderson (Oratia) which had reliable records for quite a long period, shown in the 1951-80 and earlier period averages.

Sunshine sites: The dates are OK (except see Mangere, Whenuapai below).It's documented that Albert Park values were affected by growing trees in later years. Also, records earlier than about 1933 look a bit dodgy. For my purposes I consider the comparisons with other sites only look satisfactory for the years 1933-1947 inclusive. The "purple patch" for Auckland sunshine seems to been the period about 1938-1945. The common records for A.P. and Mechanics Bay for 1950-1955 show a large difference.

In 1956 at Mechanics Bay Auckland recorded 2026, despite record rainfall, and compared favourably with Tauranga (2021) and Napier (2026) - both the latter having their cloudiest year on record to that date. Only Foxton (2044) had more sunshine amongst the North Island locations (the SW of the island wasn't as much affected as the north, centre and east in a bizarre year).

Auckland City 1962-1990: Again, obstructions near the recorder affected the last few years of records. Intercomparisons with Auckland Aero (1969-1989) are okay up to 1985, then show a marked change 1986-1990.

Records I have cover Mangere for 1964-1998 (new EWS opened in 2002; there may have been minor site changes in the old record, not sure about that). I have only seen Whenuapai's "new" data for 1998-2000, not 1995-2000. These records do not look good at all and I believe there was (as for AP) a "growing obstruction" issue. There are some older records for 1954-1969 which indicate a slightly lower average than Mechanics Bay by 50-75 hrs or thereabouts.

BTW, I don't want to get in to a direct or indirect argument with NIWA about any of this stuff - the people who did analyses of the older records and prepared the "normals" publications for 1941-70 and earlier aren't around anymore, and even in the 1951-80 case that may be true. I've drawn on a lot of sources - printed (mostly)and verbal - to reach my conclusions and am confident of them.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/06/2007 12:55

Few more showers with fine breaks here in Auckland - overall not a bad day wink .

Snow (and blizzards) down to 100m in the Deep South by tomorrow evening, with 20-25cm above 400 metres from 6am Thursday to 6am Friday. Here's this morning's Weather Advisory...
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SPECIAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR FIORDLAND SOUTHLAND OTAGO
ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 10:24am Wednesday 06-Jun-2007

VERY COLD SNOWY WEATHER COMING ON THURSDAY TO SOUTHERN SOUTH ISLAND AREAS, AND CONTINUING THROUGH FRIDAY AND MUCH OF SATURDAY.

A cold front is expected to cross southern South Island areas early Thursday morning followed by cold showery southwesterlies.
The southwesterlies are expected to become progressively colder during Thursday.
Snowfalls are likely down to about 300 metres during the morning and lowering to 100 metres in the evening. The heaviest snowfalls are likely to be over Fiordland, inland Southland and South Otago with lesser amounts reaching the Otago Lakes, Central Otago and Dunedin hills.
Snowfalls are likely to acccompanied by strong or gale force winds creating blizzard conditions in some inland areas of Southland and Otago.
Further snowfalls to low levels are likely to continue off and on through Friday and much of Saturday.

Bitterly cold conditions are likely to cause stress to animals. People in these areas are advised to consider moving stock to sheltered locations.

Road conditions are likely to become hazardous in many inland areas late on Thursday. Motorists are advised to consider carrying food and warm clothing, and to perhaps deferring journeys, especially during Thursday night.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/06/2007 16:56

Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/06/2007 17:23

No probs. I trust the BOM weather warning out now and recent events have changed your "handle"... wink
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/06/2007 18:25

The last week it has been a westerly flow mainly with showers in the north and west and south coast(SI).Here its been mostly moderate to fresh winds but were gusty this afternoon with fine periods interspersed with showers.Tonight its turned ugly as it goes more SW.Mins been from 11 to 13 and max about 17 or 18
Wellington has been fine as usual with gusty NW and maximums about the same.
Christchurch mostly ENE and fine but has had westerlies at times flucating the temperatures.Todays 3pm was 11
South of Dunedin theres been snow with hail in Invercargill,They got 5 at 3pm with a gale W
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 07:30

Severe Gale Winds of 85 km/h gusting to around 100 km/h were recorded in Invercargill city on Thursday morning and winds that were beginning to abate yesterday evening were likely to rise to gale force again today, with gusts to 130 km/h expected in coastal areas.

Invercargill's daytime temp only was only 5C (6C in Dunedin). MetService's wind chill factor swung between minus 5C and minus 2C during the mornings polar blast.

Snow began falling in Gore at 9am yesterday. A smattering of snowflakes fell in central Invercargill about 6pm, while northern suburbs had heavier falls that settled up to 6cm in places on last night.

The Southland front passed over Christchurch from about 2:30am to 5am this morning, bringing Fresh to Strong S'erlys gusting to 67km/h and is expected to head north, followed by 3 weather fronts bringing more wind and snow over the coming days.

W'erly winds are moving across the North Island today with severe gales expected in Hawke's Bay and Wairarapa.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 09:17

Another clear day here, 3rd in succession, this pm willing of course.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 11:49

Yes, sounds like Wellington's getting most of the sunshine lately. laugh

A little breezy here on Waiheke today, cloud with fine breaks and around 16C.
Auckland aero reported a Strong to Near Gale WSW'er gusting to at least 63km/h around mid morning.

The hills are apparently "thick" with snow and sleet in Gore (central Southland).
Snow is expected down to sea level in Dunedin this evening...
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 14:00

Cooler air around now with a little mid-level cloud moving overhead fairly quickly, probably has swung SSW. Then should be back to mainly NNW/W/WSW with generally fine conditions.

All expected to turn unpleasant about Monday as the Aussie system spreads rain down from the north - perhaps a chance for some rain for Hawkes Bay.

Notwithstanding a good storm last July, the big wet SE systems that deliver a good dollop of rain here have been very uncommon since the early to middle 80s - they were much more common in earlier times. Instead the much drier and more shortlived SSW/S variety have occurred more often, along with pure SW flows that give dry conditions.
This is the less colloquial version of a comment in a "nostalgia" article where some character was wondering where "the southerlies" of the 70s had gone.
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 16:05

Hey does anyone know where I can find the extreme weather records for NZ cities? Like the all-time lowest maximum for Christchurch etc?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 18:49

I rang my brother today - he said its been bitterly cold with gales, heavy showers, hail and sleet etc with numerous fronts passing over Southland each bringing a new wave of showers, gales etc - sounds like he's having a ball. He lives on a street south of the hospital which runs W to E facing the Oreti River Estuary so is bearing the brunt of the gales. Brings me back to the times when I was down there in bad weather - wonderful wintry weather indeed.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 19:04

Rwood - you'll be pleased with the sunshine smile .

Nev - as I mentioned before AKL was due to have showery W - SW winds for seven days - looking at the rainfall totals - only 23mm so far - not much in my eyes considering the W- SW airflow, I've also been looking at the live web-cam several times a day and it has been showing a few showers with long sunny periods.

When I lived in AKL - I used to love reading the weather section of the NZ Herald as it would have the weather data of the previous day for most NI centres as well as CHC and DUD (sunshine - two days behind), but one thing I hated was when the end of a month fell on a Sunday and Sunday figures were never shown in the Monday edition. I wonder if its changed now because the NIWA summary for May shows AKL as having 149 hrs - having read your comment about sunshine data ending 31st May - which stands at 156 hrs makes me wonder if NIWA did figures up to the 30th only and does the NZ Herald do Sunday figures nowadays?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 19:27

The NIWA online report has mistakenly stopped at the 30th, but the later hardcopy "Digest" one will be correct (usually comes out about 4 weeks later).

I didn't enjoy the conditions you described when in a cold school gym!! wink laugh

As I noted above, the Wellington papers have never ever dealt properly with weekends! mad
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 19:34

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Originally posted by pete25:
Hey does anyone know where I can find the extreme weather records for NZ cities? Like the all-time lowest maximum for Christchurch etc?
In general you'll have to ask NIWA for the relevant data (see below). The only info. posted publicly are a few overall NZ extremes, which you can find on the Met. Office website (correct up to March 2003):

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=dataclimateextremes

NIWA page explaining methods of obtaining climate data:

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/data
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 20:08

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Originally posted by RWood:
The NIWA online report has mistakenly stopped at the 30th, but the later hardcopy "Digest" one will be correct (usually comes out about 4 weeks later).

I didn't enjoy the conditions you described when in a cold school gym!! wink laugh

As I noted above, the Wellington papers have never ever dealt properly with weekends! mad
Ok - be sure to PM me the "correct" stats. as it happens.

WGT paper - isnt that "The Dominion" paper? I recall that they gave figures for WGT only and even not that great at that - I can understand how you feel - Im the same - like to have correct figures.

In regards to your post re "School Gyms" - I remember my cousins telling me that they wore shorts to school (James Hargest High School) even in the colder months when it was hailing and blowing a icy SW gale - certainly they teach IVC blokes to be "tough" but its not easy laugh

BTW have you seen the new supermarket on the corner of Tay & Elles Streets nowadays - its next to the new swimming (heated that is) complex - I think its Woolworths - so different nowadays. They didnt even have a McDonalds til the early 1990's.

Dee St - very well sheltered from W winds as it runs S - N and Esk Street (I used to pronouce it Eek St) and Clyde St - a very exposed St especially south of the hospital (Kingswell)driving down to Bluff - that is a town that seems to be sheltered from quite bad weather that IVC gets, however there are exceptions like that of July 1988 when it snowed right down to sea level at Bluff & it was amazing seeing from photos that Bluff was covered in snow right down to the foreshore(Courtesy of the local paper).

smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/06/2007 21:45

Bluff could be pretty cold though. The parts under the hill shadow would get less wind but lower max. temps. Awarua radio in the open country between the two towns was extremely windy (had a brother-in-law who used to work there, and my former wife lived there for a while while her father was managing the fertiliser works).

Didn't notice the supermarket when down there last year - at least, it didn't register.

As I noted once, on 31 May 1958 (evening) there was a very powerful westerly gale and it was almost impossible to stand up at the Dee/Tay corner.

Both the old papers - Dominion & Evening Post failed to give weather for one of the 2 weekend days, but one could deduce the rainfall and sun if you read both. Now there's only the "Dominion Post", which still refuses to put 2 days' details out. I'm sure MetService could sort it out quite easily - Ch'ch paper for instance, has no problem with the details, nor does the Otago daily Times. Dozens of papers in the old days - when there were more newspapers - had no problem either.

May be a while before I can send those stats - NIWA are behind with the printed monthly pubs. at the moment and may take a while to catch up.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/06/2007 19:55

Another gloriously clear day in W'gton, albeit pretty cool. Virtually windless.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/06/2007 12:49

Snowfalls around Dunedin from about 9am yesterday blocked some of the main roads, particularly the N'ern Highway - even the snow plough got stuck! Clearer skies and lighter winds today though should mark the end of 'the southern winter's first major outing'.

The remnants of that deep low which caused havoc along the NSW Central Coast and Hunter Valley over the last few days is beginning to have an affect here as it heads for NZ's central North Island.

In Auckland yesterday, winds turned more SW and died right down while cloud thickened during the day. Relatively cold today - 13C here on Waiheke and 11C at the Airport. Winds are turning more SE atm. We've had light rain most of this morn (seems to be clearing now) and it looks like we've got a few good days of rain coming up next week.

Until today, Auckland has only had the odd and very brief shower most days this week with only a few amounting to much - less here on Waiheke with only 14.5mm for June (plus another 6mm today) compared to 26mm at Akld aero.

I see the NZ Herald has included May 31 in it's June sunshine totals. To me this makes more sense when comparing other official daily obs which are taken to 9am, particularly T-maxs, even though sunshine hours from sunrise to sunset may start a few hours earlier.

I've used the simple summary below as an example...

24 hr Airport Obs to9am (plus 24 hr sunshine obs to 1am)
(Date, T-Max, T-min, Rain, Sun, Max-Wind)

Auckland
01 Jun, 16C ~ 6C, 0.0mm, 7.5 hrs, 4 kt SW (Clm/Lig)
02 Jun, 17C ~ 10C, 0.0mm, 8.2 hrs, 8 kt NNE (Gen)
03 Jun, 19C ~ 9C, 3.4mm, 4.1 hrs, 14 kt W (Mod)
04 Jun, 16C ~ 8C, 10.2mm, 3.1 hrs, 10 kt W (Gen/Mod)
05 Jun, 16C ~ 8C, 1.2mm, 4.9 hrs, 16 kt SW (Mod/Fre)
06 Jun, 18C ~ 12C, 7.8mm, 4.5 hrs, 16 kt W (Mod/Fre)
07 Jun, 17C ~ 10C, 0.6mm, 5.0 hrs, 15 kt W (Mod)
08 Jun, 16C ~ 9C, 0.4mm, 4.8 hrs, 27 kt W (Str/NrG)
09 Jun, 17C ~ 12C, 0.4mm, n/a hrs, 24 kt W (Str)
10 Jun, 16C ~ 10C, 1.8mm, n/a hrs, 12 kt SW (Mod)
:nerd:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/06/2007 17:10

Thanks Nev - confirmed my suspicions that AKL didnt have "showery and cloudy weather" as was forecast a few days ago, however looks like your had your coldest day of the year today with a cold E wind - when I lived in AKL I used to think an winter E or NE wind was much colder than an SWer especially when it was overcast/raining smile Looks like temps have been a bit milder than average?

IVC has recorded 84.6mm so far - nearly reaching the average. Been very cloudy as well with only 17 hrs of sunshine so far.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/06/2007 17:11

Yes, but that practice is not correct. May 31 belongs in May for that statistic. There is no crossing of day-boundaries involved. It's simply a case of reporting the totals a day later, which is what I thought the Herald was doing (ie on date x the sun total is current to the end of date x-2.)
That's what the other papers are doing, anyway.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/06/2007 17:22

Wellington 40.7 to 9th (May 31 not included!). Today won't have added much however.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/06/2007 10:41

A tribute to one of the Legends in NZ meteorology...
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Weatherman Augie Auer dies in Melbourne
10:28AM Monday June 11, 2007

Augie Auer has died.

The veteran meteorologist and former TV3 weather presenter suffered a heart attack in Melbourne while dining with family members last night.

He was on holiday to celebrate his wedding anniversary and 67th birthday. His son Andy is planning to travel to Australia this afternoon to help with plans to bring Mr Auer's body back to New Zealand.

Mr Auer emigrated to New Zealand in 1990 after 22-years at the University of Wyoming as Professor of Atmospheric Science. In New Zealand he became the chief meteorologist for MetService until 1998.

He is attributed with improving and updating the technical competence of the MetService weather forecasting staff.

In 1998 he became TV3's weekday weather presenter and the network's resident meteorologist in 2002.

He recently became involved in the debate over global warming, helping to found the Climate Science Coalition, a group that questions claims humanity is responsible for rising temperatures.

Coalition spokesman Owen McShane said news of Auer's death comes as a terrible shock. He said Mr Auer was simply a good man and despite often being the subject of personal abuse for his stance on climate change, he never let it get to him.

NZ Herald / Newstalk ZB
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/06/2007 13:15

Rain - (du jour?), yesterday Auckland's daytime temps did manage to creep up to 13C, 14C just before midnight and 15C by 8am this morning. Just Gentle winds here today, sunny this morn, but a little cloudier now on about 18C (Dunedin was only on -7C this morn btw)

RWood, yes agree with what you said (guess I'm just trying to put a square peg in a round hole) and the Herald doesn't publish obs for Saturday either (or Friday's sunshine obs), even though the have a subsidiary paper, 'The Herald on Sunday' (should talk to them about that - might sell a few more issues).

Sorry, got those Auckland sunshine obs slightly wrong. The NZ Herald haven't included May 31 obs in their June totals. And unfortunately the obs for the first three days of June are missing, but collectively they totalled 15.7 hrs.

Here's the correct sunshine figures and an updated version of the rest of June's daily obs to 9am.

Auckland 24 hr sunshine obs to Midnight
(Date, Sun, Month-Total)

Thu May 31 .. 7.5 hr . 156.6 hr

Fri Jun 01 .. n/a hr ... n/a hr
Sat Jun 02 .. n/a hr ... n/a hr
Sun Jun 03 .. n/a hr .. 15.7 hr
Mon Jun 04 .. 4.1 hr .. 19.8 hr
Tue Jun 05 .. 3.1 hr .. 22.9 hr
Wed Jun 06 .. 5.0 hr .. 27.9 hr
Thu Jun 07 .. 4.8 hr .. 32.7 hr
Fri Jun 08 .. 4.8 hr .. 37.5 hr
Sat Jun 09 .. 4.0 hr .. 41.5 hr

Auckland Airport 24 hr Obs to9am
(Date, T-Max, T-min, Rain, Sun, Max-Wind)

Fri Jun 01 .. 16C ~ 6C ... 0.0mm ... 4 kt SW. (Clm/Lig)
Sat Jun 02 .. 17C ~ 10C ... 0.0mm ... 8 kt NNE (Gen)
Sun Jun 03 .. 19C ~ 9C ... 3.4mm .. 14 kt W.. (Mod)
Mon Jun 04 .. 16C ~ 8C .. 10.2mm .. 10 kt W.. (Gen/Mod)
Tue Jun 05 .. 16C ~ 8C ... 1.2mm .. 16 kt SW. (Mod/Fre)
Wed Jun 06 .. 18C ~ 12C ... 7.8mm .. 16 kt W.. (Mod/Fre)
Thu Jun 07 .. 17C ~ 10C ... 0.6mm .. 15 kt W.. (Mod)
Fri Jun 08 .. 16C ~ 9C ... 0.4mm .. 27 kt W.. (Str/NrG)
Sat Jun 09 .. 17C ~ 12C ... 0.4mm .. 24 kt W.. (Str)
Sun Jun 10 .. 16C ~ 10C ... 1.8mm .. 12 kt SW. (Mod)
Mon Jun 11 .. 15C ~ 10C ...4.0mm .. 12 kt SE. (Mod)

:nerd:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/06/2007 13:58

Understood...only advanced to 41.0 after a cloudy cool day, though a very light wind made it seem not too bad at all.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/06/2007 18:50

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Originally posted by Nev:
A tribute to one of the Legends in NZ meteorology...
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[b]Weatherman Augie Auer dies in Melbourne
10:28AM Monday June 11, 2007

Augie Auer has died.

