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#1444338 - 08/12/2017 21:21 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: mkeene(pingtang)]
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Originally Posted By: ozthunder

Just a lousy storm chasing road, but a great breeding ground for some good storms


Originally Posted By: mkeene(pingtang)
Yes I have been to Nerriga Braidwood and Tarago countless times via the Nerriga and I do enjoy it I chase there as often as possible as its often a focal point for convergence and there are a handful of great views 10kms west of Nerriga if you know how to find them.However 95% is all trees so it's not a good chase road as MT mentioned. The problem is there's no direct northerly option from Nerriga and often you get boxed out, as storms often track north on low shear days along boundaries.


I reckon it would be a great way to quickly get to some of the seabreeze convergence setups you can get around the eastern southern tablelands like around Braidwood. By the time you get to Braidwood or Tarago it's very open country and would be good for storm chasing.

If I lived in Nowra I would head up there a lot I think. It only took me 1h 20mins to get from Tarago to Nowra and these days with the new freeway it only takes 50 mins to Nowra from home.



Edited by Wave Rider (08/12/2017 21:24)
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#1444342 - 08/12/2017 21:33 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Terry Hills is still over-reporting, judging by the modest totals delivered by that flurry of cells this afternoon, some of them black cores. Mostly under 10mm, the highest were 12-13 mm around Wyong and Sydney's Northern Beaches.

Just went outside after a couple of hours indoors. It's been raining, the roads are when, just raining lightly now. These would be the coastal showers riding the SE air stream mentioned a few posts ago.

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#1444346 - 08/12/2017 21:39 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Steve777]
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Originally Posted By: Steve777

Just went outside after a couple of hours indoors. It's been raining, the roads are when, just raining lightly now. These would be the coastal showers riding the SE air stream mentioned a few posts ago.


Yeh.

Radar is a bit confused at the moment.

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#1444377 - 09/12/2017 03:11 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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The low totals yes, the hail from 5 separate storms i can confirm. Was a very unusual day, the cells rolled in one after the other when the southerly hit. Pea size hail followed by larger hail then pea size again then large again. Was something i have not experienced on the central coast before, felt more like a tablelands event.

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#1444384 - 09/12/2017 08:19 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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That is interesting, must've been pretty cold uppers to have hail in every storm.

PS: Geez it was cold when I got up, considering it's summer. It was 10 degrees up here with a stiff westerly breeze. Even Albion Park was only 13 and Bellambi 15.


Edited by Wave Rider (09/12/2017 08:28)
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#1444390 - 09/12/2017 09:42 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
That is interesting, must've been pretty cold uppers to have hail in every storm.

PS: Geez it was cold when I got up, considering it's summer. It was 10 degrees up here with a stiff westerly breeze. Even Albion Park was only 13 and Bellambi 15.


Different to waking up to 31/25 here in Darwin this morning poke

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#1444427 - 09/12/2017 13:45 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Wave Rider]
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Can see yesterdays cells pushing though one after the other -
http://www.theweatherchaser.com/radar-loop/IDR713-sydney-terrey-hills


Edited by Stoxxo (09/12/2017 13:47)

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#1444533 - 09/12/2017 22:02 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Stoxxo]
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Interesting post Stoxxo. At one stage it looked like those cells were somehow oozing out of the ground near Putty / Colo Heights and zipping off South East towards the coast. It must have seemed like a barrage on the Central Coast and Northern Beaches.

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Today was in two halves - a cloudy morning after a sunny start, then a sunny afternoon. Mild temperatures here, feeling cool in that rather brisk Easterly. The BOM got the temperatures right: 24 at OH, 29 at Penrith.

I think maxima forecast for the coast in the next few days have been a little overlooked. I'd knock a degree off Sunday to Wednesday maxima. But we shall see.


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#1444566 - 10/12/2017 15:17 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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#1444579 - 11/12/2017 09:28 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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The mildish weather we've enjoyed over November and December looks like ending as warm to hot weather is set to persist until at least Christmas. We may see our first 30C day on Thursday. The immediate coast fringe should be spared the worst heat due to sea breezes. Fortunately reasonable rainfall over the past 6 weeks will reduce the risk of moisture stress. Our dams are still holding well despite year to date rainfall being about 25cm short of average.


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#1444591 - 11/12/2017 14:35 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
Originally Posted By: ozthunder

Just a lousy storm chasing road, but a great breeding ground for some good storms


Originally Posted By: mkeene(pingtang)
Yes I have been to Nerriga Braidwood and Tarago countless times via the Nerriga and I do enjoy it I chase there as often as possible as its often a focal point for convergence and there are a handful of great views 10kms west of Nerriga if you know how to find them.However 95% is all trees so it's not a good chase road as MT mentioned. The problem is there's no direct northerly option from Nerriga and often you get boxed out, as storms often track north on low shear days along boundaries.


