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#1456400 - 09/03/2018 17:52 Grafton Radar
janama Offline
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Registered: 30/07/2010
Posts: 7
It's been down all day.

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#1456405 - 09/03/2018 18:29 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
Homer Offline
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Registered: 16/06/2007
Posts: 6040
Loc: Dural
The notes on the site state it will be a 200 hour outage and will be back on line on the 16/03/2018.
Hardly worth starting a thread for.

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#1456496 - 10/03/2018 10:33 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
DerekHV Offline
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Registered: 12/02/2010
Posts: 1208
Loc: Aberglasslyn (Maitland) NSW
I think for coastal plain places north of Port Macquarie is on the Qld forum anyway. (SE Qld/ NE NSW)

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#1456501 - 10/03/2018 11:16 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
Steve777 Offline
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Registered: 20/10/2011
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Loc: Artarmon (Sydney North Shore)
To move on to the subject of weather radars generally, NSW could really do with a couple more radars in the West, giving that much of the rainfall over inland NSW and NSW more generally originates from influences moving in the from the West, especially NW cloud bands but also cold fronts from the SW in Winter. Also much comes from tropical influences moving into the state from the North or North West. There's a lot of blank space on the radar map.

I'd suggest we need radars around Dubbo and Broken Hill (yellow circles on the map) and maybe another at Bourke (white) and / or the Northern Riverina (e.g. Hillston - light blue). I am assuming that we need to put the radars reasonably close to a town rather than in the middle of nowhere.



I think we'd agree on more radars, if not the locations. I suppose it comes down to money.

EDIT: Looking at that map, assuming we also have Broken Hill and Bourke, maybe Orange might be a better location that Dubbo. Or we could have both? Again, money.



Edited by Steve777 (10/03/2018 11:25)

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#1456518 - 10/03/2018 15:28 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
EddyG Offline
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Registered: 19/12/2008
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Loc: Port Stephens NSW
I would like to see a radar in the Port Macquarie area personally.

It is frustrating seeing radars down on occasions though and equally frustrating is the false echoes that occur frequently of late on the Newcastle radar.

But like Steve777 mentions, money!!
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#1456529 - 10/03/2018 17:08 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
Rsav Offline
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Registered: 07/12/2016
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I've thought much the same Steve & Eddy re new radars. The central west definitely needs one and should be first priority should funding become available. Orange seems like a logical spot but the highest point in the area (Mt Canobolas) already sports numerous towers so it might not be the best location. Perhaps Mt Macquarie, further SE near Blayney, might be better, as it's only slightly lower and I think only has one tower on the summit. The mid north coast could probably use one as Newcastle and Grafton are far away. Don't know where it could go, though, and it would be a lower priority than out west.

Re funding, perhaps the state government could chip in, as WA has with their three new dopplers in their wheatbelt?

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#1456535 - 10/03/2018 18:30 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
Homer Offline
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Registered: 16/06/2007
Posts: 6040
Loc: Dural
I've always wondered about the lack of funding provided to the BOM from the federal government.
Surely, the weather is an important player in the economy?
Subsequently, the more information we can form and gain from it and therefore, prepare for national disasters in a more efficient way would pay back the government for it's investment.

I've also sometimes wondered why insurance companies don't contribute. I know it isn't their domain to do so, but every single year they pay out hundreds of millions of dollars (even billions) for claims.
Surely they could help themselves by investing a fraction of this into forecasting and real time observations (such as radars), so the warning systems could be more accurate.

I also wonder why radars have been positioned using previous expenditure in places like Giles, Woomera and Halls Creek, when virtually no one lives in these areas and they aren't in positions where any forthcoming weather is going to affect major population areas.

Certainly, somewhere like some high ground in the central west of NSW near Wellington would be far more beneficial to a larger percentage of the population.

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#1456727 - 12/03/2018 09:22 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
DaveM Offline
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Registered: 21/05/2001
Posts: 10147
Loc: Bathurst NSW about 700 m asl
Yep - but for the many years we've spoken about this - nothing happens sadly.

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#1456798 - 12/03/2018 17:14 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
Rsav Offline
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Registered: 07/12/2016
Posts: 87
What's the total cost of a new doppler radar (manufacturing, transporting, installing, plus a tower to sit it on)?

If that's considered excessive then perhaps some existing radars could be shifted to where there is a greater need. For example, Moree isn't really needed any more thanks to Namoi, so why not move it north into Queensland to fill the gap between Warrego & Brisbane?

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#1457135 - 14/03/2018 11:49 Re: Grafton Radar [Re: janama]
janama Offline
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Registered: 30/07/2010
Posts: 7
It's back up now but it doesn't match Brisbane that covers part of the same area.

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