The veteran meteorologist and former TV3 weather presenter suffered a heart attack in Melbourne while dining with family members last night.

He was on holiday to celebrate his wedding anniversary and 67th birthday. His son Andy is planning to travel to Australia this afternoon to help with plans to bring Mr Auer's body back to New Zealand.

Mr Auer emigrated to New Zealand in 1990 after 22-years at the University of Wyoming as Professor of Atmospheric Science. In New Zealand he became the chief meteorologist for MetService until 1998.

He is attributed with improving and updating the technical competence of the MetService weather forecasting staff.

In 1998 he became TV3's weekday weather presenter and the network's resident meteorologist in 2002.

He recently became involved in the debate over global warming, helping to found the Climate Science Coalition, a group that questions claims humanity is responsible for rising temperatures.

Coalition spokesman Owen McShane said news of Auer's death comes as a terrible shock. He said Mr Auer was simply a good man and despite often being the subject of personal abuse for his stance on climate change, he never let it get to him.

NZ Herald / Newstalk ZB
[/b]
My god, I knew of him when I lived in NZ - his comments re climate change certainly caused plenty of controversy but he was a very good scienctist & knew what he was talking about.

RIP Augie. frown
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/06/2007 06:37

Hi Rain - VW ... yes a very sad loss frown
The NZ Herald saw fit to run a half page story on page 2 yesterday (above was just a preliminary draft).

Below are some of the tributes from a few former colleagues as quoted from that article:

"Auer had pioneered mesoscale and severe weather forecasting programs, looking at intense weather incidents such as thunderstorms, tornadoes and hail dumps. In Auer's early career in the United States, where he was born, he would fly planes into hail storms for research. He was one of the original storm chasers. Auer always had a great way of explaining the weather. He added some vim to the whole proceedings along with a little grin on his face."
- MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt.

"Auer had specialised in researching ice in clouds and was always looking to improve weather forecasts. He was an affable and genial person, a great and colourful communicator who made noteworthy contributions to the public understanding of weather. I can always remember him talking about cold sou-westers as commando raids of cold air blitzing the south, so he always had a good turn of phrase that made it memorable."
- Principal NIWA scientist Jim Salinger.

"He was a unique blend of a weather expert and a huge personality ... the ultimate weatherman. The jovial professor loved his broadcasting job and would be planning his quirky on-air wit from the moment he got up. However, he proved a little pesky in the wardrobe department, insisting on wearing fawn trousers and ties of his choice to the stylist's despair. Auer was also very competitive and tried hard to get the better of TV One's rival weatherman Jim Hickey."
- TV3 News and current affairs chief Mark Jennings.

Source: NZ Herald - Weather man who relished a good storm
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Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/06/2007 09:36

Augie Auer was one of the Best RIP

anyway yesterdays to 6pm from NZ Herald
Auckland T 12.7 15.3 R .8 RTD 31mm WG 48km SW Sun monday 3.5
Hamilton 7.5 15 0mm 51mm SW24
Wellington 8.9 13.2 0mm 5mm S59 sun .1
Christchurch -3 11.4 0mm 1mm SW32 sun 6.8
Dunedin -5.8 9.6 .2mm 29mm S26 sun na
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/06/2007 17:02

Been a nice day in Auckland,almost no wind low 7 to 16,dry and lots of sun here,cold in the east of both islands with showers,Watched tv3 tonight no 3pm temperatures shown ,too late to view metservice site but probably lower temps furthur south
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/06/2007 19:17

Wow - a min of only 1oC for AKL expected tonight (Airport) - Can you confirm Nev? If this actually happens - this would be one of the very rare nights when L-mins drop below 5oC.

Only 29mm so far at AKL airport which is much less than half the average seeing that June is usually one of the wettest months on average for Auckland - all bar March has recorded well below average rainfall.

RWood - did you get my PM on the other NZ forum a few days ago? As my outbox tells me you haven't yet opened it.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 15/06/2007 20:42

Yes, AKL has had it very dry. We're only getting very light precip. so far this month and now the cold SE flow with high pressures has only given a few showers or drizzle interspersed with long sunny intervals today.

Got your PM now - didn't notice the inconspicuous "1 new message" when it arrived. Have replied. smile
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/06/2007 09:57

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Wow - a min of only 1oC for AKL expected tonight (Airport) - Can you confirm Nev? If this actually happens - this would be one of the very rare nights when L-mins drop below 5oC.

Only 29mm so far at AKL airport which is much less than half the average seeing that June is usually one of the wettest months on average for Auckland - all bar March has recorded well below average rainfall.
Hi rainfan.

Btw, for the record, the official T-max in Auckland yesterday arvo (Fri) was only 13C, the morn's T-min was 9C and, although to perhaps to a lesser degree in the S, most of Auckland (incl. the airport) appears to have been mostly cloudy during the day?

Clear skies and less than in 5C in Akld this morning, so yes it could possibly get down to 1 or 2C on Sunday morning with SE'ers freshening, although that's now been revised to 4C. Only just hit 10C around noon here on Waiheke. There's a heavy snow warning for the Hawkes Bay ranges today with snow flurries also on the Desert Rd.

Re Auckland's rainfall - MetService's Akld aero web data is missing a few days, so it's likely to be a few mm higher than the 29.8mm shown. Still low, but sometimes frequency can be more important than intensity. Yes, March is the only month this year where rainfalls weren't below average (in fact it was almost twice the average due to the 'Northland Flood' event on the 28th-29th).


Auckland Airport 24 hr Obs to9am
(Date, T-Max, T-min, Rain, Max-Wind)

Fri Jun 01 .. 16C ... 6C ... 0.0mm ... 4 kt SW. (Clm/Lig)
Sat Jun 02 .. 17C .. 10C ... 0.0mm ... 8 kt NNE (Gen)
Sun Jun 03 .. 19C ... 9C ... 3.4mm .. 14 kt W.. (Mod)
Mon Jun 04 .. 16C ... 8C .. 10.2mm .. 10 kt W.. (Gen/Mod)
Tue Jun 05 .. 16C ... 8C ... 1.2mm .. 16 kt SW. (Mod/Fre)
Wed Jun 06 .. 18C .. 12C ... 7.8mm .. 16 kt W.. (Mod/Fre)
Thu Jun 07 .. 17C .. 10C ... 0.6mm .. 15 kt W.. (Mod)
Fri Jun 08 .. 16C ... 9C ... 0.4mm .. 27 kt W.. (Str/NrG)
Sat Jun 09 .. 17C .. 12C ... 0.4mm .. 24 kt W.. (Str)
Sun Jun 10 .. 16C .. 10C ... 1.8mm .. 12 kt SW. (Mod)
Mon Jun 11 .. 15C .. 10C ...4.0mm .. 12 kt SE. (Mod)
Tue Jun 12 .. 18C .. 13C ...n/amm .. 20 kt SSW (Fre)
Wed Jun 13 .. 15C ... 9C ...n/amm .. 20 kt SW. (Fre)
Thu Jun 14 .. 16C ... 9C ...0.0mm .. 11 kt W.. (Gen/Mod)
Fri Jun 15 .. 15C ... 9C ...n/amm .. 13 kt SE. (Mod)
Sat Jun 16 .. 13C ... 5C ...0.0mm .. 13 kt SE. (Mod)


Auckland 24 hr sunshine obs to Midnight
(Date, Sun, Month-Total)

Thu May 31 .. 7.5 hr . 156.6 hr

Fri Jun 01 .. n/a hr ... n/a hr
Sat Jun 02 .. n/a hr ... n/a hr
Sun Jun 03 .. n/a hr .. 15.7 hr
Mon Jun 04 .. 4.1 hr .. 19.8 hr
Tue Jun 05 .. 3.1 hr .. 22.9 hr
Wed Jun 06 .. 5.0 hr .. 27.9 hr
Thu Jun 07 .. 4.8 hr .. 32.7 hr
Fri Jun 08 .. 4.8 hr .. 37.5 hr
Sat Jun 09 .. 4.0 hr .. 41.5 hr
Sun Jun 10 .. 0.0 hr .. 41.5 hr
Mon Jun 11 .. 3.5 hr .. 45.0 hr
Tue Jun 12 .. 0.3 hr .. 45.3 hr
Wed Jun 13 .. 1.4 hr .. 46.7 hr
Thu Jun 14 .. 2.8 hr .. 49.5 hr

eek Brrrrrrr
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/06/2007 10:26

Running close on that stat. - we have 55.5 in 15 days but today is a cold miserable rainy S/SE - very unwelcome, all the more so for being less common in recent years (as noted earlier)
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/06/2007 12:54

NZ summary for Autumn 2007 (actually came out on 7th June):

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/sclimsum_07_2_autumn.pdf
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/06/2007 13:03

Yes, it does look like Wellington has had it's share of rain/showers over recent days. As I recall SE'ers are also responsible for much of the fog which 'occasionally' disrupts Wgtn aero?

Rains during the last week also look to have well and truly broken the East Coast drought conditions, particularly in the North Island's East Cape and Hawkes Bay regions, where Gisborne aero already reports over 60% of June's norm, with a total of 79mm, and Napier aero is well over June's norm with 93.0mm.

Auckland aero did get down to 4C this morning. Thin stratus associated with a weak front arrived before sunrise, keeping temps from possibly falling further. Yesterday's T-max was only 11C and today's doesn't doesn't look much higher on about 12C currently.

I see Invercargill was down to -3C this morning and most of today's South Island temps look to remain in single digits...
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/06/2007 14:42

Mostly very light showers until about midday y'day when the "drizzler" mutated into something more like an "old man" SE-er - all the more annoying because one is less used to it than in days of old, as noted. frown The "fog" SE is a totally different animal, being due to warm-origin air that travels "around the corner" and gets cooled over the ocean.

An amateur weather enthusiast here once classified about 6 local weather categories within a broad "southerly" description, depending on the gradient wind flow and circumstances. He did a similar exercise for northerly flows. It's amazing that so many people can live around here all their lives and learn absolutely nothing about these different scenarios, so that the weather presents itself as a constant succession of surprises. :rolleyes:

The cold S. Island nights wouldn't bother me in any location where that was followed by a fine day.

Wellington topped the autumn sunshine for the "5 mains" smile
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/06/2007 09:41

Attention rainfan: "Looking back" threads (2 Julys) added on the NZ forums. smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/06/2007 06:33

Thanks Rwood - had a look, interesting reading there smile .

Seems we Ozzies are hogging all your rains for once :rofl: as many centres NZ - wide currently having well below average rainfalls especially over the NI (Normally June is one of the wettest months on average there).

Better weather in Invercargill in the past week with little rain (96mm to date) and plenty of sun (53 hrs) however with quite cold & frosty nights.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/06/2007 07:00

As if it hasn't been cold enough already over the last few days...
Quote:
MetService News Release

WINTER GETTING READY TO TIGHEN ITS GRIP FOR SHORTEST DAY
Issued at 12:51pm 18-Jun-2007

MetService meteorologists are forecasting another cold wintry blast late this week after a brief period of warming sunshine on Tuesday.

"Winter will be tightening its grip later this week," commented the MetService Weather Ambassador, Bob McDavitt. "Northern and eastern areas of the North Island will have a sunny day on Tuesday followed by a period of rain on Wednesday and Thursday. The heaviest rain is likely to be in the eastern Bay of Plenty and Gisborne area on Thursday morning."

"A very cold and squally southwesterly wind flow is forecast to move from the polar ice-shelf onto the South Island on Thursday bringing snow to the mountains and maybe to some low levels in parts of Southland and Otago. This polar air will also be blowing over the North Island on Friday and Saturday making wind chill levels drop to below freezing."

Mr. McDavitt added that Friday is officially the shortest day this year,with day length down to 8 hours 35 minutes in Invercargill, 9 hours 2 minutes in Wellington and to 9 hours 38 minutes in Auckland. "There is still a day or so for farmers to brace for the wintry outburst that will be accompanying the lead-up to this year's shortest day."
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/06/2007 10:13

(clicky)

This "shepards warning" pic, looking NE across the Manukau Harbour towards Auckland at 7:35 this morning, was captured by Brian Hamilton before steady light rain settled in from about 9:30am.
Quote:
MetService - Severe Weather Watch

SEVERE WEATHER WATCH FOR NORTHLAND AUCKLAND COROMANDEL PENINSULA ALSO HAVELOCK NORTH TO EKETAHUNA

ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 1140hrs 20-Jun-2007

A BURST OF HEAVY RAIN TODAY FOR NORTHLAND AUCKLAND AND COROMANDEL PENINSULA
SEVERE GALES POSSIBLE LATER THURSDAY FOR EASTERN NORTH ISLAND FROM HAVELOCK NORTH TO EKETAHUNA
WATCH FOR BAY OF PLENTY AND NORTHERN GISBORNE UPGRADED TO HEAVY RAIN WARNING

A large low pressure area in the Tasman Sea is expected to cross central New Zealand on Thursday. An active cold front is moving southeast over Northland and Auckland, and should clear the North Island in the early hours of Thursday. This front will bring a burst of heavy rain today to Northland, Auckland and Coromandel Peninsula, and will be followed later in the day by some squally thunderstorms. Rainfall amounts will probably not reach warning criteria, but these areas remain on watch.
The watch for Bay of Plenty and northern Gisborne has been upgraded to a full warning.

Later Thursday, a trough is expected to cross the North Island. This trough may be accompanied by a period of westerly gales for the upper North Island, and severe westerly gales in the eastern North Island from Havelock North to Eketahuna. People in this area should remain up to date with latest forecasts, in case this watch is upgraded to a full warning.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 20/06/2007 11:56

Oops sorry, not supposed to use 'hot-links' to the WX-NZ forum.
The pic above can be referenced on the WX-NZ forum from here .
Posted by: tich

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/06/2007 19:09

Heavy snow to low levels today in Central Otago and inland South Canterbury, especially around Queenstown and Wanaka. (many roads closed etc) Cold and wet in Chch this evening; down to 4C.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/06/2007 07:03

Hi tich, nice to finally hear from the 'Mainland' wink

Yes, sadly yesterday's snowstorm has left one person dead. A 20-year-old Malaysian student from Otago University died when the car she was a passenger in slid off State Highway 6, down a 120m bank into Lake Wanaka and submerged upside down in a metre of water. Three other women survived and were taken to hospital suffering from hypothermia. Police grappled with up to 50 car crashes yesterday after heavy snow blanketed the region.

Although timely, the heavy snow dump seems to have taken Queenstown residents preparing for the 'Winter Festival' by surprise. Queenstown airport has been shut since Thursday afternoon and schools in the region closed about noon as buses were cancelled because they were unable to get children home.

MetService says another southerly front will hit the South Island this morning, bringing snow to 200m in Southland and parts of Otago. Snow was expected to sea level in South Otago by the end of today, with conditions not expected to ease until Monday.

In the North Island, snow is also expected to fall tonight at the top of the Desert Rd in the Central Plateau and heavy rain, thunderstorms and gale force winds will agian buffet the lower E coast of the North Island.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/06/2007 08:39

Just the wind from Napier to Wairarapa. Only near the Tararuas and the Manawatu gorge should there be any rain there today or in the w/end for that matter. Will stay fine but windy at times here, though things may well go southerly Mon or Tues.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 22/06/2007 11:56

Yes, sorry about that. I meant possible W or NW Severe Gales gusting up to 130 km/h from Hawkes Bay to the Wairarapa between this evening and Saturday night and squally showers and thunderstorms for just the W and N of the North Island today. I see there were reports of snow falling on the Tararuas on Wednesday arvo, although I'm not sure at what height.

We've already had a thunderstorm (or 2) with hail pass over Auckland around 9 and 10 this morning. That makes 18mm since 9am Wednesday here on Waiheke (at least twice that of the airport). Plenty of fine breaks as well though. Unlike the deep S, temps have also been very mild in Auckland recently with a T-max of 18C yesterday arvo and 16C just before midnight on Wednesday.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/06/2007 10:39

Auckland aero reports Near Gale W'erlys gusting to 74km/h early this morn. SW gales gusting 100 km/h are forecast today.