I reckon it would be a great way to quickly get to some of the seabreeze convergence setups you can get around the eastern southern tablelands like around Braidwood. By the time you get to Braidwood or Tarago it's very open country and would be good for storm chasing.

If I lived in Nowra I would head up there a lot I think. It only took me 1h 20mins to get from Tarago to Nowra and these days with the new freeway it only takes 50 mins to Nowra from home.



Models are jumping around a bit, but Friday and Saturday could be a Nerriga type setup.
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#1444592 - 11/12/2017 14:48 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Great video Stormy. Thanks for posting.

Interesting to hear the parent reassuring the kid not to be frightened of the hail. "It's OK at long as you don't go outside". Good stuff.

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Thanks for starting the thread Oz. Just a question - what's a 'Nerriga type setup'?

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My interpretation of the models is that there's a bit of heat and instability in the time up to Christmas. The seabreeze will be keeping the heat away from the coast most days, but Penrith looks like getting a run of 10 days of 32+ (90F in the old money). Heat and storms, way to go.

EDIT: I see that Penrith made it to its forecast 34, other outer West about 32. That sea breeze is pretty strong, keeping the coast fairly mild for now. The NW'ers might reach the coast on Thursday.


Edited by Steve777 (11/12/2017 14:54)

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#1444598 - 11/12/2017 16:02 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Steve777]
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Originally Posted By: Steve777

Thanks for starting the thread Oz. Just a question - what's a 'Nerriga type setup'?



Nerriga is one of the places that the sea breeze / NW wind interface seems to be around 2-4pm. Braidwood, Marulan and Taralga are other areas.

Nerriga has a slightly higher set of ranges around it than Marulan (hence the much cursed Hume Hwy storm protection corridor).

If shear is low the storms will often as Mr Keene mentioned earlier slide north or NW along this boundary, mainly in inaccessible countryside.
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#1444599 - 11/12/2017 16:22 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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I can't recall ever having a successful storm chase to Nerriga, and I've been on quite a few. There's literally a handful of limited views along an hour of road and the rest is forest. At least the road isn't dirt covered with fist sized rocks anymore, can recall losing a hubcap on one trip and fishtailing my way home through 30km of ice rink conditions after a storm went through another time.
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#1444604 - 11/12/2017 17:39 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Theres' an excellent view on top of a hill on a dirt road west of Nerriga with excellent views facing Northwest west and southwest. It's near the Shoalhaven river, and gets you an important 10kms closer to the Windellima road option. Importantly this picks up 4G from the Tarago tower.

Chasing Nerriga is extremely tough. Lack of views lack of road options,and so much inaccessible terrain. However I enjoy chasing there, have had a few good ones in my time. The Nerriga to Bungonia storm a few weeks back was flanking hard on its NW side, hence why it bee lined towards Bungonia.


Edited by mkeene(pingtang) (11/12/2017 17:40)

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#1444607 - 11/12/2017 19:02 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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How long does it take to get to Braidwood from Nerriga? I know a lot of that section is gravel road still so google might be a bit misleading with its 55 min prediction. Plenty of open country around Braidwood to chase in. Shame I'm busy Friday and Saturday.

Geez lightning chaser that sounds rough, I'm surprised anyone would drive on that road. There must have been heaps of car casualties!


Edited by Wave Rider (11/12/2017 19:03)
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#1444673 - 12/12/2017 19:28 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider
How long does it take to get to Braidwood from Nerriga? I know a lot of that section is gravel road still so google might be a bit misleading with its 55 min prediction.


Well I tested it today and it's about 40 mins and there is a lot of gravel but it's decent quality and smooth, I was averaging about 90-100km/h.
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#1444712 - 13/12/2017 10:34 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Wave Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Wave Rider

Geez lightning chaser that sounds rough, I'm surprised anyone would drive on that road. There must have been heaps of car casualties!


Back 1997 I had a Nissan Patrol and took my parents for a 4WD along the Yalwah Fire trail which connects to the Nerriga Road.

We were having a nice picnic lunch at Tanjera falls when some fool starts firing a gun from their car.

Back in 1974 I worked in a bank at Nowra and for some reason one of staff had to go out and visit a client in Sassafras. He said he drove past an old house and the people were sitting out on the porch, they all tuned their heads watching the his car go past. He said he was out most of day and 6 hours later, same people still on the porch and again tuned their heads again to watch the car pass. (as you read play duelling banjos in your head)
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#1444996 - Yesterday at 23:48 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Interesting.

New site at Obs Hill.

Has rainfall and min-max temps. Also solar but that is contrived anyway.

Google maps shows it slightly north of the 066062 site which makes it slightly more exposed to the harbour funnel and so deeper into the Summer pole of cold. Apologies for borrowing the Irkutsk/Verkhoyansk/Oymyakon tag.

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