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#1467515 - 17/07/2018 23:17 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Kino]
ozthunder Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kino
Incredibly mild here right now - 18.8c with a decent w blowing!


A very quick look at observations and it seems apart from Port Kembla, Albion Park may be the highest temperature in the state ATM.

Has to drop a degree in next 40 mins or tomorrow's max is broken at 12.01am, or does the 9am reset bugger that one too.
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#1467516 - 17/07/2018 23:17 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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It's hotting up, especially in the Illawarra. At Albion Park, the temperature has increased by over 11° since 8:30PM, from under 8 to nearly 19. That must have been very noticeable to the good burgers of Albion Park who were out and about.

Places that don't get inversions are in the mid to high teens. I check the temperature at Mount Boyce in these conditions. If is located on a local high point and is not subject to inversions. It is showing 9°, equivalent to 16° at sea level.

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#1467517 - 17/07/2018 23:19 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Wow these temps though. Walked outside at 11PM on a clear cloudless winter night and it felt warmer outside than inside. How bizarre. Especially considering it was already -1c at this time 2 nights ago.

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#1467518 - 17/07/2018 23:33 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: ozthunder]
Kino Offline
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Originally Posted By: ozthunder
Originally Posted By: Kino
Incredibly mild here right now - 18.8c with a decent w blowing!


A very quick look at observations and it seems apart from Port Kembla, Albion Park may be the highest temperature in the state ATM.

Has to drop a degree in next 40 mins or tomorrow's max is broken at 12.01am, or does the 9am reset bugger that one too.


Pretty sure 9am reset nabs it. Still bloody warm for mid July, nice after the cold we’ve had.

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#1467524 - Yesterday at 08:24 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Jimi]
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Originally Posted By: Jimi
Good stats Rigger. As for the smallest range - Norfolk or Lord Howe perhaps


Without looking up the stats, I'd say Norfolk.... ( I have worked on both islands but only in the summer months ). Lord Howe has recorded extreme max temps above 30c and extreme lows of 6c. Norfolk is similar with lows approaching 6c and max of 28.4c.

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#1467533 - Yesterday at 11:01 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: ashestoashes]
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Originally Posted By: ashestoashes
Well last year in September Camden moved from 6.5 to 36.5. So a diurnal range of 30 degrees, that is probably the record because it occurs in spring when often the highest diurnal ranges occurred. But maybe someone more in-hand with stats, can probably find a record.


I distinctly recall a day in Singleton in October 2012, that had a diurnal range of 4C to 35C. (some other Hunter spots were not far off this either)
But yep, these extreme diurnal ranges are more a feature of spring than winter.
Singleton also recorded it's hottest July day earlier this month. (15 years of records only though), but strangely the minimums have not been extremely low there recently, certainly compared to Cessnock for instance.

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#1467538 - Yesterday at 13:56 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Steve777]
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Originally Posted By: Steve777
It's hotting up, especially in the Illawarra. At Albion Park, the temperature has increased by over 11° since 8:30PM, from under 8 to nearly 19. That must have been very noticeable to the good burgers of Albion Park who were out and about.

Places that don't get inversions are in the mid to high teens. I check the temperature at Mount Boyce in these conditions. If is located on a local high point and is not subject to inversions. It is showing 9°, equivalent to 16° at sea level.


The dry air adiabatic lapse rate would be closer to 1°c per 100m.

9°c at Mt Boyce (1080m ASL) with a dry westerly mixing down into the basin = 19-20c at Penrith or Richmond (20m ASL).


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#1467539 - Yesterday at 14:01 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Up to 22C locally now, certainly not complaining about such a mild day time temp in the 3rd week of July!

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#1467543 - Yesterday at 15:38 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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22c in the third week of July is pretty normal these days in Sydney-Hunter.

Long gone are the days when July would average 16-17c maximums.

A 'typical' July day in 1988 would rank as 'cold' day in 2018.

The subtropical zone that used to end near Forster or Taree now extends down to Port Hacking.

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#1467545 - Yesterday at 16:15 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Bit of dust about Newcastle this afternoon. Wouldn’t be surprised if more tomorrow or Friday.


Edited by Funkyseefunkydo (Yesterday at 16:17)

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#1467547 - Yesterday at 19:07 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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When I was a kid, 70°F was very uncommon in July. This year it's happened four times already, with another several likely. The next couple of weeks look consistently high teens following a brief cooldown towards average at the end of the month.

This July is on track for the highest average maximum on record at OH and probably most of Sydney, the Illawarra and Hunter. It will also be one of the driest and sunniest. On the other hand, minima are tracking close to average, which means cold by recent standards.

Noticed how quiet the snow thread has been? Outside the Alpine areas, which do well in in Westerly regime, there's been almost nothing.

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#1467548 - Yesterday at 19:20 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Rob_S]
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Originally Posted By: Rob_S
22c in the third week of July is pretty normal these days in Sydney-Hunter.

Long gone are the days when July would average 16-17c maximums.

A 'typical' July day in 1988 would rank as 'cold' day in 2018.

The subtropical zone that used to end near Forster or Taree now extends down to Port Hacking.

Ah yes, no wonder I'm getting so many double-figure (>10° C) highs and such scanty snowfall in bloody midwinter up my way whistle crazy Back then, it struggled to reach 10° C round here...now it's commonplace!

Always thought it had something to do with that bloomin' subtropical ridge extending farther south smirk
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#1467554 - Yesterday at 22:42 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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I hate severe frosts the -5 one's, they just killed over $1000 worth of orchids on me, I am guttered,there was ever solar hot water systems exploding here in Ellalong and people had no water till 10am pipes were all frozen.I was a lucky one I had water.it hurt me with my orchids.



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#1467558 - Today at 07:04 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Yeah it’s very worrying how quickly the climate has changed. One thing I remember clearly was just how dense the pocket of temperate rainforest used to be in the valley near my house in the mid Blue Mountains when I first went there during the ‘80s. It seemed like that ridiculously hot dry summer of ‘97-‘98 was the start of really stressing such fragile environments to the point of changing them drastically. The millennial drought didn’t help but then even after many quite wet years from around 2010, it remains a patch on what it used to be. I believe a big part is the fact that winter is just so short now, evaporation rates so much higher year round.

Yep, July max used to be:
Sydney 16-17C
Katoomba 9-10C
Now we tend to only see such temps during the actual passing of a cold front.

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#1467559 - Today at 07:26 Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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Registered: 22/06/2018
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Surprised this morning at seeing frost on the ground and my car! Min was forecasted to be 3, but dipped down to 1.3 at Homebush.

A note on Sydney temperatures in July. In my experience June is the coldest month of the year due to cloud cover and July is normally a degree warmer than June since I’ve been interested in the weather.

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#1467566 - 50 minutes 8 seconds ago Re: NSW/ACT day to day weather [Re: Grant]
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The notion that Sydney Harbour had a snowfall and that places like Mudgee, Temora, Young etc used to get regular snowfalls back in the 19th Century is—at the very least—harrowing.

The only event that comes close nowadays is the 2015 snowfall at Wyangala Dam, near Cowra (surface elevation 378 m AMSL; 34° S); https://youtu.be/m69At2w3nT8

The hills surrounding Wyangala Dam climb upwards ~500 m AMSL, however.
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