Here's last weeks Akld obs to date...

Auckland Airport 24 hr Obs to9am
(Date, T-Max, T-min, Rain, Max-Wind)

Sun Jun 17 .. 11C ... 4C ... 0.0mm .. 14 kt SE. (Mod)
Mon Jun 18 .. 13C ... 5C ...0.0mm .. 13 kt S.. (Mod)
Tue Jun 19 .. 14C ... 5C ...0.0mm .. 11 kt SSW (Gen/Mod)
Wed Jun 20 .. 14C ... 5C ...0.0mm ... 9 kt ENE (Gen)
Thu Jun 21 .. 16C .. 10C ...6.4mm .. 20 kt NE. (Fre)
Fri Jun 22 .. 18C .. 11C ...1.0mm .. 27 kt W.. (Str/NrG)
Sat Jun 23 .. 16C .. 10C ...6.2mm .. 29 kt WSW (NrG)

Auckland 24 hr sunshine obs to Midnight
(Date, Sun, Month-Total)

Fri Jun 15 .. 4.7 hr .. 54.2 hr
Sat Jun 16 .. 9.3 hr .. 63.5 hr
Sun Jun 17 .. 2.6 hr .. 66.1 hr
Mon Jun 18 .. 8.1 hr .. 74.2 hr
Tue Jun 19 .. 6.7 hr .. 80.9 hr
Wed Jun 20 .. 0.0 hr .. 80.9 hr
Thu Jun 21 .. 2.7 hr .. 83.6 hr
.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/06/2007 14:26

Here as the winds go more SW they have been steadily rising and now almost Gale Force and are whistling,been a few showers and long cloudy periods with sun between,According to metservice 3pm readings it was max 14 but was 10 here overnight.Metservice shows wind WSW 37kmh but have increased since then.

Wellington Fine as always with less wind 12 and only fresh at times WNW 22kmh.
Christchurch fine most of today with a cool 9 and a 19kmh SW.
Dunedin 4 and snow showers this afternoon.Strong SW 32kmh

Highest gust SW Cape 74kmh and Kaitaia 70kmh SW direction of course

Fine north of Timaru in the east and Wellington to BOP but showery elsewhere
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 08:06

Beautiful Fri & Sat in Wgton, not so flash in
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 08:36

Travel fatigue and different keyboard... laugh
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 10:04

Oh dear confused

"Here as the winds go more SW they have been steadily rising and now almost Gale Force"
Really? Well here in Auckland yesterday, as with most of the North Island, winds were consistently from the WSW (still are) and although steady at 'Gale Force' for most of the day on Auckland's more exposed far SW coast, Akld aero showed more erratic winds peaking at 48 km/h around 6am on Saturday and have generally decreased ever since.

"Metservice shows wind WSW 37kmh but have increased since then."
See above.

"According to metservice 3pm readings it was max 14 but was 10 here overnight."
Auckland aero's T-min of 10C occurred at about 8pm on Friday evening - by midnight temps were back up to about 14C and Saturday's T-max of 15C occurred earlier in the afternoon.

"Wellington Fine as always with less wind 12 and only fresh at times WNW 22kmh."
Wgtn aero's Max-Winds on Saturday were 33kmh at around 5am and Kelburn recorded a T-max of 11C in the early afternoon. Why 'Fine as always'? Figures so far this month show Wgtn with less sunshine than either Akld or Chch and about the same rainfall as Akld or well over twice that of Chch.

"Christchurch fine most of today with a cool 9 and a 19kmh SW."
Chch aero showed Max-Winds of 24 km/h at 2pm.

"Dunedin 4 and snow showers this afternoon.Strong SW 32kmh"
Dunedin aero shows winds of at least 37 km/h late morn, which is still only 'Fresh'.

"Highest gust SW Cape 74kmh and Kaitaia 70kmh SW direction of course"
Those are 'Wind' speeds, not 'Gust' speeds.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 12:05

Readers can decide whos right or wrong

Look at www.fencepost.co.nz
www.metservice.co.nz or www.niwa.co.nz and click on appropriate links.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 13:55

Invercargill's recent burst of very wintry weather makes Auckland look very balmy indeed - the cold snap doesn't seem to have affected Auckland badly like further south. Auckland Airport rainfall TD June - wise is 45mm which is still well below average & reading the temps that Nev put out - temps seem to be quite mild than can be expected for this time of the year and there have been some occasions when Auckland's temps have been higher than Sydney/QLD.

Spoke to my brother - very cold in Invercargill over the past few days with plenty of freezing winds reaching gale-force on many days, rain/showers, and some snow/sleet showers & a tornado in Invercargill's SE suburbs a few days ago with some houses/cars suffering damage. IVC on 125mm so far, however in spite of the high rainfall, sunshine has exceeded the average now with 70 hours of sun so far.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 20:33

Quote:
Originally posted by NZAAS:
Readers can decide whos right or wrong
It's not so much a question who's right or wrong, but if you insist using this thread as just another daily weather blog, then you owe it to readers to at least be accurate, rather than just use selective and fudged data to further your own personal and obviously unfounded, biased views. One only needs to look at your absurd address-line as a classic example of this.

All the temps, rainfall and wind-speeds I've quoted ARE from official MetService obs (freely available on their web-site) and also from more detailed METARS. The Auckland sunshine obs are those supplied by NIWA to the media (they don't give daily figures away for free on their web-site).
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 21:27

Hi rainfan, yes unusually mild in Auckland for this time of year - hardly made a dent in the firewood pile yet.

I'm a little dubious about that tornado report in Invercargill, which apparently lifted 3 iron roofs and threw a corrugated iron fence into the window parked car while another section smashed into the window of a nearby house. Apart from the damage caused, I haven't been able to find any first hand eyewitness accounts of the actual event. I think the so called 'tornado' may have only been assumed and could just have easily, if not more likely, have been a microburst.
Any more info would be gratefully appreciated smile
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 24/06/2007 22:09

Nev - I didnt even know about it until I spoke with my brother today, so after your recent post - looked up the Southland Times website and found this description of the "Tornado" which is part of an article, it seems that it was actually a "downburst".

"In Invercargill, Rockdale Rd and Glenalmond Cres residents were stunned after a whirlwind flattened fences, lifted tiles and sent planks of timber through windows.

At least four properties were damaged.

Rockdale Rd resident Rhonda Nicoll was counting her blessings after a corrugated iron fence from a neighbouring property flew over her garage, with a metre-long fencepost smashing through her car windscreen and imbedding itself in the front passenger seat.

"I was just about to go and get in the car ... to go and get my kids from school. If it had to have been a couple of minutes later I don't know what would have happened."

Shattered glass and another post rested on the bed in her daughter's bedroom as well, she said.

The wind appeared to have travelled in a direct line, damaging homes only on one side of the street, and one resident reported he thought the wind was travelling about 170kmh.

MetService forecaster Ian Miller said the damage was caused by what was known as a downburst, a phenomenon that happened during storms when super-chilled air from higher in the atmosphere was funnelled to the earth suddenly".

(The full article can be viewed by clicking on the link below)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southlandtimes/4104794a6011.html
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/06/2007 06:24

Thanks rainfan, missed that one. Suspicions confirmed! Probably the only paper to have retracted their original story. I hope NIWA reads that before their next summary.

Now 1 all in the boat race this morn btw - Yahoo! laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/06/2007 17:22

Revolting southwesterlies with showers again high 15
Wellington 8 Christchurch 8 Dunedin 4
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/06/2007 07:11

It was actually warmer in the very early hours of yesterday morning in both Wellington and Dunedin than it was during the day.

Snow fell in Dunedin for most of the day, even down to sea level without settling, although the severe weather finally eased off this morning, leaving a harsh frost in its wake. Bitter S'erlys also hit the lower half of the North Island overnight, bringing snowfalls to 200m in some places. The Desert Road was closed this morning, as was the Rimutaka Hill Rd near Wellington and the Napier-Taupo Rd also closed for a period overnight overnight.

Clear blue skies and calm winds in Auckland this morn with current temps down to 4-5C.

rainfan and RWood (if you're reading this from Rio) thought these rather surprising figures from the NZ Herald may be of interest...
Quote:
Winter wetter, warmer
5:00AM Sunday June 24, 2007
By Michelle Coursey

It's cold, snowy, wet or wild outside this weekend - but forecasters say this winter will be mild and warm.

Severe winter blasts have hit New Zealand over the past four days bringing road and airport closures due to snow and squalls across both islands. But the national climate centre Niwa and the MetService agree that this weekend will not be typical - we're in for a mild winter.

MetService says temperatures will be around 2C warmer than usual this winter in almost every part of the country, and Niwa scientist Dr Jim Salinger agrees temperatures will be up - "but we will have cold spells".

MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt said the weather for June, July and August was being influenced by a trend towards La Nina, a weather pattern where cooler sea temperatures in the equatorial Pacific ocean cause warmer sea surface temperatures around New Zealand.

"La Nina means means fewer southwesterly [winds] than normal, as far as our winters are concerned. And even though we have had a southwesterly wind raging [this weekend], which is sharp and memorable, we haven't had that many of them this winter."

Frosts will not be as harsh this winter says McDavitt.

"We've had some cracker frosts in the last week or so, though."

As for rain, both MetService and Niwa's national climate centre are predicting average rainfall in most places but it might be wetter in the north and east of the North Island.

Niwa said the only place that might be drier than usual was the east of the South Island.

While the Bay of Plenty is known for its sunshine, McDavitt says La Nina will bring some sharp nor-east winds to the region.

"They're going to get some nasty northeasters this winter," he says.

And, as usual, Auckland will be warmer, but also wetter, says Salinger.

Copyright 2007, APN Holdings NZ Limited
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/06/2007 10:30

Well see. Cant find apost.! 31C in Rio Monday. Rain Tues. morning. Wgton 94 hrs to 24th - what are AK and CHC totals to thhen Nev?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/06/2007 20:09

Hmmm interesting, thanks Nev. We'll wait and see if it eventually pans out smile . If it does happen then at least that'll stop a annoying & exaggerating noise from a certain quarter :rofl:

I was thinking more like milder over the NI & colder in the SI this month so far - I could be wrong, the NIWA June summary will confirm further details next week. I have adjusted Auckland's sunshine hours for May 2007 from 149 hours to 156 hours as per your comments on this a few pages back.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/06/2007 21:28

Looks like June temps overall will be significantly down on mean. Expect later winter to be relatively milder.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/06/2007 21:30

PS rainfan - YTD rainfalls well below normal in a number of places. Wgton about 200-300 down from memory only.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/06/2007 22:25

June sunshine total to Sunday 24th was 115.1 hrs for Christchurch and 96.9 for Auckland, with probably about another 7-8 hrs here today and maybe about 1-2 hrs yesterday.

Severe Gales and 5m swells in Cook Strait meant the cancellation of all the morning's ferry sailing's, while Wellington aero reported SSW'ers tipping Gale force with gusts to 44 knots (82 km/h). Have eased somewhat now though.

Max of about 12C in Auckland today (although only 9.4C here on Waiheke) with light morning SSE'ers tending to a moderate SSW'er. Maybe down to 3C or less tonight (with is 'bloody' cold for Auckland) laugh
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/06/2007 00:52

Wont be fun going back to NZs cold if that keeps up. Daily 27/12 with sun and low humidity in central Brazil. Hope I can afford to come again in the nearish future...
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/06/2007 09:18

This report from StuffNZ.

Crashes, slips after heavy rain overnight
Stuff.co.nz | Saturday, 30 June 2007

Heavy rain and flooding were causing problems around the country this morning.

Overnight rain in Christchurch caused a number of small slips on roads running along the bottom of the Port Hills.

A man was killed in killed in an early morning crash on Hills Road at 2am. The road was expected to be closed until after 7am and diversions were in place.

Meanwhile, State Highway 3 between Ashurst and Woodville was closed due to a crash and minor slips. Police said that no one was injured in the crash involving a car and a truck and trailer unit but the road was expected to be closed until the truck could be removed and the slips stabilised. It was expected that the road would be re-opened around 9am.

In the capital, Wellingtonians woke up to heavy rain this morning. Police advised motorists to avoid parts of the central city after a water main burst on the corner of Willis Street and Dixon St. Sections of both streets were closed off this morning.

Police advised motorists to take extra care on roads in Wellington and the surrounding areas affected by surface flooding.

Invercargill now on 94.6 hrs of sunshine & 132.9mm of rain.

Nev - how's the weather been in Auckland lately? I hear its been overcast with rain. I see from metservice a max of 19oC expected for today & tomorrow - very mild for this time of the year indeed - from memory July 1998 or 1999? recorded a max of 22oC or 23oC?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/06/2007 09:59

EDIT - IVC now on 148mm as from metservice & Auckland Aero on 73mm.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 30/06/2007 11:02

Hi rainfan
Yes well, the recurring theme with with monthly rainfall totals this year seems to be 'the show ain't over till the fat lady sings'.

Moist NE'ers brought plenty of rain over most the country over the last 24 hrs, particularly in the upper South Island's West Coast and in the North Island's Coromandel Ranges with falls around 100mm. Tauranga in the Bay of Plenty recorded 42mm, New Plymouth in Taranaki recorded 34mm and in Christchurch 36mm caused some flooding on roads around the city, as with the Wellington region, although only 27mm was recorded in Kelburn.

Auckland aero recorded 21mm to 9am this morn and Strong NE'ers pushed overnight temps up to 15C.
For June, Auckland aero's highest T-max was about 19C on the 2nd and lowest T-min was 2.6C on the 27th.
The average T-max was about 15C with the average T-min about 8C (so basically normal).

Sunshine hours to Thursday were above normal for Auckland (117.9 hrs), Wellington (104.8 hrs) and Christchurch (136.3 hrs).

Here's last weeks Akld obs to date...

Auckland Airport 24 hr Obs to9am
(Date, T-max, T-min, Rain, Max-Wind)

Sun Jun 24 .. 15C .. 11C ... 2.2mm .. 28 kt WSW (Str/NrG)
Mon Jun 25 .. 15C .. 10C ...3.8mm .. 24 kt SW. (Str) 8:20am
Tue Jun 26 .. 15C ... 5C ...3.4mm .. 25 kt WSW (Str)
Wed Jun 27 .. 13C ... 3C ...0.0mm .. 15 kt SSW (Mod)
Thu Jun 28 .. 11C ... 4C ...0.0mm ... 6 kt SE. (Lig/Gen)
Fri Jun 29 .. 14C ... 7C ...0.0mm .. 15 kt NE. (Mod)
Sat Jun 30 .. 16C .. 13C ..21.0mm .. 24 kt NE> (Str)


Auckland 24 hr sunshine obs to Midnight
(Date, Sun, Month-Total)

Fri Jun 22 .. 3.8 hr .. 87.4 hr
Sat Jun 23 .. 5.0 hr .. 92.4 hr
Sun Jun 24 .. 4.5 hr .. 96.9 hr
Mon Jun 25 .. 2.7 hr .. 99.6 hr
Tue Jun 26 .. 9.1 hr . 108.7 hr
Wed Jun 27 .. 8.4 hr . 117.1 hr
Thu Jun 28 .. 0.8 hr . 117.9 hr

wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/07/2007 05:06

Im cut off from interesting weather - but not good weather, its superb in these "winter savannah" zones. Awaiting with interest the temp. deltas for June. I expect some places to still be below average rainfall, certainly Kelburn among various others.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/07/2007 10:01

Hi RWood. Yes June looks to have been cooler than normal for NZ overall and relatively speaking, the further S of Auckland one goes, the cooler it got. My guess is that Kelburn in Wellington was about 0.5C below normal and Christchurch possibly as much as 1.5C below normal.

Cleared a little here in Auckland yesterday arvo with a T-max of 17C and a T-min of 12C early this morn. Rain returned around 8:30 this morn as this next front passes through.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/07/2007 10:16

Then my guess is for June to have been up to 1C warmer than last June, which would still be well below average. A quick check gave me Auckland, Wellington & Chch all below average rainfall.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/07/2007 10:19

PS - its always hot in Death Valley at this time of year, but the Yahoo prog. has temps peaking at 53C max and 33C min on Wed. next - holy frying pans Batman!
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 07:13

Nev - looks like you were right - temps 0.5oC above average in N & E of NI.

Mild May made June seem freezing
NZPA | Monday, 2 July 2007

June may have seemed cold throughout the country, but only the South Island suffered more than usual.

Figures issued yesterday by the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research showed average temperatures were 0.6 degrees celsius below normal nationwide, and up to 1C below normal in Otago.

However, they were about 0.5C above average in parts of the north and east of the North Island and near average in most other North Island regions.

Part of the reason the month may have felt chilly was the contrast with a record-warmest May, which was on average more than 4C higher than last month's average temperature.

The deep south also suffered more rain, with twice the normal rainfall in parts of Southland and at least 1.5 times the normal rainfall in South Otago and Westland. However, much of the country had about 75 per cent of normal rainfall, including Horowhenua-Kapiti, Wellington, Wairarapa, Marlborough, Nelson and parts of Canterbury.

Snow fell to low levels in Southland and Otago between June 7 and 9 and between June 20 and 24.

The highest temperature in the month was 22.4C, at Rangiora, 32km north of Christchurch, on June 1.

The lowest was -10.8C at Tara Hills, Omarama, in Central Otago, on June 22.

In all five main centres, sunshine hours were above normal. But rainfall was below normal only in Wellington.

Temperatures were above normal in Auckland and Hamilton, and below normal in Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin.

(From www.stuff.co.nz)
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 07:23

Here's an article of interest & describes many suburbs in the Auckland Metro Area having their own microclimates. Interesting to note that Waiheke Island has actually in spite of being surrounded totally by water recorded a frost!

Climate-watchers give us the details

5:00AM Monday July 02, 2007
By Wayne Thompson

Auckland's weather varies depending on where you live, be it in an urban valley, on top of a hill or down beside the sea.

That difference will be shown by a network of Weatherwise Auckland observers who will give Herald readers a broad coverage of the day's weather and 24-hour readings taken at 5pm.

Weatherwise principal Carla Salinger says measurements at four sites a day gives a better representation of what the weather is really like in Auckland.

The observers have weather stations set up at Freemans Bay for the inner city, and at Helensville, Orewa, Waiheke Island, Hillsborough, Henderson, St Johns Park, Beachlands, Waiuku and Pukekohe.

Their observations of the past week show some parts of Auckland are more susceptible to frosts than others.

Henderson had three frosts, Waiuku had two and Waiheke Island one. But Hillsborough, St Johns Park and Beachlands had none.

Some observers have been with Weatherwise Auckland for 10 years or more.

Henderson observer Albert Chan said his station was in a valley that was sheltered and warm during the day.

But at night, it received cold airflows from inland.

Over a year, Henderson's mean daily temperatures could vary from 20.1C to 9.8C.

Barbara and Roger van Ryn, of Beachlands, say their area has its own microclimate.

"When the weather comes from the north, we get buckets more rain than anywhere," said Mrs van Ryn.

"When it comes from the southwest we do not get as much rain as other places."

Last month, Beachlands had 73.5mm of rain, compared with June 2002 when 146.6mm was recorded.

For 37 years, Waiheke Island resident Malcolm Philcox has been manning a weather station that has been in operation since 1914.

His records show that last month there was 120mm of rain compared with 230mm in June 1924.

"There was one particularly wet three-month period when 700mm was recorded, and I suggested farmers could start growing their sheep hydroponically," he said.

For a graph & photo - click on this link :-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10449009

(From the NZ Herald).
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 08:01

Nevs Waiheke Island shows almost the least rain and almost the highest max temperature.Unfortunately no wind speeds recorded in any of those areas.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 17:06

Climate summary for June 2007.

http://www.niwascience.co.nz/ncc/cs/mclimsum_07_06
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 17:10

From the Southland Times.

Southland 'got it in the neck' during bitterly cold June
By EVAN HARDING, and DYLAN THORNE - The Southland Times | Monday, 2 July 2007

The south bore the brunt of last month's wild weather.

National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research figures show it was a wintry month, especially in the south, with frequent wintry bitterly cold south-westerlies producing snow followed by severe frosts.

The weather severely disrupted Queenstown's Winter Festival.

The opening night was cancelled amid a snow blizzard and several events on the final day yesterday were canned because of rain on the skifields.

Nationally, the lowest air temperature during the month was minus 10.8degC recorded at Tara Hills, Omarama, on June 22.

The lowest temperature recorded in Alexandra was minus 9degC, Gore, minus 4.6degC; Invercargill, minus 3.1degC; and Queenstown, minus 6.5degC.

"Southland got it in the neck," Niwa principal scientist Jim Salinger said. "Gore doubled its normal June rainfall. The figure for Gore was 162mm of rain that is the highest at that station since it started in 1988. I would describe (the weather) as cold wintry blasts."

A 45S Weather Services summary of Invercargill's weather in June revealed colder than normal temperatures, gale force winds, rain, hail, snow and frosts. Surprisingly, Invercargill also received more sunshine hours than normal last month.

45S Weather Services forecaster Andy Fraser said deep lows to the south of New Zealand brought periods of west and south-west gales and widespread snowfalls inland on the June 23 and 24 weekend. Snow fell in coastal areas but did not lie.

Other stormy periods occurred between June 5 and 9, he said.

Wind gusts of 93kmh or more were recorded on six days, with the peak gust of 109kmh on June 7.

"Despite the grim weather pattern, there were a handful of pleasant days with little wind and moderate temperatures," Mr Fraser said.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 21:47

Hi rainfan, couple of points re that 'Climate-watchers' article...

Waiheke resident Malcolm Philcox is quoted as saying he recorded 120mm last month, but the accompanying graphic only shows 77.6mm.

The same graphic also shows Waiheke with only 24mm for the last 7 days of June, whereas I recorded 29mm in just the last day alone (Auckland aero reported 21mm for the same 24 hr period).

But then Waiheke's a relatively big island - at 26km long and 19km across at it's widest point, it's almost as big as the entire Auckland isthmus.

wink
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/07/2007 23:04

Interesting summary - my guess of a colder month, but warmer than last June seems to have been pretty good.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/07/2007 04:30

Trivia item from summary - Paraparaumu well in excess of average sun, but W'gton city only slightly so. The reason is a spell of 5-6 days of SE conditions where the city had a lot of cloud and regular showers, but the NW zones had fine weather.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/07/2007 17:09

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Hi rainfan, couple of points re that 'Climate-watchers' article...

Waiheke resident Malcolm Philcox is quoted as saying he recorded 120mm last month, but the accompanying graphic only shows 77.6mm.

The same graphic also shows Waiheke with only 24mm for the last 7 days of June, whereas I recorded 29mm in just the last day alone (Auckland aero reported 21mm for the same 24 hr period).

But then Waiheke's a relatively big island - at 26km long and 19km across at it's widest point, it's almost as big as the entire Auckland isthmus.

wink
LOL was wondering if you would notice those "different" obs, I did at one point wonder if "Malcolm" was you but it's not to be laugh

Yes the AMA & outlying islands shows such variability in terms of rainfall & temps.

Auckland has (to end June) measured only 425mm (Should be on average be at 581mm). Out of the 425mm - 178mm fell in March alone so only 247mm has fallen over the 5 remaining months.

Sunshine has also fared well with no months being below average (Which I count as being less than 90% of the montly average) with 3 being well above average, total is now 1092 hours compared to the average of 1028 hours.

Due to the May sunshine debacle - did the NZ Herald show the same monthly amount of 118 hrs for June as per the NIWA summary?

Temps a bit warmer than usual with March & May being particulary so.

:wave:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/07/2007 22:28

Remember the NIWA summary is provisional.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/07/2007 06:40

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Due to the May sunshine debacle - did the NZ Herald show the same monthly amount of 118 hrs for June as per the NIWA summary?
Yes (actually 117.9 hrs), but only because Auckland recorded 0.0 sunshine hrs on the 30th (and 29th). Can't verify Wellington's June sunshine total because the Herald seem to have prematurely zeroed Wgtn's hrs, however, they did report 3.2 hrs for Christchurch on the 30th bringing their total to 139.5 hrs, as opposed to the 136 hrs reported in NIWA's 'provisional' summary. Unfortunately the Herald doesn't publish sunshine obs for Hamilton or Dunedin.

Just scattered cloud here on Waiheke yesterday after a fairly wet start to July - 24mm here so far as opposed to the 19mm at Akld aero. Looks like some more snow on the way for parts of the South Island.

(Shame about the boat race - only lost by 1 second frown )
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/07/2007 10:54

Looks like Alexandra in South Otago may be getting -12C in the coming week! Also Timaru will be getting down to at least -9C after this huge high settles in...
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/07/2007 16:40

New Plymouth tornado 'sounded like aircraft engine'
Updated 4:10PM Wednesday July 04, 2007

A tornado that tore through three kilometres of New Plymouth's CBD, tearing off roofs and scattering debris in its wake, came in from the sea and announced its presence with a loud rumbling noise, according to eye witnesses.

The roof of the PlaceMakers store in the central city was ripped off and dumped on top of some nearby parked cars and there is extensive damage to the Pukekura Park Racing Club.

"It sounded like an aircraft engine," said Rebecca Buis, who saw the roof of the PlaceMakers go flying.

"There were big planks of wood - hunks of four-by-two hovering there for a while." ...

Second tornado

Botany Downs in southeastern Auckland was also hit by a small tornado this afternoon.

The Fire Service has had five call-outs to the area with people claiming their roofs have been lifted.

One person is being treated by ambulance staff for injuries...

Full Story
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/07/2007 18:09

Seems there were actually 3 tornadoes reported in the North Island today!
Thunderstorms passed over Waiheke from 4pm dumping 22mm here in 1 hour.
Quote:


New Plymouth tornado - NewsTalkZB

Tornadoessweep across NorthIsland
4 July 2007

Tornadoes have swept through the North Island, hitting first New Plymouth, before moving to Auckland then Tauranga.

The third twister ripped through parts of Tauranga, leaving at least two homes damaged. The strong winds were part of an electrical storm that crossed the city around 5.30pm.

Laurence St near Tauranga Hospital appears to be the worst hit. One house has lost part of a roof and residents say wood piles and outdoor furniture was sent flying. Another house in Cambridge Heights on the outskirts of the city lost roof tiles.

Catherine Wright was at home in Tauranga when the tornado touched down. She says her house began to shake, rain was horizontal and bit of debris were flying around. Ms Wright says there is minor damage for the length of her street. She says the experience was terrifying.

The tornado which hit southeast Auckland has damaged at least 30 homes. Gusts swept through just before 4pm and took tiles from houses in the Botany Downs, Golflands and Somerville areas. Fire Service shift supervisor Scott Osmond says the damage to rooves is relatively minor and tiles have either to be patched back on or replaced by tarpaulins. Two people were taken to Middlemore Hospital with injuries.

The first tornado gusted through New Plymouth at around 1pm. It began at a Placemakers store and ended its course 3km away at a race course on New Plymouth's outskirts. The local fire service say a woman in Placemakers at the time of the twister was concussed from falling debris and was taken to hospital for observation.

New Plymouth witnesses described the sound of the oncoming tornado as similar to that of an approaching train. It is thought to have made a 360 degree turn, tearing off rooves from industrial buildings and homes, with heavy debris smashing windows.

Senior fire officer Trevor Moore says the trail of debris in New Plymouth stretches half a kilometre long and 200 metres wide through the CBD. He says half a dozen buildings have been damaged, with Placemakers worst hit. The building lost half its roof. Part of the debris was lying on top of another building across the road and another piece had fallen across several cars on an adjacent street.

2007NZCity, NewsTalkZB
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/07/2007 00:50

I'm a bit sceptical about a -12C predicted reading for Alex. - that would be exceptionally low.

Nev: the NIWA summary stated Ch'ch was only for 30 days. It all gets wrapped up in the printed pub. which comes about a month later.

After 11 straight days of continuous sun I can see a few small CU in the east central Brazilian sky - may get a sunset photo yet.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/07/2007 07:01

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Due to the May sunshine debacle - did the NZ Herald show the same monthly amount of 118 hrs for June as per the NIWA summary?
Yes (actually 117.9 hrs), but only because Auckland recorded 0.0 sunshine hrs on the 30th (and 29th). Can't verify Wellington's June sunshine total because the Herald seem to have prematurely zeroed Wgtn's hrs, however, they did report 3.2 hrs for Christchurch on the 30th bringing their total to 139.5 hrs, as opposed to the 136 hrs reported in NIWA's 'provisional' summary. Unfortunately the Herald doesn't publish sunshine obs for Hamilton or Dunedin.

Just scattered cloud here on Waiheke yesterday after a fairly wet start to July - 24mm here so far as opposed to the 19mm at Akld aero. Looks like some more snow on the way for parts of the South Island.

(Shame about the boat race - only lost by 1 second frown ) [/b]
Thanks for that Nev smile . As I reiterated before after the May sunshine debacle - had to double check with you, I'll be checking the monthly sunshine figures with you from now on.

Gosh at the reports of tornadoes - I hear there was another one reported at Whakatane last night. Taranaki seems to get a lot of tornadoes - is this NZ's most tornado - prone region? Glad to hear no one was killed though.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/07/2007 22:21

A Civil Defence emergency was declared in Taranaki tonight following another swarm of tornadoes at about 5:30pm. It's thought that 6 tornadoes hit the region, most of them within a 15 km radius of New Plymouth. Bell Block, Egmont Village and Waitara have all been affected, with the most serious damage centred on Oakura, where residents watched horrified as 3 tornadoes - one of them a "really big bastard" - cut a destructive path through the small coastal settlement. At least 40 to 50 houses were damaged, some of those sustaining damage of up to 70 to 80%. Many of thesehousesare now uninhabitable. Civil Defence understands that there is one female injured and another incident where an unknown number of people have been trapped in a vehicle by power lines towards Opunake. A large squall line containing some big thunderstorms moved across the area, and the weather outlook for Friday is reportedly 'not good'.
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
...I hear there was another one reported at Whakatane last night. Taranaki seems to get a lot of tornadoes - is this NZ's most tornado - prone region?...
Bit dubious about the one in Whakatane "blowing over a few dog houses and lifting some tiles off a roof or two". wink

And yes, Taranaki would probably rate as one of the most tornado prone areas, second only to the upper South Island's West Coast. The Waikato and Bay of Plenty and even Auckland are also 'hot-spots.

New Zealand's worst tornadic event was the Frankton/Hamilton tornado in August 1948, which left 3 people dead and 80 injured. About 150 houses were wrecked or badly damaged. One house was picked up, turned around and dropped across the street - a woman and her two children inside survived unhurt.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/07/2007 00:23

Dramatic stuff. My partner has an aunt in Oakura.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/07/2007 20:43

Thanks Nev smile

Just had a look at the photos on the nzstuff website - the damage from yesterday's evening 2nd outbreak looks quite bad. Would this be the most intense outbreak of tornadoes in NZ's history? I dont recall having heard of an outbreak of this magnitude NZ-wide.

From what you told me about areas prone to tornadoes - why do they occur in those areas such as the W of both islands & N of the NI and not in other areas? Is it to do with the proximity to the Tasman Sea where clouds coming in directly from the sea can intensify rapidly into severe thunderstorms due to excessive moisture in the atmosphere or from hot/cold fronts colliding?

I remember reading a report about a tornado striking the Christchurch suburb of Halswell (in the South Island) in January 1983 & it was mentioned that this was a very rare occurrence especially for E areas of the SI.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/07/2007 08:48

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Just had a look at the photos on the nzstuff website - the damage from yesterday's evening 2nd outbreak looks quite bad. Would this be the most intense outbreak of tornadoes in NZ's history? I dont recall having heard of an outbreak of this magnitude NZ-wide.
Yes, it does seem fairly unusual to have so many tornadoes in such a short time in so many different areas - could well be record. The Taranki outbreak is certainly on of the worst in financial terms and human displacement - $NZ 7 million so far - much worse than initial estimates. It really is amazing that no one was seriously injured or killed when you see pictures of glass torpedoed into walls and the large holes where objects had been flung. Also heartbreaking to see all those water damaged houses with roofs or even whole upper levels missing.
Quote:
From what you told me about areas prone to tornadoes - why do they occur in those areas such as the W of both islands & N of the NI and not in other areas? Is it to do with the proximity to the Tasman Sea where clouds coming in directly from the sea can intensify rapidly into severe thunderstorms due to excessive moisture in the atmosphere or from hot/cold fronts colliding?
In this case I think its the combination of the very cold Antarctic air aloft passing over warmer Tasman seas that's creating the convective instability needed to create these tornado producing thunderstorms - the different level wind directions also helped to intensify the storms vortexes. Most of NZ's winds do come from the W so it's not surprising that the W coasts are most affected, however local topography can help sustain or even enhance these vortexes inland. Mt Taranaki can also split upper and lower level wind direction. In the West Coast of the South Island, strong NW winds can be turned NE by the Southern Alps, helping to create the rotation to trigger tornadoes. Tornadoes in the North Island's 'Bay of Plenty' often occur when warm moist surface winds are from the NE while high-altitude cold winds tend more NW.
Quote:
I remember reading a report about a tornado striking the Christchurch suburb of Halswell (in the South Island) in January 1983 & it was mentioned that this was a very rare occurrence especially for E areas of the SI.
Yes, tornadoes on the South Island's E coast are more rare, but they can occur when condtions are favourable eg, when cold air aloft meets land heated NW'ers converging with E'erly sea breezes.

P.S. It appears that pic I posted above was a not so clever fake frown
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/07/2007 14:14

Just an update on the recent Taranaki Tornado Outbreak:

In the worst hit settlement of Oakura, over 60 houses were damaged by the swarm of twisters on Thursday evening - 30 so badly that they'll have to be demolished and rebuilt. And the strikes weren't just confined to coastal Taranaki - apparently, about 10 Stratford houses were also damaged by a twister which roared through the town at about 6pm that night.

According to the The NZ Insurance Council, Thursday's 7 Taranaki twisters, looks set to be one of the most significant and costly tornado storms in NZ's history. Initial estimates of NZ$5 million just for Oakura alone look set to rise. Then there's at least another NZ$2 million caused by the tornado that slammed into central New Plymouth on Wednesday evening. And those figures don't include the flood damage caused by the intense thunderstorms around the rest of Taranaki.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/07/2007 14:55

Quote:
Originally posted by pete25 on July 4:
Looks like Alexandra in South Otago may be getting -12C in the coming week! Also Timaru will be getting down to at least -9C after this huge high settles in...
Hi pete25, think your prediction was a lot closer than MetService's wink
Thought these (mostly Airport) 24 hr MetService obs to 9am this morning might be of interest:

12C ~ 6C Auckland
11C ~ 3C Hamilton
7C ~ 2C Wgtn (Kelburn)
6C ~ -6C Christchurch
7C ~ -5C Timaru
6C ~ -3C Oamaru(Town)
3C ~ -5C Wanaka
4C ~ -7C Queenstown
6C ~ -9C Dunedin
4C ~ -6C Gore EDR
5C ~ -7C Invercargill

Alexandra, was on -8.1C this morn, according to local wx buff 'Andy' who reckons it would've been -10 to -15 up the valley.
Friends of mine skiing near Wanaka reckon it was -14 to -15 yesterday morn where they're staying.
May even be colder in some parts tomorrow morn. eek Brrrrrrrr........
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/07/2007 21:27

Looks like Auckland may experience it's 3rd gale force event this year. E'erly winds gusting to 120 km/h are likely in exposed places N of the Auckland Harbour Bridge during the 24 hrs from Tuesday morn, with falls of 100 to 120mm possible, especially in the E where intensities may reach 10 to 20 mm/hr.
Could be rather interesting here on Waiheke...
Quote:
SEVERE WEATHER WARNING.
ISSUED BY MetService AT 8:38 pm 09-Jul-2007

HEAVY RAIN AND DAMAGING WINDS FOR THE NORTH OF THE NORTH ISLAND

MetService is expecting a low over the north Tasman Sea to deepen and move close to Northland during Tuesday. This low is forecast to bring a period of heavy or even torrential rain to the top of the North Island, together with potentially damaging winds.

Up to 250mm of rain could fall in parts of Northland between Tuesday morning and Wednesday morning, especially about the central and eastern hills. Northern Auckland and the Coromandel Peninsula are likely to receive between 100 and 150mm of rain from late Tuesday morning through to Wednesday afternoon.

As well as the rain, many of these areas should expect damaging easterly winds. Gusts of 120 km/h are likely in exposed areas from the Bay of Islands to the Auckland Harbour Bridge from Tuesday morning until Wednesday morning. About Great Barrier Island and the Coromandel Peninsula, gusts of 130 km/h are possible from Tuesday morning through to Wednesday evening. The Hauraki Plains in the Waikato may also experience gusts of 120 km/h in exposed places between midday Tuesday and midday Wednesday.

These conditions are likely to lead to surface flooding, slips and cause streams and rivers to rise rapidly, especially in parts of Northland. Meanwhile, the winds could damage trees, powerlines and lift roofs. Driving conditions are likely to be extremely hazardous, especially for motocycles and high-sided vehicles. Marine conditions about eastern coasts could be potentially dangerous for small vessels, while poorly secured boats may break their moorings.

People in these areas, especially eastern parts of Northland, are advised to take extra care as this has the potential to be a major weather event.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/07/2007 11:57


12:00pm Tuesday 10 July 2007 (NZST)

Heavy rain and high winds are pounding a large part of the N'n area of the North Island. The Far North District Council says there is widespread flooding, numerous road closures, sewage overflows and slips. The township of Kaeo has been cut off by flood waters, where more than 171 mm fell in just under 11 hours since midnight last night - about double the amount seen anywhere else so far in the Northland region. The council says conditions are worsening and it anticipates Kawakawa, Opua, Paihia, Russell and Kerikeri could be isolated later in the day. In nearby Kawakawa, the hospital is being evacuated and about 15km away, a house in Totara North slipped from its foundations, crushing a car, but there were no injuries reported. There are also a number of weather-related power cuts throughout parts of the North. River levels are rising and widespread flooding is expected. MetService say the intensity of the rain could see flooding and other damage exceed Northlands March storm...
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Posted by: JEFF.H.

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/07/2007 19:16

Yeah its really turning nasty now in NZ. My sister is 1hr west of Auckland and has reported severe wind gusts to 140km/hr causing structural damage to their 2 story farm house including smashed windows and doors. Their caravan ripped free and got tossed 150 meters down the road smashing 2 fences. Power lines have sent sparks and are now down (no power). Rain rates have been incredible along with a high number of CGs. I rang here 5 mins ago and the winds are worsening.... here is the current obs nearest to her
Hauraki Gulf
at 6 pm Tue 10 July
Hauraki Gulf (Channel Island - wind only)
Temperature: C
Wind Speed: 143 km/h
Wind Direction: ESE
SWW by NZ met>
AUCKLAND AND THE COROMANDEL PENINSULA
Severe easterly gales are at their most intense this evening.
Damaging gusts of 150 kilometre/h are likely about the Hauraki Gulf,
including Great Barrier Island and ridgetops on the Coromandel
Peninsula.
Damaging gusts of 140 kilometre/h are also likely in many other parts
of
Auckland and Coromandel Peninsula.
Winds should begin to ease a little during the early morning, then
ease substantially from about dawn on Wednesday.
Stay safe Lil sister xox
Posted by: Squid

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2007 20:30

what a storm almost as bad as TC bola in 1988

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10450943
Posted by: eternal rain

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/07/2007 20:44

sucks about the wind but how about those rain totals, 254mm in 12 hrs, lucky buggers! just shove that low about 2000km further west when youre done thanx laugh
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/07/2007 07:38

Thanks for that great report JEFF.H. I'd be interested to know exactly what area W of Auckland your sister's farm house is in? Btw, the 'Channel Island' obs you cited is from the other side of the Hauraki Gulf, between the tip of the Coromandel Peninsula and Great Barrier Island - otherwise known as the Colville Channel, notorious for it's wind funnelling effects. You probably meant the Tiritiri Island obs, at the end of the Whangaparoa Peninsula on the W'n side of the Hauraki Gulf where peak gusts of 179 km/h were recorded.

Just got the power back last night here Waiheke Island. Although 141,000 Auckland households initially lost power, we were one of the last to have it restored, after nearly 27 hrs. Blackouts are fairly common here on Waiheke during high wind events, mostly caused by fallen trees, but I've never seen so many huge trees downed within such a short time. A huge Macrocarpa fell across the road behind us, taking out power-lines and narrowly missing a house on the other side of the street. All the roads here were littered with tree debris yesterday morn and one would be constantly looking up while listening to the sound of cracking limbs. A few sheets of iron peeled off here and there and another surprising feature was all the wooden gates lying on the ground, still attached to their snapped off posts. Needless to say, ferry crossings were cancelled on Tuesday/Wednesday night.

In financial terms, this would have to be one of the major NZ weather related events in recent times - even more costly than the effects of Cyclone Bola in 1988 and much more than the NZ$80 million insurance bill from the recent March 28/29th Northland floods, due to this storm being much more widespread.

While heavy rain and flooding were the main culprits in Northland, severe winds caused most of the damage around the Auckland area, where just in the CBD itself, reported winds just tipped gale fore, but were much higher across (and on) the Harbour Bridge. On the other side of the Hauraki Gulf, the Coromandel Peninsula reported winds gusts to 200 km/h, ripping the entire roof off a brand new event centre and off dozens of other smaller buildings.

May try to summarise the key points of this storm later - too much info atm.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/07/2007 18:12

eek at those reports. I've been dealing with several family problems recently so haven't been checking the reports lately. I looked at Metservice Auckland Airport's rainfall total - 90mm TD, so the predicted heavy falls of 100mm - 150mm over the AKL area didn't eventuate? Sounds like this system brought heavy rain & flooding to eastern Northland (268mm at Whangarei TD) & damaging gale-force E winds to Auckland but not much rain. Looks like more rain on the way for Northland/Auckland from Sunday onwards with strong E winds. Those E/NE winds can be quite powerful in Auckland, seems to have brought a lot more cloud as well, how you must be missing those sunny & dry SWers Nev smile Sounds like you are taking the rains away from us this month *Grrr* *Laughs*

The NI seems to be bearing the brunt of the bad weather this month so far with numerous tornadoes in Taranaki & the rest and the floods in Northland not to mention the gales in Auckland & rain & howling southerlies in Wellington. Invercargill is having quite settled weather with 35 hrs of sun so far (nearly half the July average) & only 27mm of rain however its been quite frostier with many nights dipping below zero oC with more sunny & frosty weather on the way & a huge lack of SW weather as compared to June.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/07/2007 18:15

Quote:
Originally posted by eternal rain:
sucks about the wind but how about those rain totals, 254mm in 12 hrs, lucky buggers! just shove that low about 2000km further west when youre done thanx laugh
Probably NZ's turn now seeing that we took the rain away from them June - wise :rofl: :rofl:
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/07/2007 18:19

Quote:
Originally posted by Squiddlebum:
what a storm almost as bad as TC bola in 1988

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10450943
Really? Far out - I didn't think it was as bad as TC Bola - the E of the NI was badly affected but I didn't realise it was the same somewhat lesser extend for Northland.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 14/07/2007 07:35

Um, no known intact TC has ever reached NZ waters. By the time Bola affected NZ, it was technically an 'Ex-tropical Cyclone'. After leaving the tropics, TC's typically encounter strong vertical wind shear plus a drop in sea temps and undergo 'transition'. However, like Bola, occasionally these degenerating remnants will combine with a trough of low pressure in our mid-latitude W'erlys and re-intensify to produce a deep depression or 'Cyclone' surrounded by a very large area of damaging winds and heavy rain. It's these 'Ex-tropical Cyclones' and 'Mid-latitude Cyclones', which draw their energy from contrasts in latitude temps, rather than contrasts vertical in temps, that are often the source of NZ's most extreme weather.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/07/2007 14:37

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
...I looked at Metservice Auckland Airport's rainfall total - 90mm TD, so the predicted heavy falls of 100mm - 150mm over the AKL area didn't eventuate? Sounds like this system brought heavy rain & flooding to eastern Northland (268mm at Whangarei TD) & damaging gale-force E winds to Auckland but not much rain. Looks like more rain on the way for Northland/Auckland from Sunday onwards with strong E winds. Those E/NE winds can be quite powerful in Auckland, seems to have brought a lot more cloud as well, how you must be missing those sunny & dry SWers Nev smile Sounds like you are taking the rains away from us this month *Grrr* *Laughs* ...
Hi rainfan, sorry about the belated reply.

Yes, Auckland was spared most of heavier rainfalls during the events of July 10 - 30mm in W Auckland, 23mm in the City (and Waiheke), while only about 7mm at the airport.

Different story in Northland though. In some parts, more rain fell in 1 day than during the few days of rain delivered there by Cyclone Bola in 1988 and winds were just as damaging. On Tuesday (10th), Kaeo recorded the highest rainfall in Northland of 272.5mm (most of that falling in the first 12 hrs), while Whangarei City recorded 180.5mm. Some of the main river levels and floodwaters were also approximately a metre higher than those reached during Cyclone Bola. Last week a 'Northpower' official, struggling to restore parts of the power network, said last weeks storm had had an even greater affect on the companys services and equipment than Cyclone Bola. Repair crews were struggling to deal with the sheer number of lines brought down by hurricane-force winds. Linemen were tramping into some areas, carrying ladders and equipment with them, because slips had closed access tracks and there were no safe landing areas for helicopters. The State Of Emergency that was declared by the District Council at 4.15pm on Tuesday, wasn't lifted until 3pm on Friday.

As mentioned, winds were strongest on the Coromandel Peninsula with gusts of about 200 km/h reported, while a catchment area near the township of Coromandel recorded a 24 hr rainfall of 120mm. The only petrol-station there stayed open as long as possible, using generator power, so folks could fill gas bottles, but decided it was time to close when an attendant got blown right across the forecourt.

There's been some amazing stories in the press, but I've also heard some interesting local stories. Like the commercial barge that disappeared from Coromandel, only to be found 2 days later on the eastern shores of Waiheke Island, some 30km away, still intact and still attached to it's mooring with 2.5 tonne concrete anchor in-tow. Along with 14 Waiheke ferry sailing's, the local bus company also stopped it's service over concerns about the amount of debris flying. Local council staff here had to remove 15 of their trees (only one of which was a native) from blocked roads and downed power-lines. My sister said she lost 11 sheets of roofing iron, while another woman feared her house may burn down when the top part of her flu along with roofing disappeared - luckily hubby arrived and doused the firebox with bottled water. Waiheke Volunteer Fire Brigade chief said one of the most dramatic calls was at 1am on Wednesday when "a 20-foot length of timber had sailed through the air - from where we don't know - and through a roof and ceiling of a house to bury itself in an internal wall".

Nice little downpour of 26.5mm here on Waiheke this morn.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/07/2007 06:30

P.S. Re the expected rain you mentioned for Sunday rainfan - yes, to add to Northland's woes they did get another bout of rain late Sunday to early Monday, causing surface flooding, but mainly in areas S of Whangarei and at Whangarei Heads. MetService said it had not been quite as bad as feared but it was "a significant top-up which they didn't really need". And he warned the situation was not going to improve. Much of Northland would have rain or showers every day this week, with the heaviest downpour likely to come on Friday. Monday's 24 hr obs to 9am shows Whangarei aero recorded another 103mm on top the 214mm they got last week, bringing their months total to 394mm.
wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/07/2007 06:51

Thought this abridged version of yesterday's front page NZ Herald story might be of interest.
(click on headline for full story)
Quote:
Hundreds stranded by storm-damaged cruise ship
5:00AM Monday July 16, 2007
By Errol Kiong - (& Maggie McNaughton)


The Pacific Star's bow was damaged by the 10m waves. Photo / Andrew Read

Hundreds of New Zealanders on a "holiday from hell" have been forced to wait for flights out of Vanuatu because their storm-damaged cruise ship will not return to Auckland. The 1200 passengers on P&O's Pacific Star are still in Vila, after the liner sailed through gale-force winds and swells of up to 10m shortly after leaving Auckland on Tuesday. During the storm 50-knot winds, with gusts up to 70 knots, damaged the ship's bow and some of its windows and external doors, as well as satellite equipment. P&O spokeswoman Sandy Olsen said the bow was being repaired in Vila, before the ship sailed to Brisbane, without passengers, for a thorough inspection. "The ship can sail, but we want to inspect it thoroughly, so we are taking it to Brisbane."...

Passengers became so ill during last week's storm that they were given free doctors' visits and $100 vouchers. Some are now questioning whether the ship should have set off in the first place. Auckland man Ian Trezise - whose wife Jill, stepdaughters Brooke Atkinson and Ellen Walker and sister-in-law Robin Casserly were on board - last night wanted to know who made the call to go ahead. "Who makes the decision to cruise the boat through that bloody storm that everyone knew was coming ... when there was absolutely nowhere to go for shelter?...

MetService duty forecaster Allister Gorman said the first official warning of "storm-force winds" - winds over 50 knots - was issued on Monday at 11am. "It'd only be a few times a year that we'd actually have to issue a warning of this type of strength for the Hauraki Gulf area." ... One passenger said the dream trip to Vanuatu had started like the holiday from hell...

Ms Olsen said the ship had sought shelter behind Great Barrier Island initially, but because of the intensity of the storm had headed out to sea. "In these sorts of circumstances apparently it's often safer to head to sea and you can ride the waves rather than be buffeted closer to the shore. And he slowed the ship down and he took the course of least resistance." He said the ship left the port about 4 o'clock on Tuesday afternoon in winds of about 20-25 knots. The port was closed about two hours later when winds reached 40 knots...

Copyright 2007, APN Holdings NZ Limited
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 23/07/2007 17:19

Cold morning 1 here and up to 14 max,Clouded over just after daybreak then later the SW arrived becoming Strong at times.

Wellington Fine and sunny with 12 and moderate NNE
Christchurch light winds and high 14 Fine there too.
Dunedin 15 fresh W and fine.
Max 16 in Kaikoura and min 9 both Hokitika and Taupo where on the west coast (SI) it has rained for the 1st time in about 3 weeks.
The last 3 or 4 weeks have been good without the nasty SW laugh
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/07/2007 14:48

Moderate W or WSW today with mostly cloudy conditions and few showers then rain set in about 3.30pm with 8/8.Low 9 high 15

Wellington completely fine and sunny with moderate NNE 16

Christchurch moderate NW Fine there and high 19

Dunedin 15 this afternoon with fresh WNW.Fine with high cloud later.

Rain on the west of the SI and from Manawatu north mostly as showers especially in the north.Fine and mild elsewhere.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/07/2007 19:48

Perhaps not quite as severe as the storm we had around the 10th, but could be interesting nonetheless. A period of intense rain is likely for Auckland on Sunday morning. In the 6 hours from about 6am to midday Sunday, 50mm is likely in some northern and eastern parts of Auckland. Rainfall rates of 20mm per hour are possible in thunderstorms.
Quote:
Severe Weather Warnings

Issued by MetService at 08:50pm 28-Jul-2007

BURST OF HEAVY RAIN AND NORTHEAST GALES FOR NORTHERN NEW ZEALAND ON SUNDAY. HEAVY RAIN IS EASING OVER FIORDLAND AND HAS EASED OVER SOUTHERN WESTLAND.

A low over the north Tasman Sea is expected to rapidly deepen and move south to lie west of New Zealand on Sunday. A burst of heavy rain and northeast gales is expected to move quickly across Northland early Sunday and then Auckland, Coromandel Peninsula, Bay of Plenty and northern Gisborne later in the day.

The rainfall totals of 50mm for parts of Northland and Auckland are not excessive, but are likely to include some brief thundery downpours of 15 to 25mm per hour. The highest rainfall totals are likely in Coromandel Peninsula, Bay of Plenty and northern Gisborne,where 60 to 90mm could fall. Again, these may include some intense thundery downpours.

People in these areas should watch for rapidly rising streams and rivers.
Driving conditions are also likely to be hazardous for a time with possible slips and surface flooding.

At the other end of the country, a moist northwest flow is bringing heavy rain to Fiordland but this should ease overnight and has already eased over Southern Westland.
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/07/2007 11:52

The mid parts of the South Island are currently experiencing a very warm phase of weather the past week and a bit with no cold weather due in the foreseeable future. Does anyone have any thoughts as to when the next wave of cold fronts that are inevitably going to come will arrive?
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/08/2007 22:49

My brother from Invercargill was over here in Sydney for 2 weeks, he went back last night. He commented that our minimum temps is what Invercargill gets during the day!. He did find the "warm" spell during the middle of the 4th week a bit hot for him laugh

He said they had some really bad frosts with many car accidents earlier on in the month with many people injured by slipping over on the ice.

Looks like it was a much wetter and cloudier month for most of NZ, Whangarei had around 460mm. Not so much in Invercargill (around 70mm), sunshine well above average although with some quite frosty and cold days.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/08/2007 05:33

Yes, Christchurch recorded 20.4C on the 26th, which (along with Gisborne Aero on the 1st) was NZ's highest temp during July. However, during the first 3 weeks of July, many inland South Island locations recorded T-mins below -10.0C, often accompanied by freezing fog and treacherous ice. Lauder in Central Otago recorded the month's lowest temp of -15.4C on the18th and July mean temps over much of the S'ern half of the South Island were at least 1.0 C below average. In contrast, most North Island regions were above average, particularly in the N and E. It was also a month of easterlies, high rainfall and floods in the N and E of the North Island and S of the South Island (particularly in Dunedin on the 30th).

There was another small tornado near New Plymouth in Taranaki on the 31st, tipping a truck along with it's two four-tonne trailer units and tearing off a buildings roofing iron as well as crumpling it's large roller doors. That's a total of at least 10 tornadoes in Taranaki for July, plus 1 in Auckland and 1 in Tauranga. NIWA says that "the episode of 4-5 July 2007 was the first time that a swarm of at least seven or more damaging tornadoes has been recorded in New Zealand, all within a 24 hour period.

Another interesting stat from NIWA is that the 180 km/h easterly gusts recorded just N of Auckland on the 10th, on average, only occur about once every 20 years.

Below are NIWA's July 2007 main centre climate stats (which hopefully should be online sometime today):

Auckland
T-Mean: 11.8C (+0.9 of norm)
Rainfall: 190mm (130% of norm)
Sunshine: 124hrs (95% of norm)

Hamilton
T-Mean: 10.2C (+1.3 of norm)
Rainfall: 158mm (123% of norm)
Sunshine: 120hrs (99% of norm)

Wellington
T-Mean: 8.6C (-0.3 of norm)
Rainfall: 177mm (130% of norm)
Sunshine: 99hrs (84% of norm)

Christchurch
T-Mean: 5.9C (+0.1 of norm)
Rainfall: 66mm (91% of norm)
Sunshine: 103hrs (83% of norm)

Dunedin
T-Mean: 6.3C (-0.3 of norm)
Rainfall: 122mm (182% of norm)
Sunshine: 128hrs (126% of norm)

wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/08/2007 10:09

Here's NIWA's Climate Summary for July 2007 . The more detaild pdf version also includes a very good summary of NZ's tornado, storm and flood events on page 5 & 6 - one of the most interesting I've read for a while.

Btw, NIWAs central Auckland 'Owairaka' site recorded a T-min of -0.8C on July 23rd (as did Waiheke) and a T-max of 17.8C on the 16th.
:nerd:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/08/2007 10:29

NIWA July summary:

http://niwavessels.co.nz/ncc/cs/0707sum.pdf

Oops, didn't see Nev's post above.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 02/08/2007 12:38

I see that YTD values for rainfall are still below average for Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch - and these 3 plus Dunedin are still ahead of their sunshine averages.

Rainfan: The In'gill sun anomaly didn't make the mentioned list, perhaps was just under 120%.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/08/2007 06:20

Rain was widespread yesterday virtually had the whole country covered.Here temps were 10 to 17 with fresh NE then fresh NW later.
max 20 in Whangarei where it cleared earlier and 6 in Alexandra.About 8 in Christchurch and Dunedin with rain and lighter winds.Wellington had rain also.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/08/2007 12:26

Not so in Auckland? Auckland Aero recorded 14mm falling in the few hours prior to 9am yesterday, which consisted of some heavy falls and a brief thunderstorm just before 9am. Only another 2.6mm was recorded to 9am this morn, which included the very odd light afternoon shower and another brief fall of rain around sunset last night. And apart from a strong but very brief squall around 9:20am yesterday, winds were only light to moderate during the morn. NNW'ers did freshen for a time later in the day however.

Hamilton Aero fared a little better with 42mm from 9am yesterday. The rainband moved across Wellington yesterday afternoon, with 13mm recorded in Kelburn, and hit Christchurch later in the afternoon delivering a total of 34mm to the airport, while Dunedin and Invercargill only managed 3mm. Both Christchurch Aero and Dunedin Aero recorded T-maxs of 9C yesterday.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 06/08/2007 08:04

In todays herald Waiheke received 15.7mm mtd(39.4) last 7 days
Pukekohe which is closer to me 58.3(66.4) or Waiuku 67.2(72.0) with 35mm in Waiuku Sat4th.All others except Orewa are in between 15.6(28.1)
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2007 17:39

Reading the July's summary - interesting that Auckland has recorded again like June above average temps with the SI being mostly near average but not as cold as June. Dunedin (this must be one of the very rare occasions of when it tops the sunshine for all 5 main centres) recorded well above average sunshine which would seem to correlate with that of Invercargill, last time I looked at stuffnz from memory it was about 110 hrs, not to worry Rwood - we can check it on the "Database" later on smile I see Wellington had 99 hrs of sun - you would have loved it here in Sydney when we had 224 hrs. Great rain totals with all but Christchurch recording over 100mm for the month.

Looks like a warm spell of sunny and dry weather atm for nearly all of NZ with milder NW winds.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/08/2007 18:59

Fortunately I missed the dullest part of July, being overseas, so I couldn't complain esepcially as my holiday weather was perfect for me. This month is much brighter so far. smile
Posted by: UK Steve

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/08/2007 05:21

Some parts of NZ had higher sunshine totals than parts of the UK during July, which is amazing since it's summer here.

The town of Aberdeen in Scotland (at a latitude of 57N) recorded just 79 hours of sunshine in June (lower than December 2006's total of 88 hrs), and only 103 hours in July. (The highest temperature there during that period was just 22.5C)

Data from climate-uk
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 12/08/2007 07:50

UK Steve, various NZ locations have at times recorded very low summer month totals too. Pride of place would be the 60 hrs recorded at Waimate in December 1959, about 13% of the recordable amount at the site (frequent onshore NE flows, one passage of a depression across the area and persistent low cloud during an anticylonic period in the last 7-10 days of the month). In June of the same year, Waimate managed 161 hrs. The record high for July in NZ is 231 hrs at Blenheim in 1952 (about 84% of the possible).
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 13/08/2007 12:44

Interesting article about a lightning strike in S Auckland at about 10:30am yesterday.

A 29 year old woman was knocked off her feet and left dazed when the bolt hit a tree above her and "exploded". Tree debris scattered over 6 properties, some ending up 100m away, while one piece went through the side of the woman's house. The force of the strike was so loud residents feared a plane had crashed or that a P lab had exploded. Neighbouring windows were also shattered and electrical appliances left smouldering. Another resident said "The TV's been blown away from the wall and there's a hole in the wall"...

Full NZ Herald Story: \'Lightning forces families from homes\'
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 16/08/2007 20:47

Todays weather there was a cold NE flow across the country and brought strong NE with Rain to Auckland particarly in the afternoon and night.Low 10 High 14

Wellington cloud increasing.little wind.12
Christchurch and Dunedin 10 and 11 respective with ENE winds mostly and mainly fine with high cloud.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/08/2007 12:46

Rain and winds have eased over central Auckland today and there's even a bit of sun around, but for the last 2 days NE winds have been around 35 kts, gusting to 45 kts on Auckland's Waitemata Harbour. Last night's 9pm obs at Tiritiri Lighthouse, just N of the city, showed gusts to 49 kts (91 km/h). Tree branches were down in some parts of Auckland and powerlines were knocked down in Massey, west Auckland, and Milford on the North Shore.

In the 24 hours to 9am, Auckland Aero recorded 33m while in Northland, Whangarei got 45mm, Kerikeri's western hills had 82.5mm and previously flood ravaged Kaeo "escaped another inundation", although it had 77.5mm of rain in 12 hours to late yesterday.

In Wellington, police said flooding on roads and reduced visibility was causing problems for morning commuters.

More details in this NZ Herald story - \'Northland, Auckland hit by storm\'
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Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/08/2007 20:12

I've just finished speaking to one of my best mate whom lives in Auckland (Kohimarama near Mission Bay), he tells me its been quite wet, cloudy and cold this month (August) so far with plenty of strong & cold E winds, he said that July has atm felt much warmer than August - can you confirm for me please?.

Brother in Invercargill (I daren't reveal his name should he become a libel lawyer one day) tells me the weather since he got back hasn't been too bad - quite milder than opposed to of August last year & very few spells of SW weather, so I checked the rain/sunshine figures for IVC - 40mm and 63 hrs of sun so far this month. He was over here for 2 weeks recently, he commented that he wouldn't move back to Sydney - he has built a great life in IVC and even got a kiwi girlfriend, he has even bought his own house down there and is very happy down there - I must say that kind of surprised me as I didn't think he would last that long down there, but he's so contented down there so as long as he is happy then that's the main thing - I do get a bit envious because from what he has told me they have more changeable weather - far more than we have here in Sydney & he seems to like wearing winter woolies a lot LOL.

Have you looked at the NIWA database re Waiheke Island rainfall records since 1914? I have downloaded & printed them but not as yet read them & but from a quick glance, it looks quite interesting.
Its really great that NIWA decided to make their data free although I'm wondering what brought this on? Was it because of the excessive fees that the NZ Goverment decided to release it all freely to all NZ & International patrons?

How much hours of sun so far this month? I see that June had 118 hrs (already discussed), but am yet to get the final total for July.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/08/2007 20:42

July - refer the NIWA summary link (though provisional). The govt. decided that the hyper-charging nonsense introduced at the end of the 80s had gone on long enough, as I understand things. There will still be a smallish charge I think for data which is the result of further analysis and summary, i.e. not directly stored - but I'll be testing that situation later (e.g. annual summaries for all stations for a given climate parameter).

PS - mixed reactions from those who move to Invercargill - a Herald article trumpeting some Shadbolt stuff brought quite a range of reactions. Some liked it, some others hated the cold and (relatively) cloudy changeability - horses for courses.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 17/08/2007 21:41

Yeah, well him (my brother that is ) said its much cheaper to buy a house down there, he bought a 3 bedroom house with a 2 car garage + nearly an acre garden for $75,000 NZ bucks - it sounds pretty cheap by Oz standards but the quite poor weather is one of the main contributing factors in cheaper Southland house prices?

There is a woman who hails from Invercargill and we work together, she tells me she loves the weather especially the numerous days of sunshine here, but she wants to go go back to Invercargill because all her family live there and believe me, she has been complaining endlessy about going back to NZ over the last few months, I remarked to her - well whats stopping you ? Go back then and guess what she is moving back to IVC after 15 years here - she moved back to IVC a week ago and we have still been keeping in touch via email and she is vey happy there for now...

BTW a new man has started work with us and he hails from Wellington (Seatown?), he moved to Sydney 2 weeks ago with his family, we got talking and he mentioned that WGT rarely gets good weather & temps even in summer - over 21oC is a heatwave???, I pointed out that that WGT had over 2000 hours of sunshine which wasn't too bad for a country with a maritime climate(and for a capital for that matter), he then proceeded to say "the wind keeps the temps much lower and makes the climate much dreadful and how happy he was to leave WGT with his family and be living in Sydney..., but bear in mind he was actually born in Christchurch as was his wife, so I said you are definitely happy in Sydney atm - wait a few years later then you maay feel differently.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 06:24

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Yeah, well him (my brother that is ) said its much cheaper to buy a house down there, he bought a 3 bedroom house with a 2 car garage + nearly an acre garden for $75,000 NZ bucks - it sounds pretty cheap by Oz standards but the quite poor weather is one of the main contributing factors in cheaper Southland house prices?

There is a woman who hails from Invercargill and we work together, she tells me she loves the weather especially the numerous days of sunshine here, but she wants to go go back to Invercargill because all her family live there and believe me, she has been complaining endlessy about going back to NZ over the last few months, I remarked to her - well whats stopping you ? Go back then and guess what she is moving back to IVC after 15 years here - she moved back to IVC a week ago and we have still been keeping in touch via email and she is vey happy there for now...

BTW a new man has started work with us and he hails from Wellington (Seatown?), he moved to Sydney 2 weeks ago with his family, we got talking and he mentioned that WGT rarely gets good weather & temps even in summer - over 21oC is a heatwave???, I pointed out that that WGT had over 2000 hours of sunshine which wasn't too bad for a country with a maritime climate(and for a capital for that matter), he then proceeded to say "the wind keeps the temps much lower and makes the climate much dreadful and how happy he was to leave WGT with his family and be living in Sydney..., but bear in mind he was actually born in Christchurch as was his wife, so I said you are definitely happy in Sydney atm - wait a few years later then you maay feel differently.
...He (the ex-Wellington person from Ch'ch.) can stay away for good as far as I am concerned. I quite like Christchurch and have had family connections there for 30 years or so, but could just as easily point out its climatic flaws - cold E/NE winds that affect most parts of the city, winter frosts and smog, etc. On the other hand if you don't like rain its rainfall is reasonably lowish. My minimum criterion for living there would be to have a house on the hills facing west, so as to avoid both the worst of the NE winds and the smog [My brother's work sometimes required him to visit a school on the higher slopes of Mount Pleasant - he nicknames it "Mt Unpleasant" because of the NE exposure. He lived in Brisbane for about 4 years in the early 1980s and has no illusions about any NZ place - likes sun and warmth]. Over the years I have heard all sorts of personal preferences and a lot of exaggerated crap about the climates of all sorts of places, but the answer to all complaints is simple - LEAVE!!!! :rolleyes:

BTW, that comment about 21C is bullshit. The average daily high is 21C in Jan & Feb. for Kelburn, less in the highest spots, and about 1C warmer at least in Lower Hutt (where the nights are at least correspondingly cooler).
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 14:03

I recall somewhere a long time ago that I asked one of you Kiwis (I think it was NZAAS) what's the warmest it would get in Auckland and the reply I got was generally 26-27 in most summers, though 30+C may be reached every 2 years or so. A little cooler than I thought, given its latitude. But that probably shouldn't be surprising, as Auckland's sandwiched between the Tasman and the Bay of Plenty.

But what about other coastal cities in NZ like Wellington, Napier, Christchurch and Invercargill, and how much hotter will inland places such as Hamilton, Rotorua and Queenstown get during hot days?

Are there actually truly semi-arid areas in South Island, as the Southern Alps is an even higher mountain range than anything Australia has?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 14:12

Although a little out of date, the following will answer most of your questions, though it doesn't give an "average max. temp reached in summer", just the average daily maxs. and the all-time maxs.

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=dataclimatesummaries192937
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 14:25

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
I've just finished speaking to one of my best mate whom lives in Auckland (Kohimarama near Mission Bay), he tells me its been quite wet, cloudy and cold this month (August) so far with plenty of strong & cold E winds, he said that July has atm felt much warmer than August - can you confirm for me please?.
Hi rainfan, I'd say about the only thing your mate in 'Kohi' got right was that, so far for August, average daily wind-speeds there are higher than July. Although, winds have been predominately from the W this month, the strongest winds have been from the NE and to lesser degree the NW (rather surprising when you consider that roughly half of July's winds came from the E'erly quarter, not to mention the NE 'hurricne-force' event on the 10th).

As for the other comments, going by nearby St Heliers data...
The average daily T-max for July was 15.5C and for Aug is 16.7 C
The average daily T-min for July was 9.4C and for Aug is 9.5C
The average daily rainfall for July was 4.7mm and for Aug is 3.8mm
The average daily sunshine for July was 4.0hrs and for Aug is 5.2hrs (Cen. Akld)
laugh

August at the airport is warmer than July also. Here's a few more stats...

Auckland Aero - Monthly stats for August to9am, Sat Aug 18

Average. T-max.. 15.5C (norm 14.8C)
Average. T-min... 9.3C (norm. 8.0C)
Average. T-mean. 12.4C (norm 11.4C)

Highest. T-max.. 18.2C
Lowest.. T-max.. 13.0C

Lowest.. T-min... 5.3C
Highest. T-min.. 13.0C

Rainfall 77.2 mm

August Sunshine to 16th
83.4 hrs - Auckland
78.9 hrs - Wellington
71.8 hrs - Christchurh
smile
Posted by: Mike in Canada

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 14:43

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Although a little out of date, the following will answer most of your questions, though it doesn't give an "average max. temp reached in summer", just the average daily maxs. and the all-time maxs.

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=dataclimatesummaries192937
That'll do, anyways, even if you can't find anything more up to date. Thanks. I haven't seen the MetService site in ages!

There's a place called Waiouru listed as having an altitude of 823 m - is this the highest inhabited place in NZ?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 14:52

Of "town size", it would be, as far as I know.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 18/08/2007 15:00

Rainfan, Nev's reply correcting your mate's impressions of the weather in Auckland (July vs. August) simply reinforce what I've experienced for aeons - the average individual has a hopelessly subjective, biased and inaccurate recall of weather in general - most can barely remember a week, and their impressions often depend on which days they spent outdoors the most, the weekend weather, etc.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/08/2007 09:41

Oops sorry rainfan, there's a typo on that 'St Heliers' data - should have read:
"The average daily T-max for July was 15.5C and for Aug is 16.1C"

Agree RWood, However, I think meteorologists do recognise 'human perception' to some degree - hence the more recently introduced 'heat-index' - and to be fair, more wind probably also means lower 'wind-chill temps'. After enjoying temps up to 19.6C about a week ago, T-maxs at St Heliers dropped to about 14C from Tues, then strong NE'ers on Wed combined with rain on Thu, would've produced relatively lower 'wind-chill temps'. Perhaps also there was some local sea breeze convergence during the month, producing few more isolated convective clouds than in more central areas. Who knows!

rainfan - NIWA did include July 31 sunshine obs in their July summary cool
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 19/08/2007 10:29

Fair enough - but perhaps the guy had mostly the impression of the last few days in his mind?
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/08/2007 11:36

Just got back from 2 weeks of holidays in the South Island, stayed in Sheffield about 50km's outside of Christchurch and got about 5cm of snow on the 13th of August and a cracking -10C frost on the morning of the 15th, left a glass of water outside and it was frozen bloke solid by 1am in the morning....
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 21/08/2007 14:53

We had a low of 3 here and high 15,Was sunny and little wind much of the day but Unfortunately the SW Has Arrived though moderate at this stage with 8/8.

Metservice 3 pm temps in Wellington 12 Fresh N fine
Christchurch fine,light NE 12 and Dunedin cloudy with rain though was fine this morn.3pm 7
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 25/08/2007 15:42

Quote:
Originally posted by pete25:
Just got back from 2 weeks of holidays in the South Island, stayed in Sheffield about 50km's outside of Christchurch and got about 5cm of snow on the 13th of August and a cracking -10C frost on the morning of the 15th, left a glass of water outside and it was frozen bloke solid by 1am in the morning....
Don't know much about inland Sheffield, but yes, so far the 15th was the coldest day of August at Christchurch Airport, with a T-min of -4.7C and T-max of just 6.4C (highest Aug temp of 18.9C was on the 9th and 10th).

Here in Auckland, despite a week of averagely moderate max SW'ers, Auckland Aero temps have been relatively normal, with T-maxs of 14.1C to 15.3C and of T-mins 4.4C to 12.0C. Also a mix of very sunny days and some fairly cloudy days, with only minuscule amounts of rain (6.4mm in 7days).

Still above normal temps overall for August though - here's an update...

Auckland Aero August Obs to9am, Sat25th

Average. T-max.. 15.3C (norm 14.8C)
Average. T-min... 8.8C (norm. 8.0C)
Average. T-mean. 12.1C (norm 11.4C)

Highest. T-max.. 18.2C (11th)
Lowest.. T-max.. 13.0C (7th)

Lowest.. T-min... 4.4C (24th)
Highest. T-min.. 13.0C (12th)

Rainfall 83.6 mm (Aug norm 109.2 mm)

August Sunshine to 23rd
125.6 hrs - Auckland
118.7 hrs - Wellington
116.5 hrs - Christchurch

smile
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/08/2007 09:41

MetService have finally issued warnings for an approaching low N of NZ, and although it appears Auckland may escape the brunt of it, things may get a little more interesting here on Waiheke Island, as we're halfway between the city and the Coromandel Peninsula, where 80 to 100 mm is expected from 6am to 6pm Monday (fairly sunny here atm though).
Quote:
Severe Weather Warning

Issued by MetService at 09:29am 26-Aug-2007

HEAVY RAIN EXPECTED ON MONDAY FOR COROMANDEL PENINSULA BAY OF PLENTY AND GISBORNE NORTH OF RUATORIA

A low north of the Tasman Sea is moving southeast and is expected to lie close to Cape Reinga Monday night.
Rain is expected to spread over Northland today, and move quickly further south Monday morning. A strong northeast flow will bring mild moist air from the subtropics with the likelihood of heavy rain for Coromandel Peninsula, much of the Bay of Plenty and northern areas of Gisborne.
People in these areas should watch for rapidly rising streams and rivers on Monday.
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 26/08/2007 21:43

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Although a little out of date, the following will answer most of your questions, though it doesn't give an "average max. temp reached in summer", just the average daily maxs. and the all-time maxs.

http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=dataclimatesummaries192937
A major thing to note here for those unfamiliar with NZ is that the highest extremes happen on the east side of both islands in W/NW flow as a result of fohn effects. The February 1973 event (which saw temperatures in the 41-43 range at several locations in the Christchurch area) was truly extraordinary - I can't think of any other instance anywhere of a national record being broken by such a margin (about 4 degrees). I don't think it has reached 40 in NZ since - there was a report of 41 a couple of years ago but from memory I think the instrument was found to be faulty.

The inland South Island doesn't get extremes quite as high as the east coast but can get consistent heat - somewhere like Alexandra can get multiple successive days in the 30s, which doesn't happen on the coast.

As for the newly free data, I'm not sure what the exact background was within the bureaucracy (and the situation in NZ is complicated by the fact that NIWA, who archive the climate data, and MetService, who measure some of it, are separate organisations). We're starting to see quite a lot of countries do this - probably at least in part because the marginal cost of data provision over the internet is minimal. My understanding is that the Bureau has decided in principle to go the same way as NZ - the holdup is finding the resources to set up the system.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 27/08/2007 06:44

Correct Blair, the 41 reported for Darfield a couple of years or so back was wrong. Alexandra recorded 38.7C, a new record locally, in Feb. 2005. In the case of Christchurch Gardens, the 41.6C recorded on 7/2/1973 beat the previous record by no less than 5.4C!!

The cost of data provision over the internet must be minimal - the NZ free service just allows you to download data that is already in their database tables in the appropriate form. I cannot emphasise enough how much damage was done by the ideologues of the 1980s - and I still suspect them of getting some materials (periodicals, mainly) back from some libraries to prevent free browsing. The "complication" you refer to need never have been brought about in the first place.

PS - I don't trust politicians, and am making damned sure I fully exploit the free access situation, just in case some tosser decides to changes things yet again.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 28/08/2007 15:33

Horrible cold strong SW for us and min 11 high 14 8/8 with light showers all morning but some sunny periods in the afternoon.

Wellington rain and cloud cleared during the day with it becoming fine,Fresh S to SSW 12 recorded at MS.

Christchurch 3pm temp 8 fresh SSW and cloudy
Dunedin mainly cloudy with 12 fresh WSW
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 29/08/2007 07:40

Perhaps NZAAS was talking about 'wind-chill' temps yesterday, or maybe it just seemed cold after a T-max of 18.6C the day before? Temps in Auckland were still above normal in Auckland yesterday, however winds did very briefly reach 'gale-force' at Akld Aero about 7:15pm last night.

Here's yesterday's official temps...

Auckland: T-max 15.0C, T-min 12.4C
Wellington: T-max 12.9C, T-min 8.5C
Christchurch: T-max 9.6C, T-min 2.9C
Dunedin: T-max 13.3C, T-min 6.2C

Temps were kept down at Christchurch Aero due to morning fog, which didn't lift until midday, and afternoon cloud.

For August so far, temps in both Wgtn and Chch have been about normal, although it appears Wgtn has already well exceeded it's normal sunshine hours...

NIWA's August Sunshine Obs to 27th
136.7 hrs - Auckland
151.8 hrs - Wellington
152.1 hrs - Christchurch

P.S. Great view of the eclipse from here on Waiheke, apart from the odd cloud (and shower) blatting past at near gale speed earlier.

wink
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/08/2007 07:17

Strong WSW or SW all day yesterday with partly cloudy weather and they Screamed again all night Low 12 overnight thurs.Official temps etc
Akl 11.3 to 16.1 max wind 59 sun mtd144.5
Wn 7.4 15.0 NW 70 MTD 164.7
Chch -0.1 14.5 SW 46 mtd 163.9.
Dunedin 7.2 11.9 SW 52 no mtd data.
Sunny and hazy this morn. 15 current
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/08/2007 07:35

Expect to get at least 175 hrs sun this month, maybe 180 if today doesn't cloud over till late afternoon. 175 would be about 7= highest in over 100 years of records.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/08/2007 21:57

Yes, Wellington's had a great month by the looks - that's about 130% of normal sunshine with about 80% of normal rainfall, although average mean temps look about normal.

Auckland's probably had about 153 sunshine hrs (110% of normal), about normal rainfall and mean temps nearly 1C above normal.

Christchurch's also had about 110% of normal sunshine hrs, less than 70% normal rainfall and mean temps nearly 0.5C above normal.


Also interesting to see the month ending with well above normal temps of 22C today in the lower E and cen. South Island (i.e. Dunedin, Oamaru, Timaru, Ashburton and Alexandra), thanks to a fohn NW'er.

The odd days of gusty SW'ers in Auckland this week have gradually eased off today.

Here's a few more of today's T-maxs (which ain't bad for the last day of winter)...

Kaitaia: 19C
Auckland: 17C
Hamilton: 16C
Tauranga: 18C
Napier: 19C
Wellington: 16C
Nelson: 18C
Christchurch: 15C
Invercargill: 17C

cool
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 31/08/2007 23:56

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
[b] Yeah, well him (my brother that is ) said its much cheaper to buy a house down there, he bought a 3 bedroom house with a 2 car garage + nearly an acre garden for $75,000 NZ bucks - it sounds pretty cheap by Oz standards but the quite poor weather is one of the main contributing factors in cheaper Southland house prices?

There is a woman who hails from Invercargill and we work together, she tells me she loves the weather especially the numerous days of sunshine here, but she wants to go go back to Invercargill because all her family live there and believe me, she has been complaining endlessy about going back to NZ over the last few months, I remarked to her - well whats stopping you ? Go back then and guess what she is moving back to IVC after 15 years here - she moved back to IVC a week ago and we have still been keeping in touch via email and she is vey happy there for now...

BTW a new man has started work with us and he hails from Wellington (Seatown?), he moved to Sydney 2 weeks ago with his family, we got talking and he mentioned that WGT rarely gets good weather & temps even in summer - over 21oC is a heatwave???, I pointed out that that WGT had over 2000 hours of sunshine which wasn't too bad for a country with a maritime climate(and for a capital for that matter), he then proceeded to say "the wind keeps the temps much lower and makes the climate much dreadful and how happy he was to leave WGT with his family and be living in Sydney..., but bear in mind he was actually born in Christchurch as was his wife, so I said you are definitely happy in Sydney atm - wait a few years later then you maay feel differently.
...He (the ex-Wellington person from Ch'ch.) can stay away for good as far as I am concerned. I quite like Christchurch and have had family connections there for 30 years or so, but could just as easily point out its climatic flaws - cold E/NE winds that affect most parts of the city, winter frosts and smog, etc. On the other hand if you don't like rain its rainfall is reasonably lowish. My minimum criterion for living there would be to have a house on the hills facing west, so as to avoid both the worst of the NE winds and the smog [My brother's work sometimes required him to visit a school on the higher slopes of Mount Pleasant - he nicknames it "Mt Unpleasant" because of the NE exposure. He lived in Brisbane for about 4 years in the early 1980s and has no illusions about any NZ place - likes sun and warmth]. Over the years I have heard all sorts of personal preferences and a lot of exaggerated crap about the climates of all sorts of places, but the answer to all complaints is simple - LEAVE!!!! :rolleyes:

BTW, that comment about 21C is bullshit. The average daily high is 21C in Jan & Feb. for Kelburn, less in the highest spots, and about 1C warmer at least in Lower Hutt (where the nights are at least correspondingly cooler). [/b]
RWood, my thoughts exactly. I had to put it down for you as I wanted your response to show him, because frankly he has been very irritating and annoying with his never-ending negative comments about WGT's weather, he even went as far as persuading us not to bother going over to WGT for holidays, I sort of had a blow up with him over this, I said that I have been in regular conversations with a bloke from WGT who is indeed a very qualified climatologist who has taught me quite a bit about WGT's climate & that I have read WGT's data & I have been to WGT during good (March 2001) and bad (June 1995) periods of weather - it's like what we get here in Sydney & it's not all that bad as you are making it out to be, to cut short a long story, he said climate data do not really represent an accurate picture of one's climate - I said you may not think so but I as well as the majority of weather/climate enthusiants believe otherwise - ie one only needs to look at the sunshine & rainfall figures - one can by looking at those figures most of the time get the full picture. He also reckons that CHCH has higher summer max & mean temps than that of WGT.

He seems really intent on rubbishing WGT's climate without listening to sensible reasoning - I've left it at that for now as I can't be bothered arguing with him about the merits of WGT's climate, I really wish he could meet you as I know you would cut him short LOL.

I know one is entitled to thier own opinion of the weather but not when it doesn't correlate with actual figures from offical databases & I do know when people tend to exaggerate for their own benefit.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2007 00:15

Quote:
Originally posted by RWood:
Rainfan, Nev's reply correcting your mate's impressions of the weather in Auckland (July vs. August) simply reinforce what I've experienced for aeons - the average individual has a hopelessly subjective, biased and inaccurate recall of weather in general - most can barely remember a week, and their impressions often depend on which days they spent outdoors the most, the weekend weather, etc.
Exactly - that's why I asked Nev because he as a real weather observer gives a more accurate view of how the weather has been & my mate's comments about the weather didn't really correlate with those of actual figures.

However it looks like WGT has done quite well this August with excess sunshine & below average rainfall, Auckland also with below average rainfall but sunshine a bit more above average but not as much as WGT and CHC.

Temps - will wait for NIWA's summary, from what I've read & heard - AKL probably above average but WGT and CHC especially the former below average?

IVC with 126 hrs and 77mm. Invercargill has been consistently recording average to above average sunshine hours this year so far.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2007 06:44

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
...Auckland also with below average rainfall but sunshine a bit more above average but not as much as WGT and CHC.

Temps - will wait for NIWA's summary, from what I've read & heard - AKL probably above average but WGT and CHC especially the former below average?
Hi rainfan - sorry, I did rather hastily miscalculate Chch's temps, however I reckon both Wgtn and Chch were about normal, so I'll also be interested to see how they tally with NIWA's August summary. Below is my more detailed temp summary of the 3 largest NZ city regions.

Auckland Aero

Average. T-max.. 15.4C (norm 14.8C)
Average. T-min... 9.0C (norm. 8.0C)

Highest. T-max.. 18.6C (27th)
Lowest.. T-max.. 13.0C (7th)
Lowest.. T-min... 4.4C (24th)
Highest. T-min.. 13.0C (12th)

Wellington, Kelburn

Average. T-max.. 12.0C (norm 12.0C)
Average. T-min... 6.3C (norm 6.5C)

Highest. T-max.. 15.0C (30th)
Lowest.. T-max... 8.0C (13th)
Lowest.. T-min... 2.2C (15th)
Highest. T-min.. 11.5C (11th)

Christchurch Aero

Average. T-max.. 12.2C (norm 12.1C)
Average. T-min... 1.7C (norm. 2.0C)

Highest. T-max.. 18.9C (9th & 10th)
Lowest.. T-max... 6.4C (13th)
Lowest.. T-min.. -4.7C (15th)
Highest. T-min.. 10.0C (11th)


Re sunshine figures - Akld totals may be below both Wgtn and Chch, but I reckon both Akld and Chch will both be about 113% of normal. Won't have yesterday's obs until Mon, but Akld may have had about 4 hrs yesterday and Chch close to zero.

NIWA's August Sunshine Obs to 30th
153.2 hrs - Auckland (norm 139.3 hrs)
171.9 hrs - Wellington (norm 135.7 hrs)
166.8 hrs - Christchurh (norm 148.0 hrs)


Re rainfall figures - Yes Auckland Aero totals are below normal, but NIWA's figures are based on their more central 'Owairaka' site, of which I don't have conplete figures, so I'm guessing they're either slightly below normal or about normal.

wink
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2007 07:05

P.S. The list of T-maxs I posted for towns around NZ yesterday were 'unofficial', so before I'm accused of doing an NZAAS, officially, Auckland Aero was 15.7C, Kelburn in Wgtn was 14.5C and Napier Aero 18.4C.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2007 10:47

Quote:
Originally posted by Nev:


Re sunshine figures - Akld totals may be below both Wgtn and Chch, but I reckon both Akld and Chch will both be about 113% of normal. Won't have yesterday's obs until Mon, but Akld may have had about 4 hrs yesterday and Chch close to zero.

[
wink [/QB]
Re sunshine: "STUFF" doesn't publish the numbers for the last day of the month, but I reckon Kelburn's total will be 181-182 hrs.

In city records going back to 1906, only these have been higher:

1935 204
2005 194
1993 187

Mind you, as this will be the 13th time in 15 years that we've exceeeded the mean, in many cases quite substantially, it's become a temporary habit.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 01/09/2007 11:12

Hi rainfan:

RWood, my thoughts exactly. I had to put it down for you as I wanted your response to show him, because frankly he has been very irritating and annoying with his never-ending negative comments about WGT's weather, he even went as far as persuading us not to bother going over to WGT for holidays, I sort of had a blow up with him over this, I said that I have been in regular conversations with a bloke from WGT who is indeed a very qualified climatologist who has taught me quite a bit about WGT's climate & that I have read WGT's data & I have been to WGT during good (March 2001) and bad (June 1995) periods of weather - it's like what we get here in Sydney & it's not all that bad as you are making it out to be, to cut short a long story, he said climate data do not really represent an accurate picture of one's climate - I said you may not think so but I as well as the majority of weather/climate enthusiants believe otherwise - ie one only needs to look at the sunshine & rainfall figures - one can by looking at those figures most of the time get the full picture. He also reckons that CHCH has higher summer max & mean temps than that of WGT.

I know one is entitled to thier own opinion of the weather but not when it doesn't correlate with actual figures from offical databases & I do know when people tend to exaggerate for their own benefit.

It's not worth arguing with such people. He sounds as about objective as a Canterbury rugby fan. Many people dislike Chch's climate, but I don't get into such arguments. I'll simply stick with what I said, plus this observation on mean max/min/dailies:

I've included a Ch'ch hill station which has a similar altitude to Kelburn. And if he starts rabbitting on about windchill, I saw a study years ago that put W'gton & Ch'ch about equal.
These numbers are for January - February actually puts W'gton in a better light , as it is up 0.2-0.3C on January, while Ch'ch drops by a similar amount. (mean tmax, mean tmin, mean for a 30-year period).

More sheltered parts of lower W'gton elevations get similar temps. to the Aero, with a lot less wwind.

W'gton Aero 20.9 16.4 17.7
Ch'ch gardens 22.5 12.2 17.4
Ch'ch Aero 22.3 12.0 17.1
Wallaceville 21.7 12.3 17.0 (U Hutt valley)
Kelburn 20.4 16.4 16.9
Mt Pleasand 20.8 12.7 16.8

The whole argument is silly anyway - neither place could make any kind of claim to being other than temperate, with annual means below the global average. If you spent a few days in Ch'ch in a dull drizzly easterly spell, you wouldn't be enchanted - but that's just one aspect. My brother who spent a few years in Brisbane reckons he took about 15 years to re-adapt to a colder place.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/09/2007 04:16

Here's a small preview of NIWA's August 2007 Climate Summary gleaned from their Press Release...

Of the five main centres
Auckland was the warmest, Dunedin the driest, Christchurch the coldest, Hamilton the wettest, and Wellington the sunniest.

Sunshine
Well above average in Wellington, Nelson, and inland South Canterbury.

Temperature
The national average temp of 9.1 C was 0.4C above normal. Temps were above normal over much of the North Island and near average over much of the South Island. NZ's highest T-max was 21.4 C at Rangiora (N of Chch) on the 9th and lowest T-min was -8.4 C at Hanmer Forest on the 20th.

Rainfall
Below normal in the N and E of the South Island, near or above normal in regions exposed to the W. High rainfall at Milford Sound totalled 431mm over the 4 days to 9am on the 12th, and 107 mm at Kerikeri Airport over the 24 hours to 9am on the 17th. Rainfall was less than 33% of normal in S'ern parts of Marlborough, on Banks Peninsula, and inland parts of Otago.

Wind
A month that was windy at times with more (often disturbed) SW'ers than normal, especially to the E. Gale force NW'ers buffeted many central and S'ern NZ regions over the 10th -12th, with several power lines damaged in parts of Otago. Three lows tracked across NZ on the 5th, 17th, and 27th.

:wave:
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 03/09/2007 07:41

Here's the summary, just out:

http://niwavessels.co.nz/ncc/cs/0708sum.pdf
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/09/2007 04:28

Hmm, seems NIWA jumped the gun a bit with it's own Press Release - Dunedin Aero had the country's top temp of 22.2C recorded on the 31st, breaking it's own August record, along with Musselburgh in Dunedin with 21.5C and Oamaru, further up the coast, with 22.0C (although that all looks set to change from today with snow possibly down to low levels).

Just for the record, below are NIWA's August 2007 main centre climate stats...

Auckland
T-Mean: 12.4C (+0.9C of norm)
Rainfall: 107mm (89% of norm)
Sunshine: 159hrs (112% of norm)

Hamilton
T-Mean: 10.4C (+0.6C of norm)
Rainfall: 113mm (99% of norm)
Sunshine: 156hrs (113% of norm)

Wellington
T-Mean: 9.2C (0.0C of norm)
Rainfall: 85mm (69% of norm)
Sunshine: 180hrs (133% of norm)

Christchurch
T-Mean: 6.9C (-0.1C of norm)
Rainfall: 45mm (69% of norm)
Sunshine: 173hrs (117% of norm)

Dunedin
T-Mean: 8.0C (+0.4C of norm)
Rainfall: 25mm (38% of norm)
Sunshine: 135hrs (119% of norm)

smile
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/09/2007 10:59

Snowing heavily in Darfield about a 20 minute drive outside of Christchurch, about 5 - 10 cms on the ground already...as usual the Metservice's prediction of a few flurries down to 300m is WAY off the mark...
Posted by: Blair Trewin

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/09/2007 12:44

The forecast I saw (albeit yesterday) was for heavy snow down to 300 with lighter falls to 100 - if NZ is anything like Australia it's entirely possible that that forecast was mangled by the media in transit.

With very strong high pressure ridging over the South Island there could be some interestingly low minima in areas with snow cover.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 04/09/2007 14:04

The maligned Met has not done badly at all. A TV camera guy has been out in the higher zones and hasn't got much to put into the news bulletins.
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/09/2007 18:14

Rwood - looking at the Aug. weather summary - you would have been quite gleeful of the high sunshine hours for WGT. Interesting that all five main centres recorded excess sunshine above the average with less than avg. rainfall (Except Hamilton with 99% of the normal) in disturbed SW airflows.

Nev - Auckland has measured above average temps for the whole winter season.

June = 0.4oC above average
July = 0.9oC above average
August = 0.9oC above average

In fact, this is also in cahoots with Hamilton, all 3 other main centres have been average to below average by a considerable margin.

Managed to download Invercargill's rainfall data from June to Aug. monthly rainfall today - June had 166mm - the highest total for any June since 1965 (201mm), although those months came fairly close - June 1976 with 163mm, 162mm in 1994 and 163mm in 1995.

I mentioned before that Invercargill has consistently recorded above average sunshine every month for 2007 - an errorous oversight on my part - April saw 97 hrs being measured which is the only month YTD to record below average sunshine with the average being 106 hrs, YTD sunshine total (To end Aug.) is now 1086 hrs and rainfall (YTD) is 724mm.

June 2007 has seen Invercargill measuring its 6th consecutive sunnier than usual total and May with its 5th. Rwood - I remember way back that you mentioned Autumn and Winter were recording more sun than usual especially over the past few years of the decade of the 2000's.
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 05/09/2007 20:34

Yes, that's right, I did make that observation about Aut/Win - with the decadal averages.

Have you seen my comments about downloading In'gill daily obs. on the NZ forum yet?

I enjoyed the high August sun - many pleasant days for the time of year! But it is our 13th August in 15 with at least a bit above average, so at present am almost expecting it.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2007 06:08

Quote:
Originally posted by pete25 (on 4th):
Snowing heavily in Darfield about a 20 minute drive outside of Christchurch, about 5 - 10 cms on the ground already...as usual the Metservice's prediction of a few flurries down to 300m is WAY off the mark...
Thanks for the report Pete, and please don't let me put you off, but I have to agree with Blair. The previous day MetService forecast heavy snow down to 300m (Darfield AWS is 190m) and, according to one news report, the president of Mid-Canterbury Federated Farmers said "The polar blast was a concern, but farmers in the midst of lambing received good warning and were able to take precautions - there will be minor losses, but only minor".

Heavy snow also fell throughout other inland Mid-Canterbury and Otago areas that day and there were flurries in coastal Dunedin, Christchurch and Ashburton. Christchurch went from about 12C at 2am to 2.2C by 10am (0.5C in Darfield) before climbing back to a max of only 6.9C later that day (a few days earlier they were on 19.6C). Yesterday Christchurch Aero recorded a T-min of -4.2C and Dunedin Aero -4.5C. Temps in Auckland have dropped as well - Akld Aero went from a sunny T-max of 18.2 on Tuesday to a drizzly 11.8C on Wednesday - sunny yesterday and this morn though.

:cheers:
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2007 06:21

Quote:
Originally posted by rainfan:
Nev - Auckland has measured above average temps for the whole winter season.

June = 0.4oC above average
July = 0.9oC above average
August = 0.9oC above average

In fact, this is also in cahoots with Hamilton, all 3 other main centres have been average to below average by a considerable margin.
Yes, according to NIWA\'s Winter 2007 National Climate Summary (pdf), it was a season of temperature contrasts (and floods, windstorms and tornadoes).

NZ's national average winter temp of 8.3 C was 0.2C below normal. Throughout the northern half of the North Island, mean temps were at least 0.5C above average and 1.0C above average in parts of Northland and Gisborne. In contrast, inland areas of South Canterbury and Southland were at least 0.5C below average and 1.0C below average in some inland parts of Otago.

Rainfall was more than 150% of normal in some eastern areas of Northland, central Hawke's Bay and North Otago. Whangarei Aero recorded 724mm, their highest rainfall of since 1973.

Sunshine was also well above normal in Otago and inland areas of South Canterbury, particularly Dunedin and Lake Tekapo.

Of the 5 main centres, Auckland was the warmest and wettest, while Christchurch was the driest, sunniest and coldest. Below are NIWA's Winter 2007 five main centre climate stats...

Auckland
T-Mean: 12.1C (+0.8C of norm)
Rainfall: 401mm (105% of norm)
Sunshine: 401hrs (105% of norm)

Hamilton
T-Mean: 10.1C (+0.8C of norm)
Rainfall: 374mm (104% of norm)
Sunshine: 394hrs (109% of norm)

Wellington
T-Mean: 8.9C (-0.3C of norm)
Rainfall: 367mm (90% of norm)
Sunshine: 384hrs (109% of norm)

Christchurch
T-Mean: 6.1C (-0.3C of norm)
Rainfall: 172mm (86% of norm)
Sunshine: 415hrs (1067% of norm)

Dunedin
T-Mean: 6.8C (-0.2C of norm)
Rainfall: 221mm (106% of norm)
Sunshine: 376hrs (125% of norm)

cool
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2007 06:34

Opps, finger slipped - sunshine hrs for for Chch of course should be 106% of norm.

Something also looks a bit fishy about NIWA's Akld rainfall and sunshine obs?
Posted by: RWood

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2007 07:05

Note that the Chch-Dunedin temp. mean comparison is misleading - the Ch'ch one comes from the Aero, which is cooler than any of the other sites around the city and main suburbs, while the Dunedin ones come from Musselburgh, whose maritime location gives it relatively high night minima, producing a mean significantly higher than almost all of the city and suburbs.

I think he "extremes" emphasis is itself overdone - large portions of the country experienced none of those cited.

Yes - the AKL rainfall should read 388. 401 is correct for sunshine.
Posted by: pete28

Re: New Zealand Weather - 07/09/2007 12:22

Thanks for the facts Nev, I must have been looking in the wrong place for the forecast because I definately remember Metservice saying only flurries down to 300m, must have been updated shortly after...

Also could you let me know where you found that overnight temperature data for Christchurch (-4.2C) as Metservice only says -4C overnight min on there website for the previous day, there is no mention of decimal points...thanks heaps Nev
Posted by: Cloudwatcher

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/09/2007 12:36

Hi there from Penrith Oz!!! I have a neighbor from Invergargil, which i have an interest in now, and will probly visit in the not to distant future. Just wondering if there is anyone from there to be able to give a day to day weather report{weekly will do if easier}. Thanks Owen
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 08/09/2007 13:32

www.metservice.co.nz

http://www.fencepost.co.nz/home.jhtml
Invercargill http://www.icc.govt.nz/weather/

Quote:
Originally posted by Cloudwatcher:
Hi there from Penrith Oz!!! I have a neighbor from Invergargil, which i have an interest in now, and will probly visit in the not to distant future. Just wondering if there is anyone from there to be able to give a day to day weather report{weekly will do if easier}. Thanks Owen
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 09/09/2007 15:51

Invercargill http://www.icc.govt.nz/weather/

I totally question the authenticity & quality of the observations on this site:-

1. YTD rainfall stands at 416mm, yet NIWAs Aero site shows the current YTD total at 724mm.

2. MTD rainfall at 5mm - Metservice shows the total to be at 35mm.

3. I wasnt aware that Invercargill City Council does weather observations - as far as I know, all observations nowdays is done at the airport site.

I wouldnt rely on this site at all - rainfall data is just too flawed for my liking.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/09/2007 05:53

A disgraceful month to date especially for sunshine readings,even July fared better.
Currently 6pm yesterday
Ak temp 10.0 13.3 mtd 22.8mm of course S.Ak is double on 50.1mm.(east where waiheke is is most aligned to 17.3mm) sun to date 28.9 and yes its 8/8 this morning.
Hn 7.2 14.8 r 25.8 s na
Rotorua 5.1 13.4 r 19.4 s 38.9
Gisborne 5.5 12.8 r 42.2 s 63.3
Wellington 5.0 11.5 r 18.4 s 57.1
Christchurch 0.4 11.9 r 24.2 s 47.3
Dunedin 6.9 11.8 r23.0 no sun avail.
Winds were SE or E fresh over the country
Posted by: rainfan

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/09/2007 10:47

Invercargill on 48 hrs of sunshine MTD.
Posted by: NZAAS

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/09/2007 14:12

From the Metservice site heres 3pm conditions.
Winds generally light mostly E quater in the S island and Dunedin having moderate-fresh SW 20kmh
and sunny for most.Even here inspite of all the metservices recorded area we are with the 3rd highest Windspeed SSW equal with Castlepoint at 39kmh.Only Cape Reianga SW 57kmh and Hicks Bay 46 S kmh ahead.
Max today in Ak 16 low 8 3pm 15c
Wellington 3pm 12 30kmh SSE
Christchurch mostly fine 11 ENE 11kmh
Dunedin SW 20kmh Fine and 11
Invercargill fresh WSW a few showers 8 at 3pm
Posted by: Cloudwatcher

Re: New Zealand Weather - 10/09/2007 19:56

Thanks for your links NZAAS!! I will have to keep an eye on that rain reading by the council though, i would go along with the Met as the more accurate. Maybe the council site is next to a hill in a rain shadow? Thanks to your input too rainfan! I may run into you at Bondi one day. I get down there every workday now!! Dont get jealous NZAAS,but it was the near perfect day there today.
Posted by: Nev

Re: New Zealand Weather - 11/09/2007 06:39

Hi Cloudwatcher,

You should probably know that NZAAS has a history of using selective data, exaggerating or posting complete BS in order to support his phantom claims that Auckland has suffers from "frequent gale force SW'ers", whereas nothing could be further from the truth. So far this year Auckland has only had 3 gale events, only 1 of which was from the SW (the other 2 were from the W and E).

As for "A disgraceful month to date especially for sunshine readings,even July fared better", all those towns mentioned, except for Auckland, have well above normal sunshine hrs to date, but then those figures are only for the first 8 days of Sep. Auckland's Sep mean temps, although slightly below normal, are still higher than July's average and rainfall to date is below average. We also haven't had any of July's tornadoes, floods or even high winds (39km/h is not that high).

And as for "8/8 cloud" (NZAAS's only known description for clouds), Auckland probably had about 4 hrs of sunshine yesterday (can confirm tomorrow) and the next few days are looking very sunny.

NZAAS has been slammed repeatedly on both this and the NZ forum for his biased and inaccurate comments, and yet he still persists in doing so.

Here's September's obs taken from Auckland Aero (sunshine from cen. Akld)...

Sat Sep 01 . 11.3C . 16.5C ... 1.8mm ... 4.7 hr .. 16 kt W.. (Mod/Fre)
Sun Sep 02 . 10.8C . 16.5C ... 0.0mm ... 4.8 hr .. 20 kt W.. (Fre)
Mon Sep 03 . 10.9C . 13.9C ... 0.0mm ... 0.1 hr ... 8 kt